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Title: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: Banjax on 07 October 2009, 09:28:49
heir apparent to the Osborne baronetcy of Ballintaylor as son of the 17th Baron.

i love someone who's richer than Manchester United telling us "we're all in it together" - i'm sure he'd know what the average joe's life is like  :y

we're all in it together to deprive the poorest in society of any meagre handouts, whilst rewarding the very richest by cutting inheritance tax (he'd know all about inheritance to be fair  ;D) 


sorry - i'm positive he has the best and most honourable of intentions and he'll treat everyone fairly  8-)
Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 07 October 2009, 09:33:16
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heir apparent to the Osborne baronetcy of Ballintaylor as son of the 17th Baron.

i love someone who's richer than Manchester United telling us "we're all in it together" - i'm sure he'd know what the average joe's life is like  :y

we're all in it together to deprive the poorest in society of any meagre handouts, whilst rewarding the very richest by cutting inheritance tax (he'd know all about inheritance to be fair  ;D) 


sorry - i'm positive he has the best and most honourable of intentions and he'll treat everyone fairly  8-)


You'll be voting Conservative then Bannjaxx!!  Good man!! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)
Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: Banjax on 07 October 2009, 09:35:44
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heir apparent to the Osborne baronetcy of Ballintaylor as son of the 17th Baron.

i love someone who's richer than Manchester United telling us "we're all in it together" - i'm sure he'd know what the average joe's life is like  :y

we're all in it together to deprive the poorest in society of any meagre handouts, whilst rewarding the very richest by cutting inheritance tax (he'd know all about inheritance to be fair  ;D) 


sorry - i'm positive he has the best and most honourable of intentions and he'll treat everyone fairly  8-)


You'll be voting Conservative then Bannjaxx!!  Good man!! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)

 ;D ;D just getting the ball rolling  ::)




Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 07 October 2009, 09:40:23
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heir apparent to the Osborne baronetcy of Ballintaylor as son of the 17th Baron.

i love someone who's richer than Manchester United telling us "we're all in it together" - i'm sure he'd know what the average joe's life is like  :y

we're all in it together to deprive the poorest in society of any meagre handouts, whilst rewarding the very richest by cutting inheritance tax (he'd know all about inheritance to be fair  ;D) 


sorry - i'm positive he has the best and most honourable of intentions and he'll treat everyone fairly  8-)


You'll be voting Conservative then Bannjaxx!!  Good man!! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)

 ;D ;D just getting the ball rolling  ::)





I bet this thread does that! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)

I can see another Eaton / Oxford v. John Bloggs Comprehensive debate coming on! :D :D :D :D ;) ;)
Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: Banjax on 07 October 2009, 10:04:53
bring the noise   ;D
Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 07 October 2009, 10:53:48
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heir apparent to the Osborne baronetcy of Ballintaylor as son of the 17th Baron.

i love someone who's richer than Manchester United telling us "we're all in it together" - i'm sure he'd know what the average joe's life is like  :y

we're all in it together to deprive the poorest in society of any meagre handouts, whilst rewarding the very richest by cutting inheritance tax (he'd know all about inheritance to be fair  ;D) 


sorry - i'm positive he has the best and most honourable of intentions and he'll treat everyone fairly  8-)

Agreed......Eton educated "Tory boy"buffoon.....nasty minded public school idiot.......no understanding whatsoever of the real world......still has a nanny to dress him in the morning. :( :(

Apparently though.....he has a good voice....and took part in recording "The Eton boating song".....as you do. ;D ;D
Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 07 October 2009, 10:58:09
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heir apparent to the Osborne baronetcy of Ballintaylor as son of the 17th Baron.

i love someone who's richer than Manchester United telling us "we're all in it together" - i'm sure he'd know what the average joe's life is like  :y

we're all in it together to deprive the poorest in society of any meagre handouts, whilst rewarding the very richest by cutting inheritance tax (he'd know all about inheritance to be fair  ;D) 


sorry - i'm positive he has the best and most honourable of intentions and he'll treat everyone fairly  8-)


You'll be voting Conservative then Bannjaxx!!  Good man!! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)

 ;D ;D just getting the ball rolling  ::)





I bet this thread does that! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)

I can see another Eaton / Oxford v. John Bloggs Comprehensive debate coming on! :D :D :D :D ;) ;)


See Lizzie............literacy standards .......are slipping at Eton. :D :D ;)
Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: Nickbat on 07 October 2009, 11:17:57
So, in the Optimist/Bannjaax world, if you happen to have been born into a monied and titled family, you would be banned from serving in government or having an opinion as to the way the economic situation should be handled.

Just pathetic class hatred. Graphically illustrated by the unnecessary use of his rare middle name, as if that makes him a worse person.

I don't happen to agree with all his ideas on the economy, but this sort of attack on his background is just odious.   >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: Varche on 07 October 2009, 11:51:20
Did we have anyone slagging off Peter BENJAMIN Mandelson?  :) :)

I didn't see much in what the Tories were offering that will actually hit the wealthy but plenty to hit the poor. Just one example. Retirement at 66. Poor person has to keep working but rich person has his portfolio of personal pension plans to exercise at whatever age (after 50). Perhaps they should be changed to 66 too?! 
Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: Banjax on 07 October 2009, 12:04:25
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So, in the Optimist/Bannjaax world, if you happen to have been born into a monied and titled family, you would be banned from serving in government or having an opinion as to the way the economic situation should be handled.

Just pathetic class hatred. Graphically illustrated by the unnecessary use of his rare middle name, as if that makes him a worse person.

I don't happen to agree with all his ideas on the economy, but this sort of attack on his background is just odious.   >:( >:( >:(


what a wonderful world that would  ;D

anyway i can't tug my forelock to thems thats better due to severely receding hairline  :y

it shouldn't bar you, but i really can't see how it gives you a fair and balanced opinion of how the real world works, not all public schools, mind just the really exclusive ones  :-?
Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: Entwood on 07 October 2009, 12:18:19
So the idea of an intelligent, well educated person acting responsibly is now seen as an odious crime ???

Perhaps the "Ay lad, canst thou hear me at back, wilst thou fetch us a pint" type is more suiting to some ??

Explains a lot as to why/how the country is in such a mess I suppose ... politics of envy ... so lets vote in the thickest idiots instead....  :(
Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 07 October 2009, 12:53:54
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So, in the Optimist/Bannjaax world, if you happen to have been born into a monied and titled family, you would be banned from serving in government or having an opinion as to the way the economic situation should be handled.

Just pathetic class hatred. Graphically illustrated by the unnecessary use of his rare middle name, as if that makes him a worse person.

