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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Banjax on 29 September 2009, 23:51:13
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http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Politics/Sun-Newspaper-Tabloid-Ends-Support-For-Labour-Party-And-Backs-Conservatives-For-Next-Election/Article/200909415395407?lpos=Politics_First_UK_News_Article_Teaser_Region_1&lid=ARTICLE_15395407_Sun_Newspaper%3A_Tabloid_Ends_Support_For_Labour_Party_And_Backs_Conservatives_For_Next_Election
"Tories secure the "slack-jawed yokel vote"
So you'll be voting Tory then? ;) ;D
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....is the title of your thread not rather judgemental and inflamatory bj :-/ :-/
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....is the title of your thread not rather judgemental and inflamatory bj :-/ :-/
zulu zulu zulu - lighten up m8 ;D
i'm only having a laugh - most people who buy the Sun cant read anyway :y
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"Tories secure the "slack-jawed yokel vote"
So you'll be voting Tory then? ;) ;D
;D ;D ;D
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i knew he ment Sun readers when i read the title.;D
Nout in it worth "reading" and as they cant read either, will be unaware of the papers position. Pointless all round really. :-)
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http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Politics/Sun-Newspaper-Tabloid-Ends-Support-For-Labour-Party-And-Backs-Conservatives-For-Next-Election/Article/200909415395407?lpos=Politics_First_UK_News_Article_Teaser_Region_1&lid=ARTICLE_15395407_Sun_Newspaper%3A_Tabloid_Ends_Support_For_Labour_Party_And_Backs_Conservatives_For_Next_Election
"Tories secure the "slack-jawed yokel vote"
So you'll be voting Tory then? ;) ;D
I thought the "slack jawed yokels" read the daily mail. ;D ;D ;D
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"Tories secure the "slack-jawed yokel vote"
So you'll be voting Tory then? ;) ;D
I thought the "slack jawed yokels" read the daily mail.
the mail is read by the delusional, gullible and paranoid and harks back to some idealised vision of britain which never existed
the express is similar, but slightly less nasty
the mirror is read by well meaning idiots
the star isnt a newspaper
the guardian - carrot munching tree huggers
the telegraph - retired colonels, tory peers, old money
the times is for people who like to read a good paper but don't know why
the independant - no one
i think that covers all the bases - any questions? ;D
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SUN READER JOKE.......
Two armed robbers burst into a bank.......... with a pair of shotguns..... :o :o :o :o
Give me all your money ......or I will blow your f###ing head off ......shouts the first robber.... :o :o :o
Are you sun readers by any chance ?.enquires a brave bank worker ;) ;)
Yes we are....... replied the second robber ......how did you guess?.
Because you have sawn the wrong end off your shotgun. ;D ;D..the bank worker replied ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Wont find any arguments from me supprting the Sun,although I wouldnt be so condescending about its readers as some of you.
The Gaurdian however is a paper which in my view should never again be read by any right thinking British national.
It had a invitation only breakfast at the Grand Hotel in Brighton this week and one of the invited guests was a certain Martin Mcguiness,the man who was chief of staff of the IRA at the time tey blew up that same hotel and tried to murder the whole of the British cabinet in one go.
This breakfast was very close to the 25th anniversary of the event in which 5 people were murdered and 34 very seriously injured/maimed.Sick is what I call it. >:( >:( >:(
Incidentally Mcguiness was sporting a Labour guest pass during his stay as he was invited by party members. The war on terror ? dont even get me rather started. >:( >:( >:( >:(
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I thought the "slack jawed yokels" read the daily mail.
the mail is read by the delusional, gullible and paranoid and harks back to some idealised vision of britain which never existed
the express is similar, but slightly less nasty
the mirror is read by well meaning idiots
the star isnt a newspaper
the guardian - carrot munching tree huggers
the telegraph - retired colonels, tory peers, old money
the times is for people who like to read a good paper but don't know why
the independant - no one
i think that covers all the bases - any questions? ;D[/quote]
...can you direct me to a reliable news source then bj?
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Simple zulu - the BBC or GMTV. ::) :D ;D ;D ;D
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Wont find any arguments from me supprting the Sun,although I wouldnt be so condescending about its readers as some of you.
