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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: ENFIELD_MV6 on 24 October 2009, 18:38:26
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has anybody got this ????is it any good???? any better than vista as i am just about to buy a new laptop and dont know wether to go for it or not ??????
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running it as a media server down stairs (Ultimate Version), i like it.
Its what Vista should have been in my view, its much less resouce hungry. It runs well on old hardware, and so far had no issues with old devices running on it. (old USB WiFi stick worked in seconds)
So far its been quite reliable and fast :y
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Good reports from what I have read on the forum.
I was peeved with myself for not downloading the Beta Trial of W7. Never seen it or Vusta in action but would rather try before I buy.
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cool i think a new lappy with 7 will be with me in 10 days then lol 17" toshiba me thinks so i can see the forum bigger and better
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cool i think a new lappy with 7 will be with me in 10 days then lol 17" toshiba me thinks so i can see the forum bigger and better
Nice one, I like the Tosh lappy's I have had in the past, will be nice with a 17" screen. :y :y
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nah stuff it 3 weeks for delivery having a giraffe, gone for a toshy 17" wit vista :-[ :'(
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has anybody got this ????
Yes
is it any good????
Depends on your definition of "any good" really, but it does everything I need.
any better than vista
There aren't enough free characters left in this text box to list how much more it pisses all over Vista.
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Agreed all above..
I installed ultimate version.. (dont know what others are) .. but works perfect, installed without any problem.. and have many extras.. :y
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has steven hawkins upgraded, he sounds a bit gay now.
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Just been helping my dad install his ADSL connection on it but no joy as PIPEX don't support USB modems on win 7 so at last he will ditch them and get free internet with sky with a wireless connection!!
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Just been helping my dad install his ADSL connection on it but no joy as PIPEX don't support USB modems on win 7 so at last he will ditch them and get free internet with sky with a wireless connection!!
so you mean win 7 is not ok.. :-? :-?
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Just been helping my dad install his ADSL connection on it but no joy as PIPEX don't support USB modems on win 7 so at last he will ditch them and get free internet with sky with a wireless connection!!
so you mean win 7 is not ok.. :-? :-?
What do Pipex have to do with that?
Get yourself an ADSL wireless router (£30-£40) plug that in, setup the configuration in the web interface, job done!
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Hi purchased home premium and loaded it onto a 1 year old sony vaio, installed fine but after approx 10 mins a diag box kept popping up stating that the battery was not installed correctly and shutting the laptop down, it is installed correctly and was running on mains, could not resolve problem so has been removed and currently on vista again.
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Hi purchased home premium and loaded it onto a 1 year old sony vaio, installed fine but after approx 10 mins a diag box kept popping up stating that the battery was not installed correctly and shutting the laptop down, it is installed correctly and was running on mains, could not resolve problem so has been removed and currently on vista again.
http://www.sevenforums.com/hardware-devices/11679-battery-problem.html
and another
"Uninstall the sony vaio battery checker utility or disable isbmgr.exe from running at startup with msconfig (click start->run and type msconfig"
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Just been helping my dad install his ADSL connection on it but no joy as PIPEX don't support USB modems on win 7 so at last he will ditch them and get free internet with sky with a wireless connection!!
so you mean win 7 is not ok.. :-? :-?
What do Pipex have to do with that?
Get yourself an ADSL wireless router (£30-£40) plug that in, setup the configuration in the web interface, job done!
They supplied the original modem and aren't offering support on win 7 for them but still support xp and vista. I am alright though as I am on cable. (but have been nagging my dad to get a adsl wireless for ages) :y
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Just been helping my dad install his ADSL connection on it but no joy as PIPEX don't support USB modems on win 7 so at last he will ditch them and get free internet with sky with a wireless connection!!
so you mean win 7 is not ok.. :-? :-?
Its fine other than that just hasn't been fully tested as no net connection at present :y
I was using a beta version and found it really good and will be upgrading my xp machine once funds allow
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Just been helping my dad install his ADSL connection on it but no joy as PIPEX don't support USB modems on win 7 so at last he will ditch them and get free internet with sky with a wireless connection!!
so you mean win 7 is not ok.. :-? :-?
