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Title: LPG .. :)
Post by: Entwood on 26 October 2009, 21:26:01
Price of petrol has been creeping up around here .. today reached 108.9 p/ltr :(  LPG went up last month to 55.09 p/ltr

Over the whole 17 months of LPG the average saving is 8.89 p/mile.

Over the past 2 months the average saving is 10.02 p/mile

Todays tankful the saving was  11.38 p/mile

I is still a happy bunny  :)
Title: Re: LPG .. :)
Post by: tunnie on 26 October 2009, 21:32:50
LPG is 57p here  :(
Title: Re: LPG .. :)
Post by: feeutfo on 26 October 2009, 21:35:09
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Price of petrol has been creeping up around here .. today reached 108.9 p/ltr :(  LPG went up last month to 55.09 p/ltr

Over the whole 17 months of LPG the average saving is 8.89 p/mile.

Over the past 2 months the average saving is 10.02 p/mile

Todays tankful the saving was  11.38 p/mile

I is still a happy bunny  :)
I is too, init? :-)
Title: Re: LPG .. :)
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 26 October 2009, 21:35:35
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Price of petrol has been creeping up around here .. today reached 108.9 p/ltr :(  LPG went up last month to 55.09 p/ltr

Over the whole 17 months of LPG the average saving is 8.89 p/mile.

Over the past 2 months the average saving is 10.02 p/mile

Todays tankful the saving was  11.38 p/mile

I is still a happy bunny  :)


Nige, do you have any idea how much you have saved yourself converting to gas?
Title: Re: LPG .. :)
Post by: PhilRich on 26 October 2009, 21:42:55
Yes nige' could you let us know how much your LPG system cost? did you fit it yourself or was it already in the car when you bought it? :y
Title: Re: LPG .. :)
Post by: Entwood on 26 October 2009, 21:43:08
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Price of petrol has been creeping up around here .. today reached 108.9 p/ltr :(  LPG went up last month to 55.09 p/ltr

Over the whole 17 months of LPG the average saving is 8.89 p/mile.

Over the past 2 months the average saving is 10.02 p/mile

Todays tankful the saving was  11.38 p/mile

I is still a happy bunny  :)


Nige, do you have any idea how much you have saved yourself converting to gas?

On fuel running costs the estimated saving to date is £1619.13p

As I paid for a professional install (£2173) rather than DIY I still have an estimated 6920 miles to do before the conversion has "paid for itself" as some folks look at it, however I factored the conversion cost into the purchase price and  prefer to look at it as saving me £100 ish a month  !!

And since I retired my mileage has dropped considerably, I'm now only doing around 800 miles a month, it used to be nearer 1200.

:)
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Post by: PhilRich on 26 October 2009, 21:45:31
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Price of petrol has been creeping up around here .. today reached 108.9 p/ltr :(  LPG went up last month to 55.09 p/ltr

Over the whole 17 months of LPG the average saving is 8.89 p/mile.

Over the past 2 months the average saving is 10.02 p/mile

Todays tankful the saving was  11.38 p/mile

I is still a happy bunny  :)


Nige, do you have any idea how much you have saved yourself converting to gas?

On fuel running costs the estimated saving to date is £1619.13p

As I paid for a professional install (£2173) rather than DIY I still have an estimated 6920 miles to do before the conversion has "paid for itself" as some folks look at it, however I factored the conversion cost into the purchase price and  prefer to look at it as saving me £100 ish a month  !!

:)


Must learn to type faster LOL, thanks for that nige' it has given me serious food for thought mate :y
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Post by: feeutfo on 26 October 2009, 23:27:41
if fitted diy, can be done for 7 to £800 last i heard, depending on the tank you want. Smaller donut tanks(teroidal), being more expensive than the bigger capacity cylinders along the back seats.

