Omega Owners Forum

Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: cam2502 on 18 November 2009, 12:55:56

Title: So..what do you think?
Post by: cam2502 on 18 November 2009, 12:55:56
Starting new thread as dont want to hijack another.....Having just watched Holtenders clip and thread it begs the BIG question.............ARE WE ALONE??? :-/
In my opinion...we  CANT be. There MUST be other "life" out there?
 They're discovering new planets/galaxys/ universes all the time. The law of averages says we cant be alone. So wise people of OOF....whats your thoughts on this?
Title: Re: So..what do you think?
Post by: Lazydocker on 18 November 2009, 12:58:45
IMHO it's incredibly arrogant for us to assume we are alone in the universe... Ther must be something/someone else out there :y :y
Title: Re: So..what do you think?
Post by: Welung666 on 18 November 2009, 13:02:29
I agree, using the laws of probability it is highly unlikely 'we' are the only intelligent (and I use that term very loosely for the vast majority of humanity) life in the vast expanse of space. Perhaps they know we're here but are to disgusted in how we run our planet to even bother talking to us ;D ;D
Title: Re: So..what do you think?
Post by: cam2502 on 18 November 2009, 13:09:15
Quote
I agree, using the laws of probability it is highly unlikely 'we' are the only intelligent (and I use that term very loosely for the vast majority of humanity) life in the vast expanse of space. Perhaps they know we're here but are to disgusted in how we run our planet to even bother talking to us ;D ;D
ask yourself....would you want to pop by and say hello?
Title: Re: So..what do you think?
Post by: threppence on 18 November 2009, 13:10:09
I would like to think there is other life out there.Imagine if in the whole universe there is just our little insignificant planet that sustains life.
Our own galaxy is 10's of thousand of light years across, just this 1 galaxy and there are probably billions of others out there so like you say law of averages and probability indicate there should be other life forms.
The chances of discovery though are infinitessimaly small, we've only been producing elctromagnetic waves for a 100 years or so, so even our intelligent proof of life hasn't even gotten out the back yard so to speak let alone into the vast reaches of space to be discovered by a sufficiently advance life form able to measure and interpret it.
I feel really small now.
Title: Re: So..what do you think?
Post by: Welung666 on 18 November 2009, 13:10:28
Quote
Quote
I agree, using the laws of probability it is highly unlikely 'we' are the only intelligent (and I use that term very loosely for the vast majority of humanity) life in the vast expanse of space. Perhaps they know we're here but are to disgusted in how we run our planet to even bother talking to us ;D ;D
ask yourself....would you want to pop by and say hello?

HELL NO ;D ;D ;D I'd look the other way and pretend I'd not seen them/us ;D ;D
Title: Re: So..what do you think?
Post by: Richie London on 18 November 2009, 13:23:08
Quote
Quote
I agree, using the laws of probability it is highly unlikely 'we' are the only intelligent (and I use that term very loosely for the vast majority of humanity) life in the vast expanse of space. Perhaps they know we're here but are to disgusted in how we run our planet to even bother talking to us ;D ;D
ask yourself....would you want to pop by and say hello?


not if bob geldofs gonna ask you to join in the next xmas song for africa your not
Title: Re: So..what do you think?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 18 November 2009, 13:40:23
Quote
I would like to think there is other life out there.Imagine if in the whole universe there is just our little insignificant planet that sustains life.
Our own galaxy is 10's of thousand of light years across, just this 1 galaxy and there are probably billions of others out there so like you say law of averages and probability indicate there should be other life forms.
The chances of discovery though are infinitessimaly small, we've only been producing elctromagnetic waves for a 100 years or so, so even our intelligent proof of life hasn't even gotten out the back yard so to speak let alone into the vast reaches of space to be discovered by a sufficiently advance life form able to measure and interpret it.
I feel really small now.

..........wormholes
we just need to link a few of these together......in order .....to travel in different dimensions in space and time........simples.... : ::) ::) ::) :y
Title: Re: So..what do you think?
Post by: Ken L on 18 November 2009, 13:59:39
Ah! I see another Stargate SG1 fan! ::)
Title: Re: So..what do you think?
Post by: STMO999 on 18 November 2009, 14:45:02
Quote
Quote
I would like to think there is other life out there.Imagine if in the whole universe there is just our little insignificant planet that sustains life.
Our own galaxy is 10's of thousand of light years across, just this 1 galaxy and there are probably billions of others out there so like you say law of averages and probability indicate there should be other life forms.
The chances of discovery though are infinitessimaly small, we've only been producing elctromagnetic waves for a 100 years or so, so even our intelligent proof of life hasn't even gotten out the back yard so to speak let alone into the vast reaches of space to be discovered by a sufficiently advance life form able to measure and interpret it.
I feel really small now.