What do Pipex have to do with that?
Get yourself an ADSL wireless router (£30-£40) plug that in, setup the configuration in the web interface, job done!
They supplied the original modem and aren't offering support on win 7 for them but still support xp and vista. I am alright though as I am on cable. (but have been nagging my dad to get a adsl wireless for ages) :y
I didn't think anybody used those crappy USB modems any more, but if you had it working under Vista then there is no reason that it should not work under 7 using the Vista driver.
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Just been helping my dad install his ADSL connection on it but no joy as PIPEX don't support USB modems on win 7 so at last he will ditch them and get free internet with sky with a wireless connection!!
so you mean win 7 is not ok.. :-? :-?
What do Pipex have to do with that?
Get yourself an ADSL wireless router (£30-£40) plug that in, setup the configuration in the web interface, job done!
They supplied the original modem and aren't offering support on win 7 for them but still support xp and vista. I am alright though as I am on cable. (but have been nagging my dad to get a adsl wireless for ages) :y
I didn't think anybody used those crappy USB modems any more, but if you had it working under Vista then there is no reason that it should not work under 7 using the Vista driver.
After all... Windows 7 is actually the re-modelled Vista and how it should have come out if they'd done the research properly. Vista drivers are supposed to work with 7 with no issues at all.
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After all... Windows 7 is actually the re-modelled Vista and how it should have come out if they'd done the research properly.
Absolutely.
Vista was simply "cobbled" together and thrown out the door in order to meet a timeframe.
Sadly, in order to get it out in time, they sent it out very broken.
Vista drivers are supposed to work with 7 with no issues at all.
Agreed.
I've put 7 on two machines here this week (laptop & desktop), and they were more than happy to accept the Vista drivers for everything.
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thanks cem, works fine now all re-installed, very pleased so far :y
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I know sod all about PC's, but this new one has Vista and the printer/scanner has issues with it. the printer works, but the scanner won't. ::) ::) ::)
I dunno if getting Windows 7 would sort that out?
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thanks cem, works fine now all re-installed, very pleased so far :y
good news :y
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I know sod all about PC's, but this new one has Vista and the printer/scanner has issues with it. the printer works, but the scanner won't. ::) ::) ::)
I dunno if getting Windows 7 would sort that out?
That is nothing more than a driver issue.
If the printer/scanner manufacturer doesn't offer Vista drivers (or if the XP driver fails to work), then that is down to the manufacturer of your hardware.
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cool i think a new lappy with 7 will be with me in 10 days then lol 17" toshiba me thinks so i can see the forum bigger and better
Nice one, I like the Tosh lappy's I have had in the past, will be nice with a 17" screen. :y :y
would have to waited 3 weeks for delivery for 17" so gone for a 15.6" versio with windows 7 will be with me in 5 days woo hoo
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Don't use it but some other colleagues from IT are using it and they only have good opinions about it.
All of them agree that Vista was cr.. and this is great.
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A few comments...
If you have used Vista, the chances are you will think Win7 is great - you've already had the pain of learning where stuff is, and hopefully cottoned on to the new way of working (ie, pressing Windows on keyboard and typing CV to update you cv document etc). You've already come across UAC, and hopefully understand its benefits, and also know you should NEVER disable it (if you do, your ego is bigger than you basic computer knowledge).
If you are coming from XP, having skipped Vista, then you've got a bit of learning to do - a lot of stuff is in different places, and it takes time to learn to automatically use the search box on the start menu. You also need to learn that running as a computer Administrator does not necessarily run you as an admin - one of the best security thing MS has done to Windows, and one thing that catches a lot of XP'ers out.
IMHO, Windows 7 is an improvement on Vista, which itself was a massive improvement on XP (which was always rubbish due to the compromises to get the Win9x line into it (which is why W2K often multitasked so much better), SP2 improved the matter, but look at the uproar that caused as it broke poor apps/drivers).
If we had gone straight from XP to W7, I guess people would hate W7, due to the changes and to UAC. Also, the new driver architecture would mean all the drivers would be immature and not as abundent.
