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Title: Wifi problem
Post by: LFF64 on 08 November 2009, 12:06:20
Again this weekend  I have had problems connecting to the internet using wireless
 It was prefect on Thursday but on Friday it just  would not play
 When it did connect it was so slow I am talking min rather than seconds to connect  and then dropping out even then .
 
 I contacted Bt help line and they logged on to my laptop remotely and have changed the wireless channel , I now know how to do this .
 Question is does any one else have this problem
 The laptop and hub have not moved and nothing else has changed so I dont understand why this happens

I notice BT now do a device called an iplate anyone know what this is and would it be worth getting one
I think its free I just have to pay postage £1.20


Title: Re: Wifi problem
Post by: Plomien on 08 November 2009, 12:12:23
I plate is worth getting IMHO, as regards the channel change you most likely will find one of your neighbours has had wireless recently setup and it was crossing over with yours :y
Title: Re: Wifi problem
Post by: LFF64 on 08 November 2009, 12:21:26
You maybe right there I noticed some different hubs on the list
 I will get one of the iplates on order then its not going to do any harm is it  :D
Title: Re: Wifi problem
Post by: Chris_H on 08 November 2009, 12:48:14
I don't know your setup obviously, but I have had similar symptoms using DHCP.  My wireless router was issuing IP addresses for some unknown network so I used static IP addresses and that solved it.

Mid you, I rarely use wifi as Cat5 is far superior and I have a large masonry drill! :)
Title: Re: Wifi problem
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 08 November 2009, 14:02:24
I started a chat about the I-Plate during the week, dont know if it helps at all.


http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1257458936/all
Title: Re: Wifi problem
Post by: KillerWatt on 08 November 2009, 19:10:25
Has changing the wireless channel resolved the problem?

If so, it's odds on that a neighbour has just got themselves wireless and their kit was better than yours in the Tx power stakes (hence, you had the problem until the channel change).

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You maybe right there I noticed some different hubs on the list
See above.
Either change channel, or make sure you can transmit harder than them.


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Mid you, I rarely use wifi as Cat5 is far superior and I have a large masonry drill! :)
Cat5 is only superior if you are still using the old 100Mbit stuff and you don't have N grade wireless.
Title: Re: Wifi problem
Post by: Chris_H on 08 November 2009, 20:45:27
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Has changing the wireless channel resolved the problem?

If so, it's odds on that a neighbour has just got themselves wireless and their kit was better than yours in the Tx power stakes (hence, you had the problem until the channel change).

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You maybe right there I noticed some different hubs on the list
See above.
Either change channel, or make sure you can transmit harder than them.


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Mid you, I rarely use wifi as Cat5 is far superior and I have a large masonry drill! :)
Cat5 is only superior if you are still using the old 100Mbit stuff and you don't have N grade wireless.
Twaddle.  Anything wireless suffers dropouts at the power levels used and the ranges needed.  And you can easily get G/Bit down Cat5 over the lengths in an average house.
Title: Re: Wifi problem
Post by: KillerWatt on 08 November 2009, 20:51:56
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Has changing the wireless channel resolved the problem?

If so, it's odds on that a neighbour has just got themselves wireless and their kit was better than yours in the Tx power stakes (hence, you had the problem until the channel change).

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You maybe right there I noticed some different hubs on the list
See above.
Either change channel, or make sure you can transmit harder than them.


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Mid you, I rarely use wifi as Cat5 is far superior and I have a large masonry drill! :)
Cat5 is only superior if you are still using the old 100Mbit stuff and you don't have N grade wireless.
Twaddle.  Anything wireless suffers dropouts at the power levels used and the ranges needed.  And you can easily get G/Bit down Cat5 over the lengths in an average house.
I've personally never had any wireless dropouts here, but then I did think about what I wanted before I set it up.

As for Gigabit, where the f**k did that come in to it?

If you are talking Gigabit then of course wireless isn't going to match it just yet, but we were talking 100Mbit versus wi-fi N...and N easily matches it in an average house.


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You'll be wanting Cat5e minimum to get Gigabit working at anywhere near full speed  ;)
Title: Re: Wifi problem
Post by: TheBoy on 08 November 2009, 21:17:24
Wireless is never as quick as wired.  125Mb wifi does not mean anywhere near 125Mb throughput.  Under ideal conditions, you'd be lucky to get half that.  Even crappy 100Mb ethernet is capable of 200Mb.
Title: Re: Wifi problem
Post by: Chris_H on 08 November 2009, 21:32:44
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Has changing the wireless channel resolved the problem?

If so, it's odds on that a neighbour has just got themselves wireless and their kit was better than yours in the Tx power stakes (hence, you had the problem until the channel change).

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You maybe right there I noticed some different hubs on the list
See above.
Either change channel, or make sure you can transmit harder than them.


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Mid you, I rarely use wifi as Cat5 is far superior and I have a large masonry drill! :)
Cat5 is only superior if you are still using the old 100Mbit stuff and you don't have N grade wireless.
Twaddle.  Anything wireless suffers dropouts at the power levels used and the ranges needed.  And you can easily get G/Bit down Cat5 over the lengths in an average house.
I've personally never had any wireless dropouts here, but then I did think about what I wanted before I set it up.

As for Gigabit, where the f**k did that come in to it?

If you are talking Gigabit then of course wireless isn't going to match it just yet, but we were talking 100Mbit versus wi-fi N...and N easily matches it in an average house.


PS
You'll be wanting Cat5e minimum to get Gigabit working at anywhere near full speed  ;)

Gigabit was never out of it.  I said Cat5 was better. You limited it to 100Mb.
Title: Re: Wifi problem
Post by: LFF64 on 09 November 2009, 06:30:00
Yes changing channel did sort it out by the way  :y
Title: Re: Wifi problem
Post by: TheBoy on 09 November 2009, 18:03:15
if you run xp, netstumbler is a usable freebie tool to check what channels are unused (none around here :().

Not found (or looked if I'm honest) one for vista/w7
Title: Re: Wifi problem
Post by: KillerWatt on 09 November 2009, 20:00:33
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Wireless is never as quick as wired.  125Mb wifi does not mean anywhere near 125Mb throughput.
125 was the old bulls*it 54G x 2 crap mate, N is double that with ease at base level.

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Gigabit was never out of it.  I said Cat5 was better. You limited it to 100Mb.
Well if you want to start putting words in to my mouth, then let's get it straight.
Cat5 is only rated to 100Mbit, you need Cat5e MINIMUM to even think about Gigabit....and if it's a distance run then you'll want to have Cat6.