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Title: Don't forget Top Gear!
Post by: Nickbat on 15 November 2009, 15:26:31
New series starts tonight, 9pm.
 :y :y
Title: Re: Don't forget Top Gear!
Post by: tunnie on 15 November 2009, 15:29:46
cheers forgot about that!  :y
Title: Re: Don't forget Top Gear!
Post by: Martin_1962 on 15 November 2009, 15:30:48
On BBC-HD :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: Don't forget Top Gear!
Post by: tunnie on 15 November 2009, 15:31:50
Also a reminder its in HD this year as well, same start time on BBC HD  :y
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Post by: Del Boy on 15 November 2009, 15:31:52
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On BBC-HD :y :y :y :y
Good stuff  :y
Title: Re: Don't forget Top Gear!
Post by: mantahatch on 15 November 2009, 15:56:47
And for those of us who can't afford a £50,000 car. On BBC3 there are 2 episodes of Two pints on at 9pm.

Guess what I will be watching  ;D
Title: Re: Don't forget Top Gear!
Post by: tunnie on 15 November 2009, 16:00:14
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And for those of us who can't afford a £50,000 car. On BBC3 there are 2 episodes of Two pints on at 9pm.

Guess what I will be watching  ;D

As we all know TG is about the enterainment of 3 blokes mucking around on TV, cars are an after thought really  ;D
Title: Re: Don't forget Top Gear!
Post by: Martin_1962 on 15 November 2009, 16:46:59
And Sue can't watch nonentity until after TG
Title: Re: Don't forget Top Gear!
Post by: Devious on 15 November 2009, 17:22:08
I'm genuinely that excited, I'm moist...  :o
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Post by: feeutfo on 15 November 2009, 18:24:08
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I'm genuinely that excited, I'm moist...  :o
I was moister first...... :y    ;D
Title: Re: Don't forget Top Gear!
Post by: TheBoy on 15 November 2009, 19:57:05
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On BBC-HD :y :y :y :y
Probably not worthwhile in the case of TG.  More storage space on my tiny (1Tb) disk.  Fortunately:

a) MCE is a bloody first class upscaler

b) I have a bigger disk on order ;D
Title: Re: Don't forget Top Gear!
Post by: Welung666 on 15 November 2009, 19:59:22
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I'm genuinely that excited, I'm moist...  :o
I was moister first...... :y    ;D

EEEEWWWWW  [smiley=undecided.gif]
Title: Re: Don't forget Top Gear!
Post by: CaptainZok on 15 November 2009, 19:59:31
Media centre has a good memory so it won't forget to record it. ;D
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Post by: Devious on 15 November 2009, 20:00:43
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I'm genuinely that excited, I'm moist...  :o
I was moister first...... :y    ;D

EEEEWWWWW  [smiley=undecided.gif]


He wasn't, he would've said it otherwise. I could wring my pants out lololol   ;)
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Post by: STMO999 on 15 November 2009, 20:15:18
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I'm genuinely that excited, I'm moist...  :o
I was moister first...... :y    ;D

EEEEWWWWW  [smiley=undecided.gif]


He wasn't, he would've said it otherwise. I could wring my pants out lololol   ;)


Jimny's in the winter eh? Leak like a collander.
Title: Re: Don't forget Top Gear!
Post by: Martin_1962 on 15 November 2009, 20:23:09
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On BBC-HD :y :y :y :y
Probably not worthwhile in the case of TG.  More storage space on my tiny (1Tb) disk.  Fortunately:

a) MCE is a bloody first class upscaler

b) I have a bigger disk on order ;D


You cannot recreate missing information.

I have done some digging around and supposedly the PS3 is a good upscaler, so is my TV - anyway DVD and SDTV is noticably worse than BR and BBC-HD

Oh and my DVD player via top end RGB looks no different to PS3 upscaling, I did try component for DVD, looked slightly different - no better no worse.
Title: Re: Don't forget Top Gear!
Post by: richardirv on 15 November 2009, 20:23:46
Dam, I wish my Sky Box had 3 tuners.  :'(
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Post by: TheBoy on 15 November 2009, 20:40:28
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On BBC-HD :y :y :y :y
Probably not worthwhile in the case of TG.  More storage space on my tiny (1Tb) disk.  Fortunately:

a) MCE is a bloody first class upscaler

b) I have a bigger disk on order ;D


You cannot recreate missing information.