Windows 7 does have excellent driver support - in most cases, if there is no specific Windows 7 driver, a Vista one should suffice. That is not always 100% the case, as some driver manufacturers can't even get simple things right. 64bit still isn't 100% covered on drivers, despite Microsoft's insistance that any WHQL driver has to come in 32 and 64. Older printers seem to be a common one. I had a problem with USB - Serial adapters under Win7 64 (and Vista 64).
Lastly
NEVER EVER EVER upgrade an operating system. ALWAYS rebuild it from scratch.
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Don't use it but some other colleagues from IT are using it and they only have good opinions about it.
All of them agree that Vista was cr.. and this is great.
Vista was a massive improvement (and a massive change) from XP. Windows 7 is an evolution of Vista.
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Don't use it but some other colleagues from IT are using it and they only have good opinions about it.
All of them agree that Vista was cr.. and this is great.
Vista was a massive improvement (and a massive change) from XP. Windows 7 is an evolution of Vista.
In fact it was possible that if Vista hadn't had the bad reputation given in the poor computer mags (who employ the journalists so useless that they can't get other journalist work), Windows 7 may have been called Vista R2 ;)
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i got lost after the first line, i have no idea really bout vista, only use the laptop to surf the net, here, ebay and facebook and thats about it
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i got lost after the first line, i have no idea really bout vista, only use the laptop to surf the net, here, ebay and facebook and thats about it
If thats all - Internet Explorer is Internet Explorer, whether it be XP, Vista or W7 ;)
Obviously the more modern OSes give better user protection
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i really do need to learn more about computers me thinks
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I agree TheBoy it could have been called Vista R2.
But my opinion is that Vista was rubbish.
It could have been good but it turned up to be a product which was simply rushed onto market and proved neither stable , or successful, and of course very resource hungry.
Windows 7 is not a completely new OS but it is based on Vista. They finally decided to use good things from vista and repair the bad ones.
You could say it is a similar story like win98 and win98 SE
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I decided to stop paying voluntary income tax to MS years ago but the number of engineers I have sat next to who have cursed the day they installed Vista is legion.
I will do my best to avoid Win7 as well.
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I agree TheBoy it could have been called Vista R2.
But my opinion is that Vista was rubbish.
It could have been good but it turned up to be a product which was simply rushed onto market and proved neither stable , or successful, and of course very resource hungry.
Windows 7 is not a completely new OS but it is based on Vista. They finally decided to use good things from vista and repair the bad ones.
You could say it is a similar story like win98 and win98 SE
Vista is/was far more stable than its predecessor, XP. Vista was always going to have an uphill struggle, due to a fairly extensively modified architecture. Added to that, people don't like change, and PC 'experts' are the worse - if they can't use something because they cannot be bothered to learn it, it's "crap"
Windows 7 takes EVERYTHING from Vista. It simply tweaks a few things here and there. Its single biggest improvement is to reduce the high resource requirements that Vista needed to run well.
Remember, Windows 7 is that close to Vista (Windows 6.0) that it is actually internally version Windows 6.1 (anyone running windows 7, just type winver). Thats going to cause an awful lot of confusion down the line.
Incidentally, XP was v5.1, showing how close it was to W2K (5.0), just tweaked (and broken) to transision the Win9x to NT more easily). Windows Server 2003 was Win 5.2.
Windows Server 2008 is v6.0 (its basically a serverised Vista), 2008 R2 is 6.1 - a serverised W7.
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I decided to stop paying voluntary income tax to MS years ago but the number of engineers I have sat next to who have cursed the day they installed Vista is legion.
I will do my best to avoid Win7 as well.
For the standard desktop, there is no other option for 90% of people. KDE/Gnome/CDE/Java just aren't usable enough for joe public. And the underlying OS is flawed, but thats a different story for another day.
I keep banging on, but people you said 'vista is crap' with no real justification are simply people who are unable to deal with new things.
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I decided to stop paying voluntary income tax to MS years ago but the number of engineers I have sat next to who have cursed the day they installed Vista is legion.