The Gaurdian however is a paper which in my view should never again be read by any right thinking British national.
It had a invitation only breakfast at the Grand Hotel in Brighton this week and one of the invited guests was a certain Martin Mcguiness,the man who was chief of staff of the IRA at the time tey blew up that same hotel and tried to murder the whole of the British cabinet in one go.
This breakfast was very close to the 25th anniversary of the event in which 5 people were murdered and 34 very seriously injured/maimed,sick is what I call it. >:( >:( >:(
Incidentally Mcguiness was sporting a Labour guest pass during his stay as he was invited by party members. The war on terror ? dont even get me rather started. >:( >:( >:( >:(
...it's part of the so-called 'price of peace' championed by the 'hit and run' Premier (Blair).
This is where today's headline is considered more important than the future effects of such grandiose thinking.
The hand of history - what?
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Simple zulu - the BBC or GMTV. ::) :D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D such august sources :y :y
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Although we mock the Sun,it is the biggest selling paper in the country (sadly) ,it has since the days of Thatcher had the power to swing elections and has often done so.Before the 97 election Brown flew to Australia to speak to Rupert Murdoch personally in order to obtain the backing of the Sun before the election.So if Brown wasnt already finished he is now.
Personally I think its very undemocratic that Murdoch should be able to have this level of power/influence/thought control in this country and the U.S. not to mention Australia. >:(
Here is a song about him. ;)
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KQCqBDCbIA[/media]
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I thought the "slack jawed yokels" read the daily mail.
the mail is read by the delusional, gullible and paranoid and harks back to some idealised vision of britain which never existed
the express is similar, but slightly less nasty
the mirror is read by well meaning idiots
the star isnt a newspaper
the guardian - carrot munching tree huggers
the telegraph - retired colonels, tory peers, old money
the times is for people who like to read a good paper but don't know why
the independant - no one
i think that covers all the bases - any questions? ;D
...can you direct me to a reliable news source then bj?[/quote]
[rustling newspaper in disgust]
Hurumph Hurumph, I'll have you know I read a cross section of newpapers to get a good and balanced picture of the propaganda views coming out in print these days. Even the more common ones that poor people read like Viz. However that Guardian drivel is only good for the grass-munching, yoghurt-knitting tree-huggers. Utter pithle and tripe it is!
[/rustling newspaper in disgust]
::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D
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I thought the "slack jawed yokels" read the daily mail.
the mail is read by the delusional, gullible and paranoid and harks back to some idealised vision of britain which never existed
the express is similar, but slightly less nasty
the mirror is read by well meaning idiots
the star isnt a newspaper
the guardian - carrot munching tree huggers
the telegraph - retired colonels, tory peers, old money
the times is for people who like to read a good paper but don't know why
the independant - no one
i think that covers all the bases - any questions? ;D
...can you direct me to a reliable news source then bj?[/quote]
me ;D
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I thought the "slack jawed yokels" read the daily mail.
the mail is read by the delusional, gullible and paranoid and harks back to some idealised vision of britain which never existed
the express is similar, but slightly less nasty
the mirror is read by well meaning idiots
the star isnt a newspaper
the guardian - carrot munching tree huggers
the telegraph - retired colonels, tory peers, old money
the times is for people who like to read a good paper but don't know why
the independant - no one
i think that covers all the bases - any questions? ;D
...can you direct me to an unreliable news source then bj?
me ;D
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I wonder who played with that? ::) ::) ::) ::)
;) ;D
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...can you direct me to a reliable news source then bj?
me ;D
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I'll say this bj ,you're good for a laugh :y - but getting back to a reliable alternative news-source ::) ::)
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[rustling newspaper in disgust]
Hurumph Hurumph, I'll have you know I read a cross section of newpapers to get a good and balanced picture of the propaganda views coming out in print these days. Even the more common ones that poor people read like Viz. However that Guardian drivel is only good for the grass-munching, yoghurt-knitting tree-huggers. Utter pithle and tripe it is!
[/rustling newspaper in disgust]
::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D splendid G :y
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[rustling newspaper in disgust]
Hurumph Hurumph, I'll have you know I read a cross section of newpapers to get a good and balanced picture of the propaganda views coming out in print these days. Even the more common ones that poor people read like Viz. However that Guardian drivel is only good for the grass-munching, yoghurt-knitting tree-huggers. Utter pithle and tripe it is!
