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Title: just ordered some night breaker bulbs
Post by: tunnie on 12 October 2009, 20:27:05
Hoping they will be an improvement on the Philips Vision 50+ i have in there at the moment. They are a couple of years old, so new ones might help anyway.
Title: Re: just ordered some night breaker bulbs
Post by: Martin_1962 on 12 October 2009, 20:30:11
I fitted a HID conversion - best mod of the lot :y :y
Title: Re: just ordered some night breaker bulbs
Post by: KillerWatt on 12 October 2009, 21:26:11
The lamp on it's own is responsible (at best) for about 20% of the story.
Title: Re: just ordered some night breaker bulbs
Post by: tunnie on 13 October 2009, 09:30:37
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I fitted a HID conversion - best mod of the lot :y :y

Did you fit the washers as well? - From your photos i can't see them, so do you notice much loss in light on a long motorway run when the lens gets dirty?

I think HID is the route too, but at a tenner its worth a go for these first.
Title: Re: just ordered some night breaker bulbs
Post by: Kevin Wood on 13 October 2009, 09:41:14
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I think HID is the route too, but at a tenner its worth a go for these first.

Never driven a non-HID Omega but Mrs. KW's MX5 and my Westfield both have really sh1te headlights and, TBH, I don't find the Omega significantly better. Is it worth the hassle of retro-fitting them?

Kevin
Title: Re: just ordered some night breaker bulbs
Post by: tunnie on 13 October 2009, 10:11:56
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I think HID is the route too, but at a tenner its worth a go for these first.

Never driven a non-HID Omega but Mrs. KW's MX5 and my Westfield both have really sh1te headlights and, TBH, I don't find the Omega significantly better. Is it worth the hassle of retro-fitting them?

Kevin

I find the projectors fine in country lanes, the light output is good. Where it seems pathetic is on the motorway, its like having 2 candles sometimes. Although i did notice the amount of road i could see did depend on the type of tarmac  :-?

Some sections i could see sod all output, others the light seemed to be better! Very odd.

But once the clocks go back, i will only be driving in night, so it could be a worth while mod.
Title: Re: just ordered some night breaker bulbs
Post by: Kevin Wood on 13 October 2009, 12:03:40
The problem with HIDs, IMHO, is that the dipped beam cutoff is set quite low (on my car, anyway, perhaps it's in need of a tweak) and there is no light leakage above the beam cutoff whereas with a conventional headlight you do get some illumination above the beam cutoff. IYSWIM

So, you can see great for about 10m in front of the car and then nothing. Or perhaps I'm driving too fast? :-X

Kevin
Title: Re: just ordered some night breaker bulbs
Post by: Andy B on 13 October 2009, 12:11:19
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 Or perhaps I'm driving too fast? :-X

Kevin

Is that possible?  :-/  :-/  ;)  ;)  :y
Title: Re: just ordered some night breaker bulbs
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 13 October 2009, 12:37:33
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The problem with HIDs, IMHO, is that the dipped beam cutoff is set quite low (on my car, anyway, perhaps it's in need of a tweak) and there is no light leakage above the beam cutoff whereas with a conventional headlight you do get some illumination above the beam cutoff. IYSWIM

So, you can see great for about 10m in front of the car and then nothing. Or perhaps I'm driving too fast? :-X

Kevin


Totally agree.

I used to get pi$$ed off when Audi TT's lights used to light the road up further than my GLS with projectors fitted.

Then when I got the Elite the TT's lights still shine further on the road.

The beam pattern is perfect, just doesnt light up enough distance.
Title: Re: just ordered some night breaker bulbs
Post by: Kevin Wood on 13 October 2009, 12:39:35
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 Or perhaps I'm driving too fast? :-X

Kevin

Is that possible?  :-/  :-/  ;)  ;)  :y

I suppose it would be if you had too much power.... But hang on! That's not possible either. ::)

Kevin
Title: Re: just ordered some night breaker bulbs
Post by: Andy B on 13 October 2009, 12:48:23
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 Or perhaps I'm driving too fast? :-X

Kevin

Is that possible?  :-/  :-/  ;)  ;)  :y

I suppose it would be if you had too much power.... But hang on! That's not possible either. ::)

Kevin

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: just ordered some night breaker bulbs
Post by: yatesDELTA on 13 October 2009, 14:21:08
my old omega (select, even worse than GLS, and one of the first ones) has extremely poor lights, i was considering 'upgrading' to projector.
by comparison current lights are awesome, and i mostly in dark doing night shift so tis quite usefull.
Title: Re: just ordered some night breaker bulbs
Post by: Martin_1962 on 13 October 2009, 17:50:29
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I fitted a HID conversion - best mod of the lot :y :y

Did you fit the washers as well? - From your photos i can't see them, so do you notice much loss in light on a long motorway run when the lens gets dirty?

I think HID is the route too, but at a tenner its worth a go for these first.


No washers, but I also haven't done any long nighttime trips
Title: Re: just ordered some night breaker bulbs
Post by: VXL V6 on 13 October 2009, 19:08:21
Nightbreakers (Main Beam) do seem do give the impression of a brighter light over the OEM bulbs, they also seem to have a better colour match to the standard 4300K HID dipped beam.

Had them in my last Omega and been meaning to fit a set to this one, when is payday again?  ::)
Title: Re: just ordered some night breaker bulbs
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 13 October 2009, 19:18:01
mine 6K , dont have washers but never feel the need to stop the car and clean them in a rainy night..

and I must note that on the return of summer vacation we passed through a real storm with miggy and even if I feel the need to clean them it was impossible to go outside ;D
Title: Re: just ordered some night breaker bulbs
Post by: TheBoy on 13 October 2009, 20:40:57
There are 2 reasons for washers

1) HIDs do seem adversely affected by even small amounts of grim
2) Legal requirement to stop glare to oncoming drivers when lenses dirty


To be honest, no Omega headlight is fantastic - something Vauxhall have never been good at