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Title: bl00dy phone (mobile)
Post by: Andy B on 08 November 2009, 21:18:39
Last week I 'float tested' my mobile phone (Nokia 6300 - it makes phone calls!) down the pan!
It failed & sank!  :'(  :-?  ::)
So I whipped the battery out and left it for a couple of days in the cupboard where the boiler lives in the warmth.
I dismantled it, gave the contacts between the boards a clean with switch cleaner, rebuilt it, put the battery back in and gingerly turned it on and  :-/ ..... it sprang into action!!!!!  :y
It worked fine for a couple of days, and then nothing .....  :'( there was just the 2 lights on either side.
So ...... I dismantled it again, cleaned it it up with more switch cleaner, & thought WTF and blasted the guts of it with afore mention switch cleaner!   :-? amd it worked!!!
I've used it daily since last week and it still appears to work, only today I've lost my signal!  :(
How can I have lost all bars of my signal when it's been working great all week?
Suggestions on a post card please



Yes! I know... I need a new phone, but it's bugging me the fact it's been working fine for a week, & it still starts up OK but has no signal ...  :-?  :-?  :-?
Title: Re: bl00dy phone (mobile)
Post by: tunnie on 08 November 2009, 21:21:41
you could of fried the Ariel with all that switch cleaner  :'( i dropped a trust HTC SPV 3100 on its head, phone worked fine, but zero signal
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Post by: PhilRich on 08 November 2009, 21:23:27
I think it's trying to tell you something Andy ;D ;)
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Post by: TheBoy on 08 November 2009, 21:24:12
You're unlikely to revive it Andy B.

Go on, trat yourself :y
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Post by: Andy B on 08 November 2009, 21:24:32
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you could of fried the Ariel with all that switch cleaner  :'(  .......

But it's worked all week, and I left it to evaporate before I put the battery back in.  :-/
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Post by: TheBoy on 08 November 2009, 21:24:52
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You're unlikely to revive it Andy B.

Go on, trat yourself :y
Trat? What the hel does that mean.  I think i meant treat
Title: Re: bl00dy phone (mobile)
Post by: Andy B on 08 November 2009, 21:25:54
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You're unlikely to revive it Andy B.

Go on, trat yourself :y
I'll see what Father Christmas might bring me if I'm good!!

but why has it lasted all week before f***ing me off?  :-/  :-?
Title: Re: bl00dy phone (mobile)
Post by: Andy B on 08 November 2009, 21:26:36
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You're unlikely to revive it Andy B.

Go on, trat yourself :y
Trat? What the hel does that mean.  I think i meant treat

Is that the Stella speaking?  ::) :y
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Post by: Mr Skrunts on 08 November 2009, 21:28:29
Nokia 6300, think thats what I have, best not drop it down the pan then....had I.   :-/
Title: Re: bl00dy phone (mobile)
Post by: tunnie on 08 November 2009, 21:29:00
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you could of fried the Ariel with all that switch cleaner  :'(  .......

But it's worked all week, and I left it to evaporate before I put the battery back in.  :-/

As we know with head gaskets, water is very corrosive, its just taken time i guess.  :-/
Title: Re: bl00dy phone (mobile)
Post by: Kevin Wood on 08 November 2009, 21:33:35
Make sure the contact between the PCB and the antenna is making OK.

Kevin
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Post by: Andy B on 08 November 2009, 21:40:22
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.... water is very corrosive .....

It's what else was down there perhaps!  :-?  :-?  :-?
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Post by: Andy B on 08 November 2009, 21:42:19
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Make sure the contact between the PCB and the antenna is making OK.

Kevin

That's what I thought this evening when I took it apart again, but ....... wtf is the antenna?  :-/  :-/  :-/
I've 'tightened' all sprung connection that I could see, maybe I need more switch cleaner ......  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: bl00dy phone (mobile)
Post by: tunnie on 08 November 2009, 21:42:20
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.... water is very corrosive .....

It's what else was down there perhaps!  :-?  :-?  :-?

Dare i ask exactly where it went for swim?  ;D
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Post by: Andy B on 08 November 2009, 21:42:47
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.... water is very corrosive .....

It's what else was down there perhaps!  :-?  :-?  :-?

Dare i ask exactly where it went for swim?  ;D

best not go there!!!!!!  :-X  :-?  :-?  :-?  :y
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Post by: tunnie on 08 November 2009, 21:44:59
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Make sure the contact between the PCB and the antenna is making OK.

Kevin

That's what I thought this evening when I took it apart again, but ....... wtf is the antenna?  :-/  :-/  :-/
I've 'tightened' all sprung connection that I could see, maybe I need more switch cleaner ......  ;D  ;D  ;D

Looks like this:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21KR-eMAEAL._SL500_AA180_.jpg)

You can get spares on Amazon, but tbh, think its time to splash the cash on a new one phone!
Title: Re: bl00dy phone (mobile)
Post by: I_want_an_Omega on 08 November 2009, 22:07:07
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you could of fried the Ariel with all that switch cleaner  :'( i dropped a trust HTC SPV 3100 on its head, phone worked fine, but zero signal

What do you mean by trust Tunnie?
Title: Re: bl00dy phone (mobile)
Post by: tunnie on 08 November 2009, 22:10:42
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you could of fried the Ariel with all that switch cleaner  :'( i dropped a trust HTC SPV 3100 on its head, phone worked fine, but zero signal

What do you mean by trust Tunnie?