I will do my best to avoid Win7 as well.
For the standard desktop, there is no other option for 90% of people. KDE/Gnome/CDE/Java just aren't usable enough for joe public. And the underlying OS is flawed, but thats a different story for another day.
I keep banging on, but people you said 'vista is crap' with no real justification are simply people who are unable to deal with new things.
I am confident that you don't know them but they had justification. It was hanging apps left right and centre - and some users were IT Admins.
I hope you don't choke on the MS fish-hook! ;)
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Well this is all very apropos as I'm about to install W7 on my Scaleo E Media Center (desktop version) which is running Vista at the moment.
Having regard to my Neanderthal understanding of operating systems Microsoft products have allowed me to make use of computers in a way that otherwise I would have struggled with by trying to use any other system.
If I’m not back on again by this evening, then something has gone wrong ;D :-/
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Reply #25 was a very helpfull evaluation. Totally agree not to set as Admin on an XP install, learnt that mistake the very 1st week I tried it, not through being smart, but by being naive and thought that was the way to go on the 1st istall, then set up as a user afterwards.
The last few years I have lost track of whats happening software/hard ware wise and when Vista came out I thought I would give it time to settle then build a brand new Vista based machine. Seems I may have done myself a 2 fold favour by waiting.
Up till now I have never used or seen Vista or Windows 7 in action. I take onboard what TB said about taking on new software and saying its naff. I was not eadger to move from Dos/Win 3.11 (Loads Dos based games) to windows 95 at 1st, didnt like it at all. Took a different approach to XP but suffered from driver problems, probably the reason I didnt jump straight to Vista.
So now that I am ready it seems Windows 7 is the way to go. Do I go for the Ultimate Version?
Also what is UAC?
TIA. :y
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I decided to stop paying voluntary income tax to MS years ago but the number of engineers I have sat next to who have cursed the day they installed Vista is legion.
I will do my best to avoid Win7 as well.
For the standard desktop, there is no other option for 90% of people. KDE/Gnome/CDE/Java just aren't usable enough for joe public. And the underlying OS is flawed, but thats a different story for another day.
I keep banging on, but people you said 'vista is crap' with no real justification are simply people who are unable to deal with new things.
I am confident that you don't know them but they had justification. It was hanging apps left right and centre - and some users were IT Admins.
I hope you don't choke on the MS fish-hook! ;)
I rest my case. As I said earlier - many pc 'experts' are the worse, as they are the laziest to relearn techniques. Hanging apps? Which ones. Vista was relatively solid with most apps from same era - admittedly older ones didn't always display properly, or the newer security features in Vista caused them to fail due to not obeying the programming rules that MS have always stated ;) (including some of MS's own older apps ;D)
As to being Mr Gate's whipping boy, professionally I do 3rd line for Solaris, Linux and Windows for a very large IT company. I know the strengths and weaknesses of all 3 quite well - its what I do ;). Lets face it, the only alternative even remotely close to Windows desktop is Mac OSX, and generally, joe public Windows users struggle even with that transition. KDE/Gnome for GNU is a step too far. Obviously, nobody could recommend Sun's offerings for a desktop for mr J Public.
So I always choose what I think is the right product for the job.
Want a large database (not mainframe based), or busy, scalable, workflow managed webserver, I'd pick out the Solaris (or other similar 'proper' Unix route in most cases - unless the technology was tied to another platform, eg .NET).
Want a small webserver utilising unix type technology, but cost more important that reliability - thats Linux's niche (though Sun are really gunning for this as well)
Now for a desktop, 95% of the time, Windows is the best option. Windows 7 is probably the best Windows desktop, followed closely by Vista (if you have the hardware to run it). XP really drags up the rear - its old, was a compromise at launch due to having to scrape and bow to Win9x line, architecturaly insecure against users thinking they are more knowledgable than their abilities imply, and needs to go to the great OS graveyard.
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Reply #25 was a very helpfull evaluation. Totally agree not to set as Admin on an XP install, learnt that mistake the very 1st week I tried it, not through being smart, but by being naive and thought that was the way to go on the 1st istall, then set up as a user afterwards.
