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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: n.a.c_123 on 11 September 2009, 22:50:46
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:y Sick of paying a garage £350 to do a cam well this is wat i did Using a crobar and a rubber mallet push the old belt back. using the crobar push the new belt on cut the old belt off and simpley push the new belt into place P.S Please do with CARE !!! :y
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:y Sick of paying a garage £350 to do a cam well this is wat i did Using a crobar and a rubber mallet push the old belt back. using the crobar push the new belt on cut the old belt off and simpley push the new belt into place P.S Please do with CARE !!! :y
Oh - I say :-/ :-/
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:o :o :o :o :-? :-? :-?
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I dont think it will last long. ::)
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:y Sick of paying a garage £350 to do a cam well this is wat i did Using a crobar and a rubber mallet push the old belt back. using the crobar push the new belt on cut the old belt off and simpley push the new belt into place P.S Please do with CARE !!! :y
If you did, then you are lucky.
To anyone else, please DO NOT try this. To many brush and shovel repairs noted by this method.
Thanks for the input though!! :y
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nah i cant see that working myself especially not on the V6s!!!!
also the tensioners on all vauxhall belt driven vehicles is a weak spot and must be changed you have made no mention of your changing of the tensioner therefore the belt will snap very soon causing you a serious bill costing thousands to put right all this for the sake of £350!
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:y Sick of paying a garage £350 to do a cam well this is wat i did Using a crobar and a rubber mallet push the old belt back. using the crobar push the new belt on cut the old belt off and simpley push the new belt into place P.S Please do with CARE !!! :y
Interestig theory, not something I would any anyone to do on my quad cam V6. :-/
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The other prob with this is that it does not allow for stretch in the belt or, indeed, if the original belt was timed correctly in the first place.
Use a timing kit. Its worth the peace of mind....... ;D
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:y Sick of paying a garage £350 to do a cam well this is wat i did Using a crobar and a rubber mallet push the old belt back. using the crobar push the new belt on cut the old belt off and simpley push the new belt into place P.S Please do with CARE !!! :y
You don't mention what engine, 4 pot or 6 but cam belt failure is due to the the failure of the tensioners as much as it is the belt itself. Your method just replaces the belt and not the all important tensioners! ;) ;) ;) Also with a V6, can you be sure that it was correctly timed the last time it was done if you ued a garage. It's been mentioned a few times where garages seem to think they can correctly time a V6 with a proper cam lock kit. :y
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The other prob with this is that it does not allow for stretch in the belt or, indeed, if the original belt was timed correctly in the first place.
Use a timing kit. Its worth the peace of mind....... ;D
... and buy the vieo /DVD fom the OOF shop. :y :y :y :y :y
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:y Sick of paying a garage £350 to do a cam well this is wat i did Using a crobar and a rubber mallet push the old belt back. using the crobar push the new belt on cut the old belt off and simpley push the new belt into place P.S Please do with CARE !!! :y
You don't mention what engine, 4 pot or 6 but cam belt failure is due to the the failure of the tensioners as much as it is the belt itself. Your method just replaces the belt and not the all important tensioners! ;) ;) ;) Also with a V6, can you be sure that it was correctly timed the last time it was done if you ued a garage. It's been mentioned a few times where garages seem to think they can correctly time a V6 with a proper cam lock kit. :y
You mean with a bottle of tippex and without a cam timing kit ??
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Well, chap/chapette seems to have woken everyone up! ;D :y
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:y Sick of paying a garage £350 to do a cam well this is wat i did Using a crobar and a rubber mallet push the old belt back. using the crobar push the new belt on cut the old belt off and simpley push the new belt into place P.S Please do with CARE !!! :y
You don't mention what engine, 4 pot or 6 but cam belt failure is due to the the failure of the tensioners as much as it is the belt itself. Your method just replaces the belt and not the all important tensioners! ;) ;) ;) Also with a V6, can you be sure that it was correctly timed the last time it was done if you ued a garage. It's been mentioned a few times where garages seem to think they can correctly time a V6 with a proper cam lock kit. :y
You mean with a bottle of tippex and without a cam timing kit ??