Hth
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Post by: Lazydocker on 27 October 2009, 00:01:32
I reckon I've now saved myself over £1000, after paying back the kit costs :y :y :y

I is a very happy bunny ::) ::) ;) ;)
Title: Re: LPG .. :)
Post by: Entwood on 27 October 2009, 00:02:50
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I reckon I've now saved myself over £1000, after paying back the kit costs :y :y :y

I is a very happy bunny ::) ::) ;) ;)


You is also a clever bunny ... capable of DIY install .. I know/knew my limits !!!! and have no regrets at all ..  :)
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Post by: Lazydocker on 27 October 2009, 00:11:49
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I reckon I've now saved myself over £1000, after paying back the kit costs :y :y :y

I is a very happy bunny ::) ::) ;) ;)


You is also a clever bunny ... capable of DIY install .. I know/knew my limits !!!! and have no regrets at all ..  :)

Why thank you ::) ::) :-[ :-[

It's easy when you know a little, but I wouldn't recommend it to someone who isn't confident with a spanner :y :y
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Post by: Kevin Wood on 27 October 2009, 00:15:29
Well, petrol has topped 110p/Litre here now... and I'm still buying LPG for 53.9. :D

Kevin
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Post by: Lazydocker on 27 October 2009, 00:24:07
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Well, petrol has topped 110p/Litre here now... and I'm still buying LPG for 53.9. :D

Kevin

I normally pay 55.9, but if I made the effort to do the 20 mile (or so) round trip to Ipswich I'd pay 51.9, perhaps 53.9.

I just can't be bothered to waste over an hour of my day ::) ::)
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Post by: feeutfo on 27 October 2009, 01:18:40
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Well, petrol has topped 110p/Litre here now... and I'm still buying LPG for 53.9. :D

Kevin

I normally pay 55.9, but if I made the effort to do the 20 mile (or so) round trip to Ipswich I'd pay 51.9, perhaps 53.9.

I just can't be bothered to waste over an hour of my day ::) ::)
And waiste more than the saving getting there and back i guess?

Yep, all comes into it. Price aside, if your nearest lpg station is 15 miles in the wrong direction 30miles each fill up is waisted.

Lpg needs to be a bit more widespread imho, and finding it needs to be alot easier, cornwall was a joke tbh. Found one in the end but most of the map icons down there where out of date, really need to ring ahead and check the outlet exists first off, when they are open, and if they still stock it, and that they havent sold out.
 Each of the 4 or 5 outlets near me have run out when i've called at some stage, but at least i could pop over to the next nearest. We are lucky in Reading in that respect.


Having said that JamesHoleinblock mentioned his Asda has lpg. How come the one at the end of my road doesnt stock it? :-( .....and can i have the moon on a stick please while i'm at it. Ta ;D
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Post by: omegod on 27 October 2009, 19:05:29
So me paying 46p a litre is a really happy bunny too!! :)

Bought mine already converted and paid the same as a conventional petrol model was worth!
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Post by: Stevie-blunder on 27 October 2009, 22:00:08
51p round here  :y
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Post by: Mr Skrunts on 27 October 2009, 22:16:39
Very interesting thread.  Certainly not worth me pating for a conversion with me only doing 3/6000 miles a year.

But if a suitably peiced car was ever offered to me that had the LPG conversion I would seriously consider it after reading the above.
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Post by: cruisetopoland on 27 October 2009, 22:30:04
A few points re: LPG conversions:-

1/ Insurers must be notified of modification and premium usually rises
2/ less equivalent mpg compared to petrol-less efficient combustion
3/ nearest LPG station can be miles away
4/ not permitted in Euro-Tunnel
5/ kits are not crash tested (especially rear end shunt)
6/ emergency services wary of burning LPG car-great if you are in it
7/ kits can deteriorate over time
8/ takes up space in boot, replaces spare wheel or is vulnerable under car

On balance, great idea-but too many factors for me....
Could do with the economy, though  ;)
Title: Re: LPG .. :)
Post by: Entwood on 27 October 2009, 22:53:21
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A few points re: LPG conversions:-

1/ Insurers must be notified of modification and premium usually rises
2/ less equivalent mpg compared to petrol-less efficient combustion
3/ nearest LPG station can be miles away
4/ not permitted in Euro-Tunnel
5/ kits are not crash tested (especially rear end shunt)
6/ emergency services wary of burning LPG car-great if you are in it
7/ kits can deteriorate over time
8/ takes up space in boot, replaces spare wheel or is vulnerable under car

