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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Nickbat on 24 September 2009, 23:57:59
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This is fascinating. Could the signing away our powers to the EU really be treason?
Read and ponder!
http://thatsnews.blogspot.com/2009/09/is-lisbon-treaty-treason.html
:o :o
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For you there, not being able to vote on it is not only treason IMO but complete fascism.
I reckon its going to be another no vote here again. I dont know anyone voting yes.
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For you there, not being able to vote on it is not only treason IMO but complete fascism.
I reckon its going to be another no vote here again. I dont know anyone voting yes.
Another negative vote would be a real surprise B :-/
I think Cowan has been well and truly stitched-up by Brussels this time around :-/ :-/
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For you there, not being able to vote on it is not only treason IMO but complete fascism.
I reckon its going to be another no vote here again. I dont know anyone voting yes.
Another negative vote would be a real surprise B :-/
I think Cowan has been well and truly stitched-up by Brussels this time around :-/ :-/
The attitude changed after the same situation with the Nice treaty. Although the EU are walking all over the governments. Will they ever stand up and not be pushed around >:(
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For you there, not being able to vote on it is not only treason IMO but complete fascism.
I reckon its going to be another no vote here again. I dont know anyone voting yes.
Another negative vote would be a real surprise B :-/
I think Cowan has been well and truly stitched-up by Brussels this time around :-/ :-/
The attitude changed after the same situation with the Nice treaty. Although the EU are walking all over the governments. Will they ever stand up and not be pushed around >:(
I don't think the Brian Boy has it in him to tell you the truth :-/
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After a fair trail, then it should be off with their heads!! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)
I have just been catching up on The Tudors, and anyone going against the wishes of the King would be immediately deemed as a traitor. Now we have only a constitutional monarch, and the power (should) rest with the people of the realm. The Lisbon Treaty is not in accordance with the wishes of the majority of the British people, and therefore such acts carried out by our representatives are unlawful, as they have exceeded their remit. Therefore all signatories of the Lisbon Treaty have committed treason against the people of Great Britain and Queen Elizabeth the Second and should be brought to trail.
Who of our politicians can rise to the challenge and carryout the prosecution required against those who have acted against the people and the Crown? That, as far as I can see, is the obstacle.
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i'm with Tony Benn on this one - we cannot stand idly by and let a body who we cannot remove from power deciding our laws - it goes against every principle of freedom
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i'm with Tony Benn on this one - we cannot stand idly by and let a body who we cannot remove from power deciding our laws - it goes against every principle of freedom
I disagree with many of Tony Benn's general political views, but I have to say that he has my highest regard as a parliamentarian. I only wish that he would speak out more against our loss of freedom.
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i'm with Tony Benn on this one - we cannot stand idly by and let a body who we cannot remove from power deciding our laws - it goes against every principle of freedom
I disagree with many of Tony Benn's general political views, but I have to say that he has my highest regard as a parliamentarian. I only wish that he would speak out more against our loss of freedom.
Funny really that an outspoken elder politician which a lot of us disagree with, we regard so highly.
Personally well done to him on Concorde pushing.
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Of course its bl**dy Treason! The soddin' Germans tried twice by force of arms to conquer Europe, only being stopped each time by the Americans throwing their two pennworth in (when it suited them) and tipping the balance in the Allies favour . This time around they're doing it by the back door, fooling the stupid bl**dy French into thinking they are the leading player in a 'Federal Europe'. Ted Heath should have been hung drawn and quartered, and so should every other 5th Columnist who has led us by the nose since then. Free trade with the rest of Europe? YES, a unified defence strategy? MAYBE; Britain being run by Europe (the Germans) as an offshore Federal Territory? NEVER! >:(
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YES.