[/rustling newspaper in disgust]
::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D
Your so wrong Guffer,if there was no Gaurdian where would the Government and all those Labour councils advertise all those hundreds of thousands of absolutely vital public sector jobs. ;)
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"Tories secure the "slack-jawed yokel vote"
So you'll be voting Tory then? ;) ;D
I thought the "slack jawed yokels" read the daily mail.
the mail is read by the delusional, gullible and paranoid and harks back to some idealised vision of britain which never existed
the express is similar, but slightly less nasty
the mirror is read by well meaning idiots
the star isnt a newspaper
the guardian - carrot munching tree huggers
the telegraph - retired colonels, tory peers, old money
the times is for people who like to read a good paper but don't know why
the independant - no one
i think that covers all the bases - any questions? ;D
What about the top quality Daily sport?
:y
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Nothing like a bit of non discriminatory stereotyping eh
This thread smacks of a " if you dont read what i like then theres something wrong with you"
Not a good impression from a forum and i`ll bet a fair few silent folk that have read this will find the original post both patronising and condescending :(
Got to say its the first thread that i have looked at since coming online to OOF today and it wouldnt be one that would encourage me to read more or join if i was new.
In fact it would probably lead to me stereotyping everyone on here if i didnt know there was some fantastic members.
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Nothing like a bit of non discriminatory stereotyping eh
This thread smacks of a " if you dont read what i like then theres something wrong with you"
Not a good impression from a forum and i`ll bet a fair few silent folk that have read this will find the original post both patronising and condescending :(
Got to say its the first thread that i have looked at since coming online to OOF today and it wouldnt be one that would encourage me to read more or join if i was new.
In fact it would probably lead to me stereotyping everyone on here if i didnt know there was some fantastic members.
Which is why I posted this as my first contribution to this thread;
bannjaxx wrote on Yesterday at 23:51:
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Politics/Sun-Newspaper-Tabloid-Ends-Support-For...
....is the title of your thread not rather judgemental and inflamatory bj
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This had to arise i guess. Jeremy Drone (Vine) jumped on it for his show today (saw that coming a mile off, dull tinker).
At the end of the day they all promise the world to get the vote then balls it up when they get voted in. There is no real difference between the tabloid & broadsheet press other than the broadsheets drag any issue out into pages instead of a paragraph.
Press should'nt influence voters & this topic does'nt merit discussion...only in my opinion of course! :D
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This had to arise i guess. Jeremy Drone (Vine) jumped on it for his show today (saw that coming a mile off, dull tinker).
At the end of the day they all promise the world to get the vote then balls it up when they get voted in. There is no real difference between the tabloid & broadsheet press other than the broadsheets drag any issue out into pages instead of a paragraph.
Press should'nt influence voters & this topic does'nt merit discussion...only in my opinion of course! :D
There is a very big difference between them Amigo! :o :o :o
The tabloids go for simple single sentence paragraphs with limited referencing and fact, with often sensationalistic tones to excite their readership.
The broadsheets use multi-sentence paragraphs containing much referencing and fact in a statement like style to educate and inform their readership. ;) ;) ;) ;)
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http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Politics/Sun-Newspaper-Tabloid-Ends-Support-For-Labour-Party-And-Backs-Conservatives-For-Next-Election/Article/200909415395407?lpos=Politics_First_UK_News_Article_Teaser_Region_1&lid=ARTICLE_15395407_Sun_Newspaper%3A_Tabloid_Ends_Support_For_Labour_Party_And_Backs_Conservatives_For_Next_Election
"Tories secure the "slack-jawed yokel vote"
So you'll be voting Tory then? ;) ;D
I thought the "slack jawed yokels" read the daily mail.
the mail is read by the delusional, gullible and paranoid and harks back to some idealised vision of britain which never existed
the express is similar, but slightly less nasty
the mirror is read by well meaning idiots
the star isnt a newspaper
the guardian - carrot munching tree huggers
the telegraph - retired colonels, tory peers, old money
the times is for people who like to read a good paper but don't know why
the independant - no one
i think that covers all the bases - any questions? ;D
I don't read any papers at all, so what catergory do i fall :-?