The last few years I have lost track of whats happening software/hard ware wise and when Vista came out I thought I would give it time to settle then build a brand new Vista based machine. Seems I may have done myself a 2 fold favour by waiting.
Up till now I have never used or seen Vista or Windows 7 in action. I take onboard what TB said about taking on new software and saying its naff. I was not eadger to move from Dos/Win 3.11 (Loads Dos based games) to windows 95 at 1st, didnt like it at all. Took a different approach to XP but suffered from driver problems, probably the reason I didnt jump straight to Vista.
So now that I am ready it seems Windows 7 is the way to go. Do I go for the Ultimate Version?
Also what is UAC?
TIA. :y
It would appear than running as a restricted user is somehow a slur on the lenght of our manhood, hence, those with egos larger than their ability, have to run as an Administrator (and all the insecurity that produces).
UAC is microsofts attempt to ensure that even those running as an Administrator are, in fact, only running as a restricted user most of the time. When a task that needs Admin rights is performed, a little pop-up asks if this is an intended action. Idea being to stop rogue processes making system changes. This will stop many trojans, hopefully a fair few other nasties. Its also a reminder to a user that they are doing something potentially dangerous to the system.
Its not a complete solution by any means. But its a damn site better than the XP way (ie, if a rogue process gets started by a admin (intentionally or not), it has free reign over the system).
Unix and Linux suffer similar to XP - many people insist on running as root (Unix/Linux equiv of Administrator (only more powerful)) or users with UID of 0 (Unix/Linux equiv of a member of local group Administrators (only more powerful)), and is how most Unix/Linux gets compromised. Like (pre Vista) Windows, Unix/Linux entire security model is based around users and services running within a restricted security context. Break these rules, and, like (pre Vista) Windows, Unix/Linux has no real security. Unix/Linux has no common equiv of UAC, so that makes (Vista onwards) Windows architecurally more secure than the supposed best (security wise) midrange systems. Obviously, Windows popularity means its a bigger target though.
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Well from what I saw (not much but) I would have to agree that Windows 7 is currently the best option.
But hearing the other admins opinions in my company most of them if they had to choose would chose Windows xp 64bit over vista any time.
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Reply #25 was a very helpfull evaluation. Totally agree not to set as Admin on an XP install, learnt that mistake the very 1st week I tried it, not through being smart, but by being naive and thought that was the way to go on the 1st istall, then set up as a user afterwards.
The last few years I have lost track of whats happening software/hard ware wise and when Vista came out I thought I would give it time to settle then build a brand new Vista based machine. Seems I may have done myself a 2 fold favour by waiting.
Up till now I have never used or seen Vista or Windows 7 in action. I take onboard what TB said about taking on new software and saying its naff. I was not eadger to move from Dos/Win 3.11 (Loads Dos based games) to windows 95 at 1st, didnt like it at all. Took a different approach to XP but suffered from driver problems, probably the reason I didnt jump straight to Vista.
So now that I am ready it seems Windows 7 is the way to go. Do I go for the Ultimate Version?
Also what is UAC?
TIA. :y
It would appear than running as a restricted user is somehow a slur on the lenght of our manhood, hence, those with egos larger than their ability, have to run as an Administrator (and all the insecurity that produces).
UAC is microsofts attempt to ensure that even those running as an Administrator are, in fact, only running as a restricted user most of the time. When a task that needs Admin rights is performed, a little pop-up asks if this is an intended action. Idea being to stop rogue processes making system changes. This will stop many trojans, hopefully a fair few other nasties. Its also a reminder to a user that they are doing something potentially dangerous to the system.
Its not a complete solution by any means. But its a damn site better than the XP way (ie, if a rogue process gets started by a admin (intentionally or not), it has free reign over the system).