Not even a accurate as a bottle of Tipex. ;) More rack o' th'eye :y :y
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Did we order a troll for Friday night? ;D
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:-[ lol Not a good way to do things i know but it has worked so far on my cars i have allways had vauxhall for 6 years and had no problen but please make sure you know what you are doing :y
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Is this perchance a bit of a windup? :o
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which engine do you have in your omega ?
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OK, do that, maybe on an old pinto.
Definatley NOT a quad cam V6. :o
Good job not replacing the most well documented failure items.
Smart cookie! :y
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There is too much of a lip on the tensioner / idlers for it to work -
Aside of the fact it means the idlers wouldn't have been changed...
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Is this perchance a bit of a windup? :o
I would think so.... ;D
That said, seen it done where a belt was sliced in half with a sharp stanley blade with the engine running then the replacement belt slipped into place the the original half old belt cut off before the new belt is slipped fully home.
I sincerely hope no one on here would even think of trying the same with any car they would hope to keep in fair condition for any length of time without getting anunwarranted engine rebuild! ;D
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My MV6 had its timing belt replaced by a garage in Exeter Garage in 2004 at 77k they changed the belt only
The next recipt in the cars history portfolio is a Tow truck recipt off a garage in london for recovery off the M25 and tow back to Newton Abbot
The Recipt after that is for £4,400 for a Crate 3.0V6 Ecotec engine & fitment off Inchape vauxhall of exeter the mileage at this point is 85k Inchapes diagnosis was previous garage never replaced tensioner leading to tensioner failure the exeter garage had to foot the whole bill ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Which Omega do you have. A 4 or 6 pot.?
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Is this perchance a bit of a windup? :o
I would think so.... ;D
That said, seen it done where a belt was sliced in half with a sharp stanley blade with the engine running then the replacement belt slipped into place the the original half old belt cut off before the new belt is slipped fully home.
I sincerely hope no one on here would even think of trying the same with any car they would hope to keep in fair condition for any length of time without getting anunwarranted engine rebuild! ;D
I have heard of this one, indeed I was going to post it ::) must think faster.... :D :D
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Which Omega do you have. A 4 or 6 pot.?
Irrelevent Skruntie, I wouldn't think of trying this so called method on any engine :o
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Just pm,d me to say it is a 2.5 v6,learnt how to use PM,s rather quickly. ;)
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Which Omega do you have. A 4 or 6 pot.?
Irrelevent Skruntie, I wouldn't think of trying this so called method on any engine :o
My next posts were going to be be, where abouts in the country are you.
and, remind me not to buy a car off you. :-/
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What method do you use for an oil change,,, :-/
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Anyone remember that picture from the guy who used cable ties instead of cam locks..? ::)
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What method do you use for an oil change,,, :-/
I take out the dip stick and put a long plastic pipe over the dipstick hole pipe thingy, and suck. Horrible if you get a mouthful though :D :D :D
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Tensioner goes rather than the belt.
Kit is under £100, borrow a locking kit - there you go
Mine is timed pretty well - better than the local mechanic near work would do using the markers on the backing plate
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What method do you use for an oil change,,, :-/
I take out the dip stick and put a long plastic pipe over the dipstick hole pipe thingy, and suck. Horrible if you get a mouthful though :D :D :D
Kirkby Central in Rotherham offered a mechanical oil change equivilant to that years aog, and at twice the price. FFS, how could they do a proper oil change through a dip stick tube. :-/
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The person probably lives in Brakley :D :-X
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FFS, how could they do a proper oil change through a dip stick tube. :-/
Before anyone flames me - I must mention that I continue to change engine oil by removing the sump plug.
However - just to encourage healthy debate...
I recently bought an oil transfer pump, designed for clean and environmentally friendly oil changes.
