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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: JamesV6CDX on 16 September 2009, 22:21:19
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Walked the dogs tonight at a local park.
Lots of Little teenage darlings, sat in the play area, drinking their lager - basically someone had been setting fire to everything >:( including wooden equipment. Personally not sure how they stood the smoke!
I called it in - needless to say, there were some blue lights pretty quick - unfortunately a bit too late though, the damage had already been done. :-[
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Walked the dogs tonight at a local park.
Lots of Little teenage darlings, sat in the play area, drinking their lager - basically someone had been setting fire to everything >:( including wooden equipment. Personally not sure how they stood the smoke!
I called it in - needless to say, there were some blue lights pretty quick - unfortunately a bit too late though, the damage had already been done. :-[
Parents at home watching EastEnders no doubt. ::) ::)
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I would ask why damage stuff that is for local kids to use, but I won't :-X :-X
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Then the little loves complain that there is nothing provided to keep them lawfully entertained !!!! No .... because they have destroyed it !!!!! >:(
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not too bad when i think what i used to get up to at that age, me BMX didnt always keep me quiet.
Our swings etc where made of telegraph polls old tyres and chains. Hard to smash that up.
Dont tell me it was much differant when you all where that age. You may have been better or worse behaved but the situation was the same, desperate to get out of the hourse, too young for the pub, and no parents would have other kids round, and nor would you want to anyway.
Might have left them alone. Not wrecking personal property then.
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Parents at home watching EastEnders no doubt. ::) ::)
No EE on a Wed ::) Parents probably used Orange Wednesday and left kids behind..?
None the less, that was a sign of disrespect to communal grounds :(
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not too bad when i think what i used to get up to at that age
Dont tell me it was much differant when you all where that age. .
Actually, yes it was.
We would push the boundaries, have some beers, and be rowdy - but never commit bloody arson, ffs!
Might have left them alone.
We'll have to agree to disagree on this one, mate.
That kind of behaviour needs stamping out.
I'm not a killjoy, and will turn a blind eye to many things within reason - but there are boundaries...
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Parents at home watching EastEnders no doubt. ::) ::)
No EE on a Wed ::) Parents probably used Orange Wednesday and left kids behind..?
None the less, that was a sign of disrespect to communal grounds :(
Why didn't I know that? ;) ;D
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not too bad when i think what i used to get up to at that age
Dont tell me it was much differant when you all where that age. .
Actually, yes it was.
We would push the boundaries, have some beers, and be rowdy - but never commit bloody arson, ffs!
Might have left them alone.
We'll have to agree to disagree on this one, mate.
That kind of behaviour needs stamping out.
I'm not a killjoy, and will turn a blind eye to many things within reason - but there are boundaries...
Agree wholeheartedly with James. :y
Arson, theft, malicious damage, I don't care what it is, it is not acceptable and the fact that oldies may have done it before when they were young does not make it anymore acceptable in my book. It's criminal and it's wrong.
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Parents at home watching EastEnders no doubt. ::) ::)
No EE on a Wed ::) Parents probably used Orange Wednesday and left kids behind..?
None the less, that was a sign of disrespect to communal grounds :(
Why didn't I know that? ;) ;D
i only heard that, might be wrong ::) 8-) ;)
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I maintain my view - but, having re-read it, apologies it's a little tongue in cheek :y
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And they wonder why there's nothing for them !! >:(
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bring back the days when the coppers was allowed to give you thick ear with the their gloves and your mam and dad know about it before you got home and you got a leather belt of ya dad as it never did me no harm there was more respect back then for public and public property
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bring back the days when the coppers was allowed to give you thick ear with the their gloves and your mam and dad know about it before you got home and you got a leather belt of ya dad as it never did me no harm there was more respect back then for public and public property
Sounds like we are the same generation :D :D I agree, lets bring it back, before it is too late :(
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not too bad when i think what i used to get up to at that age
Dont tell me it was much differant when you all where that age. .