I don't happen to agree with all his ideas on the economy, but this sort of attack on his background is just odious.   >:( >:( >:(


Thank you for your kind supportive words Nickbat. ::)
We need intelligent.....articulate......and erudite individuals to form the next government...
such people can be found in our state schools and universities.....normal people. ;) ;)
The very idea .....that in 2009 we need to get 75%(if we get as seems likely a Conservative government) of our front bench politicians from some insular ......outdated ........institution such as Eton(where it is still 1957).....is quite frankly laughable.
We live in a diverse ....ever changing society......Our government needs to reflect this. :y :y
Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 07 October 2009, 13:31:56
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heir apparent to the Osborne baronetcy of Ballintaylor as son of the 17th Baron.

i love someone who's richer than Manchester United telling us "we're all in it together" - i'm sure he'd know what the average joe's life is like  :y

we're all in it together to deprive the poorest in society of any meagre handouts, whilst rewarding the very richest by cutting inheritance tax (he'd know all about inheritance to be fair  ;D) 


sorry - i'm positive he has the best and most honourable of intentions and he'll treat everyone fairly  8-)


You'll be voting Conservative then Bannjaxx!!  Good man!! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)

 ;D ;D just getting the ball rolling  ::)





I bet this thread does that! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)

I can see another Eaton / Oxford v. John Bloggs Comprehensive debate coming on! :D :D :D :D ;) ;)


See Lizzie............literacy standards .......are slipping at Eton. :D :D ;)

No, not at all Optimist! ::) ::) ::) ::)

I was just thinking of eating some top nosh! :P :P :P :P :P ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)
Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 07 October 2009, 13:35:59
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So, in the Optimist/Bannjaax world, if you happen to have been born into a monied and titled family, you would be banned from serving in government or having an opinion as to the way the economic situation should be handled.

Just pathetic class hatred. Graphically illustrated by the unnecessary use of his rare middle name, as if that makes him a worse person.

I don't happen to agree with all his ideas on the economy, but this sort of attack on his background is just odious.   >:( >:( >:(


Thank you for your kind supportive words Nickbat. ::)
We need intelligent.....articulate......and erudite individuals to form the next government...
such people can be found in our state schools and universities.....normal people. ;) ;)
The very idea .....that in 2009 we need to get 75%(if we get as seems likely a Conservative government) of our front bench politicians from some insular ......outdated ........institution such as Eton(where it is still 1957).....is quite frankly laughable.
We live in a diverse ....ever changing society......Our government needs to reflect this. :y :y


Now look what you have started Bannjaxx!!!!!!!! ::) ::) ::) ::)

Now I wouldn't of dream't of doing such a controversial thread!! ::) ::) ::)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)

Bloody stirrer! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D  :y :y :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: raywilb on 07 October 2009, 13:43:13
it doesn,t help a mps cause when seen to be quoffing a drink that costs equivalent to what some folks may be expected to live on for two weeks +
 
   
Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 07 October 2009, 13:44:20
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it doesn,t help a mps cause when seen to be quoffing a drink that costs equivalent to what some folks may be expected to live on for two weeks +
 

   

 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o what drink is that then? :-/ :-/ :-/
Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: Nickbat on 07 October 2009, 13:53:18
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it doesn,t help a mps cause when seen to be quoffing a drink that costs equivalent to what some folks may be expected to live on for two weeks +
 

   

 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o what drink is that then? :-/ :-/ :-/


"...a drink that costs equivalent to what some folks may be expected to live on for two weeks."

Champagne: £14.25 a bottle at Tesco.

 ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 07 October 2009, 13:56:32
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it doesn,t help a mps cause when seen to be quoffing a drink that costs equivalent to what some folks may be expected to live on for two weeks +
 

   

 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o what drink is that then? :-/ :-/ :-/


"...a drink that costs equivalent to what some folks may be expected to live on for two weeks."

Champagne: £14.25 a bottle at Tesco.

 ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)


Well I'm a Conservative and I live on that (from Sainsbury's!!) having four bottles a day :P :P :P :P

What else does one do then?  Doesn't everyone live on Champagne my dear fellows? :D :D :D :D :D :D ;) ;)
Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: Entwood on 07 October 2009, 14:01:35
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heir apparent to the Osborne baronetcy of Ballintaylor as son of the 17th Baron.

i love someone who's richer than Manchester United telling us "we're all in it together" - i'm sure he'd know what the average joe's life is like  :y

we're all in it together to deprive the poorest in society of any meagre handouts, whilst rewarding the very richest by cutting inheritance tax (he'd know all about inheritance to be fair  ;D) 


sorry - i'm positive he has the best and most honourable of intentions and he'll treat everyone fairly  8-)

Agreed......Eton educated "Tory boy"buffoon.....nasty minded public school thingy.......no understanding whatsoever of the real world......still has a nanny to dress him in the morning. :( :(

Apparently though.....he has a good voice....and took part in recording "The Eton boating song".....as you do. ;D ;D

If you are going to try and slag folks off, please - at least - TRY and get some facts correct ...  :)

George Osborne : Educated at Norland Place School, St Paul's School and Magdalen College, Oxford .......

Not a mention of Eton there anywhere ..  :y :y :y
Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: STMO999 on 07 October 2009, 14:30:29
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heir apparent to the Osborne baronetcy of Ballintaylor as son of the 17th Baron.

i love someone who's richer than Manchester United telling us "we're all in it together" - i'm sure he'd know what the average joe's life is like  :y

we're all in it together to deprive the poorest in society of any meagre handouts, whilst rewarding the very richest by cutting inheritance tax (he'd know all about inheritance to be fair  ;D) 


sorry - i'm positive he has the best and most honourable of intentions and he'll treat everyone fairly  8-)

Agreed......Eton educated "Tory boy"buffoon.....nasty minded public school thingy.......no understanding whatsoever of the real world......still has a nanny to dress him in the morning. :( :(

Apparently though.....he has a good voice....and took part in recording "The Eton boating song".....as you do. ;D ;D

If you are going to try and slag folks off, please - at least - TRY and get some facts correct ...  :)

George Osborne : Educated at Norland Place School, St Paul's School and Magdalen College, Oxford .......