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This had to arise i guess. Jeremy Drone (Vine) jumped on it for his show today (saw that coming a mile off, dull tinker).
At the end of the day they all promise the world to get the vote then balls it up when they get voted in. There is no real difference between the tabloid & broadsheet press other than the broadsheets drag any issue out into pages instead of a paragraph.
Press should'nt influence voters & this topic does'nt merit discussion...only in my opinion of course! :D
There is a very big difference between them Amigo! :o :o :o
The tabloids go for simple single sentence paragraphs with limited referencing and fact, with often sensationalistic tones to excite their readership.
The broadsheets use multi-sentence paragraphs containing much referencing and fact in a statement like style to educate and inform their readership. ;) ;) ;) ;)
Enough to discourage even the most determined Sun reader ....Lizzie. ;)
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"Tories secure the "slack-jawed yokel vote"
So you'll be voting Tory then? ;) ;D
I thought the "slack jawed yokels" read the daily mail.
the mail is read by the delusional, gullible and paranoid and harks back to some idealised vision of britain which never existed
the express is similar, but slightly less nasty
the mirror is read by well meaning idiots
the star isnt a newspaper
the guardian - carrot munching tree huggers
the telegraph - retired colonels, tory peers, old money
the times is for people who like to read a good paper but don't know why
the independant - no one
i think that covers all the bases - any questions? ;D
I don't read any papers at all, so what catergory do i fall :-?
free-thinker? :)
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...can you direct me to a reliable news source then bj?
me ;D
I'll say this bj ,you're good for a laugh :y - but getting back to a reliable alternative news-source ::) ::)[/quote]
OK - i'll give you reliable in reverse order
FOX News
The Daily Star
The Mail and The Express
The Sun
CNN
SKY News
ITN
The Guardian, Times and Telegraph
The Independent
The BBC
The Daily Show with Jon Stewart
Private Eye
Channel 4 News
start with Channel 4 and work you're way back, Zulu - you'll not go far wrong (although i wouldn't go too far past SKY News) :y
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...can you direct me to a reliable news source then bj?
me ;D
I'll say this bj ,you're good for a laugh :y - but getting back to a reliable alternative news-source ::) ::)
OK - i'll give you reliable in reverse order
FOX News
The Daily Star
The Mail and The Express
The Sun
CNN
SKY News
ITN
The Guardian, Times and Telegraph
The Independent
The BBC
The Daily Show with Jon Stewart
Private Eye
Channel 4 News
start with Channel 4 and work you're way back, Zulu - you'll not go far wrong (although i wouldn't go too far past SKY News) :y[/quote]
This might surprise you bj but I watch Snow and Co., on a regular basis, I subscribe to P.E. and take the Telegraph and the Gruniad - excuse me - Guardian and finally, have a number of Stewart's shows still to watch on my pvr series stacker.
I may be Establishment but that's old school Establishment where socialism was not considered with the distain than the present socialist classes levy on most things that doesn't gel with their thinking ;)
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...can you direct me to a reliable news source then bj?
me ;D
I'll say this bj ,you're good for a laugh :y - but getting back to a reliable alternative news-source ::) ::)
OK - i'll give you reliable in reverse order
FOX News
The Daily Star
The Mail and The Express
The Sun
CNN
SKY News
ITN
The Guardian, Times and Telegraph
The Independent
The BBC
The Daily Show with Jon Stewart
Private Eye
Channel 4 News
start with Channel 4 and work you're way back, Zulu - you'll not go far wrong (although i wouldn't go too far past SKY News) :y
This might surprise you bj but I watch Snow and Co., on a regular basis, I subscribe to P.E. and take the Telegraph and the Gruniad - excuse me - Guardian and finally, have a number of Stewart's shows still to watch on my pvr series stacker.
I may be Establishment but that's old school Establishment where socialism was not considered with the distain than the present socialist classes levy on most things that doesn't gel with their thinking ;)
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i knew you were a man of taste zulu :y
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My own view is that NO element of the mainstream media is trustworthy these days. That includes all the broadsheets and the BBC.
