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Title: After our money - again
Post by: dbug on 22 October 2009, 20:58:26
I know that these government petitions can be a waste of space but no action means apathy rules ok!!  You should look at this link

 http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=20842
 
The Government are after our money again even if we are found not guilty.

If you feel strongly about this wonderful piece of proposed legislation
go to the petition and sign it, then pass the link on to all your like minded friends.

Title: Re: After our money - again
Post by: albitz on 22 October 2009, 21:03:42
Tories will probably cancel it next year.It is completely out -rather- rageous though,shows them up (yet again) for what they are. >:( >:(
Title: Re: After our money - again
Post by: Richie London on 22 October 2009, 21:07:53
signed  :y
Title: Re: After our money - again
Post by: waspy on 22 October 2009, 21:24:27
Signed, though i SHOULDN'T HAVE TO >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: After our money - again
Post by: KillerWatt on 22 October 2009, 21:37:20
Almost 2 million signed the road pricing petition, and the government still openly admitted they had no intention of taking any notice....so why should this be any different?

Simple fact is, it's gonna take a tad more than some bull*hit petition to get those in power to take notice.
The only problem with that is, anyone who does have the gonads for it has already been nicked & imprisoned for putting their bin out on the wrong day.
Title: Re: After our money - again
Post by: unlucky alf on 22 October 2009, 22:24:33
ive tried to sign it but havent got the confirmation email & ive done it twice, are they sulking ? :'( :'(
Title: Re: After our money - again
Post by: ballcock50 on 22 October 2009, 22:31:47
Signed. Motorists are considered to be a soft target
Title: Re: After our money - again
Post by: Andy B on 22 October 2009, 22:36:38
Although I have already signed it, I believe the Pistonheads site is a little economical with the truth. I believe that is actually being proposed is that you will only have costs paid upto what you would recieve if Legal Aid was paying for you ie you can't hire somebody like Nick Loophole on £££££££££££'s an hour & then expect the tax man to pick up his bill.  ;)
Title: Re: After our money - again
Post by: KillerWatt on 22 October 2009, 22:44:31
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Although I have already signed it, I believe the Pistonheads site is a little economical with the truth. I believe that is actually being proposed is that you will only have costs paid upto what you would recieve if Legal Aid was paying for you ie you can't hire somebody like Nick Loophole on £££££££££££'s an hour & then expect the tax man to pick up his bill.  ;)
The likes of Nick Freeman don't do legal aid, but assuming they did.....why shouldn't you have the best team you can find?

If the state wants your ass in court, then it's only right & proper they do the job correctly to start with.
Title: Re: After our money - again
Post by: Turk on 22 October 2009, 22:49:59
If found not guilty, that would mean the driver has been wrongly accused, so what's to stop a private prosecution being brought against the officer for any loss/costs incurred as a result of the officers actions ? 
Title: Re: After our money - again
Post by: Agemo on 22 October 2009, 22:56:51
Signed, probably a waste of time - BUT you have to be in it to win it.
Title: Re: After our money - again
Post by: Turk on 22 October 2009, 23:43:14
Signed  :y
Title: Re: After our money - again
Post by: unlucky alf on 23 October 2009, 00:21:38
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ive tried to sign it but havent got the confirmation email & ive done it twice, are they sulking ? :'( :'(
& i still havent got my confirmation email, :o >:(
Title: Re: After our money - again
Post by: mantahatch on 23 October 2009, 11:00:17
I have reservations about this, if myself or the average person is nicked for speeding then 99.9% gauranteed we where speeding.

I suspect this will only serve those in a position to fight the case in the first place, crooked MP's and the like.

So I have decided not to support this one I am afraid.
If I am wrong please fell free to point out where I have gone wrong, politly please.
Title: Re: After our money - again
Post by: largespeakers on 23 October 2009, 12:10:37
Yet another stealth tax by this government
Title: Re: After our money - again
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 23 October 2009, 13:46:23
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I have reservations about this, if myself or the average person is nicked for speeding then 99.9% gauranteed we where speeding.

I suspect this will only serve those in a position to fight the case in the first place, crooked MP's and the like.

So I have decided not to support this one I am afraid.
If I am wrong please fell free to point out where I have gone wrong, politly please.


....agreed in part Manta however the proposals as indicated must breach the rules of natural justice - at the very least - as the quality standard for detection will not be raised to ensure that only those truly in breach of the rules are prosecuted.

If adopted these, and similar rules, will provide the state with almost limitless revenue raising potential.

In short, it is another revenue raising measure that disregards the right and expectation of each and every one of us to receive fair play from the state.
Title: Re: After our money - again
Post by: mantahatch on 23 October 2009, 21:01:54
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I have reservations about this, if myself or the average person is nicked for speeding then 99.9% gauranteed we where speeding.

I suspect this will only serve those in a position to fight the case in the first place, crooked MP's and the like.

So I have decided not to support this one I am afraid.
If I am wrong please fell free to point out where I have gone wrong, politly please.


....agreed in part Manta however the proposals as indicated must breach the rules of natural justice - at the very least - as the quality standard for detection will not be raised to ensure that only those truly in breach of the rules are prosecuted.

If adopted these, and similar rules, will provide the state with almost limitless revenue raising potential.

In short, it is another revenue raising measure that disregards the right and expectation of each and every one of us to receive fair play from the state.

Thank you for explaining it to me so I can understand it Zulu.
Would almost seem part of the slippery slope we are on.
Title: Re: After our money - again
Post by: PhilRich on 23 October 2009, 23:06:41
Me & the Wife have signed this. When I was growing up I was told by all & sundry that this was the best country in the world, the British were all about fair play & Democracy, innocent until proven guilty etc etc etc. As the years have flown by, I have become more and more despondent as my eyes have been opened to the injustices and petty regulation thrust upon the populace by one inept and corrupt Government after another. I have reached the point where I am genuinely frightened for my Childrens and Grandchildrens future, as there doesn't seem to be any alternative Party or Individuals with the  real interests of us the people at heart. We are slowly but surely becoming a sequel to George Orwell's 1984! :(
Title: Re: After our money - again
Post by: Pete Elite on 24 October 2009, 02:58:58
Signed, And god help us all because this Government certainly won't :(.
Title: Re: After our money - again
Post by: Ken T on 24 October 2009, 22:07:25
Signed, and there's a lot of poeple signing it, over 500 in a minute.

Ken