Not a mention of Eton there anywhere ..  :y :y :y


[size=16]OOOOPS!![/size]  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: Kevin Wood on 07 October 2009, 14:32:17
At least it's not all doom and gloom.  :y

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/07/tory_speed_cameras/

Kevin
Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 07 October 2009, 15:06:26
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heir apparent to the Osborne baronetcy of Ballintaylor as son of the 17th Baron.

i love someone who's richer than Manchester United telling us "we're all in it together" - i'm sure he'd know what the average joe's life is like  :y

we're all in it together to deprive the poorest in society of any meagre handouts, whilst rewarding the very richest by cutting inheritance tax (he'd know all about inheritance to be fair  ;D) 


sorry - i'm positive he has the best and most honourable of intentions and he'll treat everyone fairly  8-)

Agreed......Eton educated "Tory boy"buffoon.....nasty minded public school thingy.......no understanding whatsoever of the real world......still has a nanny to dress him in the morning. :( :(

Apparently though.....he has a good voice....and took part in recording "The Eton boating song".....as you do. ;D ;D

If you are going to try and slag folks off, please - at least - TRY and get some facts correct ...  :)

George Osborne : Educated at Norland Place School, St Paul's School and Magdalen College, Oxford .......

Not a mention of Eton there anywhere ..  :y :y :y


[size=16]OOOOPS!![/size]  ;D ;D ;D




Yes ...OOOOOPs......is right.......my mistake.......looks like I got him mixed up with that other "old Etonian"....David Cameron. :-[ ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 07 October 2009, 15:11:12
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it doesn,t help a mps cause when seen to be quoffing a drink that costs equivalent to what some folks may be expected to live on for two weeks +
 

   

 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o what drink is that then? :-/ :-/ :-/


"...a drink that costs equivalent to what some folks may be expected to live on for two weeks."

Champagne: £14.25 a bottle at Tesco.

 ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)


Well I'm a Conservative and I live on that (from Sainsbury's!!) having four bottles a day :P :P :P :P

What else does one do then?  Doesn't everyone live on Champagne my dear fellows? :D :D :D :D :D :D ;) ;)

Were you Marie Antoinette.....in a previous life .....by any chance Lizzie...........Let them eat cake. :D :D ;D ;D
Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 07 October 2009, 16:27:18
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heir apparent to the Osborne baronetcy of Ballintaylor as son of the 17th Baron.

i love someone who's richer than Manchester United telling us "we're all in it together" - i'm sure he'd know what the average joe's life is like  :y

we're all in it together to deprive the poorest in society of any meagre handouts, whilst rewarding the very richest by cutting inheritance tax (he'd know all about inheritance to be fair  ;D) 


sorry - i'm positive he has the best and most honourable of intentions and he'll treat everyone fairly  8-)


Aah it's nice to see bj stirring the keek again - where would we be without a generous lesson in the ideology of the failed ideal?  ;D ;D ;D



sorry - i'm positive he has the best and most honourable of intentions and he'll treat everyone fairly  8-)


..... can you quote any sources to back that bj? - sarcasm based on class prejudice rarely works in my view, gets in the way of properly constructed argument ;) ;)
Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 07 October 2009, 16:32:47
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Yes ...OOOOOPs......is right.......my mistake.......looks like I got him mixed up with that other "old Etonian"....David Cameron. :-[ ;D ;D ;D ;D


...indeed Optio self-inflicted blindness was always the bane of the socialist ideal when it came to the issue of class :( :( - prevented the worth of any individual being assessed in anything but the negative due to unwarranted prejudice - didn't prevent a socialist elite being placed to fill the gap however ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 07 October 2009, 16:41:21
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heir apparent to the Osborne baronetcy of Ballintaylor as son of the 17th Baron.

i love someone who's richer than Manchester United telling us "we're all in it together" - i'm sure he'd know what the average joe's life is like  :y

we're all in it together to deprive the poorest in society of any meagre handouts, whilst rewarding the very richest by cutting inheritance tax (he'd know all about inheritance to be fair  ;D) 


sorry - i'm positive he has the best and most honourable of intentions and he'll treat everyone fairly  8-)



heir apparent to the Osborne baronetcy of Ballintaylor as son of the 17th Baron.


...and that is his fault how?


i'm sure he'd know what the average joe's life is like

...I'm sure he reads and listens to the same news as you, so why would he be unaware of the plight that many now face?


we're all in it together to deprive the poorest in society of any meagre handouts, whilst rewarding the very richest by cutting inheritance tax (he'd know all about inheritance to be fair 


...can you give a run down on what you understand his proposals to be bj?
Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 07 October 2009, 16:47:50
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Agreed......Eton educated "Tory boy"buffoon.....nasty minded public school thingy.......no understanding whatsoever of the real world......still has a nanny to dress him in the morning. :( :(

Apparently though.....he has a good voice....and took part in recording "The Eton boating song".....as you do. ;D ;D


Eton educated "Tory boy"buffoon.....nasty minded public school thingy.......no understanding whatsoever of the real world......still has a nanny to dress him in the morning


...the uncalled for strength of your language Optio blunts any validity your comments might have - if you were able to substantiate them of course ::) ::)
Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 07 October 2009, 16:53:09
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So the idea of an intelligent, well educated person acting responsibly is now seen as an odious crime ???

Perhaps the "Ay lad, canst thou hear me at back, wilst thou fetch us a pint" type is more suiting to some ??

Explains a lot as to why/how the country is in such a mess I suppose ... politics of envy ... so lets vote in the thickest idiots instead....  :(


Some would indeed advocate that, Entwood :( :( - anything to keep the 'other crowd' out.
Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: Banjax on 07 October 2009, 17:09:52
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So, in the Optimist/Bannjaax world, if you happen to have been born into a monied and titled family, you would be banned from serving in government or having an opinion as to the way the economic situation should be handled.

Just pathetic class hatred. Graphically illustrated by the unnecessary use of his rare middle name, as if that makes him a worse person.

I don't happen to agree with all his ideas on the economy, but this sort of attack on his background is just odious.   >:( >:( >:(


Thank you for your kind supportive words Nickbat. ::)
We need intelligent.....articulate......and erudite individuals to form the next government...
such people can be found in our state schools and universities.....normal people. ;) ;)
The very idea .....that in 2009 we need to get 75%(if we get as seems likely a Conservative government) of our front bench politicians from some insular ......outdated ........institution such as Eton(where it is still 1957).....is quite frankly laughable.
We live in a diverse ....ever changing society......Our government needs to reflect this. :y :y


Now look what you have started Bannjaxx!!!!!!!! ::) ::) ::) ::)

Now I wouldn't of dream't of doing such a controversial thread!! ::) ::) ::)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)

Bloody stirrer! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D  :y :y :y :y :y :y



moi?  ::)

i'm keeping my powder dry for Mr Cameron on Friday - this was just a shot across the bows  ;D
Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: albitz on 07 October 2009, 17:18:27
Yet another slight variation on a constant theme from the same people - politics of envy.soooooo tedious,cant be bothered with it any more. terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 07 October 2009, 17:20:09
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moi?  ::)

i'm keeping my powder dry for Mr Cameron on Friday - this was just a shot across the bows  ;D


...can I look forward to constructive comments based on relevant facts other than class bashing bj ::) ::)
Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: Entwood on 07 October 2009, 17:20:11
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So, in the Optimist/Bannjaax world, if you happen to have been born into a monied and titled family, you would be banned from serving in government or having an opinion as to the way the economic situation should be handled.

