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Title: How Big Is Your
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 18 October 2009, 05:14:47

Hard Drive Boot Partition/Drive


I have a 25GB partition on a 500Gb drive and my Windows/system is using 7.96gb of this.

For a while I have been looking at SSD as a boot drive.

http://www.ebuyer.com/search?limit=50&store=2&cat=4&subcat=2309&sort=pricelow&page=1

This mentions 128 MB cache with 32GB
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173125

This is 64GB with 64Mb cache
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/169566
100% more capacity
63% more exspensive
50% less cache


Would you change to SSD, if so which drive.

Akk the drive reviews seem to indicate it being worth while.

TIA.   :y

Title: Re: How Big Is Your
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 18 October 2009, 09:15:48

 ;D

the heading reminds different things ;D

being lazy ,I generally dont partition big drives (if you want to save space, also you need to change the default cluster size).. another reason is : all softwares you install have the default drive as C: and you need to change the path everytime .. :-/

but SSD drives are worth the effort..will effect the performance seriously.. :y

Title: Re: How Big Is Your
Post by: Plomien on 18 October 2009, 09:18:14

SSD are supposedly less prone to failure.
If I was going to get one it would depend on budget, but largest cache size and transfer rates compared to size of drive :y

Title: Re: How Big Is Your
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 18 October 2009, 11:26:41

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;D

the heading reminds different things ;D

being lazy ,I generally dont partition big drives (if you want to save space, also you need to change the default cluster size).. another reason is : all softwares you install have the default drive as C: and you need to change the path everytime .. :-/

but SSD drives are worth the effort..will effect the performance seriously.. :y

I realised I never need a drive above 10/15GB for what Install, I often used to install all the big programs on a 2nd drive/partition like office and autoroute plus my games etc

Of the drives listed only 2 of them show cache sizes boith of which are far higher than the current 1TB with 32mb cache that I buy at the moment.

My other option rather than 64GB/64Mb/£163 is to go for 2 x 32GB/128MB/£100 and raid the boot drive, but I dont know what the pluses/minus are as I have nevr tried a raid boot system.

Also my typical install sizes mantioned are based on XP Pro, I will probably be upgrading to Vista and have no idea on space/systems/programs space required.

I would buy one drive at a time and compare performance, I dont have a problem with the cost of 2 @ £163 but would be happier if they were cheaper.  ;D

May it may be worth getting one of each and doing speed tests to compare.  But AFAIK I cant raid 2 different drives (or can I)

Title: Re: How Big Is Your
Post by: Jimbob on 18 October 2009, 11:28:11

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;D

the heading reminds different things ;D

being lazy ,I generally dont partition big drives (if you want to save space, also you need to change the default cluster size).. another reason is : all softwares you install have the default drive as C: and you need to change the path everytime .. :-/

but SSD drives are worth the effort..will effect the performance seriously.. :y

I realised I never need a drive above 10/15GB for what Install, I often used to install all the big programs on a 2nd drive/partition like office and autoroute plus my games etc

Of the drives listed only 2 of them show cache sizes boith of which are far higher than the current 1TB with 32mb cache that I buy at the moment.

My other option rather than 64GB/64Mb/£163 is to go for 2 x 32GB/128MB/£100 and raid the boot drive, but I dont know what the pluses/minus are as I have nevr tried a raid boot system.

Also my typical install sizes mantioned are based on XP Pro, I will probably be upgrading to Vista and have no idea on space/systems/programs space required.

I would buy one drive at a time and compare performance, I dont have a problem with the cost of 2 @ £163 but would be happier if they were cheaper.  ;D

May it may be worth getting one of each and doing speed tests to compare.  But AFAIK I cant raid 2 different drives (or can I)

depends on your hardware....JBOD (jumbled bunch of disks) is the option you want

Title: Re: How Big Is Your
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 18 October 2009, 12:06:07

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depends on your hardware....JBOD (jumbled bunch of disks) is the option you want

Does that class them as one drive letter? 

Title: Re: How Big Is Your
Post by: KillerWatt on 18 October 2009, 17:52:11

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But AFAIK I cant raid 2 different drives (or can I)

Yes you can, but it will use the smallest capacity drive as the target figure to work from.
For example, throwing a 200GB and 400GB drive together in RAID 0 will result in a single drive of 400GB capacity being seen.

Title: Re: How Big Is Your
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 18 October 2009, 17:53:19

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But AFAIK I cant raid 2 different drives (or can I)

Yes you can, but it will use the smallest capacity drive as the target figure to work from.
For example, throwing a 200GB and 400GB drive together in RAID 0 will result in a single drive of 400GB capacity being seen.

 :y :y

Title: Re: How Big Is Your
Post by: BigAl on 18 October 2009, 18:24:19

if you want SSD, it's got to be http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/11993139/OCZ-OCZSSDPCIE-ZDP841T-Z-Drive-P84-1TB-PCI-Express-SSD-Solid-State-Internal-Hard-Drive/Product.html ;)

Title: Re: How Big Is Your
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 18 October 2009, 18:43:11

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if you want SSD, it's got to be http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/11993139/OCZ-OCZSSDPCIE-ZDP841T-Z-Drive-P84-1TB-PCI-Express-SSD-Solid-State-Internal-Hard-Drive/Product.html ;)

I would have ordered 2 of thos but they dont have them in stock.   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: How Big Is Your
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 18 October 2009, 18:45:13

practically as a rule the drives you will use in raid must be exactly the same, same size, same transfer rate, same rpm and latency , same cache size and even must have the same brand..any small difference will confuse the controller and it will slow down or post errors..and the op.system will take the related disk array off line..In the past tried many configurations and witnessed that even a different brand same capacity and similiar property disk causes errors..

Title: Re: How Big Is Your
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 18 October 2009, 18:48:56

and I must add also for raid arrays even for raid 0 level controller is more important than disks..  it must be battery backed up and must have significant amount of memory.. nowadays mostly used on board raid controllers are cheapo and not at the desired  level of handling many disks.. so I recommend a seperate controller card for raid.. :y

ps : upto now havent seen an raid controller card working on ssds..

Title: Re: How Big Is Your
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 18 October 2009, 18:55:03

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and I must add also for raid arrays even for raid 0 level controller is more important than disks..  it must be battery backed up and must have significant amount of memory.. nowadays mostly used on board raid controllers are cheapo and not at the desired  level of handling many disks.. so I recommend a seperate controller card for raid.. :y

ps : upto now havent seen an raid controller card working on ssds..

Was looking at Adaptec raid cards a while ago.

Title: Re: How Big Is Your
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 18 October 2009, 18:55:57

Here you go Cem  (Debs posted it a while back - But worth watching again)

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96dWOEa4Djs[/media]

Title: Re: How Big Is Your
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 18 October 2009, 19:02:58

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Here you go Cem  (Debs posted it a while back - But worth watching again)

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96dWOEa4Djs[/media]

yup..watched that..costly experiment :y