On balance, great idea-but too many factors for me....
Could do with the economy, though  ;)


In answer :)

1. My Insurers are aware and the premium is no different, but I save on annual road tax as well.

2. mpg is not the only measure ... cost per mile (pence/mile) is a far better method and actually reflects what happens to your wallet. It is nowt to do with less efficient combustion, actually LPG is more efficient and has a higher octane rating... :)  All engines actually burn a MASS (weight [number of molecules]) of fuel, not a volume, and LPG is lighter than petrol so a "gallon" (litre) weighs less, so contains less MASS.. we are forced to buy by volume as thats how it's sold .. :(

3. So can petrol stations at reasonable prices. (check out the only petrol station in marlborough) The availability of LPG is variable but not rare

4. So how many times do you use the tunnel ?? I go to France annually and prefer the ferry ..  :)

5. If a rear end shunt reaches far enough forward to damage the tank .. the car has been totalled, and probably all the occupants anyway

6. Not heard of that one .. and they deal with caravans with gas bottles anyway.

7. So does your whole car. The only "consumables" are the rubber pipes and the filters, no different to the petrol side of a car, and the oil remains much cleaner anyway ..

8. Agreed, but how often do you actually "fill" your boot ?? For the few occasions I really need the "missing" space, roofbars and a "top box" is more than big enough.

If you don't want it, don't do it .. but at £100 a month savings IMHO it is worth considering.

:)

edited for smelling pistakes .. :)
Title: Re: LPG .. :)
Post by: cruisetopoland on 27 October 2009, 23:03:34
Well responded  :y

£100 per month not to be sniffed at....real world saving is key point, not mpg.

I have considered it before, but insurers wanted extra £65pa, our nearest LPG is miles away and I have been in a few heavy bumps (not my doing!) and was glad not to be LPG-especially the rear ender in which a "donut" tank would have been screwed or would have been pushed through into the cabin.

Big hoo-hah recently down here when LPG pipe leaked on 4x4 at Morrisons car-park and they closed it while the fire brigade dealt with it-front page story in our local rag-the old system had deteriorated.

Know a few paramedics,fire fighters etc and they are trained to be "very aware" of LPG-they will isolate a caravan, try to cool it down from a distance and cordon off the area.  A caravan can burn, but COME AND GET ME OUT of my LPG car!!!

Interesting point about the tax-not thought of that.

Still not convinced  :-/

Title: Re: LPG .. :)
Post by: Lazydocker on 28 October 2009, 00:01:31
I agree with Entwoods comments thus far but to add (In Italics)

Well responded  :y

£100 per month not to be sniffed at....real world saving is key point, not mpg. Varies person to person... I have already saved well over £1000 since recouping my costs

I have considered it before, but insurers wanted extra £65pa, our nearest LPG is miles away and I have been in a few heavy bumps (not my doing!) and was glad not to be LPG-especially the rear ender in which a "donut" tank would have been screwed or would have been pushed through into the cabin. Change your insurer then... There are plenty that don't charge extra, some even give a discount now as the systems are tested to a higher standad than petrol systems

Big hoo-hah recently down here when LPG pipe leaked on 4x4 at Morrisons car-park and they closed it while the fire brigade dealt with it-front page story in our local rag-the old system had deteriorated. Poor maintenance on the owners part... Happens regularly with petrol systems but don't get the coverage as not something different ::) ::)

Know a few paramedics,fire fighters etc and they are trained to be "very aware" of LPG-they will isolate a caravan, try to cool it down from a distance and cordon off the area.  A caravan can burn, but COME AND GET ME OUT of my LPG car!!!
They would never stand by and watch someone burn ::) ::)
I've been called by the Fire Service to a petrol car on fire with a ruptured fuel tank (It actually melted in one spot) and that was a lot more dangerous than a autogas tank... Trust me, I saw what happens!

Interesting point about the tax-not thought of that.

Still not convinced  :-/
Each to their own :y :y

And some additional info...