Just pathetic class hatred. Graphically illustrated by the unnecessary use of his rare middle name, as if that makes him a worse person.

I don't happen to agree with all his ideas on the economy, but this sort of attack on his background is just odious.   >:( >:( >:(


Thank you for your kind supportive words Nickbat. ::)
We need intelligent.....articulate......and erudite individuals to form the next government...
such people can be found in our state schools and universities.....normal people. ;) ;)
The very idea .....that in 2009 we need to get 75%(if we get as seems likely a Conservative government) of our front bench politicians from some insular ......outdated ........institution such as Eton(where it is still 1957).....is quite frankly laughable.
We live in a diverse ....ever changing society......Our government needs to reflect this. :y :y


Now look what you have started Bannjaxx!!!!!!!! ::) ::) ::) ::)

Now I wouldn't of dream't of doing such a controversial thread!! ::) ::) ::)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)

Bloody stirrer! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D  :y :y :y :y :y :y



moi?  ::)

i'm keeping my powder dry for Mr Cameron on Friday - this was just a shot across the bows  ;D

So .. before he even speaks you have already decided on your course of action ??? 

Seems to show where and what you stand for IMHO  ... :)

How about a complete break from tradition .. ??

Actually listen to, inwardly digest, amd above all THINK about what he actually says .. rather than repeating edited TV/Newspaper pap ??? .... or would that be too much to ask .... some degree of independent thought and analysis ????
Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: Banjax on 07 October 2009, 17:23:25
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So the idea of an intelligent, well educated person acting responsibly is now seen as an odious crime ???

Perhaps the "Ay lad, canst thou hear me at back, wilst thou fetch us a pint" type is more suiting to some ??

Explains a lot as to why/how the country is in such a mess I suppose ... politics of envy ... so lets vote in the thickest idiots instead....  :(


theres this horrendous myth perpetuated that because you're rich and have had the benefit of public education that you're somehow more intelligent - disproved by Princess Di of course - best schools money could by and thick as two short planks she was  :y
Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: Banjax on 07 October 2009, 17:29:27
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So, in the Optimist/Bannjaax world, if you happen to have been born into a monied and titled family, you would be banned from serving in government or having an opinion as to the way the economic situation should be handled.

Just pathetic class hatred. Graphically illustrated by the unnecessary use of his rare middle name, as if that makes him a worse person.

I don't happen to agree with all his ideas on the economy, but this sort of attack on his background is just odious.   >:( >:( >:(


Thank you for your kind supportive words Nickbat. ::)
We need intelligent.....articulate......and erudite individuals to form the next government...
such people can be found in our state schools and universities.....normal people. ;) ;)
The very idea .....that in 2009 we need to get 75%(if we get as seems likely a Conservative government) of our front bench politicians from some insular ......outdated ........institution such as Eton(where it is still 1957).....is quite frankly laughable.
We live in a diverse ....ever changing society......Our government needs to reflect this. :y :y


Now look what you have started Bannjaxx!!!!!!!! ::) ::) ::) ::)

Now I wouldn't of dream't of doing such a controversial thread!! ::) ::) ::)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)

Bloody stirrer! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D  :y :y :y :y :y :y



moi?  ::)

i'm keeping my powder dry for Mr Cameron on Friday - this was just a shot across the bows  ;D

So .. before he even speaks you have already decided on your course of action ??? 

Seems to show where and what you stand for IMHO  ... :)

How about a complete break from tradition .. ??

Actually listen to, inwardly digest, amd above all THINK about what he actually says .. rather than repeating edited TV/Newspaper pap ??? .... or would that be too much to ask .... some degree of independent thought and analysis ????



interesting theory....i haven't had a chance to look at a paper today tho  :-/

i'm sure DC will say all the right things - but theres appears to be some priority with getting cheap and easy votes by targetting society's poorest (and typically non-voters), while gently warning their mates in the city to behave - or we'll nudge up a tax on them (which any half decent corporate accountant would avoid anyway) but i'll wait on old worm-face and see how much his snake oil costs  :y
Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 07 October 2009, 17:30:28
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So the idea of an intelligent, well educated person acting responsibly is now seen as an odious crime ???

Perhaps the "Ay lad, canst thou hear me at back, wilst thou fetch us a pint" type is more suiting to some ??

Explains a lot as to why/how the country is in such a mess I suppose ... politics of envy ... so lets vote in the thickest idiots instead....  :(


theres this horrendous myth perpetuated that because you're rich and have had the benefit of public education that you're somehow more intelligent - disproved by Princess Di of course - best schools money could by and thick as two short planks she was  :y



...by whom bj, seems to me that this is the position taken by those who would envy such people and their circumstances ;) ;)
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 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o what drink is that then? :-/ :-/ :-/


"...a drink that costs equivalent to what some folks may be expected to live on for two weeks."

Champagne: £14.25 a bottle at Tesco.

 ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)


Well I'm a Conservative and I live on that (from Sainsbury's!!) having four bottles a day :P :P :P :P

What else does one do then?  Doesn't everyone live on Champagne my dear fellows? :D :D :D :D :D :D ;) ;)

Were you Marie Antoinette.....in a previous life .....by any chance Lizzie...........Let them eat cake. :D :D ;D ;D

Oh yes indeed, although actually I never said that in my previous life; it was all a propanda 'lie', which was probably put out and about by the British!! ::) ::) ::) :D :D :D ;) ;)
Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: Banjax on 07 October 2009, 17:36:51
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So, in the Optimist/Bannjaax world, if you happen to have been born into a monied and titled family, you would be banned from serving in government or having an opinion as to the way the economic situation should be handled.

Just pathetic class hatred. Graphically illustrated by the unnecessary use of his rare middle name, as if that makes him a worse person.

