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Title: Apprenticeship
Post by: Elite Pete on 07 October 2009, 20:35:34
I enquired today about an apprenticeship, now I know i'm knocking on a bit but I thought the only way out of this unemployment was for some training. Have a guess how much an hour they are paying?
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Post by: Elite Pete on 07 October 2009, 20:36:48
Opps, do they do apprenticeships on how to post on the correct forum ::)
Title: Re: Apprenticeship
Post by: waspy on 07 October 2009, 20:39:22
£5.75 an hour
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Post by: Elite Pete on 07 October 2009, 20:41:48
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£5.75 an hour
Not even close :P
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Post by: Entwood on 07 October 2009, 20:42:55
Not a lot .. but the only "apprentices" I have ever worked with knew nothing, did nothing, and were worth nothing until they actualy realised they were there to learn and not for a holiday.

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Title: Re: Apprenticeship
Post by: oceansoul on 07 October 2009, 20:45:38
Im an apprentice. In my 4th (final) year. Im currently on about 17k. Work for Thames Water. Electrical/Instrumentation, Control Automation.
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Post by: waspy on 07 October 2009, 20:48:21
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£5.75 an hour
Not even close :P

More or less?
Title: Re: Apprenticeship
Post by: Elite Pete on 07 October 2009, 20:48:31
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Im an apprentice. In my 4th (final) year. Im currently on about 17k. Work for Thames Water. Electrical/Instrumentation, Control Automation.
I've got 20 odd years head start on you and a mortgage ;D
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Post by: Elite Pete on 07 October 2009, 20:55:18
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£5.75 an hour
Not even close :P

More or less?
Less ::)
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Post by: tunnie on 07 October 2009, 21:03:09
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£5.75 an hour
Not even close :P

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Less ::)

Errr minimum wage for 21+ is £5.80
Title: Re: Apprenticeship
Post by: PhilRich on 07 October 2009, 21:03:35
£3.25? ::)
Title: Re: Apprenticeship
Post by: Elite Pete on 07 October 2009, 21:07:35
£2.37 per hour or £95 per week for the first year then on to minimum wage :o
Title: Re: Apprenticeship
Post by: Entwood on 07 October 2009, 21:11:22
I believe apprentices for the first year fall outside the minimum "wage" as they are not considered to be "workers" but "trainees". Once they have done a year they can do some "work" and so are now due the minimum wage...

http://www.apprenticeships.org.uk/Be-An-Apprentice/Other-Questions/FAQDetails11.aspx
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Post by: Gaffers on 07 October 2009, 21:24:36
wtf!  :o :o :o :o :o :o

No wonder fewer people want to get a trade nowadays  :(
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Post by: PhilRich on 07 October 2009, 21:32:26
That is bloody disgraceful! It is nothing short of exploitation :(
When I first started my apprenticeship in 1969 I was paid the princely sum of 10 pence an hour (£4.00 a week). It was 'on the job training' & you weren't told twice! You picked up the job very quickly in those days, and the blokes were damn good teachers too! :y
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Post by: STMO999 on 07 October 2009, 21:34:16
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£2.37 per hour or £95 per week for the first year then on to minimum wage :o

Far too much for you if we're honest ;D
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Post by: Gaffers on 07 October 2009, 21:35:37
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That is bloody disgraceful! It is nothing short of exploitation :(
When I first started my apprenticeship in 1969 I was paid the princely sum of 10 pence an hour (£4.00 a week). It was 'on the job training' & you weren't told twice! You picked up the job very quickly in those days, and the blokes were damn good teachers too! :y

Aye when I joined the Army you were taught by the Signals twins..... Hurts and Megahurts :y
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Post by: Entwood on 07 October 2009, 21:40:38
If you go back ... historically Apprentices were not paid at all.. in fact their families paid for them to be "apprenticed" and to learn a trade ....

A feature that realised that having an apprentice to get under your feet to teach actually slowed work down and reduced profitability....

BTW ... apprentices also had to live with the craftsman who taught them .. :)
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Post by: PhilRich on 07 October 2009, 21:47:54
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That is bloody disgraceful! It is nothing short of exploitation :(
When I first started my apprenticeship in 1969 I was paid the princely sum of 10 pence an hour (£4.00 a week). It was 'on the job training' & you weren't told twice! You picked up the job very quickly in those days, and the blokes were damn good teachers too! :y

Aye when I joined the Army you were taught by the Signals twins..... Hurts and Megahurts :y


I  had the same two in the Navy mate, only they were called  Ninetails & his cat! ;D
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Post by: Mr Skrunts on 07 October 2009, 21:51:01
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£2.37 per hour or £95 per week for the first year then on to minimum wage :o

My Nephew just did 5 years apprenceship straight from school as a welder/pipefitter, they paid him minimum wage from day 1.  The second he was fully qualified they let him go.  He got top marks all the way through colledge and reckon he was one of the best they had seen.

One companys loss is annothers gain.

Is there no way you can get that money made up Pete, there are so many benefits out the like family vredit etc, but not sure what you cab quailfy for.

It just stinks, they make a law with the minimum wage and then make rules so it can be avoided.   :(
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Post by: Gaffers on 07 October 2009, 21:57:26
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That is bloody disgraceful! It is nothing short of exploitation :(
When I first started my apprenticeship in 1969 I was paid the princely sum of 10 pence an hour (£4.00 a week). It was 'on the job training' & you weren't told twice! You picked up the job very quickly in those days, and the blokes were damn good teachers too! :y

Aye when I joined the Army you were taught by the Signals twins..... Hurts and Megahurts :y


I  had the same two in the Navy mate, only they were called  Ninetails & his cat! ;D

Is that what they're calling what you guys do in the shower nowadays...?  ::) ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: PhilRich on 07 October 2009, 22:08:23
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That is bloody disgraceful! It is nothing short of exploitation :(
When I first started my apprenticeship in 1969 I was paid the princely sum of 10 pence an hour (£4.00 a week). It was 'on the job training' & you weren't told twice! You picked up the job very quickly in those days, and the blokes were damn good teachers too! :y

Aye when I joined the Army you were taught by the Signals twins..... Hurts and Megahurts :y


I  had the same two in the Navy mate, only they were called  Ninetails & his cat! ;D

Is that what they're calling what you guys do in the shower nowadays...?  ::) ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D


I wouldn't know mate, ships still had guns when I was in and a 'shower' was a squad who couldn't march properly  ;) ;D :y