Actually, yes it was.
We would push the boundaries, have some beers, and be rowdy - but never commit bloody arson, ffs!
Might have left them alone.
We'll have to agree to disagree on this one, mate.
That kind of behaviour needs stamping out.
I'm not a killjoy, and will turn a blind eye to many things within reason - but there are boundaries...
Agree wholeheartedly with James. :y
Arson, theft, malicious damage, I don't care what it is, it is not acceptable and the fact that oldies may have done it before when they were young does not make it anymore acceptable in my book. It's criminal and it's wrong.
Was not really refering to what did or didnt happen. More of the "possibly" hypocritical attitude to the situation(which i didnt witness) by people(who i dont know personally or their history as kids) on here that take a such a dim view of a situation that they "possibly" may have been in themselves to a varying degree.
Alot of assumptions in my statement that may well be unfair. My apologies. But a little understanding of the opposite view goes a long way, esp if you have been there yourself, we where all young once is my point.
I was not at all implying that they should get away with it. Despite my tongue in cheek comment at the end. :-)
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I did much worse things than James described when I was a teenager,I am not remotely proud of it,the exact opposite in fact.If I had been harshly punished at the time I would probably have felt hard done by but that isnt really the point.Looking back on it now I think if caught I should have been dealt with severely and would have deserved it if I had been.
So I dont think its a case of being hypocritical really, its more a case of having an adult perspective on it and realising that for the good of society these things need to be dealt with appropriately to try to stop another generation growing up more disrespectful and lawlesss than the previous one.
I think that a lot of these kids wil outgrow this type of behaviour if like me they eventually stop rebelling and start to remember the values they were taught at home,but its the ones who arent taught any values who we really have to worry about imo.
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RESPECT is the problem or lack of it
when i was young If someone told my parents i had set fire to something i would have been rag dolled all over the house
when i was 7 i dialed 999 with a pal from a call box to see how long it took the fire brigade to get there stupid i know but as i said i was 7 at the time
I think my mother removed all the skin from my backside that night and taught me a valuable lesson.
Sadly fear and respect seems to be something thats missing these days .
bring back the belt at school while there at it
Doug
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the enigma that is a teenager. We'll never understand. Never undertood when i was one. :-)
Seriously, think back,homework, exams, bulleys, revision, fights, motor bikes, push bikes, broken limbs (put those last 3 together for some reason.) spots, puberty, girls(dito) mates, fights, bunking off,in trouble at school, being lead astray by mates, fights, getting a job, not wanting a job, being threatened with the army,(....no? Just me then) interviews, wanting to leave home, leaving home, wanting to move back home,losing job, starving, another job, etc etc oh, and being a teenager. Divorced parents maybe, bell end for a step Dad. The list goes on.
Plus todays issues, druggs knifes, asbos, rrrespect whatever..... Wouldnt be that age again for love nor money.
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The Police should have gone around to each and everyone's house, got their Playstations and set fire to them. >:(
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Walked the dogs tonight at a local park.
Lots of Little teenage darlings, sat in the play area, drinking their lager - basically someone had been setting fire to everything >:( including wooden equipment. Personally not sure how they stood the smoke!
I called it in - needless to say, there were some blue lights pretty quick - unfortunately a bit too late though, the damage had already been done. :-[
Was it me that tuned up
(http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r373/dalyoftelford/13092009131-1.jpg)
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God, Chris, I must have led a sheltered childhood ( along with my peers of the time). The worst we got up to was popping a banger (firework) into cow pats and watch the resulting mess fly !!!!
As Vamps says, if we got cheeky the local bobby would give us a cuff round the ear and our parents would give us more when we got home.
And, for me at least, the worst thing when I got into trouble (which I did, now and then --- but nothing criminal) wasn't the cuff or the belt -- it was knowing I had let my parents down that upset me and made me think twice afterward.
I think the key word here is respect, for others and for themselves. I am afraid this commodity is sadly lacking these days.