I have done some digging around and supposedly the PS3 is a good upscaler, so is my TV - anyway DVD and SDTV is noticably worse than BR and BBC-HD

Oh and my DVD player via top end RGB looks no different to PS3 upscaling, I did try component for DVD, looked slightly different - no better no worse.
You're right, no upscaler is perfect.  However, MCE is significantly better than PS3, which itself is (marginally) better than W Series Sony.

I have Casino Royale in normal DVD format, and (being a bond fan) have the BRD version.  The way MCE deals with it, you'd be hard pressed to tell them apart unless side-by-side.  I have set this test to a few people, and whilst everyone has got the test right, they were impressed with upscale ;)

Freesat-HD (and Sky-HD) is only 720P, and by time its heavily compressed, isn't massively better than normal DVD ;)
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Post by: TheBoy on 15 November 2009, 20:41:18
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Dam, I wish my Sky Box had 3 tuners.  :'(
My MCE is down to 4 tuners, after one tuned itself - rather spectacularly - to channel smoke...
Title: Re: Don't forget Top Gear!
Post by: Martin_1962 on 15 November 2009, 20:43:49
BBC HD is 1440x1080i same resolution in fact as HDV.

SDTV is quite acceptable, but HD is better, and BluRay (especially Pixar) is by far and away the best.

Only 720p material I tend to come across are games, and if you look you can see the slight loss of detail compared to 1080p.
Title: Re: Don't forget Top Gear!
Post by: TheBoy on 15 November 2009, 20:49:30
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BBC HD is 1440x1080i same resolution in fact as HDV.

SDTV is quite acceptable, but HD is better, and BluRay (especially Pixar) is by far and away the best.

Only 720p material I tend to come across are games, and if you look you can see the slight loss of detail compared to 1080p.
720p is arguably better.

Pixar type films are easy to upscale, like most animations.


If its a live TV prog I really want to watch, I do so via MCE, as MCE is miles better at it than my (not exactly shabby) Samsung telly
Title: Re: Don't forget Top Gear!
Post by: Nickbat on 15 November 2009, 22:08:03
Thoroughly enjoyed it tonight! :y :y

Mind you, the set-ups are getting a bit obvious (e.g the Dacia getting the reversing lorry treatment).  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Don't forget Top Gear!
Post by: Martin_1962 on 15 November 2009, 22:11:41
Best thing on TV tonight

Doctor Who was pants - roll on the new writer & actor

Title: Re: Don't forget Top Gear!
Post by: ENFIELD_MV6 on 15 November 2009, 23:27:33
missed it, when is the repeat any ideas ??????
Title: Re: Don't forget Top Gear!
Post by: albitz on 15 November 2009, 23:41:40
would love to have that 760i Beemer,as long as I didnt have to look at it from the outside. :) ::)
Title: Re: Don't forget Top Gear!
Post by: feeutfo on 15 November 2009, 23:55:48
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missed it, when is the repeat any ideas ??????
Previous series have been repeated on tuesday evening iirc. Not sure on this series, presume same. Or i player.
Title: Re: Don't forget Top Gear!
Post by: feeutfo on 16 November 2009, 00:07:13
and by the way, did anyone notice yet another mention of seemless dsg gear changes? By Hamster in the rarri!.....have i understood that correctly? Have they designed their own or pinched someone elses dsg?
Title: Re: Don't forget Top Gear!
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 16 November 2009, 00:07:24
                
Top Gear
Season 14 Episode 1 of 7
Jeremy Clarkson, Richard Hammond and James May test-drive an Aston Martin DBS Convertible, a Ferrari California and a Lamborghini Gallardo Convertible in Romania, as they search for the fabled mountain highway built by the country's former dictator Nicolae Ceausescu - allegedly the best road to drive on in the world. Actor Eric Bana is the Star in a Reasonably Priced Car
Category Motoring
Executive Producer Andy Wilman
BBC2 8:00pm-9:00pm (1 hour ) Wed 18 Nov
(Subtitles) (Repeat)
Title: Re: Don't forget Top Gear!
Post by: tunnie on 16 November 2009, 08:54:16
I liked the Aston, V12, with a proper manual gearbox  :D
Title: Re: Don't forget Top Gear!
Post by: The Red Baron on 16 November 2009, 09:11:12
damn, missed it.  :(
Title: Re: Don't forget Top Gear!
Post by: Kevin Wood on 16 November 2009, 09:25:44
I thought it was 58 minutes of my life wasted, TBH. The 2 minutes at the end were interesting, though. That road looked perfect. [smiley=evil.gif]

Kevin
Title: Re: Don't forget Top Gear!
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 16 November 2009, 09:42:47
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and by the way, did anyone notice yet another mention of seemless dsg gear changes? By Hamster in the rarri!.....have i understood that correctly? Have they designed their own or pinched someone elses dsg?