My main intention was for the easy removal of oil from spark plug wells, and waterways when doing head gaskets, etc - to save time and reduce mess.
I did however decide to have a go with the engine on my car.
Stuck the required pipe down the dipstick tube, began the pumping process - and, fair enough, it did it's job.
Just as a test, I then removed the sump plug, and didn't get anything extra out aside of a few drips.
So while I agree with the sentiment - it's better and quicker to remove the sump plug - I think for certain applications, the oil transfer pumps have a place :y
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Some of the older members who used to frequent the other side will remember someone using clothes pegs as a locking kit. Just jammed them between the cogs.
He mentioned his dad was a mechanic and had been using this method for years. Even supplied the pics to prove. ::) :D
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FFS, how could they do a proper oil change through a dip stick tube. :-/
Before anyone flames me - I must mention that I continue to change engine oil by removing the sump plug.
However - just to encourage healthy debate...
I recently bought an oil transfer pump, designed for clean and environmentally friendly oil changes.
My main intention was for the easy removal of oil from spark plug wells, and waterways when doing head gaskets, etc - to save time and reduce mess.
I did however decide to have a go with the engine on my car.
Stuck the required pipe down the dipstick tube, began the pumping process - and, fair enough, it did it's job.
Just as a test, I then removed the sump plug, and didn't get anything extra out aside of a few drips.
So while I agree with the sentiment - it's better and quicker to remove the sump plug - I think for certain applications, the oil transfer pumps have a place :y
And happily left the crudd in the bottom of the sump which the action of the oil flowing througg the drain plug would have shifted.
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also its the tensioners that fail, not the belt
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One thing springs to mind. Cowboy mechanic,
Whats the bets theres a new thred in the near future.
"engine went Bang" or "timing belt problems" or "tensioner nackered"
or a for sale as spares or repair :-/
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:-[ lol Not a good way to do things i know but it has worked so far on my cars i have allways had vauxhall for 6 years and had no problen but please make sure you know what you are doing :y
You obviously dont mate
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FFS, how could they do a proper oil change through a dip stick tube. :-/
Before anyone flames me - I must mention that I continue to change engine oil by removing the sump plug.
However - just to encourage healthy debate...
I recently bought an oil transfer pump, designed for clean and environmentally friendly oil changes.
My main intention was for the easy removal of oil from spark plug wells, and waterways when doing head gaskets, etc - to save time and reduce mess.
I did however decide to have a go with the engine on my car.
Stuck the required pipe down the dipstick tube, began the pumping process - and, fair enough, it did it's job.
Just as a test, I then removed the sump plug, and didn't get anything extra out aside of a few drips.
So while I agree with the sentiment - it's better and quicker to remove the sump plug - I think for certain applications, the oil transfer pumps have a place :y
And happily left the crudd in the bottom of the sump which the action of the oil flowing througg the drain plug would have shifted.
Yep agree with that....
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Done one on a cavalier years ago with tip-ex, worked perfect, haven't done one since though, too lazy, use friends garage now if needed :)
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What method do you use for an oil change,,, :-/
I take out the dip stick and put a long plastic pipe over the dipstick hole pipe thingy, and suck. Horrible if you get a mouthful though :D :D :D
Kirkby Central in Rotherham offered a mechanical oil change equivilant to that years aog, and at twice the price. FFS, how could they do a proper oil change through a dip stick tube. :-/
::) ::) ::) I was only teasing, following a comment 'is this a wind up?' and a posters new question. The clue was in the 'dipstick hole pipe thingy... :D :D
I had no idea, at the time of posting, that there was such a method... :P :P :P
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What method do you use for an oil change,,, :-/
I take out the dip stick and put a long plastic pipe over the dipstick hole pipe thingy, and suck. Horrible if you get a mouthful though :D :D :D
Kirkby Central in Rotherham offered a mechanical oil change equivilant to that years aog, and at twice the price. FFS, how could they do a proper oil change through a dip stick tube. :-/
::) ::) ::) I was only teasing, following a comment 'is this a wind up?' and a posters new question. The clue was in the 'dipstick hole pipe thingy... :D :D
I had no idea, at the time of posting, that there was such a method... :P :P :P
You do now then Mike! ;) ;) ;)
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:y Sick of paying a garage £350 to do a cam well this is wat i did Using a crobar and a rubber mallet push the old belt back. using the crobar push the new belt on cut the old belt off and simpley push the new belt into place P.S Please do with CARE !!! :y
You are joking arent you ? No, i guess your not ! Shit, glad ur (I'm just lazy, can't be bothered to type 'you are') not my mechanic.
