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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Del Boy on 29 October 2009, 22:14:49
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What are the rules on driving an un-taxed car? Got the Saab today with no tax (had it bought back on a low loader of course and never drove it around to see what it was like at all ::)) Anyway it's in the garage now so no-one can pick it up but what are the rules on un-taxed cars, had a look on the DVLA website and it said it still has tax so was thinking it's probably been sent off so they get the money back. Obviously going to get it taxed but what would happen if I were to drive it around wth no tax, it's got MOT til june next year and swapped insurance over today so thats all in order.
TIA.
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Driving with no tax is a civil offence, so the worst the old bill can do is to tell you they will report you to the council who's road you get stopped on.
However, if you get caught in one of the gestapo's DVLA's organised tax stings, they can snatch the car unless you fork out (there & then) for the on the spot fine and a tax disc.
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Driving with no tax is a civil offence, so the worst the old bill can do is to tell you they will report you to the council who's road you get stopped on.
However, if you get caught in one of the gestapo's DVLA's organised tax stings, they can snatch the car unless you fork out (there & then) for the on the spot fine and a tax disc.
What would the council do any ideas? I intend to try and avoid the local road checks they do one about quarter of a mile up the road so will keep an eye out up there.
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I recently (June) bought an Omega from 100 miles away from home with no tax but some MOT, so before collecting the car called the DVLA to ask about the situation.
I pre-booked an MOT close to where I lived which meant that I could legally drive the car to the test as long as it was insured - which it was.
So, I simply drove it home and then rung up and cancelled the MOT as the car was then safely in my garage.
If you do this then check that you have a printout of the test booking is case you are stopped by the Police.
HTH
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Utterly plain and simple - no tax disc displayed = offence (not sure if criminal or civil).
Additionally, that dates on the disc have to be valid (eg, you can get on starting 1st dec tomorrow, but its not valid until 1st dec).
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Utterly plain and simple - no tax disc displayed = offence (not sure if criminal or civil).
Additionally, that dates on the disc have to be valid (eg, you can get on starting 1st dec tomorrow, but its not valid until 1st dec).
Will get it but have to wait until the insurance paper work is through this car has to go within 6 months though tax is £222.75 for 6 months :'(
Additionally don't want to get caught and have it taken into a compund, so may just leave it tucked up where it is :-/
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Utterly plain and simple - no tax disc displayed = offence (not sure if criminal or civil).
Failure to display is civil, as is no VED itself.
VED is a tax/duty imposed by the local council upon users of motorised vehicles.
Failure to pay said tax/duty for use of roads is just the same as failing to pay a builder for working on your house.
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Also if caught you will have to pay back duty to when it was last covered, not sure how that works with a new owner though.
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Also if caught you will have to pay back duty to when it was last covered, not sure how that works with a new owner though.
Demand for back duty isn't automatic, in fact it is rarely enforced.
As to a new owner if the back duty card is played, simple really....prove the day you bought it and you pay from that day.
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Also if caught you will have to pay back duty to when it was last covered, not sure how that works with a new owner though.
Thats what I wasn't sure of having only bought the car today, have recipt of sale and everything saying it was bought today but don't know how that would go down with the law :-/
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Also if caught you will have to pay back duty to when it was last covered, not sure how that works with a new owner though.
Thats what I wasn't sure of having only bought the car today, have recipt of sale and everything saying it was bought today but don't know how that would go down with the law :-/
Either way, is it worth testing the law, as you are knowingly driving a non legal motor vechicle.
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Also if caught you will have to pay back duty to when it was last covered, not sure how that works with a new owner though.
Thats what I wasn't sure of having only bought the car today, have recipt of sale and everything saying it was bought today but don't know how that would go down with the law :-/
Either way, is it worth testing the law, as you are knowingly driving a non legal motor vechicle.
Not really but I can't wait to get it out properly but thats no excuse either really, lets hope the RM strike doesn't make my insurance docs take a long time ;D
I was reading you have 5 days if you order online but you have to show your old Tax disc which I obviously don't have :(
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Also if caught you will have to pay back duty to when it was last covered, not sure how that works with a new owner though.