Obviously, not all you read or hear is untrue. However my experience is that, in the mainstream, journalism is a dead art. :(
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My own view is that NO element of the mainstream media is trustworthy these days. That includes all the broadsheets and the BBC.
Obviously, not all you read or hear is untrue. However my experience is that, in the mainstream, journalism is a dead art. :(
I think that's not too far away Nick. :y
The hacks of old have evolved into chummy participants of the 'spun news cycle', quality investigation is passé :(
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..and the ironic thing about BJ's list is that, while the Guardian & BBC actively censor anti-AGW comments, Glenn Beck on Fox News is practically the ONLY mainstream outlet which airs the climate realist viewpoint. ;)
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..and the ironic thing about BJ's list is that, while the Guardian & BBC actively censor anti-AGW comments, Glenn Beck on Fox News is practically the ONLY mainstream outlet which airs the climate realist viewpoint. ;)
I watched FNC for a long time - only for Greta van Susteren mind you - but I have to say Nick that the views of O'Reilly, Hannity and now Beck are strident to say the least.
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..and the ironic thing about BJ's list is that, while the Guardian & BBC actively censor anti-AGW comments, Glenn Beck on Fox News is practically the ONLY mainstream outlet which airs the climate realist viewpoint. ;)
I watched FNC for a long time - only for Greta van Susteren mind you - but I have to say Nick that the views of O'Reilly, Hannity and now Beck are strident to say the least.
Of those names, I am familiar only with Beck. In his case, i can happily overlook stridency if that is the price to pay for getting the right message (on AGW) across. More power to him! :y
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..and the ironic thing about BJ's list is that, while the Guardian & BBC actively censor anti-AGW comments, Glenn Beck on Fox News is practically the ONLY mainstream outlet which airs the climate realist viewpoint. ;)
I watched FNC for a long time - only for Greta van Susteren mind you - but I have to say Nick that the views of O'Reilly, Hannity and now Beck are strident to say the least.
Of those names, I am familiar only with Beck. In his case, i can happily overlook stridency if that is the price to pay for getting the right message (on AGW) across. More power to him! :y
....am 75% with you on that, irrespective of the messenger, the message on this needs more widespread exposure :y
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Am I the only thread reader who thinks you are on about AutoGasWorldwide? ;D
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Am I the only thread reader who thinks you are on about AutoGasWorldwide? ;D
;D ;D yep, there's a lot of gas in this group :y :y
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Am I the only thread reader who thinks you are on about AutoGasWorldwide? ;D
;D ;D ;D
Martin, I know you know, but for any others reading this thread, AGW is the acronym for Anthropogenic Global Warming, i.e. man-made. :y
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I would post 'terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired' but as I am not reading it, I won't.... :D :D :D
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I would post 'terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired' but as I am not reading it, I won't.... :D :D :D
You can post that on my latest global warming thread if you like. Save others the trouble. ;) ;D ;D
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..and the ironic thing about BJ's list is that, while the Guardian & BBC actively censor anti-AGW comments, Glenn Beck on Fox News is practically the ONLY mainstream outlet which airs the climate realist viewpoint. ;)
i only put Fox on the list because they're so "fair" and "balanced" Nick :y
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Nothing like a bit of non discriminatory stereotyping eh
This thread smacks of a " if you dont read what i like then theres something wrong with you"
correct :y
Not a good impression from a forum and i`ll bet a fair few silent folk that have read this will find the original post both patronising and condescending :(
i think i'd find that patronising and annoying that you'd presume to know what others think or care about
Got to say its the first thread that i have looked at since coming online to OOF today and it wouldnt be one that would encourage me to read more or join if i was new.
frightened of a little adult debate? you don't read the sun by any chance? ;D
In fact it would probably lead to me stereotyping everyone on here if i didnt know there was some fantastic members.
that sounds like you're problem m8 :-?
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My own view is that NO element of the mainstream media is trustworthy these days. That includes all the broadsheets and the BBC.
Obviously, not all you read or hear is untrue. However my experience is that, in the mainstream, journalism is a dead art. :(
sadly true, with a few notable exceptions (the telegraph going through mp's expenses exhaustively springs to mind)