Surprised they chose that setup as its very heavy (not good for that type of car) and the down shifts are slow.

Up-shifting should be quick as your next gear is always pre-engaged.....not so good if you do 2 quick up-shifts though.
Title: Re: Don't forget Top Gear!
Post by: feeutfo on 16 November 2009, 10:51:07
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and by the way, did anyone notice yet another mention of seemless dsg gear changes? By Hamster in the rarri!.....have i understood that correctly? Have they designed their own or pinched someone elses dsg?

Surprised they chose that setup as its very heavy (not good for that type of car) and the down shifts are slow.

Up-shifting should be quick as your next gear is always pre-engaged.....not so good if you do 2 quick up-shifts though.

Suprised me too. Being fiat owned and all that. Must have designed their own? Maybe they have 3 clutches? Hope the warrantys up to it.  :-/

Title: Re: Don't forget Top Gear!
Post by: Blackie_No1 on 16 November 2009, 12:19:08
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I liked the Aston, V12, with a proper manual gearbox  :D
Gotta say that after working with Ferrari and Aston's I am a huge Aston fan. You are just paying for the badge of the Ferrari as the build quality isn't what you'd expect from that brand.
Title: Re: Don't forget Top Gear!
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 16 November 2009, 12:40:09
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and by the way, did anyone notice yet another mention of seemless dsg gear changes? By Hamster in the rarri!.....have i understood that correctly? Have they designed their own or pinched someone elses dsg?

Surprised they chose that setup as its very heavy (not good for that type of car) and the down shifts are slow.

Up-shifting should be quick as your next gear is always pre-engaged.....not so good if you do 2 quick up-shifts though.

Suprised me too. Being fiat owned and all that. Must have designed their own? Maybe they have 3 clutches? Hope the warrantys up to it.  :-/


No need to design thier own, jut buy a getrag unit (as VAG do, its not thier own) or ZF or any of the other large powertrain suppliers offerings.

A 3 clutch setup would be huge and require 3 gear sets.....trouble is, I always think Italy + Electonics = Headaches!  ;D :y
Title: Re: Don't forget Top Gear!
Post by: MV6Matt on 16 November 2009, 13:33:03
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I thought it was 58 minutes of my life wasted, TBH. The 2 minutes at the end were interesting, though. That road looked perfect. [smiley=evil.gif]

Kevin

Oh how refreshing, a like minded person! :y
it used to be mildly worth whatching but no longer

Title: Re: Don't forget Top Gear!
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 16 November 2009, 14:14:14
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I liked the Aston, V12, with a proper manual gearbox  :D

Love the car but not as a rag top, didnt look half as tasty as the ferrari for me. 

A glance at the Aston from the side as a rag top I am not sure I would recognise it straight away, where as with the the other 2 I reckon I could.
Title: Re: Don't forget Top Gear!
Post by: STMO999 on 16 November 2009, 14:47:39
It was not good. Running out of ideas.
Title: Re: Don't forget Top Gear!
Post by: Kevin Wood on 16 November 2009, 14:58:16
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It was not good. Running out of ideas.

My thoughts too. Exactly the same format. Pointless foreign trip following the usual plot, with the same overpriced cars but in a different country, as padding material to use up three quarters of the programme. Remaining quarter largely drivel. :(

I think they need some new ideas fast.

Kevin
Title: Re: Don't forget Top Gear!
Post by: bob.dent on 16 November 2009, 15:28:54
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It was not good. Running out of ideas.

My thoughts too. Exactly the same format. Pointless foreign trip following the usual plot, with the same overpriced cars but in a different country, as padding material to use up three quarters of the programme. Remaining quarter largely drivel. :(

I think they need some new ideas fast.

Kevin

The kind of format that TG have adopted over the last few years has become a bit like Marmite, you either love it or hate it - all down to personal taste Kev. I think it needs to be taken in the context that it's now an entertaiment programme despite being classified as factual.
Personally I'm a big fan but I can see why some people can be put off. ;)
Title: Re: Don't forget Top Gear!
Post by: tunnie on 16 November 2009, 15:32:44
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It was not good. Running out of ideas.

My thoughts too. Exactly the same format. Pointless foreign trip following the usual plot, with the same overpriced cars but in a different country, as padding material to use up three quarters of the programme. Remaining quarter largely drivel. :(

I think they need some new ideas fast.