Thats what I wasn't sure of having only bought the car today, have recipt of sale and everything saying it was bought today but don't know how that would go down with the law :-/
Either way, is it worth testing the law, as you are knowingly driving a non legal motor vechicle.
If caught today, you explain you just bought it and tax it from 1st of this month.
Only offence committed (in actual law) is "failure to display" (your car CANNOT be seized for that)...and even then you are only guilty of failure to display if you cannot show good cause.
Buying the car on 29th with intent to tax immediately is considered good cause, although you would need to prove by actually getting a tax disc that is backdated to the beginning of the month to cover the time you drove it on the road.
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Also if caught you will have to pay back duty to when it was last covered, not sure how that works with a new owner though.
Thats what I wasn't sure of having only bought the car today, have recipt of sale and everything saying it was bought today but don't know how that would go down with the law :-/
Either way, is it worth testing the law, as you are knowingly driving a non legal motor vechicle.
If caught today, you explain you just bought it and tax it from 1st of this month.
Only offence committed (in actual law) is "failure to display" (your car CANNOT be seized for that)...and even then you are only guilty of failure to display if you cannot show good cause.
Buying the car on 29th with intent to tax immediately is considered good cause, although you would need to prove by actually getting a tax disc that is backdated to the beginning of the month to cover the time you drove it on the road.
That makes sense cheers KW and everyone else :y
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If you travel untaxed, no matter how carfull you are, if you get clocked bt ANPR equiped Plod then you are paying a fine and back duty, even if only to the 1st of Oct.
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If you travel untaxed, no matter how carfull you are, if you get clocked bt ANPR equiped Plod then you are paying a fine and back duty, even if only to the 1st of Oct.
They won't catch me :y :y
Will probably leave it in the garage until I can get some rent sorted :)
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If its off the road and untaxed then you have to register it as such-cant remember the correct terminology.
eddie
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If its off the road and untaxed then you have to register it as such-cant remember the correct terminology.
eddie
SORN ;)
But in this case, it takes as long to sorn as it does to tax. LSG - ring the dept, they'll tell you best option for quick taxing (prolly worth taxing from 1st nov, rather than 1st Oct)
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If its off the road and untaxed then you have to register it as such-cant remember the correct terminology.
eddie
SORN ;)
But in this case, it takes as long to sorn as it does to tax. LSG - ring the dept, they'll tell you best option for quick taxing (prolly worth taxing from 1st nov, rather than 1st Oct)
Yep rang them earlier got possibly the most annoying person to talk too didn't seem to want to help at all, said: "Should've got it taxed before you bought it and just leave it in the garage is there anything else I can help you with or not" so it stayed tucked up (well aprt from it's cleaning time) today and with RM going on strike again tomorrow doesn't look like my insurance docs will be here either >:(
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Just out of interest, if seller sells a car on the 15th of the month with no tax on the car, but the cars is taxed for say 6 months and he is sending the tax disc back for a refund. As they only refund for full months remaining, then is the car officially taxed till the 31st of the month ? although I agree the offence of not displaying the disc is still valid, surely the car is still taxed for the road.
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Just out of interest, if seller sells a car on the 15th of the month with no tax on the car, but the cars is taxed for say 6 months and he is sending the tax disc back for a refund. As they only refund for full months remaining, then is the car officially taxed till the 31st of the month ? although I agree the offence of not displaying the disc is still valid, surely the car is still taxed for the road.
It comes up on DVLA website as not due it says:
Vehicle Status: Licence Not Due.
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Sadly this does come up:
6 Months Rate £222.75
12 Months Rate £405.00
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Sadly this does come up:
6 Months Rate £222.75
12 Months Rate £405.00
Ouch, that will certainly hit second hand values when these cars get a few years older.
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Sadly this does come up:
6 Months Rate £222.75
12 Months Rate £405.00
Ouch, that will certainly hit second hand values when these cars get a few years older.
I'll get the 6 months tax, then it's going to be kept and had fun in for about a month, then sold, can't afford that tax bill. All the others are going for at the very least with this spec £2500 more than I paid for it, so it's thumbs up on that front :y