Unix and Linux suffer similar to XP - many people insist on running as root (Unix/Linux equiv of Administrator (only more powerful)) or users with UID of 0 (Unix/Linux equiv of a member of local group Administrators (only more powerful)), and is how most Unix/Linux gets compromised. Like (pre Vista) Windows, Unix/Linux entire security model is based around users and services running within a restricted security context. Break these rules, and, like (pre Vista) Windows, Unix/Linux has no real security. Unix/Linux has no common equiv of UAC, so that makes (Vista onwards) Windows architecurally more secure than the supposed best (security wise) midrange systems. Obviously, Windows popularity means its a bigger target though.
Linux/Unix manuals have always been littered with warnings not to login as root generally. The reason I have often had to give Admin rights to Windows users is that too many brick-walls got hit with them going about their legitimate business otherwise.
I would argue that MS are playing catch-up in this respect and may have now got close to where they need to be on user authentication and access rights. What has held them back has been their priority of making everyone else incompatible with themselves. It will continue to hold them back as a manufacturer of useful products as there is no sign of them changing their underlying philosophy.
In case people think I have the 'solution'; I am writing this on an XP machine.
I was amused the other day to read in a trade paper that a number of manufacturers of portable machines were looking to run Linux alongside Windoze so that features like MP3 and web browsing could be accessed by the user before it was time for them to shut the machine down again!
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Which version to go for then.
Home/Premium -Proffesional - Ultimate.
Automatically I would assume that going for the Ultimate version would be best, but am I right in thinking this.
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If you go for the 64bit version, you still might run in to apps and older equipment that is not supported.
But its not a big deal.
I use WMvare to run a copy of XP under my main os, so i just use that for the problematic apps:)
VMvare is a program that lets you "install" many os inside your main os...
Better to goolge that if you are curious:)
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We've got 12 windows in our house.
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We've got 12 windows in our house.
PMSL very good AA ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :y
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Automatically I would assume that going for the Ultimate version would be best, but am I right in thinking this.
All depends what you want to do with it.
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Automatically I would assume that going for the Ultimate version would be best, but am I right in thinking this.
All depends what you want to do with it.
As much as possible, and with a view to optimizing security.
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Automatically I would assume that going for the Ultimate version would be best, but am I right in thinking this.
All depends what you want to do with it.
As much as possible, and with a view to optimizing security.
1. Are you multi-lingual?
2. Do you want to encrypt any of the data on your hard disk?
2a. If so, do you want to use a 3rd party utility or would you prefer that option to be built in to the OS?
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Just installed 7 Ultimate on an Acer Aspire 5315 Laptop,everything seems to 'tick' so far--time will tell.
As far as the use of Linux is concerned,Ive been using it for some 10 years now and it has come a long way. Ease of use (for mainstream versions) has much improved
A good analogy is your very own Omega--if you dont mind a bit of tinkering now and again it will serve you well.
If you wanna give it try then you wont go wrong with Mint (an Ubuntu derivative)--steer clear of KDE 4 variants for now,and anything to do with Gentoo.
To give you an idea,download and burn (as an ISO) Puppy Linux. It runs from the CD (set PC to boot from CD) and can be used to rescue files from a knackered Windows installation.
eddie
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Well from what I saw (not much but) I would have to agree that Windows 7 is currently the best option.
But hearing the other admins opinions in my company most of them if they had to choose would chose Windows xp 64bit over vista any time.
xp64 has its own bunch of specific issues - mainly around no drivers, and a half baked approach ;D
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Reply #25 was a very helpfull evaluation. Totally agree not to set as Admin on an XP install, learnt that mistake the very 1st week I tried it, not through being smart, but by being naive and thought that was the way to go on the 1st istall, then set up as a user afterwards.
The last few years I have lost track of whats happening software/hard ware wise and when Vista came out I thought I would give it time to settle then build a brand new Vista based machine. Seems I may have done myself a 2 fold favour by waiting.
Up till now I have never used or seen Vista or Windows 7 in action. I take onboard what TB said about taking on new software and saying its naff. I was not eadger to move from Dos/Win 3.11 (Loads Dos based games) to windows 95 at 1st, didnt like it at all. Took a different approach to XP but suffered from driver problems, probably the reason I didnt jump straight to Vista.
