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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Welung666 on 17 October 2009, 20:35:04
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Yet another page and a half 'welcomer' in the space of 7 or 8 minutes! >:(
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Haven't a clue --- due to the ill feeling welcoming new members has caused in the past I don't go there anymore >:(
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Aww don't be like that, most of us mean it ;D
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I still do as I thinks it's nice to welcome them properly and it wouldn't bother me not getting a post added. It's just that anyone wanting to welcome the latest member has to look halfway down page 2 to find them!
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I still do as I thinks it's nice to welcome them properly and it wouldn't bother me not getting a post added. It's just that anyone wanting to welcome the latest member has to look halfway down page 2 to find them!
Yes, I know ---- a recurring problem. And oft discussed in the past. I agree that is is good to make new members feel welcome and at home --- some have never ventured on a forum before and a welcome makes them feel easier.
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Yes I know HC, we've discussed it in the past. I'd understand if it was a newish member doing it as they wouldn't know it had been covered umpteen times before.
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The post count would only matter to somebody who needs them to be able to post on certain parts of the forum. This has even been suggested to newbies by established members, so what's the problem?
I happen to enjoy hearing from and welcoming newbies, post count ain't that important to me
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I still do as I thinks it's nice to welcome them properly and it wouldn't bother me not getting a post added. It's just that anyone wanting to welcome the latest member has to look halfway down page 2 to find them!
Yes, I know ---- a recurring problem. And oft discussed in the past. I agree that is is good to make new members feel welcome and at home --- some have never ventured on a forum before and a welcome makes them feel easier.
I agree, though rarely visit the newbie section for same reasons :( Just popped in and it does add to your post count ::) but the top one joined on 2nd Oct, so not the most recent, went further down :y
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Why can't people read the forum rules, it clearly says about welcoming people from over a week ago >:(
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The post count would only matter to somebody who needs them to be able to post on certain parts of the forum. This has even been suggested to newbies by established members, so what's the problem?
I happen to enjoy hearing from and welcoming newbies, post count ain't that important to me
You say that as your 250th post ;D ;D
I've never seen a longer standing member tell a newbie to go post 50 times in the welcome area so they can advertise a car though, they are told to join in and their post count will soon hit 50. Maybe an input from an admin on this would be helpful?
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The post count would only matter to somebody who needs them to be able to post on certain parts of the forum. This has even been suggested to newbies by established members, so what's the problem?
I happen to enjoy hearing from and welcoming newbies, post count ain't that important to me
What happens is that anyone who has joined today and has taken the time to say hello ends up on the second page with half a dozen replies and is forgotten about.
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You say that as your 250th post ;D ;D
That is a complete coincidence! ;D
No seriously, I have nothing to gain, I have no parts to sell
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The person who has done it has been around a little while by the looks of things
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The person who has done it has been around a little while by the looks of things
Yeah, and he drives an astra. Bastard ;D
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What happens is that anyone who has joined today and has taken the time to say hello ends up on the second page with half a dozen replies and is forgotten about.
Yeah, see the problem now. I suppose that section should really live up to what it's meant to be about, good point
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What happens is that anyone who has joined today and has taken the time to say hello ends up on the second page with half a dozen replies and is forgotten about.
Yeah, see the problem now. I suppose that section should really live up to what it's meant to be about, good point
This subject is like a bad penny and keeps coming back but for a change it's not a newbie trying to hype up their post count.
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havent been in there in over a year. While i agree totally in looking after new members, for what its worth i dont see the big issue with "group welcoming". With the post counts, it will get get attention, they will be welcomed, job done.
As said, i havent been in there for ages, so may well be missing the point, but, if there is such an issue, someone show me a non welcomed member, one that didnt get a fair share? Will be quite happy to change my opinion....?..... for what its worth, only "my" opinion at the end of the day.
Said this before, but imho, its far more upsetting for newbies to be missed out in general help. Doesnt happen very often but far more upsetting if you have a problem and need answers.
Bumped 3 TD owners posts from pages 2 and 3 the other day with zero replies, 2 of those had very few posts as i recall.....but then my memory is shot. :-)
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havent been in there in over a year. While i agree totally in looking after new members, for what its worth i dont see the big issue with "group welcoming". With the post counts, it will get get attention, they will be welcomed, job done.
As said, i havent been in there for ages, so may well be missing the point, but, if there is such an issue, someone show me a non welcomed member, one that didnt get a fair share? Will be quite happy to change my opinion....?..... for what its worth, only "my" opinion at the end of the day.
Said this before, but imho, its far more upsetting for newbies to be missed out in general help. Doesnt happen very often but far more upsetting if you have a problem and need answers.