Typo, my bad, meant to say Trusty HTC
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Post by: HolyCount on 08 November 2009, 22:40:36
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Make sure the contact between the PCB and the antenna is making OK.

Kevin

That's what I thought this evening when I took it apart again, but ....... wtf is the antenna?  :-/  :-/  :-/
I've 'tightened' all sprung connection that I could see, maybe I need more switch cleaner ......  ;D  ;D  ;D

Looks like this:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21KR-eMAEAL._SL500_AA180_.jpg)

You can get spares on Amazon, but tbh, think its time to splash the cash on a new one phone!

I think the phone has had enough "splash" !  ::)
Title: Re: bl00dy phone (mobile)
Post by: Andy B on 08 November 2009, 22:46:48
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Make sure the contact between the PCB and the antenna is making OK.

Kevin

That's what I thought this evening when I took it apart again, but ....... wtf is the antenna?  :-/  :-/  :-/
I've 'tightened' all sprung connection that I could see, maybe I need more switch cleaner ......  ;D  ;D  ;D

Looks like this:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21KR-eMAEAL._SL500_AA180_.jpg)

You can get spares on Amazon, but tbh, think its time to splash the cash on a new one phone!

I think the phone has had enough "splash" !  ::)

but why work for a week before dying?   :-/  ;) Everything else works fine, I just don't have a signal  :'(
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Post by: Vamps on 08 November 2009, 22:47:57
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Make sure the contact between the PCB and the antenna is making OK.

Kevin

That's what I thought this evening when I took it apart again, but ....... wtf is the antenna?  :-/  :-/  :-/
I've 'tightened' all sprung connection that I could see, maybe I need more switch cleaner ......  ;D  ;D  ;D

Looks like this:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21KR-eMAEAL._SL500_AA180_.jpg)

You can get spares on Amazon, but tbh, think its time to splash the cash on a new one phone!

I think the phone has had enough "splash" !  ::)

but why work for a week before dying?   :'(  ;)

Goodness me, just get a new one........ :D :D :D
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Post by: Andy B on 08 November 2009, 22:49:23
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Make sure the contact between the PCB and the antenna is making OK.

Kevin

That's what I thought this evening when I took it apart again, but ....... wtf is the antenna?  :-/  :-/  :-/
I've 'tightened' all sprung connection that I could see, maybe I need more switch cleaner ......  ;D  ;D  ;D

Looks like this:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21KR-eMAEAL._SL500_AA180_.jpg)

You can get spares on Amazon, but tbh, think its time to splash the cash on a new one phone!

I think the phone has had enough "splash" !  ::)

but why work for a week before dying?   :'(  ;)

Goodness me, just get a new one........ :D :D :D

OK OK!!  ;D ;D I just like to know why things fail ...... :y :y
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Post by: tunnie on 08 November 2009, 22:50:25
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Make sure the contact between the PCB and the antenna is making OK.

Kevin

That's what I thought this evening when I took it apart again, but ....... wtf is the antenna?  :-/  :-/  :-/
I've 'tightened' all sprung connection that I could see, maybe I need more switch cleaner ......  ;D  ;D  ;D

Looks like this:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21KR-eMAEAL._SL500_AA180_.jpg)

You can get spares on Amazon, but tbh, think its time to splash the cash on a new one phone!

I think the phone has had enough "splash" !  ::)

but why work for a week before dying?   :'(  ;)

Goodness me, just get a new one........ :D :D :D

OK OK!!  ;D ;D I just like to know why things fail ...... :y :y

Sh!t happens  ;D

In your case, it really did!   :D
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Post by: Vamps on 08 November 2009, 22:50:59
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Make sure the contact between the PCB and the antenna is making OK.

Kevin

That's what I thought this evening when I took it apart again, but ....... wtf is the antenna?  :-/  :-/  :-/
I've 'tightened' all sprung connection that I could see, maybe I need more switch cleaner ......  ;D  ;D  ;D

Looks like this:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21KR-eMAEAL._SL500_AA180_.jpg)

You can get spares on Amazon, but tbh, think its time to splash the cash on a new one phone!

I think the phone has had enough "splash" !  ::)

but why work for a week before dying?   :'(  ;)

Goodness me, just get a new one........ :D :D :D

OK OK!!  ;D ;D I just like to know why things fail ...... :y :y

Cos you tried to see if it would float...... ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: bl00dy phone (mobile)
Post by: Andy B on 08 November 2009, 22:59:07
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Make sure the contact between the PCB and the antenna is making OK.

