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Title: Home CCTV
Post by: Turk on 05 October 2009, 00:30:51
What think ye on this ?

 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HOME-PC-CCTV-SYSTEM-NIGHT-VISION-CAMERAS-DVR-CARD-DIY_W0QQitemZ230382784849QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CCTV?hash=item35a3e25151&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Title: Re: Home CCTV
Post by: zippo on 05 October 2009, 03:47:55
nice demo for day light use ,what about when its dark .
Title: Re: Home CCTV
Post by: bertiecbx550 on 05 October 2009, 04:54:10
speak to nickv6 turk if you want cctv he knows quite a bit and what kit to use.... :y
Title: Re: Home CCTV
Post by: Welung666 on 05 October 2009, 05:35:18
And I do  :-?
Title: Re: Home CCTV
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 05 October 2009, 08:05:44
I am confused,  Add says 2 channel, pic shows a 4 channel card.

No pics of the camera's, are they going to be the pinhole 9v hide in a match box.?

Is the software genuine and needs to be registered.



Do your home work carefully.
Title: Re: Home CCTV
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 05 October 2009, 08:10:45
4 Channel DVR cards

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html?_trkparms=65%253A12%257C66%253A4%257C39%253A1%257C72%253A2471&_nkw=4+channel+dvr+pci&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_sop=2&_sc=1

Night Vison Camera's

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html?_trkparms=65%253A12%257C66%253A4%257C39%253A1%257C72%253A2471&_nkw=night+vision+cctv+camera&_dmpt=UK_CCTV&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_sop=2&_sc=1

Software and kits no camera.


http://shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html?_trkparms=65%253A12%257C66%253A4%257C39%253A1%257C72%253A2471&_nkw=DVR+software&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_sop=2&_sc=1
Title: Re: Home CCTV
Post by: Plomien on 05 October 2009, 08:16:53
keep an eye out in maplin they do random offers on security kit.
my camera was £60 when it was supposed to be £120 :y
Title: Re: Home CCTV
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 05 October 2009, 09:44:28
I also use that software (which comes with the same dvr card).. it uses H264 codec and compression is great.. with 500 gb disk I can keep more than 2 months of 24 hr data on 4 cameras..

however the quality of these cameras for night vsion dramatically changes from model to model.. and some models have zooming ability..

so if you want a good system it depends on the budget.. also add the price of 24*7 working pc system (at least must have a 2 thread cpu) with a big disk, silent fan and at least a 2.5 KW UPS..

I also must note that depending on the position sometimes wide angle cameras are better but the objects become smaller with them..So you need some trial on the position and methods..(I'm trying at least for 4 years and changed the models many times)
Title: Re: Home CCTV
Post by: KillerWatt on 05 October 2009, 19:18:36
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keep an eye out in maplin they do random offers on security kit.
my camera was £60 when it was supposed to be £120 :y
No offence, but Maplin sell (and I quote our local Maplin manager) "cheap, chinese shit" (and he's right, it is).



Title: Re: Home CCTV
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 05 October 2009, 19:37:46
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keep an eye out in maplin they do random offers on security kit.
my camera was £60 when it was supposed to be £120 :y
No offence, but Maplin sell (and I quote our local Maplin manager) "cheap, chinese shit" (and he's right, it is).




no offense but if those cheap chinese shits dont exist those systems would be sold for at least 5x times now..  ;D
Title: Re: Home CCTV
Post by: TheBoy on 05 October 2009, 19:38:47
You really need branded, quality cameras if you want the end result to be useful.  Obviously, the quality of the recording device is also key.


Unless you pay very big money, PC based ones are, err, amateur.
Title: Re: Home CCTV
Post by: KillerWatt on 05 October 2009, 19:39:36
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no offense but if those cheap chinese shits dont exist those systems would be sold for at least 5x times now..  ;D
The cheap chinese shit in Maplin is already sold for at least 3 times what it's really worth.
Title: Re: Home CCTV
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 05 October 2009, 19:40:42
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You really need branded, quality cameras if you want the end result to be useful.  Obviously, the quality of the recording device is also key.