I don't happen to agree with all his ideas on the economy, but this sort of attack on his background is just odious.   >:( >:( >:(



his rare middle name "Gideon" was actually his first name which he dropped before seeking election as he felt (rightly) that a "George" would garner more votes than a "Gideon"

its not the name, its the fact that these old etonians are desperately falling over themselves to mask their privileged past to get into power. the glorious exception is Boris Johnson who doesn't try to hide his roots, is witty, intelligent, honest and very engaging!  :y
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interesting theory....i haven't had a chance to look at a paper today tho  :-/

i'm sure DC will say all the right things - but theres appears to be some priority with getting cheap and easy votes by targetting society's poorest (and typically non-voters), while gently warning their mates in the city to behave - or we'll nudge up a tax on them (which any half decent corporate accountant would avoid anyway) but i'll wait on old worm-face and see how much his snake oil costs  :y



....where is the theory bj, surely someone who wishes to be 'fair and balanced' - your words from an earlier post - would want to be fully acquainted with relevant facts before coming to well considered conclusions rather than those seemingly based on naked class prejudice :-/ :-/
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interesting theory....i haven't had a chance to look at a paper today tho  :-/

i'm sure DC will say all the right things - but theres appears to be some priority with getting cheap and easy votes by targetting society's poorest (and typically non-voters), while gently warning their mates in the city to behave - or we'll nudge up a tax on them (which any half decent corporate accountant would avoid anyway) but i'll wait on old worm-face and see how much his snake oil costs  :y



....where is the theory bj, surely someone who wishes to be 'fair and balanced' - your words from an earlier post - would want to be fully acquainted with relevant facts before coming to well considered conclusions rather than those seemingly based on naked class prejudice :-/ :-/

referring to entwoods theory that i was taking my opinion from the papers without listening to what Gideon George was saying  :y
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interesting theory....i haven't had a chance to look at a paper today tho  :-/

i'm sure DC will say all the right things - but theres appears to be some priority with getting cheap and easy votes by targetting society's poorest (and typically non-voters), while gently warning their mates in the city to behave - or we'll nudge up a tax on them (which any half decent corporate accountant would avoid anyway) but i'll wait on old worm-face and see how much his snake oil costs  :y



....where is the theory bj, surely someone who wishes to be 'fair and balanced' - your words from an earlier post - would want to be fully acquainted with relevant facts before coming to well considered conclusions rather than those seemingly based on naked class prejudice :-/ :-/

too right! whats wrong with a little class prejudice? i'd rather vote for the clued up than the clueless - as this seems unlikely, i'll base my decision on prejudice - i know how much the tories will look after their own, they always have and they always will  :o
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it doesn,t help a mps cause when seen to be quoffing a drink that costs equivalent to what some folks may be expected to live on for two weeks +
 

   

 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o what drink is that then? :-/ :-/ :-/


"...a drink that costs equivalent to what some folks may be expected to live on for two weeks."

Champagne: £14.25 a bottle at Tesco.

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Well I'm a Conservative and I live on that (from Sainsbury's!!) having four bottles a day :P :P :P :P

What else does one do then?  Doesn't everyone live on Champagne my dear fellows? :D :D :D :D :D :D ;) ;)

Were you Marie Antoinette.....in a previous life .....by any chance Lizzie...........Let them eat cake. :D :D ;D ;D

Oh yes indeed, although actually I never said that in my previous life; it was all a propanda 'lie', which was probably put out and about by the British!! ::) ::) ::) :D :D :D ;) ;)

i'm fuelled by champagne (that cheap cava gives me indigestion) :y
Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: HolyCount on 07 October 2009, 17:49:54
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So, in the Optimist/Bannjaax world, if you happen to have been born into a monied and titled family, you would be banned from serving in government or having an opinion as to the way the economic situation should be handled.

Just pathetic class hatred. Graphically illustrated by the unnecessary use of his rare middle name, as if that makes him a worse person.

I don't happen to agree with all his ideas on the economy, but this sort of attack on his background is just odious.   >:( >:( >:(


His politics may be suspect and he might, indeed, be a pillock --- but being born to money isn't his fault, not is being from a titled family.  Incidentally the two do not always go together !!!!

Bottom line is that politicians of all colours will be lying through their teeth, trying to say what they hope we want to hear and delivering b. all if elected  >:( :(
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interesting theory....i haven't had a chance to look at a paper today tho  :-/

i'm sure DC will say all the right things - but theres appears to be some priority with getting cheap and easy votes by targetting society's poorest (and typically non-voters), while gently warning their mates in the city to behave - or we'll nudge up a tax on them (which any half decent corporate accountant would avoid anyway) but i'll wait on old worm-face and see how much his snake oil costs  :y



....where is the theory bj, surely someone who wishes to be 'fair and balanced' - your words from an earlier post - would want to be fully acquainted with relevant facts before coming to well considered conclusions rather than those seemingly based on naked class prejudice :-/ :-/

referring to entwoods theory that i was taking my opinion from the papers without listening to what Gideon George was saying  :y


...I thought Entwood's comments referred to what you said concerning DC and whatever comments he would be making on Friday :-/ :-/
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interesting theory....i haven't had a chance to look at a paper today tho  :-/

i'm sure DC will say all the right things - but theres appears to be some priority with getting cheap and easy votes by targetting society's poorest (and typically non-voters), while gently warning their mates in the city to behave - or we'll nudge up a tax on them (which any half decent corporate accountant would avoid anyway) but i'll wait on old worm-face and see how much his snake oil costs  :y



....where is the theory bj, surely someone who wishes to be 'fair and balanced' - your words from an earlier post - would want to be fully acquainted with relevant facts before coming to well considered conclusions rather than those seemingly based on naked class prejudice :-/ :-/

too right! whats wrong with a little class prejudice? i'd rather vote for the clued up than the clueless - as this seems unlikely, i'll base my decision on prejudice - i know how much the tories will look after their own, they always have and they always will  :o



too right! whats wrong with a little class prejudice

...a little ;D ;D please bj ::) ::)


i know how much the tories will look after their own, they always have and they always will

...now that's a lot of class prejudice in my view :y :y
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Post by: Banjax on 07 October 2009, 17:59:50
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So the idea of an intelligent, well educated person acting responsibly is now seen as an odious crime ???

Perhaps the "Ay lad, canst thou hear me at back, wilst thou fetch us a pint" type is more suiting to some ??