5) Kits have been crash tested... If the engine stops, so does the LPG, at the tank! If there is a sudden release of pressure from a ruptured line, the Tank shuts off... Something which isn't normally true of petrol.
The tanks are tested to an enormous pressure and impact and will withstand an impact with a freight train at full speed without rupturing... Again, not true of petrol tanks!

As Nige' has said... If you don't want it then it's entirely up to you, but to me the savings have been fantastic... Especially now, with petrol increasing at a great rate and LPG (put simply) isn't! Add to that the "green" element (if that's your sort of thing) and the fact that I run a big comfy armchair, without sparing the horses, for about the same as it costs to run SWMBO's brand new Fiat Panda and IMO it's a winner :y :y :y
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Post by: feeutfo on 28 October 2009, 00:13:40
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Well responded  :y

£100 per month not to be sniffed at....real world saving is key point, not mpg.

I have considered it before, but insurers wanted extra £65pa, our nearest LPG is miles away and I have been in a few heavy bumps (not my doing!) and was glad not to be LPG-especially the rear ender in which a "donut" tank would have been screwed or would have been pushed through into the cabin.

Big hoo-hah recently down here when LPG pipe leaked on 4x4 at Morrisons car-park and they closed it while the fire brigade dealt with it-front page story in our local rag-the old system had deteriorated.

Know a few paramedics,fire fighters etc and they are trained to be "very aware" of LPG-they will isolate a caravan, try to cool it down from a distance and cordon off the area.  A caravan can burn, but COME AND GET ME OUT of my LPG car!!!

Interesting point about the tax-not thought of that.

Still not convinced  :-/

during my safety certificate saga with direct line, i phoned round several insurance companys, not one added a premium if certified, and all would refuse point blank if not.....direct line added the modification for free, once i told them thier own rules, muppets. :y
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Post by: Lazydocker on 28 October 2009, 00:27:17
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Well responded  :y

£100 per month not to be sniffed at....real world saving is key point, not mpg.

I have considered it before, but insurers wanted extra £65pa, our nearest LPG is miles away and I have been in a few heavy bumps (not my doing!) and was glad not to be LPG-especially the rear ender in which a "donut" tank would have been screwed or would have been pushed through into the cabin.

Big hoo-hah recently down here when LPG pipe leaked on 4x4 at Morrisons car-park and they closed it while the fire brigade dealt with it-front page story in our local rag-the old system had deteriorated.

Know a few paramedics,fire fighters etc and they are trained to be "very aware" of LPG-they will isolate a caravan, try to cool it down from a distance and cordon off the area.  A caravan can burn, but COME AND GET ME OUT of my LPG car!!!

Interesting point about the tax-not thought of that.

Still not convinced  :-/

during my safety certificate saga with direct line, i phoned round several insurance companys, not one added a premium if certified, and all would refuse point blank if not.....direct line added the modification for free, once i told them thier own rules, muppets. :y

Not all... The RR wasn't certified and neither is the Mig, yet. Been inspected (of sorts) by the supplier and is safe but waiting on the LPGA paperwork. Swiftcover is certainly a company who don't charge more and just require it to be professionally installed.... I used to work as a mechanic so it's a professional installation (confirmed by them :y)

And anyway... I've only seen 1 "Professional" installers work which meets my standards ::) ::)
Title: Re: LPG .. :)
Post by: Kevin Wood on 28 October 2009, 00:27:59
Why are people so paranoid about LPG tanks being damaged?

1) They are far stronger than petrol tanks (plastic on an Omega) :o
2) You'd be doing very well to fit it in a more vulnerable position than the petrol tank in an Omega (not that far behind the rear bumper)
3) Yes, it's under pressure, so the first few seconds after a total rupture (unlikely, given its' strength) would be more exciting but after that it's the same as a petrol tank - a mass of liquid giving off a flammable vapour - the LPG would just be at -40 degrees C.
4) LPG Tanks have relief valves by law which control the rate at which the fuel can escape if in a fire. What controls the rate at which petrol can escape form a plastic tank in a fire?