So now that I am ready it seems Windows 7 is the way to go. Do I go for the Ultimate Version?
Also what is UAC?
TIA. :y
It would appear than running as a restricted user is somehow a slur on the lenght of our manhood, hence, those with egos larger than their ability, have to run as an Administrator (and all the insecurity that produces).
UAC is microsofts attempt to ensure that even those running as an Administrator are, in fact, only running as a restricted user most of the time. When a task that needs Admin rights is performed, a little pop-up asks if this is an intended action. Idea being to stop rogue processes making system changes. This will stop many trojans, hopefully a fair few other nasties. Its also a reminder to a user that they are doing something potentially dangerous to the system.
Its not a complete solution by any means. But its a damn site better than the XP way (ie, if a rogue process gets started by a admin (intentionally or not), it has free reign over the system).
Unix and Linux suffer similar to XP - many people insist on running as root (Unix/Linux equiv of Administrator (only more powerful)) or users with UID of 0 (Unix/Linux equiv of a member of local group Administrators (only more powerful)), and is how most Unix/Linux gets compromised. Like (pre Vista) Windows, Unix/Linux entire security model is based around users and services running within a restricted security context. Break these rules, and, like (pre Vista) Windows, Unix/Linux has no real security. Unix/Linux has no common equiv of UAC, so that makes (Vista onwards) Windows architecurally more secure than the supposed best (security wise) midrange systems. Obviously, Windows popularity means its a bigger target though.
Linux/Unix manuals have always been littered with warnings not to login as root generally. The reason I have often had to give Admin rights to Windows users is that too many brick-walls got hit with them going about their legitimate business otherwise.
I would argue that MS are playing catch-up in this respect and may have now got close to where they need to be on user authentication and access rights. What has held them back has been their priority of making everyone else incompatible with themselves. It will continue to hold them back as a manufacturer of useful products as there is no sign of them changing their underlying philosophy.
In case people think I have the 'solution'; I am writing this on an XP machine.
I was amused the other day to read in a trade paper that a number of manufacturers of portable machines were looking to run Linux alongside Windoze so that features like MP3 and web browsing could be accessed by the user before it was time for them to shut the machine down again!
Aside from installing drivers or other kernel mode stuff, Admin shouldn't be required if the programmers follow the rules.
Use decent software, and the requirement for admin goes (mostly) away.
NT based Windows and Unix variants have always been on a par for their security models, only Windows NT having more granular control over security. UAC now means windows security model far surpasses that of even proper Unix, let alone Linux.
Windows kernel is very stable - when was the last time you had a kernel crash that was not hardware or 3rd party driver related. How often does Windows get a kernel patch, compared to Linux ;). And whilst we're on stability, how bad can Linux be at resource handling ;)
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Which version to go for then.
Home/Premium -Proffesional - Ultimate.
Automatically I would assume that going for the Ultimate version would be best, but am I right in thinking this.
hprem if corporate stuff not reqd (domains,gpo,bitlocker etc)
pro if corporate stuff reqd, but not home stuff (mce etc)
ultimate if all reqd.
hprem is often most suitable for home users
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Just installed 7 Ultimate on an Acer Aspire 5315 Laptop,everything seems to 'tick' so far--time will tell.
As far as the use of Linux is concerned,Ive been using it for some 10 years now and it has come a long way. Ease of use (for mainstream versions) has much improved
A good analogy is your very own Omega--if you dont mind a bit of tinkering now and again it will serve you well.
If you wanna give it try then you wont go wrong with Mint (an Ubuntu derivative)--steer clear of KDE 4 variants for now,and anything to do with Gentoo.
To give you an idea,download and burn (as an ISO) Puppy Linux. It runs from the CD (set PC to boot from CD) and can be used to rescue files from a knackered Windows installation.
eddie
a google for any linux live distro will offer lots of different ones if anyone wants to try linux, but I'd personally install a vm solution (vmware server or virtual pc etc), and install in that
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Will win7 still play tv recordings made with vista (with/without tv pack)?
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Will win7 still play tv recordings made with vista (with/without tv pack)?