Explains a lot as to why/how the country is in such a mess I suppose ... politics of envy ... so lets vote in the thickest idiots instead....  :(


theres this horrendous myth perpetuated that because you're rich and have had the benefit of public education that you're somehow more intelligent - disproved by Princess Di of course - best schools money could by and thick as two short planks she was  :y



...by whom bj, seems to me that this is the position taken by those who would envy such people and their circumstances ;) ;)

put politics aside Zulu - you're a decent, intelligent, compassionate person in my view...now - doesn't it grate just a little that these landed gentry who've never had to work a day in their lives if they didn't want to have the temerity to take money off someone who gets a few quid a week on benefits (so what if some are cheating - the amount they steal wouldn't make a dent in what we gave to the banks)? pay freezes for civil servants?

that doesn't grate - just a little? you think any of these old etonians have worried about a bill dropping through the letter box?
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interesting theory....i haven't had a chance to look at a paper today tho  :-/

i'm sure DC will say all the right things - but theres appears to be some priority with getting cheap and easy votes by targetting society's poorest (and typically non-voters), while gently warning their mates in the city to behave - or we'll nudge up a tax on them (which any half decent corporate accountant would avoid anyway) but i'll wait on old worm-face and see how much his snake oil costs  :y



....where is the theory bj, surely someone who wishes to be 'fair and balanced' - your words from an earlier post - would want to be fully acquainted with relevant facts before coming to well considered conclusions rather than those seemingly based on naked class prejudice :-/ :-/

too right! whats wrong with a little class prejudice? i'd rather vote for the clued up than the clueless - as this seems unlikely, i'll base my decision on prejudice - i know how much the tories will look after their own, they always have and they always will  :o



too right! whats wrong with a little class prejudice

...a little ;D ;D please bj ::) ::)


i know how much the tories will look after their own, they always have and they always will

...now that's a lot of class prejudice in my view :y :y




....and furthermore why be prejudiced at all, does this not cloud the judgement : ::) ::) - nothing like keeping an open mind - what? :y :y
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Post by: Entwood on 07 October 2009, 18:02:28
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So the idea of an intelligent, well educated person acting responsibly is now seen as an odious crime ???

Perhaps the "Ay lad, canst thou hear me at back, wilst thou fetch us a pint" type is more suiting to some ??

Explains a lot as to why/how the country is in such a mess I suppose ... politics of envy ... so lets vote in the thickest idiots instead....  :(


theres this horrendous myth perpetuated that because you're rich and have had the benefit of public education that you're somehow more intelligent - disproved by Princess Di of course - best schools money could by and thick as two short planks she was  :y

So his attending Oxford (St Magdalens) University (one of the hardest to get into) and obtaining an upper second degree is also being ignored ???

Methinks you should do some actual research before pontificating ...  :)
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Post by: Banjax on 07 October 2009, 18:05:12
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So the idea of an intelligent, well educated person acting responsibly is now seen as an odious crime ???

Perhaps the "Ay lad, canst thou hear me at back, wilst thou fetch us a pint" type is more suiting to some ??

Explains a lot as to why/how the country is in such a mess I suppose ... politics of envy ... so lets vote in the thickest idiots instead....  :(


theres this horrendous myth perpetuated that because you're rich and have had the benefit of public education that you're somehow more intelligent - disproved by Princess Di of course - best schools money could by and thick as two short planks she was  :y

So his attending Oxford (St Magdalens) University (one of the hardest to get into) and obtaining an upper second degree is also being ignored ???

Methinks you should do some actual research before pontificating ...  :)

not if you went to eton it's not  ;)
Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: Entwood on 07 October 2009, 18:06:56
As already stated .. he didn't .... :)
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So the idea of an intelligent, well educated person acting responsibly is now seen as an odious crime ???

Perhaps the "Ay lad, canst thou hear me at back, wilst thou fetch us a pint" type is more suiting to some ??

Explains a lot as to why/how the country is in such a mess I suppose ... politics of envy ... so lets vote in the thickest idiots instead....  :(


theres this horrendous myth perpetuated that because you're rich and have had the benefit of public education that you're somehow more intelligent - disproved by Princess Di of course - best schools money could by and thick as two short planks she was  :y

So his attending Oxford (St Magdalens) University (one of the hardest to get into) and obtaining an upper second degree is also being ignored ???

Methinks you should do some actual research before pontificating ...  :)

wheres the fun in that? i'd turn into Nickbat! ;D ;D


(only joking Nick :y)
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Post by: Banjax on 07 October 2009, 18:17:41
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As already stated .. he didn't .... :)

sorry he went to St Pauls - he's an old St Paulian :y - (one the the original 9 public schools, along with charterhouse, harrow, eton winchester college, etc) 400 years of serving the nation i'm sure  ;D

i'm sure if it was a comprehensive, and his dad was a plumber he'd of still been accepted  ;)



jeezuz - something else just struck me - you mean he's one of the guys that the tories state didn't go to eton? is that what they mean then? he didn't go to eton.....thats true - good point  ;D
Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: PhilRich on 07 October 2009, 20:18:06
-Oh Gawd, all these big words and high falutin' ideals flying around has given me a headache ::) ;)
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-Oh Gawd, all these big words and high falutin' ideals flying around has given me a headache ::) ;)

maybe you should've gone to eton then - or wished you had...like half the OOF  ;D ;D
Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
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Too much of that wonderful Champagne does that ;D ;D ;D ;D

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzhic!hic! :P :P :P :P
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Too much of that wonderful Champagne does that ;D ;D ;D ;D

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzhic!hic! :P :P :P :P

your diamond tiara's slipping lizzie - most undignified  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: PhilRich on 07 October 2009, 21:50:43
Nothing undignified about Lizzie! she's a true Lady, even in her cups  ;) :y
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Too much of that wonderful Champagne does that ;D ;D ;D ;D

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzhic!hic! :P :P :P :P

your diamond tiara's slipping lizzie - most undignified  ;D ;D ;D


Well I'm only doing what the Royal's do you know! hic! hic! ;D ;D ;D ;D  Us Lizzie's must  stick together, mustn't one! ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)
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Post by: Dishevelled Den on 07 October 2009, 22:11:48
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put politics aside Zulu - you're a decent, intelligent, compassionate person in my view...now - doesn't it grate just a little that these landed gentry who've never had to work a day in their lives if they didn't want to have the temerity to take money off someone who gets a few quid a week on benefits (so what if some are cheating - the amount they steal wouldn't make a dent in what we gave to the banks)? pay freezes for civil servants?

that doesn't grate - just a little? you think any of these old etonians have worried about a bill dropping through the letter box?


you're a decent, intelligent, compassionate person in my view.


....are you hitting on me bj :o I have to tell you I don't put out on a first date :-* :-*


doesn't it grate just a little that these landed gentry who've never had to work a day in their lives if they didn't want to have the temerity to take money off someone who gets a few quid a week on benefits

...it doesn't grate on me at all bj and I don't think the need to address the confused and unbalanced welfare system can be described as an elitist Etonian plot to deny those in need the assistance they require.


so what if some are cheating - the amount they steal wouldn't make a dent in what we gave to the banks

...so theft and sharp practice are fine as long as they both are done by a certain demographic? – that’s quite a double standard there:-/ :-/



you think any of these old etonians have worried about a bill dropping through the letter box?