Bumped 3 TD owners posts from pages 2 and 3 the other day with zero replies, 2 of those had very few posts as i recall.....but then my memory is shot. :-)
I agree with you there Chris, I have 'bumped' up posts from both general help and electrical with no or unhelpful replies a few times a few times even if I can't help myself. It just gets my heckles up when the newbie section is abused for reasons of post count boosting (especially when it's not needed as in this case).
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This section will allways raise conversation.
10 entries a page, 20 hi's and you are on page 3. If it were 25 entries par page then you would be on page 1, would you still complain that 20/25 actually bothered to take the time to welcome a newbie, rather than spend time complaining about it.
Post counts in that section, if you turn them off the newbie makes a post and doesnt get it counted, do they then bother to carry on.
Catch up, half the time you see members doing this, but they get carried away and go back 2 or 3 pages worth.
You will allways get members raising thier post count with Intent. They occasionally have a reason to do so, they came on just to sell parts and either post thier intentions in the newbie section, or complain butterly to get the post count up.
What ever anyones post is, is there for a reason. They took the time to write it FFS there has been plenty of back biting about my post count, Do I post pictures anymore, do I get involved as much, am I in the top 5 or even top 10 saddo list anymore, maybe there is a reason for that.
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Bloody hell, even TB is in there now boosting his post count, go and have a go at him and see where it gets you. [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif] [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif] :y
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The person who has done it has been around a little while by the looks of things
Yeah, and he drives an astra. Bastard ;D
Nowt wrong with an Astra, at least we get let out of side roads, nobody let's out bmw's or rubbish like that.
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This section will allways raise conversation.
10 entries a page, 20 hi's and you are on page 3. If it were 25 entries par page then you would be on page 1, would you still complain that 20/25 actually bothered to take the time to welcome a newbie, rather than spend time complaining about it.
Post counts in that section, if you turn them off the newbie makes a post and doesnt get it counted, do they then bother to carry on.
Catch up, half the time you see members doing this, but they get carried away and go back 2 or 3 pages worth.
You will allways get members raising thier post count with Intent. They occasionally have a reason to do so, they came on just to sell parts and either post thier intentions in the newbie section, or complain butterly to get the post count up.
What ever anyones post is, is there for a reason. They took the time to write it FFS there has been plenty of back biting about my post count, Do I post pictures anymore, do I get involved as much, am I in the top 5 or even top 10 saddo list anymore, maybe there is a reason for that.
I've never complained about your post count (or the pictures ;) nudge, nudge ). The main reason I repeatedly complain about this is that a newbie posts, they get 5 or 6 replies then they are suddenly not on the first page anymore and think they have been deleted when in reality they have been shoved down a page by someone with an eBay deal thinking they can make a couple of quid! Although I don't understand why this was neccessary this particular time???
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Bloody hell, even TB is in there now boosting his post count, go and have a go at him and see where it gets you. [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif] [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif] :y
Like Mr. 'nearly 50,000 posts' needs to boost ;D
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This section will allways raise conversation.
10 entries a page, 20 hi's and you are on page 3. If it were 25 entries par page then you would be on page 1, would you still complain that 20/25 actually bothered to take the time to welcome a newbie, rather than spend time complaining about it.
Post counts in that section, if you turn them off the newbie makes a post and doesnt get it counted, do they then bother to carry on.
Catch up, half the time you see members doing this, but they get carried away and go back 2 or 3 pages worth.
You will allways get members raising thier post count with Intent. They occasionally have a reason to do so, they came on just to sell parts and either post thier intentions in the newbie section, or complain butterly to get the post count up.
What ever anyones post is, is there for a reason. They took the time to write it FFS there has been plenty of back biting about my post count, Do I post pictures anymore, do I get involved as much, am I in the top 5 or even top 10 saddo list anymore maybe there is a reason for that.,
Yes you are currently Saddo number 4 ;D ;D ;D
Oh and the reason for that is you just post pictures, some nice ones I might add but still :D
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This section will allways raise conversation.
10 entries a page, 20 hi's and you are on page 3. If it were 25 entries par page then you would be on page 1, would you still complain that 20/25 actually bothered to take the time to welcome a newbie, rather than spend time complaining about it.
Post counts in that section, if you turn them off the newbie makes a post and doesnt get it counted, do they then bother to carry on.
Catch up, half the time you see members doing this, but they get carried away and go back 2 or 3 pages worth.
You will allways get members raising thier post count with Intent. They occasionally have a reason to do so, they came on just to sell parts and either post thier intentions in the newbie section, or complain butterly to get the post count up.
What ever anyones post is, is there for a reason. They took the time to write it FFS there has been plenty of back biting about my post count, Do I post pictures anymore, do I get involved as much, am I in the top 5 or even top 10 saddo list anymore, maybe there is a reason for that.