Yup, Ultimate comes bundled with Media Centre.
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Will win7 still play tv recordings made with vista (with/without tv pack)?
Yup, Ultimate comes bundled with Media Centre.
Yes I know but will it still play the stuff I've got recorded from Vista?
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Will win7 still play tv recordings made with vista (with/without tv pack)?
Yup, Ultimate comes bundled with Media Centre.
Yes I know but will it still play the stuff I've got recorded from Vista?
Not sure what format they are in, can't see why not? Media centre is the same in both Vista/7. Its the same framework.
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Will win7 still play tv recordings made with vista (with/without tv pack)?
Yup, Ultimate comes bundled with Media Centre.
Yes I know but will it still play the stuff I've got recorded from Vista?
Not sure what format they are in, can't see why not? Media centre is the same in both Vista/7. Its the same framework.
/panto on
Oh no its not
;D
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Will win7 still play tv recordings made with vista (with/without tv pack)?
Yup, Ultimate comes bundled with Media Centre.
Yes I know but will it still play the stuff I've got recorded from Vista?
Yup, both TV Pack and pre TV Pack.
If you want to play Win7 recordings on a pre TV Pack Vista, you need to do a convert back to old format (Win7 has built in converter to do this)
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Will win7 still play tv recordings made with vista (with/without tv pack)?
Yup, Ultimate comes bundled with Media Centre.
Yes I know but will it still play the stuff I've got recorded from Vista?
Not sure what format they are in, can't see why not? Media centre is the same in both Vista/7. Its the same framework.
Basic vista/xpmce are dvr-ms, tv pack changed them to wtv.
I think I read that tv pack was taken from the win7 build but was just checking before I decide to install 7.
Life wouldn't be worth living if 7 couldn't play her collection of bloody detective series.
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Will win7 still play tv recordings made with vista (with/without tv pack)?
Yup, Ultimate comes bundled with Media Centre.
Yes I know but will it still play the stuff I've got recorded from Vista?
Yup, both TV Pack and pre TV Pack.
If you want to play Win7 recordings on a pre TV Pack Vista, you need to do a convert back to old format (Win7 has built in converter to do this)
Cheers Jaime, looks like the media centre is becoming a test pilot for 7 then.
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Will win7 still play tv recordings made with vista (with/without tv pack)?
Yup, Ultimate comes bundled with Media Centre.
Yes I know but will it still play the stuff I've got recorded from Vista?
Yup, both TV Pack and pre TV Pack.
If you want to play Win7 recordings on a pre TV Pack Vista, you need to do a convert back to old format (Win7 has built in converter to do this)
Cheers Jaime, looks like the media centre is becoming a test pilot for 7 then.
I do like Media Centre, but because my media server uses Wifi it can be a pain, it needs a decent wired link really.
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Will win7 still play tv recordings made with vista (with/without tv pack)?
Yup, Ultimate comes bundled with Media Centre.
Yes I know but will it still play the stuff I've got recorded from Vista?
Yup, both TV Pack and pre TV Pack.
If you want to play Win7 recordings on a pre TV Pack Vista, you need to do a convert back to old format (Win7 has built in converter to do this)
Cheers Jaime, looks like the media centre is becoming a test pilot for 7 then.
I do like Media Centre, but because my media server uses Wifi it can be a pain, it needs a decent wired link really.
Its fine on a decent wireless bridge. USB dongles are always a bit naff.
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Will win7 still play tv recordings made with vista (with/without tv pack)?
Yup, Ultimate comes bundled with Media Centre.
That was my next question, but now I know the answer, cheers Tunnie. :y
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Will win7 still play tv recordings made with vista (with/without tv pack)?
Any operating system will play any crap if you have the right codec installed.
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Cheers Jaime, looks like the media centre is becoming a test pilot for 7 then.
MCE is a pure rip of XBMC, and the latter has always been free.
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Cheers Jaime, looks like the media centre is becoming a test pilot for 7 then.
MCE is a pure rip of XBMC, and the latter has always been free.
I prefer mce to xbmc. Additionally mce is free with most versions of windows anyway