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Walked the dogs tonight at a local park.
Lots of Little teenage darlings, sat in the play area, drinking their lager - basically someone had been setting fire to everything >:( including wooden equipment. Personally not sure how they stood the smoke!
I called it in - needless to say, there were some blue lights pretty quick - unfortunately a bit too late though, the damage had already been done. :-[
Was it me that tuned up
(http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r373/dalyoftelford/13092009131-1.jpg)
You really need to address your police obsession ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Im trying ........
Am I to old to Join the force !! lol
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God, Chris, I must have led a sheltered childhood ( along with my peers of the time). The worst we got up to was popping a banger (firework) into cow pats and watch the resulting mess fly !!!!
As Vamps says, if we got cheeky the local bobby would give us a cuff round the ear and our parents would give us more when we got home.
And, for me at least, the worst thing when I got into trouble (which I did, now and then --- but nothing criminal) wasn't the cuff or the belt -- it was knowing I had let my parents down that upset me and made me think twice afterward.
I think the key word here is respect, for others and for themselves. I am afraid this commodity is sadly lacking these days.
Your quite right. Lost respect for my parents when they split up, esp living with a schemeing bell end for a step father, both where teachers beleive it or not.
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i have to laugh when people say the coppers should be able to give them a thick ear. 1, i would never consent to any one laying a finger on one of my children and 2 have you seen the size of some of theses kids lol i think the copper would come alot worse off
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i have to laugh when people say the coppers should be able to give them a thick ear. 1, i would never consent to any one laying a finger on one of my children and 2 have you seen the size of some of theses kids lol i think the copper would come alot worse off
In this day and age you are probably correct -- times change -- and not always for the better !!!! Not only were the kids different in my day, so were the coppers.
As I said before, there was more respect for each other in those days ( I am beginning to sound like my dad!!).
BTW -- no-one has suggested that coppers should be able to give them a thick ear. What thay have done is pointed out that a cuff (NOT thick ear) worked in days gone by -- you can laugh all you like -- you probably weren't there.
This PC, namby pamby, cover 'em in cotton wool crappity smack 'dangle berries' is what has got this country on the ever faster downward spin into the toilet. It has produced the goverment and business leaders we have today -- and unless pulled up will produce even worse in generations to come.
Sorry -- BP went up a little there >:( >:( >:( >:(
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No you are correct i wasnt there as you put it im 23 years old with a son of eight months old and i work very hard to support my family so were not all bad. I think it is easy to judge the younger generation because you dont understand it. Things change and so do opinions it is just human nature.. I also think this is a good thing as children born out of wed lock in the good old days were seen a bastards theses day just a fact of life to name only one way times have changed. Everything that goes onto day went on all them years ago it just wasnt common knowledge as now we have a much better communication network so rather than just hearing what has happened in the local area you hear the news from all over the country on a minute by minute update. I totally agree that some of the behaviour going on is not exceptable and should be dealt with in a different way but i think you will find there are prison not just young offenders institues. And your generation has breed some nasty and none to savory people aswell but we all have one head two arms and two legs. We are not all that different so im sorry if i got your blood pressure going but at the end of the day im entitled to my opinion just as much as you are.
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No you are correct i wasnt there as you put it im 23 years old with a son of eight months old and i work very hard to support my family so were not all bad. I think it is easy to judge the younger generation because you dont understand it. Things change and so do opinions it is just human nature.. I also think this is a good thing as children born out of wed lock in the good old days were seen a bastards theses day just a fact of life to name only one way times have changed. Everything that goes onto day went on all them years ago it just wasnt common knowledge as now we have a much better communication network so rather than just hearing what has happened in the local area you hear the news from all over the country on a minute by minute update. I totally agree that some of the behaviour going on is not exceptable and should be dealt with in a different way but i think you will find there are prison not just young offenders institues. And your generation has breed some nasty and none to savory people aswell but we all have one head two arms and two legs. We are not all that different so im sorry if i got your blood pressure going but at the end of the day im entitled to my opinion just as much as you are.