I have no worries about carrying a tank of LPG around. Especially at half the price of petrol. ;)

Kevin
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Post by: davethediver on 28 October 2009, 00:30:42
SO who on the site is doing DIY instalations and could they PM me with details. Im currently doing somewhere in the region og 2500 - 4000 miles a month s i really don't think it will take that long to start saving :) :)
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Post by: Kevin Wood on 28 October 2009, 00:33:22
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SO who on the site is doing DIY instalations and could they PM me with details. Im currently doing somewhere in the region og 2500 - 4000 miles a month s i really don't think it will take that long to start saving :) :)

Here are some pictures of my install for starters. :y

£700 for a kit with everything required. 2 Weekends to fit. 7-10p a mile saving thereafter.

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1216678718

EDIT: Cheaper for a 4 pot as you only need 4 injector channels.

Kevin
Title: Re: LPG .. :)
Post by: Entwood on 28 October 2009, 00:35:08
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SO who on the site is doing DIY instalations and could they PM me with details. Im currently doing somewhere in the region og 2500 - 4000 miles a month s i really don't think it will take that long to start saving :) :)

lazydocker will contact you very quickly I expect !!!

a DIY is about £700 I think and if good at spannering takes a long weekend. Kevin and others used to do a sort of "exchange" system on a drilled inlet manifold .. don't know if that is still around.

The reason I went "expensive (non DIY)" was simply lack of confidence/ability ... but I am still well pleased.
Title: Re: LPG .. :)
Post by: Tony H on 28 October 2009, 00:46:14
On the subject of damage to the gas tank in a crash I think a flimsey petrol tank is more likely to rupture than a gas tank that is designed and fabricated to withstand the high pressures associated with containing LPG
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Post by: feeutfo on 28 October 2009, 07:55:02
the guy who certified my install mentioned that tanks are designed to withstand a 30G impact.

The exchange manifold is off a v6. 4 pot manifold much easier to drill i would think?

Lazydocker, Kevin Wood, Jamesholeinblock, and others have all fitted their kits diy. With their help and advise i was able to do mine in a couple of weekends total work time. Just took a bit longer thinking about mine.  ::)
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Post by: cruisetopoland on 28 October 2009, 09:07:03
Thanks for the responses.  I looked into this in detail a few years back and decided against it at the time, but things may have changed.  Some compelling reasons why to on here now, though  ::)

I think the crux of the matter is the quality of the installation and making sure it is properly certificated-then many of the issues don't seem to apply  ;D

If it solves the "weapon of mass consumption" issue safely and without additional other costs, it would appear to make the Omega an ideal car...comfy, quiet, zero depreciation and reasonable running costs.  The only real bugbear with my car is the 30mpg.....

Cheers, all  ;)



Title: Re: LPG .. :)
Post by: Kevin Wood on 28 October 2009, 10:35:20
I bought my Omega 2 years and 9 months ago.

I reckon fuel costs on LPG are currently about the same as my previous car was on petrol when I sold it.

So, I have gone from a 100bhp 1.8 8v manual fwd Renault Laguna with no air con to a 218bhp 3.2 24v automatic rwd Omega with climate control for no increase in fuel cost over nearly 3 years.  :y

Kevin
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Post by: Stevie-blunder on 28 October 2009, 18:43:14
I had an articulated lorry slam into the side of my 1st Rolls Royce 5 years ago right where the "full" lpg tank was, didn't even dent it, the Rolls was written off though.  :(
Title: Re: LPG .. :)
Post by: feeutfo on 28 October 2009, 19:07:59
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I bought my Omega 2 years and 9 months ago.

I reckon fuel costs on LPG are currently about the same as my previous car was on petrol when I sold it.

So, I have gone from a 100bhp 1.8 8v manual fwd Renault Laguna with no air con to a 218bhp 3.2 24v automatic rwd Omega with climate control for no increase in fuel cost over nearly 3 years.  :y

Kevin

Nail    On    Head!
Its not purely about economy. We could all go out and buy a punto or some other bra burning roller skate and save on fuel, or lpg that as well and save even more. But who wants to drive around in one of them?