Kevin

That's what I thought this evening when I took it apart again, but ....... wtf is the antenna?  :-/  :-/  :-/
I've 'tightened' all sprung connection that I could see, maybe I need more switch cleaner ......  ;D  ;D  ;D

Looks like this:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21KR-eMAEAL._SL500_AA180_.jpg)

You can get spares on Amazon, but tbh, think its time to splash the cash on a new one phone!

I think the phone has had enough "splash" !  ::)

but why work for a week before dying?   :'(  ;)

Goodness me, just get a new one........ :D :D :D

OK OK!!  ;D ;D I just like to know why things fail ...... :y :y

Sh!t happens  ;D

In your case, it really did!   :D

I did say it was best not to go there!!!  :-? ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: bl00dy phone (mobile)
Post by: feeutfo on 08 November 2009, 23:48:30
i know somebody who dropped an n95 8gb down the carzie! Got it out, removed the battery immediately. Thoroughly rinsed it under the tap, left it to dry, new battery as the old one swelled up like a balloon, phone still working fine now over a year later! Maybe they dont like switch cleaner or taking apart?

And would think it should be repairable. They are fairly robust. Bad refit i recon?  ;)
Title: Re: bl00dy phone (mobile)
Post by: Kevin Wood on 09 November 2009, 00:06:05
Normally, as long as you get the power off immediately, so connections don't corrode, it'll be OK.

Kevin
Title: Re: bl00dy phone (mobile)
Post by: Vamps on 09 November 2009, 00:08:14
Oh don't get him going again........ :D :D :D
Title: Re: bl00dy phone (mobile)
Post by: eddie on 09 November 2009, 00:59:54
Pop all the covers of-stick it in  a sealed plastic bag with some silica gel (little bags of crystals you get with electrical equipment) and leave it for a couple of days.  Make sure the crystals are dry first,pop them in a warm oven for a few minutes.

eddie
Title: Re: bl00dy phone (mobile)
Post by: Andy B on 09 November 2009, 05:54:07
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Normally, as long as you get the power off immediately, so connections don't corrode, it'll be OK.

Kevin

That's what I did.  :(
Title: Re: bl00dy phone (mobile)
Post by: Andy B on 09 November 2009, 05:54:50
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Pop all the covers of-stick it in  a sealed plastic bag with some silica gel (little bags of crystals you get with electrical equipment) and leave it for a couple of days.  Make sure the crystals are dry first,pop them in a warm oven for a few minutes.

eddie

Surely it can't be a moisture problem a week after the event ......  can it?  :-/  :y
Title: Re: bl00dy phone (mobile)
Post by: Andy B on 09 November 2009, 05:56:24
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..... Bad refit i recon?  ;)

Can't be! It'll either go together right or not at all ....  ;)  ;)
Title: Re: bl00dy phone (mobile)
Post by: jereboam on 09 November 2009, 11:32:55
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but why has it lasted all week before f***ing me off?  :-/  :-?

I once dropped a Motorola in a pile of snow (wintery type) and then proceeded to run over it.  I dried it off, reassembled the pieces and it worked! 
... for two days.  Then it died.  I sent it back for repair, omitting the details above, and got a message back to say "crush damage - not repairable". 
Just 'cos the chips look OK doesn't mean they're working OK.

Title: Re: bl00dy phone (mobile)
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 09 November 2009, 11:46:11
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Pop all the covers of-stick it in  a sealed plastic bag with some silica gel (little bags of crystals you get with electrical equipment) and leave it for a couple of days.  Make sure the crystals are dry first,pop them in a warm oven for a few minutes.

eddie

Surely it can't be a moisture problem a week after the event ......  can it?  :-/  :y

Of course it can be....crystaline growth between sprung contacts which were not fully dry.....this includes IC legs/balls.

And remember, there is more to the transciever than just the antenna
Title: Re: bl00dy phone (mobile)
Post by: Andy B on 09 November 2009, 12:05:12
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Pop all the covers of-stick it in  a sealed plastic bag with some silica gel (little bags of crystals you get with electrical equipment) and leave it for a couple of days.  Make sure the crystals are dry first,pop them in a warm oven for a few minutes.

eddie

Surely it can't be a moisture problem a week after the event ......  can it?  :-/  :y

Of course it can be....crystaline growth between sprung contacts which were not fully dry.....this includes IC legs/balls.

And remember, there is more to the transciever than just the antenna

I'll get a new phone ...... it's a good job I backed it all up when I could!!!  ;) ;) :y

I thought so .....  ;D :y
Title: Re: bl00dy phone (mobile)
Post by: feeutfo on 09 November 2009, 13:19:24
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..... Bad refit i recon?  ;)

Can't be! It'll either go together right or not at all ....  ;)  ;)
Yeah yeah, i bet there's copper slip in there somewhere. ;D

Sorry could not resist. ;)

I'll bugger off now. :-)
Title: Re: bl00dy phone (mobile)
Post by: Andy B on 09 November 2009, 16:20:47
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Yeah yeah, i bet there's copper slip in there somewhere. ;D

Sorry could not resist. ;)

I'll bugger off now. :-)

 :-?  :-? So .... you don't think I should have used any at all!   :-?  :-?  :y  :y ;D