...if you're referring to the Tory front bench they probably don't have to - they're on a parliamentary salary (and expenses ) after all ;) ;)
Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: Vamps on 07 October 2009, 22:13:27
All this fuss and fighting, I don't really do politics and certainly not a local level, in that  vote on policies and evidence.

I am simply waiting for GB to be replaced then we can all watch as Labour get reelected, after all there is no one else up to the Job. And I speak as a past conservative voter. 
I have noticed that even the tory's are going to hit the working man for the worlds financial difficulties caused by the bankers, none of whom are going to be worrying about how to pay for Christmas. GB did not cause the recession.
And no, I am not one of those left wing lentil munchers of the PC brigade, we hear described on here, which incidentally, went down brilliantly in the office... :y :y

Just a few thoughts. ::) ::)
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-Oh Gawd, all these big words and high falutin' ideals flying around has given me a headache ::) ;)

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put politics aside Zulu - you're a decent, intelligent, compassionate person in my view...now - doesn't it grate just a little that these landed gentry who've never had to work a day in their lives if they didn't want to have the temerity to take money off someone who gets a few quid a week on benefits (so what if some are cheating - the amount they steal wouldn't make a dent in what we gave to the banks)? pay freezes for civil servants?

that doesn't grate - just a little? you think any of these old etonians have worried about a bill dropping through the letter box?


you're a decent, intelligent, compassionate person in my view.


....are you hitting on me bj :o I have to tell you I don't put out on a first date :-* :-*


doesn't it grate just a little that these landed gentry who've never had to work a day in their lives if they didn't want to have the temerity to take money off someone who gets a few quid a week on benefits

...it doesn't grate on me at all bj and I don't think the need to address the confused and unbalanced welfare system can be described as an elitist Etonian plot to deny those in need the assistance they require.


so what if some are cheating - the amount they steal wouldn't make a dent in what we gave to the banks

...so theft and sharp practice are fine as long as they both are done by a certain demographic? – that’s quite a double standard there:-/ :-/



you think any of these old etonians have worried about a bill dropping through the letter box?

...if you're referring to the Tory front bench they probably don't have to - they're on a parliamentary salary (and expenses ) after all ;) ;)

i'm not saying its fine and nothing should be done - i'm saying there are far bigger frauds in the city than some guy scamming a few extra thousand - but it is an easy target something DC has never shied away from.....

incidentally i watched the entertaining "when dave met boris" last night on more4, as well as dramatising certain events at Eton and Oxford it interviewed friends, family and classmates for insight - very enlightening - worth catching it if you can......i had no idea boris and dave were such rivals - might be interesting  :y
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Post by: Banjax on 08 October 2009, 09:01:03
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All this fuss and fighting, I don't really do politics and certainly not a local level, in that  vote on policies and evidence.

I am simply waiting for GB to be replaced then we can all watch as Labour get reelected, after all there is no one else up to the Job. And I speak as a past conservative voter. 
I have noticed that even the tory's are going to hit the working man for the worlds financial difficulties caused by the bankers, none of whom are going to be worrying about how to pay for Christmas. GB did not cause the recession.
And no, I am not one of those left wing lentil munchers of the PC brigade, we hear described on here, which incidentally, went down brilliantly in the office... :y :y

Just a few thoughts. ::) ::)

king vamps - voice of reason  :y
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i'm not saying its fine and nothing should be done - i'm saying there are far bigger frauds in the city than some guy scamming a few extra thousand - but it is an easy target something DC has never shied away from.....

incidentally i watched the entertaining "when dave met boris" last night on more4, as well as dramatising certain events at Eton and Oxford it interviewed friends, family and classmates for insight - very enlightening - worth catching it if you can......i had no idea boris and dave were such rivals - might be interesting  :y


Whoever forms the next administration - and I'm sceptical about DC's ability to be a true force for realistic change - the political reality will demand some extraordinary measures to address the current malaise, and by extension, cause discomfort to us all. 

Should that strength and desire be absent in the new administration then this country is finished. 

Boris enjoys being considered a buffoon – he is far from it - only those who base their judgement upon these superficial facets will fail to see the true depth and clarity contained within this apparently flawed diamond. 
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Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 08 October 2009, 11:16:28
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i'm not saying its fine and nothing should be done - i'm saying there are far bigger frauds in the city than some guy scamming a few extra thousand - but it is an easy target something DC has never shied away from.....

incidentally i watched the entertaining "when dave met boris" last night on more4, as well as dramatising certain events at Eton and Oxford it interviewed friends, family and classmates for insight - very enlightening - worth catching it if you can......i had no idea boris and dave were such rivals - might be interesting  :y


Whoever forms the next administration - and I'm sceptical about DC's ability to be a true force for realistic change - the political reality will demand some extraordinary measures to address the current malaise, and by extension, cause discomfort to us all. 

Should that strength and desire be absent in the new administration then this country is finished. 

Boris enjoys being considered a buffoon – he is far from it - only those who base their judgement upon these superficial facets will fail to see the true depth and clarity contained within this apparently flawed diamond. 

Zulu.............Thank you for your clarification...........regarding the "intellectual colossus".....Boris Johnson. ::) ::)
As a mere grammar school boy.....of lowly birth..and low I.Q.....it is inconceivable.....that I could possibly understand the greatness of such a man. ::) ::)
However....... as an illiterate member of the great unwashed proleteriat. :'( :'( :'(......I tend to think of Boris ...as A likeable  endearing cretin....who offers great entertainment value. ;) ;) ;) ;)



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i'm not saying its fine and nothing should be done - i'm saying there are far bigger frauds in the city than some guy scamming a few extra thousand - but it is an easy target something DC has never shied away from.....

incidentally i watched the entertaining "when dave met boris" last night on more4, as well as dramatising certain events at Eton and Oxford it interviewed friends, family and classmates for insight - very enlightening - worth catching it if you can......i had no idea boris and dave were such rivals - might be interesting  :y


Whoever forms the next administration - and I'm sceptical about DC's ability to be a true force for realistic change - the political reality will demand some extraordinary measures to address the current malaise, and by extension, cause discomfort to us all. 

Should that strength and desire be absent in the new administration then this country is finished. 