Yes you are currently Saddo number 4 ;D ;D ;D
Oh and the reason for that is you just post pictures, some nice ones I might add but still :D
Oi Pinky, thats my spot! ;D ;D
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This section will allways raise conversation.
10 entries a page, 20 hi's and you are on page 3. If it were 25 entries par page then you would be on page 1, would you still complain that 20/25 actually bothered to take the time to welcome a newbie, rather than spend time complaining about it.
Post counts in that section, if you turn them off the newbie makes a post and doesnt get it counted, do they then bother to carry on.
Catch up, half the time you see members doing this, but they get carried away and go back 2 or 3 pages worth.
You will allways get members raising thier post count with Intent. They occasionally have a reason to do so, they came on just to sell parts and either post thier intentions in the newbie section, or complain butterly to get the post count up.
What ever anyones post is, is there for a reason. They took the time to write it FFS there has been plenty of back biting about my post count, Do I post pictures anymore, do I get involved as much, am I in the top 5 or even top 10 saddo list anymore maybe there is a reason for that.,
Yes you are currently Saddo number 4 ;D ;D ;D
Oh and the reason for that is you just post pictures, some nice ones I might add but still :D
Not anymore.
I seriously dont think I am in 4th place at the moment.
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This section will allways raise conversation.
10 entries a page, 20 hi's and you are on page 3. If it were 25 entries par page then you would be on page 1, would you still complain that 20/25 actually bothered to take the time to welcome a newbie, rather than spend time complaining about it.
Post counts in that section, if you turn them off the newbie makes a post and doesnt get it counted, do they then bother to carry on.
Catch up, half the time you see members doing this, but they get carried away and go back 2 or 3 pages worth.
You will allways get members raising thier post count with Intent. They occasionally have a reason to do so, they came on just to sell parts and either post thier intentions in the newbie section, or complain butterly to get the post count up.
What ever anyones post is, is there for a reason. They took the time to write it FFS there has been plenty of back biting about my post count, Do I post pictures anymore, do I get involved as much, am I in the top 5 or even top 10 saddo list anymore maybe there is a reason for that.,
Yes you are currently Saddo number 4 ;D ;D ;D
Oh and the reason for that is you just post pictures, some nice ones I might add but still :D
Not anymore.
I seriously dont think I am in 4th place at the moment.
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I was in August :P I was trying for first but no chance with Jimbob about ;D ;D
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Well I cant even find this bloody saddo list ;D
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Well I cant even find this bloody saddo list ;D
So how can you comment I am in 4th place then.
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Well I cant even find this bloody saddo list ;D
So how can you comment I am in 4th place then.
he`s having a pink moment again, i wouldnt worry too much. :D
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Well I cant even find this bloody saddo list ;D
So how can you comment I am in 4th place then.
Because if you click members, then posts you come to be in 4th place :P
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Well I cant even find this bloody saddo list ;D
So how can you comment I am in 4th place then.
Because if you click members, then posts you come to be in 4th place :P
thats a total post count though, not a monthly saddo count ;)
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Well I cant even find this bloody saddo list ;D
So how can you comment I am in 4th place then.
he`s having a pink moment again, i wouldnt worry too much. :D
I dont.
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Well I cant even find this bloody saddo list ;D
So how can you comment I am in 4th place then.
he`s having a pink moment again, i wouldnt worry too much. :D
I dont.
Oh.. yes ya dooooo, Oh.. yes ya dooooo, Oh.. yes ya dooooo ;D ;D ;D :P :P :P
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Right all the Newbie Posts up until the week old deadline are now there with my name on them, so hopefully this will help anyone wanting to welcome Newbies without digging older ones out :y
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Right all the Newbie Posts up until the week old deadline are now there with my name on them, so hopefully this will help anyone wanting to welcome Newbies without digging older ones out :y
You missed one. ;D ;D ;D
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1255298700/all
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Right all the Newbie Posts up until the week old deadline are now there with my name on them, so hopefully this will help anyone wanting to welcome Newbies without digging older ones out :y
3.02am, youth you need to get to bed, your missing your beauty sleep and you can't afford too ;D ;D
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I don't reply to Newbies to increase my post count. I reply to them, because i think it's important to be welcomed by long standing members. This way the Newbie feels happier & hopefully they'll join in with threads in other sections & thus contributing to the forum. Now all this bitching & back biting we some times see isn't very welcoming. IS IT????????
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I also Agree with cd pete.
I only welcome the new guys to make them feel welcome and hope they join in. Its also good to see where they all come from, and sometimes you can point them in the right direction for there problems.
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I must admit when I joined it was great having so many people welcome me, I really felt part of the crowd straight away.