..........wormholes
we just need to link a few of these together......in order .....to travel in different dimensions in space and time........simples.... : ::) ::) ::) :y

I've got loads in my garden if you want to borrow some.
Title: Re: So..what do you think?
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 18 November 2009, 15:49:54
Quote
Quote
Quote
I agree, using the laws of probability it is highly unlikely 'we' are the only intelligent (and I use that term very loosely for the vast majority of humanity) life in the vast expanse of space. Perhaps they know we're here but are to disgusted in how we run our planet to even bother talking to us ;D ;D
ask yourself....would you want to pop by and say hello?


not if bob geldofs gonna ask you to join in the next xmas song for africa your not



 ;D ;D ;D splendid Richie  ;D ;D :y
Title: Re: So..what do you think?
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 18 November 2009, 15:56:14
Quote
Starting new thread as dont want to hijack another.....Having just watched Holtenders clip and thread it begs the BIG question.............ARE WE ALONE??? :-/
In my opinion...we  CANT be. There MUST be other "life" out there?
 They're discovering new planets/galaxys/ universes all the time. The law of averages says we cant be alone. So wise people of OOF....whats your thoughts on this?



A great question Cam - if we're not alone in this universe we certainly deserve to be ;)

Good sense must suggest however that it's reasonable to suspect other forms of life - sentient or otherwise - to be abound in the vastness of space.
Title: Re: So..what do you think?
Post by: Ghost on 18 November 2009, 16:02:32
I used to have a work mate that had ears like Mr Spock.
Apart from that dont you know about ET? [smiley=evil.gif] [smiley=evil.gif] [smiley=evil.gif]
Title: Re: So..what do you think?
Post by: jereboam on 18 November 2009, 16:27:31
Relativity places a limit on the speed at which we can travel.  I seem to remember that it also limits the speed at which information can be transferred.  And the nearest places where we are likely to encounter other beings are quite a long way away. :(

But that's not the problem.  The universe is believed to be about 14 billion years old.  Humanity has been around for a mere 10,000 years or so.  Even if we endure in recognisable form for another 100,000 years (unlikely), and assume that that is about average for a race history, that is such a tiny fraction of the history of the universe that we probably wouldn't be noticed.  We'd have to exist simultaneously with a race of similar technology which is sufficiently near to us to communicate in some way. :(

I use the word "race" to avoid using the word "civilisation".  :)

Of course, relativity is probably not the whole story.  No theory ever is. :) :)

Title: Re: So..what do you think?
Post by: bob.dent on 18 November 2009, 16:30:55
Quote
IMHO it's incredibly arrogant for us to assume we are alone in the universe... Ther must be something/someone else out there :y :y

Agreed Paul and lets face it, look at the diversity of different forms of life on our own planet, so as you say, it would be arrogant to think no life in any form exists elsewhere in the universe. At the moment, we still know less about what lives in the depths of our own oceans than we know about space.
Title: Re: So..what do you think?
Post by: Lazydocker on 18 November 2009, 16:39:56
Quote
Quote
IMHO it's incredibly arrogant for us to assume we are alone in the universe... There must be something/someone else out there :y :y

Agreed Paul and lets face it, look at the diversity of different forms of life on our own planet, so as you say, it would be arrogant to think no life in any form exists elsewhere in the universe. At the moment, we still know less about what lives in the depths of our own oceans than we know about space.

How true! In fact... I still struggle to make sense of some of the people life forms on the surface! ;) ;)
Title: Re: So..what do you think?
Post by: Varche on 18 November 2009, 18:02:09
Yes beyond doubt as the universe is infinite as far as we can make out. I love the fact that despite prophessing to be so clever we know diddly squat about what is past the last thing we know about in space.

Won't be long before our space debris and pollution reaches other life if it hasn't already. However unless they have mastered travel over vast unimaginable distances then they won't be coming to see us anytime soon. If they have mastered it then the chances are they have been and been totally unimpressed with how we manage our planet and cleared off to somewhere more "civilised".

Varche