Kevin

The kind of format that TG have adopted over the last few years has become a bit like Marmite, you either love it or hate it - all down to personal taste Kev. I think it needs to be taken in the context that it's now an entertaiment programme despite being classified as factual.
Personally I'm a big fan but I can see why some people can be put off. ;)

Agreed, its all staged, like Clarkson trying to see on the cardboard bog  ;D

It can't be taken too seriously, i always look forward to a new series. Compared to what else is on? Its about the best thing!
Title: Re: Don't forget Top Gear!
Post by: Kevin Wood on 16 November 2009, 16:15:08
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It was not good. Running out of ideas.

My thoughts too. Exactly the same format. Pointless foreign trip following the usual plot, with the same overpriced cars but in a different country, as padding material to use up three quarters of the programme. Remaining quarter largely drivel. :(

I think they need some new ideas fast.

Kevin

The kind of format that TG have adopted over the last few years has become a bit like Marmite, you either love it or hate it - all down to personal taste Kev. I think it needs to be taken in the context that it's now an entertaiment programme despite being classified as factual.
Personally I'm a big fan but I can see why some people can be put off. ;)

Agreed, its all staged, like Clarkson trying to see on the cardboard bog  ;D

It can't be taken too seriously, i always look forward to a new series. Compared to what else is on? Its about the best thing!

Oh, I appreciate it's not going to deliver serious motoring journalism, but even as pure entertainment I think it's run its' course.

It feels a bit like Little Britain - the same material regurgitated with minor changes. I sit there and think "oh, this'll be the "computer says no!" sketch, then!".

Then again, loads of people liked Little Britain when I thought it was complete tripe. Perhaps it's just me. :-[

Kevin
Title: Re: Don't forget Top Gear!
Post by: tunnie on 16 November 2009, 16:17:58
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It was not good. Running out of ideas.

My thoughts too. Exactly the same format. Pointless foreign trip following the usual plot, with the same overpriced cars but in a different country, as padding material to use up three quarters of the programme. Remaining quarter largely drivel. :(

I think they need some new ideas fast.

Kevin

The kind of format that TG have adopted over the last few years has become a bit like Marmite, you either love it or hate it - all down to personal taste Kev. I think it needs to be taken in the context that it's now an entertaiment programme despite being classified as factual.
Personally I'm a big fan but I can see why some people can be put off. ;)

Agreed, its all staged, like Clarkson trying to see on the cardboard bog  ;D

It can't be taken too seriously, i always look forward to a new series. Compared to what else is on? Its about the best thing!

Oh, I appreciate it's not going to deliver serious motoring journalism, but even as pure entertainment I think it's run its' course.

It feels a bit like Little Britain - the same material regurgitated with minor changes. I sit there and think "oh, this'll be the "computer says no!" sketch, then!".

Then again, loads of people liked Little Britain when I thought it was complete tripe. Perhaps it's just me. :-[

Kevin

Got my agreement there! I have sat and watched a few episodes start to finish, i was just sat there thinking wtf?
Title: Re: Don't forget Top Gear!
Post by: feeutfo on 16 November 2009, 16:26:22
BLASPHEMY!
Title: Re: Don't forget Top Gear!
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 16 November 2009, 18:16:33
So what do you all think they should do to improve the show then.

They have played in shopping malls#
Played on deserted beaches.
Tested cars on Manchester airport.
Broken reckords in getting vechicles to the North Pole.
Done the country a favour and rid of some marina's
Filled cars with water to see how far they would go.
Conted cars and tried to sail them to france and in one case succeeded.
Taught a Reliant Robin how to fly.
Landed a guy with a parachute in a convertable whilst in motion.
Not to mention thier holiday /camping escapades where they set a caravan on fire.
Plus some entertaining cross continent races.



So lets all email the show and demand they turn it into a proper car show a report all the new FWD japanese and foreign crap that hits our shores that we all truly hate and would never consider buying.


Then after a few weeks we can all sit on here and complain about what we miss about top geareven though we mostly agree it was all totally OTT, as lets face it, who in thier right might would test a Toyata Hi-Lux to destrcuction just for the fun of it and plant a field full of seed to to refine thier own fuel.
Title: Re: Don't forget Top Gear!
Post by: Gaffers on 16 November 2009, 18:17:34
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I thought it was 58 minutes of my life wasted, TBH. The 2 minutes at the end were interesting, though. That road looked perfect. [smiley=evil.gif]

Kevin

Oh how refreshing, a like minded person! :y
it used to be mildly worth whatching but no longer


Thirded, ended up surfing on OOF halfway through....