A bloke pulled up next to me on the other lpg pump in some korean shoe box, looked, smiled, and said £20 does me all week. I thought, yeah, but look at it, do they make a size 13uk in leather? You could have got 2 of them in an Omega. Bless him, but what ever blows your skirt up as they say. :-)




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Post by: zirax on 28 October 2009, 21:00:04
Before I got the Omega I was looking around at what diesel mile munchers there were. Usual suspects being a derv mondeo or a pug. Neither of these really fitted the bill as although they could do the miles, I had to put up with a derv engines small powerband. Also what is it with people and never bothering to service their cars?? (That's another story).

Came across the 2.6 omega for sale on here and it did already have LPG installed. For the first couple of weeks I was running on Petrol and it was costing about £110-120 a week. Since running on LPG I think it's costing about £65-70 per week. I'll have to dig out the bills to be really accurate but that is the ballpark figures. I am doing around 700 miles /wk.

I am a convert and the next motor in a good few years will either be a v6 or v8 running LPG. Either self install or buying one that has already had the work done.

Should say that with the LPG you can scare the wits out of the person next to you on the pumps. Normally it's the big burly builders filling up their transit that jump the most :D
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Post by: Lazydocker on 28 October 2009, 21:22:18
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SO who on the site is doing DIY instalations and could they PM me with details. Im currently doing somewhere in the region og 2500 - 4000 miles a month s i really don't think it will take that long to start saving :) :)

PM Sent ::) :y
Title: Re: LPG .. :)
Post by: Entwood on 28 October 2009, 21:42:47
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SO who on the site is doing DIY instalations and could they PM me with details. Im currently doing somewhere in the region og 2500 - 4000 miles a month s i really don't think it will take that long to start saving :) :)

lazydocker will contact you very quickly I expect !!!

a DIY is about £700 I think and if good at spannering takes a long weekend. Kevin and others used to do a sort of "exchange" system on a drilled inlet manifold .. don't know if that is still around.

The reason I went "expensive (non DIY)" was simply lack of confidence/ability ... but I am still well pleased.




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SO who on the site is doing DIY instalations and could they PM me with details. Im currently doing somewhere in the region og 2500 - 4000 miles a month s i really don't think it will take that long to start saving :) :)

PM Sent ::) :y

Took your time didn't you ????

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Post by: Lazydocker on 28 October 2009, 22:34:28
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SO who on the site is doing DIY instalations and could they PM me with details. Im currently doing somewhere in the region og 2500 - 4000 miles a month s i really don't think it will take that long to start saving :) :)

lazydocker will contact you very quickly I expect !!!

a DIY is about £700 I think and if good at spannering takes a long weekend. Kevin and others used to do a sort of "exchange" system on a drilled inlet manifold .. don't know if that is still around.

The reason I went "expensive (non DIY)" was simply lack of confidence/ability ... but I am still well pleased.




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SO who on the site is doing DIY instalations and could they PM me with details. Im currently doing somewhere in the region og 2500 - 4000 miles a month s i really don't think it will take that long to start saving :) :)

PM Sent ::) :y

Took your time didn't you ????

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Was unfortunately surfing on my phone earlier (as some of us still have to work!) and it's just a bit of a pain ::) ::)

Thought I still had a copy of the pre-prepared PM saved but I didn't :( :( :'( :'(
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Post by: rob in gib on 28 October 2009, 22:42:42
Sorry to rub it in guys and ladies

unleaded 67p ltr so wont be converting soon 8-)
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Post by: davethediver on 28 October 2009, 23:25:12
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SO who on the site is doing DIY instalations and could they PM me with details. Im currently doing somewhere in the region og 2500 - 4000 miles a month s i really don't think it will take that long to start saving :) :)

lazydocker will contact you very quickly I expect !!!

a DIY is about £700 I think and if good at spannering takes a long weekend. Kevin and others used to do a sort of "exchange" system on a drilled inlet manifold .. don't know if that is still around.

The reason I went "expensive (non DIY)" was simply lack of confidence/ability ... but I am still well pleased.