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A simple post along the lines of "that's not really an advisable method" would have done. We're dealing with a new member here.
Don't worry matey, they happily take as good as they give. Welcome to the mad house :y
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A simple post along the lines of "that's not really an advisable method" would have done. We're dealing with a new member here.
Don't worry matey, they happily take as good as they give. Welcome to the mad house :y
Or are we. Could it be some one taking the wee wee. Maybe vamps or loo-knee as i seem to remember one of them pulling a stunt before.
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A simple post along the lines of "that's not really an advisable method" would have done. We're dealing with a new member here.
Don't worry matey, they happily take as good as they give. Welcome to the mad house :y
Or are we. Could it be some one taking the wee wee. Maybe vamps or loo-knee as i seem to remember one of them pulling a stunt before.
Can you back up that statement, I am deeply offended by the very thought :P :P :P
I do recall somethng but it was not me, must have been LK, plus you must remember he is often a newbie :D :D :D
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A simple post along the lines of "that's not really an advisable method" would have done. We're dealing with a new member here.
Don't worry matey, they happily take as good as they give. Welcome to the mad house :y
Or are we. Could it be some one taking the wee wee. Maybe vamps or loo-knee as i seem to remember one of them pulling a stunt before.
I made a post here, it has not come up but is shown in the list that you see when typing here....... :-?
Scruntie 'cooking the Book's' so to speak.. :P :P :P
Edit... Oh, there it is....... ::) ::) ::)
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A simple post along the lines of "that's not really an advisable method" would have done. We're dealing with a new member here.
Don't worry matey, they happily take as good as they give. Welcome to the mad house :y
Or are we. Could it be some one taking the wee wee. Maybe vamps or loo-knee as i seem to remember one of them pulling a stunt before.
I made a post here, it has not come up but is shown in the list that you see when typing here....... :-?
Scruntie 'cooking the Book's' so to speak.. :P :P :P
Edit... Oh, there it is....... ::) ::) ::)
You have some need to speak. ::) All the stirring you do keeps losing Daz his post count. ::) ::) :-X
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LOL sorry did i upset sum omega owners I WAS JOKING take the car to a PROFFESIONAL i just wanted to cheaeck that this a real web site not like the silly ones out there
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D
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hade you ALL GOING LOL SORRY ILL BE GOOD ::)
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take the car to a PROFFESIONAL
FFS! Your def having a laugh now! ;D
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Is this perchance a bit of a windup? :o
Looks like maybe it was but it was definitely bad timing.... ;)
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Is this perchance a bit of a windup? :o
Looks like maybe it was but it was definitely bad timing.... ;)
I like it :y ;D ;D ;D ;D
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is it true that there is a place in a mans head that if you shoot it, it will BLOW UP!!! lolol :y
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is it true that there is a place in a mans head that if you shoot it, it will BLOW UP!!! lolol :y
What?
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is it true that there is a place in a mans head that if you shoot it, it will BLOW UP!!! lolol :y
What?
Hes "aiming" at pressing buttons. Or, taking the pish. !
10/10 from me ;D :D ;)
nearly bit myself ;D :-[
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How very, very strange :-X :-X
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::) Obviosly not seen HOT FUZZ with Simon pegg and the big one 8-)