Boris enjoys being considered a buffoon – he is far from it - only those who base their judgement upon these superficial facets will fail to see the true depth and clarity contained within this apparently flawed diamond. 

i think i said earlier that i respect boris for not being afraid to be posh - he is fiercely intelligent to such an extent that apparently he rarely prepares anything as he knows he'll muddle through and it seems to work for him, this may give opponents cause for alarm and point out his failings, but his charm and humour rarely fail to win over an audience :y

BJ for PM?  ;D ;D


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i'm not saying its fine and nothing should be done - i'm saying there are far bigger frauds in the city than some guy scamming a few extra thousand - but it is an easy target something DC has never shied away from.....

incidentally i watched the entertaining "when dave met boris" last night on more4, as well as dramatising certain events at Eton and Oxford it interviewed friends, family and classmates for insight - very enlightening - worth catching it if you can......i had no idea boris and dave were such rivals - might be interesting  :y


Whoever forms the next administration - and I'm sceptical about DC's ability to be a true force for realistic change - the political reality will demand some extraordinary measures to address the current malaise, and by extension, cause discomfort to us all. 

Should that strength and desire be absent in the new administration then this country is finished. 

Boris enjoys being considered a buffoon – he is far from it - only those who base their judgement upon these superficial facets will fail to see the true depth and clarity contained within this apparently flawed diamond. 

i think i said earlier that i respect boris for not being afraid to be posh - he is fiercely intelligent to such an extent that apparently he rarely prepares anything as he knows he'll muddle through and it seems to work for him, this may give opponents cause for alarm and point out his failings, but his charm and humour rarely fail to win over an audience :y

BJ for PM? ;D ;D



Clarification required.......is BJ....Boris Johnson ...or Bannjaxx?. ;D ;D ;D ;)
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i'm not saying its fine and nothing should be done - i'm saying there are far bigger frauds in the city than some guy scamming a few extra thousand - but it is an easy target something DC has never shied away from.....

incidentally i watched the entertaining "when dave met boris" last night on more4, as well as dramatising certain events at Eton and Oxford it interviewed friends, family and classmates for insight - very enlightening - worth catching it if you can......i had no idea boris and dave were such rivals - might be interesting  :y


Whoever forms the next administration - and I'm sceptical about DC's ability to be a true force for realistic change - the political reality will demand some extraordinary measures to address the current malaise, and by extension, cause discomfort to us all. 

Should that strength and desire be absent in the new administration then this country is finished. 

Boris enjoys being considered a buffoon – he is far from it - only those who base their judgement upon these superficial facets will fail to see the true depth and clarity contained within this apparently flawed diamond. 

i think i said earlier that i respect boris for not being afraid to be posh - he is fiercely intelligent to such an extent that apparently he rarely prepares anything as he knows he'll muddle through and it seems to work for him, this may give opponents cause for alarm and point out his failings, but his charm and humour rarely fail to win over an audience :y

BJ for PM? ;D ;D



Clarification required.......is BJ....Boris Johnson ...or Bannjaxx?. ;D ;D ;D ;)

or both?  ::)
Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 08 October 2009, 14:17:43
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Zulu.............Thank you for your clarification...........regarding the "intellectual colossus".....Boris Johnson. ::) ::)
As a mere grammar school boy.....of lowly birth..and low I.Q.....it is inconceivable.....that I could possibly understand the greatness of such a man. ::) ::)
However....... as an illiterate member of the great unwashed proleteriat. :'( :'( :'(......I tend to think of Boris ...as A likeable  endearing cretin....who offers great entertainment value. ;) ;) ;) ;)





I'm glad that my comments have been useful to you Optio :y :y - can we expect your return to the true path sooner rather than later then? ;D ;D :y


"intellectual colossus"


......I'm sure that Mr Johnson will be gratified to have such a generous admirer ;) ;)


As a mere grammar school boy.....of lowly birth..and low I.Q

...do you protest a tad too much? ;D ;D


as an illiterate member of the great unwashed proleteriat. :'( :'( :'(......I tend to think of Boris ...as A likeable  endearing cretin....who offers great entertainment

....you shouldn't keep denigrating yourself like this Optio as it seems responsible for your failing to read the man with any degree of objectivity :-/ :-/
Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: albitz on 08 October 2009, 19:20:52
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All this fuss and fighting, I don't really do politics and certainly not a local level, in that  vote on policies and evidence.

I am simply waiting for GB to be replaced then we can all watch as Labour get reelected, after all there is no one else up to the Job. And I speak as a past conservative voter. 
I have noticed that even the tory's are going to hit the working man for the worlds financial difficulties caused by the bankers, none of whom are going to be worrying about how to pay for Christmas. GB did not cause the recession.And no, I am not one of those left wing lentil munchers of the PC brigade, we hear described on here, which incidentally, went down brilliantly in the office... :y :y

Just a few thoughts. ::) ::)
Sorry Vamps but this simply isnt true.many tens of thousands of people in the banking industry were the first to lose their jobs when the meltdown started.Therse werent multi millionare masters of the universe (they do ok whatever happens) but people on 5 figure salaries who had nothing to do with the policies and decisions which helped crate the problem.
The architect of banking regulations which were a very large contributory factor in the problems was a certain G Brown.He was so desperate to be the 1st Liebore chancellor to ingratiate himself with the City that he tore up the rule book when he became Chancellor, and even when he was advised that this waas storing up trouble for the future he wouldnt listen.He told us all that he had dispensed with boom and bust,he had created the land of milk and honey and no-one need worrry about anything ever again.
I would like to see him strung up on a lampost on Threadneedle street for what he did to the economy of this country. >:(
Title: Re: George Gideon Osborne
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 08 October 2009, 19:34:30
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All this fuss and fighting, I don't really do politics and certainly not a local level, in that  vote on policies and evidence.

I am simply waiting for GB to be replaced then we can all watch as Labour get reelected, after all there is no one else up to the Job. And I speak as a past conservative voter. 
I have noticed that even the tory's are going to hit the working man for the worlds financial difficulties caused by the bankers, none of whom are going to be worrying about how to pay for Christmas. GB did not cause the recession.And no, I am not one of those left wing lentil munchers of the PC brigade, we hear described on here, which incidentally, went down brilliantly in the office... :y :y

Just a few thoughts. ::) ::)
Sorry Vamps but this simply isnt true.many tens of thousands of people in the banking industry were the first to lose their jobs when the meltdown started.Therse werent multi millionare masters of the universe (they do ok whatever happens) but people on 5 figure salaries who had nothing to do with the policies and decisions which helped crate the problem.
The architect of banking regulations which were a very large contributory factor in the problems was a certain G Brown.He was so desperate to be the 1st Liebore chancellor to ingratiate himself with the City that he tore up the rule book when he became Chancellor, and even when he was advised that this waas storing up trouble for the future he wouldnt listen.He told us all that he had dispensed with boom and bust,he had created the land of milk and honey and no-one need worrry about anything ever again.
I would like to see him strung up on a lampost on Threadneedle street for what he did to the economy of this country. >:(


Absolutely spot on Albs! :y :y :y :y :y :y :y :y :y :y