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SO who on the site is doing DIY instalations and could they PM me with details. Im currently doing somewhere in the region og 2500 - 4000 miles a month s i really don't think it will take that long to start saving :) :)

PM Sent ::) :y

Took your time didn't you ????

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Was unfortunately surfing on my phone earlier (as some of us still have to work!) and it's just a bit of a pain ::) ::)

Thought I still had a copy of the pre-prepared PM saved but I didn't :( :( :'( :'(


And replied :y
Title: Re: LPG .. :)
Post by: cruisetopoland on 07 November 2009, 16:42:30
After all my whinging, I have heard many good cases for doing the conversion on here-the best being that they are safer than the petrol supply.

I do 1200+ miles a month, so how long would it take to cover the cost of the kit and fitting?
I have a 3000 mile trip coming soon...
How much boot space does it take up?
How much for a decent fitted conversion?

Advice appreciated  :y
Title: Re: LPG .. :)
Post by: Martin_1962 on 07 November 2009, 19:55:20
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After all my whinging, I have heard many good cases for doing the conversion on here-the best being that they are safer than the petrol supply.

I do 1200+ miles a month, so how long would it take to cover the cost of the kit and fitting?
I have a 3000 mile trip coming soon...
How much boot space does it take up?
How much for a decent fitted conversion?

Advice appreciated  :y


I am saving about 70 or so a month at the moment!
Title: Re: LPG .. :)
Post by: cruisetopoland on 19 November 2009, 09:18:17
Thought long and hard aobut this now and more convinced as petrol costs slowly bankrupting me and have two 3,000 mile Europe trips in the pipeline....

How much on a 2.2?
Where?
How?

 :y

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Post by: Lazydocker on 19 November 2009, 10:20:24
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Thought long and hard aobut this now and more convinced as petrol costs slowly bankrupting me and have two 3,000 mile Europe trips in the pipeline....

How much on a 2.2?
Where?
How?

 :y


Depends.... If you can DIY I reckon you'd do it for under £700, whichever tank option you chose. You also need to budget about £20 for some filler adapters for your foreign trips. I bought mine from a French Motorway service station as it was cheaper (then) than UK suppliers.

If you have it "Professionally" installed, be careful! Expect £1500+..

You need to bear these questions in mind:

Saloon or estate?

Cylinder tank or spare wheel?
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Post by: cruisetopoland on 19 November 2009, 10:36:55
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Thought long and hard aobut this now and more convinced as petrol costs slowly bankrupting me and have two 3,000 mile Europe trips in the pipeline....

How much on a 2.2?
Where?
How?

 :y


Depends.... If you can DIY I reckon you'd do it for under £700, whichever tank option you chose. You also need to budget about £20 for some filler adapters for your foreign trips. I bought mine from a French Motorway service station as it was cheaper (then) than UK suppliers.

If you have it "Professionally" installed, be careful! Expect £1500+..

You need to bear these questions in mind:

Saloon or estate?

Cylinder tank or spare wheel?

Thanks for response.  I am fairly handy and could assist an installation but would not want to do it wholly by myself-plus I would need the certificate for insurers.

My car is a saloon and I am not sure which tank would be best as we need a spare wheel and the boot space!!

What are the pros and cons?

Really, we would be robbing Peter to pay Paul so no chance of pro-install.  Was thinking of maybe some secondhand bits and news bits where needed and doing a cash deal with a club member if anyone fancies a visit to sunny (!) Leominster?  ;D ;D
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Post by: Lazydocker on 19 November 2009, 10:45:31
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Thought long and hard aobut this now and more convinced as petrol costs slowly bankrupting me and have two 3,000 mile Europe trips in the pipeline....

How much on a 2.2?
Where?
How?

 :y


Depends.... If you can DIY I reckon you'd do it for under £700, whichever tank option you chose. You also need to budget about £20 for some filler adapters for your foreign trips. I bought mine from a French Motorway service station as it was cheaper (then) than UK suppliers.

If you have it "Professionally" installed, be careful! Expect £1500+..

You need to bear these questions in mind:

Saloon or estate?