I used to be a regular contributor on the S2forum for my Audi and they were much like yourselves. Very welcoming and very knowledgable. On the flip side I go on the VWAUDI forum for my wifes Audi 80 and that is next to useless. Usually only get one or two replies to any questions and ZERO banter amongst the people on there.
Please could someone tell me what is the problem with building up your post count, and on the other hand, why would you want to, what benefits will you recieve (apart from more stars. I could have got a job a McDonalds if it was stars I was after)
Please, help out a soon to be grandad, maybe the old grey matter isn't working well any more. What am I missing here??
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I must admit when I joined it was great having so many people welcome me, I really felt part of the crowd straight away.
I used to be a regular contributor on the S2forum for my Audi and they were much like yourselves. Very welcoming and very knowledgable. On the flip side I go on the VWAUDI forum for my wifes Audi 80 and that is next to useless. Usually only get one or two replies to any questions and ZERO banter amongst the people on there.
Please could someone tell me what is the problem with building up your post count, and on the other hand, why would you want to, what benefits will you recieve (apart from more stars. I could have got a job a McDonalds if it was stars I was after)
Please, help out a soon to be grandad, maybe the old grey matter isn't working well any more. What am I missing here??
You need 50 posts to sell a car and 250 to sell parts, iirc. After that, I guess it is just stars !!!!
TBH I used to be a regular "welcomer", but got bitched at for it, even though I only used to welcome a few at a time ... so simply don't go in there any more.
As for stars and titles -- like you say -- go to Maccy D for stars (and my own title does me ;) ).
As Squealey says, the welcome and the banter on this forum is second to none -- long may it remain so :y
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The point about welcoming Newbies is if you start at the last unread post and work your way up - fine, it keeps the newest on top.
The problems start when people start at the top, and work their way down, the newest ends up last on the list, and only gets a few posts.
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The point about welcoming Newbies is if you start at the last unread post and work your way up - fine, it keeps the newest on top.
The problems start when people start at the top, and work their way down, the newest ends up last on the list, and only gets a few posts.
That's the way I do it B, my objection was people starting at the top and not stopping for a page and a half!
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The point about welcoming Newbies is if you start at the last unread post and work your way up - fine, it keeps the newest on top.
The problems start when people start at the top, and work their way down, the newest ends up last on the list, and only gets a few posts.
That's the way I do it B, my objection was people starting at the top and not stopping for a page and a half!
Or the people that welcome someone who joined about 3 weeks ::)
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Just noticed someone has spent ages deleting the posts :o
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Just noticed someone has spent ages deleting the posts :o
Like I've got break all better to do >:(
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Just noticed someone has spent ages deleting the posts :o
Like I've got break all better to do >:(
Sorry boss :( It just gets my heckles up
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The point about welcoming Newbies is if you start at the last unread post and work your way up - fine, it keeps the newest on top.
The problems start when people start at the top, and work their way down, the newest ends up last on the list, and only gets a few posts.
Just realised I start at the top, bugger - sorry :-[
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In the grand scheme of things,is it that important ? ;)
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its happened again ::)
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its happened again ::)
Sh!t yerself?
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its happened again ::)
Sh!t yerself?
You can always be relied upon to make a supportive comment, we need more members like you....... :D :D :D
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its happened again ::)
And again ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D
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Why not limit welcoming new members to the last 48hrs of joining, or remove the new members entry after 48 hours ? That would stop it. :y
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Why not limit welcoming new members to the last 48hrs of joining, or remove the new members entry after 48 hours ? That would stop it. :y
Maybe the software than the forum runs on can/cant do that. Maybe mabe making everything after page 1 or 2 read only would be the best way to go about it.
Either way there is never going to be a right way fo get a soloution.
What ever the result the Admin team have enough on thier plates. so maybe just a polite PM from frequent members with a link for the forum rules may solve it :-/
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its happened again ::)
And again ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D
Just noticed. :-X :-/
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All so he could post a wanted ad for a car >:( I wish people would read the guidelines, that's why they are there!
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All so he could post a wanted ad for a car >:( I wish people would read the guidelines, that's why they are there!
Might be quicker to delete thier add and put them a "you were warned in the rules" statement. ::) :-X :-/
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I hope i'm not in trouble again? :o I have to admit, i'm not too bright when it comes to finding the rules, much less reading them ::) I also have to admit I welcome newbies because I still feel like one & remember how good it felt when you guys said hello to me. I also felt ridiculously pleased with myself when I reached the 500 post count & I became a 'senior', sad I know, but I lead a very sheltered life now ;)
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What's a 'Newbies section'?
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trimmed......
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Sorry Broocie :( Maybe an adjustment to the guidelines to clarify the wanted posting subject?
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I think what was more annoying was just the smiliey and not even taking the time out to write a welcome. :-/