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Of course its bl**dy Treason! The soddin' Germans tried twice by force of arms to conquer Europe, only being stopped each time by the Americans throwing their two pennworth in (when it suited them) and tipping the balance in the Allies favour . This time around they're doing it by the back door, fooling the stupid bl**dy French into thinking they are the leading player in a 'Federal Europe'. Ted Heath should have been hung drawn and quartered, and so should every other 5th Columnist who has led us by the nose since then. Free trade with the rest of Europe? YES, a unified defence strategy? MAYBE; Britain being run by Europe (the Germans) as an offshore Federal Territory? NEVER! >:(
i think you'll find it was the then Soviet Union who turned the tide - accounting for 90% of all Nazis killed in WW2, and sacrificing millions in the effort :(
then again, the yanks made some great war movies..... ::) so who do you believe? ;)
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You mean Russia? :-/
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You mean Russia? :-/
No Albs, BJ is correct as it was the Soviet Union or USSR. ;) ;)
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Of course its bl**dy Treason! The soddin' Germans tried twice by force of arms to conquer Europe, only being stopped each time by the Americans throwing their two pennworth in (when it suited them) and tipping the balance in the Allies favour . This time around they're doing it by the back door, fooling the stupid bl**dy French into thinking they are the leading player in a 'Federal Europe'. Ted Heath should have been hung drawn and quartered, and so should every other 5th Columnist who has led us by the nose since then. Free trade with the rest of Europe? YES, a unified defence strategy? MAYBE; Britain being run by Europe (the Germans) as an offshore Federal Territory? NEVER! >:(
i think you'll find it was the then Soviet Union who turned the tide - accounting for 90% of all Nazis killed in WW2, and sacrificing millions in the effort :(
then again, the yanks made some great war movies..... ::) so who do you believe? ;)
That is an interesting percentage you have raised there BJ. Can you tell me where this information is from as I have yet to come across it.
As a matter of interest BJ, total German military dead or missing for the war run to about 4.2 million, with another 493,000 estimated civilians killed in Germany, many of them due to the Allied (British & American) bomber offensive.
The USSR lost 27 million lives mainly during the duration of BARBAROSSA from 22nd June 1941 and the Soviet armies drive into Berlin, that incidently cost more Red Army lives than the total American losses for the whole war!!!! :'( :'( :'(
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You mean Russia? :-/
Yup,I was completely wrong. ::) :-[
All these night shifts are playing havoc with my brain....................cell.Thats my excuse and I,m sticking to it. :P ::) ;D ;D
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You mean Russia? :-/
Yup,I was completely wrong. ::) :-[
All these night shifts are playing havoc with my brain....................cell.Thats my excuse and I,m sticking to it. :P ::) ;D ;D
It is a common mistake for people to make Albs :y :y
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i think you'll find it was the then Soviet Union who turned the tide - accounting for 90% of all Nazis killed in WW2, and sacrificing millions in the effort
then again, the yanks made some great war movies..... so who do you believe?
By late 1941 the British were practically a spent force militarily,with little in the way of armaments & equipment, as much of it had been abandoned in France. American 'lease lend' had provided some small relief at the cost of almost bankrupting Britain. With only the Royal Navy holding it's own (barely) and the RAF desperately short of aircraft and trained pilots, Pearl Harbour was the turning point for the eventual outcome of WW11 because the full weight of US industrial might was thrown into gear, and now produced more equipment and ships than was being destroyed/sunk. The Soviets had initially 'done the dirty' on us with their non aggression pact with Hitler which left the way clear for the invasion of Poland, only for themselves to be 'stabbed in the back' when Germany launched 'Operation Barbarossa' in June 1941. Stalin was caught 'on the hop' & the soviets suffered severe defeats & loss of a great deal of territory, leaving them in dire straits until early 1942 when, after eight months of continuous supply by ship convoys of British & American food, armaments & technical support, they were in a position to regroup and begin to throw the Germans back. The Eastern Front was the largest & bloodiest of any battlefield in WW11 and consumed vast numbers of human lives, but without the help of Britain and the US especially, and the opening of the '2nd Front' in Normandy, the Soviets would have had a hard time keeping the Nazis at bay, much less beating them!
Sorry for the rant, I'm no lover of the Yanks in general, but the endless rows of their dead from two world wars bears testament to the fact that they do rather more than 'make good movies'.
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try reading The great deception by andrew booker.
extracts from his book
http://warmwell.com/03nov12bookerondecep.html