Cylinder tank or spare wheel?

Thanks for response.  I am fairly handy and could assist an installation but would not want to do it wholly by myself-plus I would need the certificate for insurers.

My car is a saloon and I am not sure which tank would be best as we need a spare wheel and the boot space!!

What are the pros and cons?

Really, we would be robbing Peter to pay Paul so no chance of pro-install.  Was thinking of maybe some secondhand bits and news bits where needed and doing a cash deal with a club member if anyone fancies a visit to sunny (!) Leominster?  ;D ;D

Personally I wouldn't buy a kit from anywhere other than the supplier I have details for. As Tunnie is finding out, the other suppliers don't supply a full kit  ::) ::) As for second hand.... Perhaps a tank, if it was cheap enough, but I wouldn't bother with anything else.

I'm happy to help anyone out with a conversion but my time is at a premium at the moment, and will be until after Christmas, so I wouldn't commit to helping until the new year.

As for tank options... Cylinder tanks are cheaper and can be larger than spare wheel replacements but take up nearly half of the boot space. It's all your decision TBH

Title: Re: LPG .. :)
Post by: tunnie on 19 November 2009, 10:47:18
yeah, kinda wish i did now, but it seemed cheap  :-/
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Post by: cruisetopoland on 19 November 2009, 10:54:38
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Thought long and hard aobut this now and more convinced as petrol costs slowly bankrupting me and have two 3,000 mile Europe trips in the pipeline....

How much on a 2.2?
Where?
How?

 :y


Depends.... If you can DIY I reckon you'd do it for under £700, whichever tank option you chose. You also need to budget about £20 for some filler adapters for your foreign trips. I bought mine from a French Motorway service station as it was cheaper (then) than UK suppliers.

If you have it "Professionally" installed, be careful! Expect £1500+..

You need to bear these questions in mind:

Saloon or estate?

Cylinder tank or spare wheel?

Thanks for response.  I am fairly handy and could assist an installation but would not want to do it wholly by myself-plus I would need the certificate for insurers.

My car is a saloon and I am not sure which tank would be best as we need a spare wheel and the boot space!!

What are the pros and cons?

Really, we would be robbing Peter to pay Paul so no chance of pro-install.  Was thinking of maybe some secondhand bits and news bits where needed and doing a cash deal with a club member if anyone fancies a visit to sunny (!) Leominster?  ;D ;D

Personally I wouldn't buy a kit from anywhere other than the supplier I have details for. As Tunnie is finding out, the other suppliers don't supply a full kit  ::) ::) As for second hand.... Perhaps a tank, if it was cheap enough, but I wouldn't bother with anything else.

I'm happy to help anyone out with a conversion but my time is at a premium at the moment, and will be until after Christmas, so I wouldn't commit to helping until the new year.

As for tank options... Cylinder tanks are cheaper and can be larger than spare wheel replacements but take up nearly half of the boot space. It's all your decision TBH


Cheers for all this-will have a think about what to do... :y :y
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Post by: jereboam on 19 November 2009, 18:15:16
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Well, petrol has topped 110p/Litre here now... and I'm still buying LPG for 53.9. :D

Kevin

I normally pay 55.9, but if I made the effort to do the 20 mile (or so) round trip to Ipswich I'd pay 51.9, perhaps 53.9.

I just can't be bothered to waste over an hour of my day ::) ::)

Oh, come on! How can a visit to Ipswich ever be considered a waste of one's day?  The Jewel of the East is alway worth a trip! :) :) :)

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Post by: Lazydocker on 19 November 2009, 20:09:16
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Well, petrol has topped 110p/Litre here now... and I'm still buying LPG for 53.9. :D

Kevin

I normally pay 55.9, but if I made the effort to do the 20 mile (or so) round trip to Ipswich I'd pay 51.9, perhaps 53.9.

I just can't be bothered to waste over an hour of my day ::) ::)

Oh, come on! How can a visit to Ipswich ever be considered a waste of one's day?  The Jewel of the East is alway worth a trip! :) :) :)


What's Woodbridge got to do with it? ;) ;) ;D ;D