Unless you pay very big money, PC based ones are, err, amateur.

maybe but enough for home purposes..
Title: Re: Home CCTV
Post by: tmx on 05 October 2009, 19:42:05
yes KW is right Maplin sell all that chinese crap you can buy off ebay for 25% of the price from china or hong kong lol

a 50+mW laser pen will bugger up most of the kits and lots of crims know this!
Title: Re: Home CCTV
Post by: TheBoy on 05 October 2009, 19:42:26
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You really need branded, quality cameras if you want the end result to be useful.  Obviously, the quality of the recording device is also key.


Unless you pay very big money, PC based ones are, err, amateur.

maybe but enough for home purposes..
Depends if you need to show to authorities - certainly around here, it needs to be decent stuff
Title: Re: Home CCTV
Post by: KillerWatt on 05 October 2009, 19:44:58
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You really need branded, quality cameras if you want the end result to be useful.  Obviously, the quality of the recording device is also key.


Unless you pay very big money, PC based ones are, err, amateur.

maybe but enough for home purposes..
Not if the video evidence needs to be used in a court of law.

As TB says, the decent PC based ones are upwards of £500 for the same amount of kit. The main difference between the two though is that the proper kit actually works, and (more importantly) gives you an image that is actually usable.
Title: Re: Home CCTV
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 05 October 2009, 19:45:37
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You really need branded, quality cameras if you want the end result to be useful.  Obviously, the quality of the recording device is also key.


Unless you pay very big money, PC based ones are, err, amateur.

maybe but enough for home purposes..
Depends if you need to show to authorities - certainly around here, it needs to be decent stuff

before I send some moments of two night rats which painted someones car..faces were visible..
Title: Re: Home CCTV
Post by: TheBoy on 05 October 2009, 19:50:14
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You really need branded, quality cameras if you want the end result to be useful.  Obviously, the quality of the recording device is also key.


Unless you pay very big money, PC based ones are, err, amateur.

maybe but enough for home purposes..
Not if the video evidence needs to be used in a court of law.

As TB says, the decent PC based ones are upwards of £500 for the same amount of kit. The main difference between the two though is that the proper kit actually works, and (more importantly) gives you an image that is actually usable.
I was referring to the £10k+ ones ;D
Title: Re: Home CCTV
Post by: tmx on 05 October 2009, 19:54:28
My works CCTV can zoom upto 20x and still not pixalate its been used to sucessfully convict many people and cost well over £50k

18 Cameras with 4x ANPR Cameras added onto it

yes i be working at a petrol station lol trading manager may i add though still i know its a crap job lol :-[
Title: Re: Home CCTV
Post by: VXL V6 on 05 October 2009, 19:58:58
Also need a specific procedure for the video evidence to be admissable in court.

Restricted access to equipment with auditable tracking of access.
Write only media, both copies sealed and signed for by authorised staff.
Signage in areas to advise that equipment is in use
Ability to facilitate FOI requests.
Equipment / Images must meet minimum standards.

....and so on and so on etc etc


Title: Re: Home CCTV
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 05 October 2009, 20:06:18
here cctv records are accepted as proof and if faces are visible thats enough..

even if faces are not clear police use it as starting point and show some people who can identify  and catch them..One succesful example was in Istanbul a murderer was caught like that..He was seen from behind but they managed to catch him..
Title: Re: Home CCTV
Post by: Turk on 05 October 2009, 20:17:47
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Also need a specific procedure for the video evidence to be admissable in court.

Restricted access to equipment with auditable tracking of access.
Write only media, both copies sealed and signed for by authorised staff.
Signage in areas to advise that equipment is in use
Ability to facilitate FOI requests.
Equipment / Images must meet minimum standards.

....and so on and so on etc etc


:-? Court ?   
I just want to know who to demonstrate my displeasure to if my car gets damaged again.  ::)
Title: Re: Home CCTV
Post by: tmx on 05 October 2009, 20:24:00
tbf a Handycam with a NVG CCD on it is far better than most CCTV kits
Title: Re: Home CCTV
Post by: Martin_1962 on 05 October 2009, 20:57:50
Look for cheap tape cameras with knackered mechanisms.

Sell on any MIniDV which work again after a smack ;D