No Rikki -- it wasn't you that got the old BP rising -- it was the current situation we find our selves in. So no need for apologies.
I agree it's not just the youngsters that are part of the problem (just look at those in power right now!), but all the government interference in how we live ( led by the PC brigade) -- they have killed human common sense !!!
As for my lack of understanding of the younger generation .... I remember I was young once ( albeit in different times --- and they were different). However, I kept reasonably well up to date with a daughter of 30, one of 24 and one of 18 as well as the two year old.
Yes, the same things go on today as did "all those years ago" .... and have done for centuries before that --- in fact pre 14th century it was a lot worse! In my day we had mods and rockers causing mayhem. But, overall, looking through my rose tinted spectacles, I still feel that we had a better quality of life -- less pressured and more "time to smell the roses".
Finally ...... yes, you are entitled to your opinion -- and thank goodness we can still --- just --- voice our differing opinions -- until the PC lot stop that too. It's also refereshing to note, Rikki, that we can differ, yet not spit the dummies too far from the pram. I respect your right to have a different opinion and hope we all continue to enjoy the freedom to express it.
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We actually got married before living together (been away together before though)
Had no money at all
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No you are correct i wasnt there as you put it im 23 years old with a son of eight months old and i work very hard to support my family so were not all bad. I think it is easy to judge the younger generation because you dont understand it. Things change and so do opinions it is just human nature.. I also think this is a good thing as children born out of wed lock in the good old days were seen a bastards theses day just a fact of life to name only one way times have changed. Everything that goes onto day went on all them years ago it just wasnt common knowledge as now we have a much better communication network so rather than just hearing what has happened in the local area you hear the news from all over the country on a minute by minute update. I totally agree that some of the behaviour going on is not exceptable and should be dealt with in a different way but i think you will find there are prison not just young offenders institues. And your generation has breed some nasty and none to savory people aswell but we all have one head two arms and two legs. We are not all that different so im sorry if i got your blood pressure going but at the end of the day im entitled to my opinion just as much as you are.
No Rikki -- it wasn't you that got the old BP rising -- it was the current situation we find our selves in. So no need for apologies.
I agree it's not just the youngsters that are part of the problem (just look at those in power right now!), but all the government interference in how we live ( led by the PC brigade) -- they have killed human common sense !!!
As for my lack of understanding of the younger generation .... I remember I was young once ( albeit in different times --- and they were different). However, I kept reasonably well up to date with a daughter of 30, one of 24 and one of 18 as well as the two year old.
Yes, the same things go on today as did "all those years ago" .... and have done for centuries before that --- in fact pre 14th century it was a lot worse! In my day we had mods and rockers causing mayhem. But, overall, looking through my rose tinted spectacles, I still feel that we had a better quality of life -- less pressured and more "time to smell the roses".
Finally ...... yes, you are entitled to your opinion -- and thank goodness we can still --- just --- voice our differing opinions -- until the PC lot stop that too. It's also refereshing to note, Rikki, that we can differ, yet not spit the dummies too far from the pram. I respect your right to have a different opinion and hope we all continue to enjoy the freedom to express it.
While I agree with everything you say, I joined the Navy at 15 years old, we must remember one thing. :y
The yoof of today, that we are complaining about are still the minority element, unfortunately we rarely hear positive stories about our young people, this is not newsworthy, negative tales just help to increase the poor image and raise suspicion of all youngsters among the population... :(
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While I agree with everything you say, I joined the Navy at 15 years old, we must remember one thing. :y
The yoof of today, that we are complaining about are still the minority element, unfortunately we rarely hear positive stories about our young people, this is not newsworthy, negative tales just help to increase the poor image and raise suspicion of all youngsters among the population... :(
Very true -- I would imagine the tales of the good youngsters do would far outnumber the bad --- but as you say --- the bad tales are more newsworthy for some reason!