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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Nickbat on 21 November 2009, 00:55:22
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No one can condone hacking ;), but just read this:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100017393/climategate-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin-of-anthropogenic-global-warming/
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The blogosphere is on fire!
More here:
http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2009/11/20/climate-cuttings-33.html
and here:
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/the_warmist_conspiracy_tthe_emails_that_really_damn_professor_jones#63704
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And I thought scientists were supposed to be impartial! :o
Blogs may be alive but the news agencies dont seem bothered......
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Yeah, you wouldve thought that at least some newspapers/tv would at least pick up on this and pursue it further wouldnt you, esp as global warming has been thrust down our throats for so long. Dont get me wrong, I have no doubt that the chemicals we put into the atmosphere as by product of our energy sources are damaging and that harnessing wind/wave power is a better way to go, but when you consider what weve all been told about earths history with massive climate changes such as the ice age I dont seem to recall the invention of the internal combustion engine being quite that early-or maybe that film One Million YearsBC with Raquel Welch really was closer to the truth in that infamous scene with the vapour trail of a Boeing in shot ;D ;D ;D
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when the results are intensely money related,
bye bye honesty even in science.. good find Nickbat :y
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I feel like a Mushroom ::) It's time the truth came out >:(
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This is brilliant, can't wait fot this story to be the main headline on sky and bbc ::) >:(
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This is brilliant, can't wait fot this story to be the main headline on sky and bbc ::) >:(
At least The Mail has the guts to publish it: :y
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1229740/Hackers-expose-global-warming-Claims-leaked-emails-reveal-research-centre-massaged-temperature-data.html
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..and the Team even drove people who dared question them out of their jobs. Unbelievable. >:( >:(
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/the_global_warming_conspiracy_its_silencing_of_the_sceptics#63718
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"A folder containing documents, data and, e-mails purportedly "hacked" from Britain's Climate Research Unit (CRU) may be smoking-gun proof of a worldwide conspiracy to exaggerate the existence, causation, and threat of global warming. And the list of apparent conspirators includes many of the world's leading climate alarmists -- the very scientists on whose work the entire anthropogenic global warming theory is based."
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/11/the_evidence_of_climate_fraud.html
But nothing on the BBC? I wonder why? ::) ::)
P.S I've changed my profile text below to reflect all this. ;)
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"A folder containing documents, data and, e-mails purportedly "hacked" from Britain's Climate Research Unit (CRU) may be smoking-gun proof of a worldwide conspiracy to exaggerate the existence, causation, and threat of global warming. And the list of apparent conspirators includes many of the world's leading climate alarmists -- the very scientists on whose work the entire anthropogenic global warming theory is based."
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/11/the_evidence_of_climate_fraud.html
But nothing on the BBC? I wonder why? ::) ::)
P.S I've changed my profile text below to reflect all this. ;)
Oh there is. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8370282.stm
Just don't expect them to give any information regarding the content of the e-mails, just trying to keep out those evil oil companies "climate deniers" :P
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"A folder containing documents, data and, e-mails purportedly "hacked" from Britain's Climate Research Unit (CRU) may be smoking-gun proof of a worldwide conspiracy to exaggerate the existence, causation, and threat of global warming. And the list of apparent conspirators includes many of the world's leading climate alarmists -- the very scientists on whose work the entire anthropogenic global warming theory is based."
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/11/the_evidence_of_climate_fraud.html
But nothing on the BBC? I wonder why? ::) ::)
P.S I've changed my profile text below to reflect all this. ;)
Oh there is. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8370282.stm
Just don't expect them to give any information regarding the content of the e-mails, just trying to keep out those evil oil companies "climate deniers" :P
Yes, they prefer a "those nasty hackers" take. Never mind the dishonest and potentially illegal actions of UK-government paid scientists. ::)
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"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."
George Orwell
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Nickbat. Excellent quote by Mencken. That's politics in a nutshell
varche
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Interesting piece about CRU funding here. Puts the "in the pay of Big Oil" accusations from alarmists into satrk perspective.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/11/cru_files_betray_climate_alarm.html
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I hope you lot don't mind me adding to this thread as things get revealed. This is a huge story. It may make history as one of the greatest scientific scandals ever!
I have just read this:
"Just in case you still think Jones is just some no-name boffin toiling pitifully in academia's climate change coal mines, one file in the exposed CRU records reveals that he has collected £13.7 million in grants since 1990. Remember this the next time you hear anyone talking about all the oil company money being funneled to we evil denialists. As one commenter wrote on America's National Public Radio website: "I've been working around scientists milking this scam for a decade for grant money. Most will admit it's BS when you pour enough beers into them, but hey, the money's good." Jones's fellow warmer Overpeck allegedly writes in another email: "The fact is that we can't account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can't." A lack of warming? Haven't heard much about that from the majority scientific opinion. Nor have we previously heard of much else covered in the exposed emails, from dodging FOI requests to tax avoidance and shafting non-compliant journalists."
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/warming-to-the-climate-con-job/story-e6frezz0-1225801796426
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[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrodOi72Huo&feature=player_embedded[/media]
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The mutterings on this subject are getting louder all the time.I really do think we could be at the start off the beginning of the end of the whole scam (if that makes sense) ::)...........they will milk it some more for taxation and power grabbing opportunities and then start coming up with the form off words required to start slowly backpedalling. ;)
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After the initial focus on the emails from HadCru, attention has been drawn to the data. Well, what one could possibly call data. In fact, it's so messy that even the techies at HadCru hadn't got a clue what was going on.
It is on this pile of garbage that millions and trillions of pounds, euros and dollars are being spent (and paid for in taxes).
Absolutely, truly, unbelievable. :o :o :o :o :o :o >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
http://www.devilskitchen.me.uk/2009/11/data-horribilis-harryreadmetxt-file.html
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Oh please, please let this all make it on to mainstrean news programmes.
Someone's quiet ::)
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Oh please, please let this all make it on to mainstrean news programmes.
Someone's quiet ::)
Yes, I hope so, but remember that many of those in the mainstream have been taken in by all this hook, line, and sinker. Airing it (especially on the BBC) will make them look very foolish and expose their past bias. Mind you, I wonder just how long they will be able to keep a lid on this?
Yes, I had noticed that some people are being very quiet! ;)
Here is a much-watch video for those who want to know what's going on, but don't want to wade through links. 10 astonishing minutes.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydo2Mwnwpac[/media]
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/the_daily_politics/8374523.stm
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/the_daily_politics/8374523.stm
Thanks for that, Steve. Nice to see Fred Singer on the Beeb. I understand Andrew Neil is a sceptic.
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Meanwhile with thier heads in the clouds >:( >:(
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20091123/tsc-un-climate-chief-expects-specific-cl-f86fa4c.html
Not much chance of these guys admitting they're wrong, just in a few years time we'll hear that the measures taken (with our tax money and forced lifestyle changes) are working :( :P
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Disagree with the "consensus"? Out damned spot!
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Concerted effort to silence dissenters revealed in Climategate messages.
http://www.examiner.com/x-25061-Climate-Change-Examiner~y2009m11d24-Concerted-effort-to-silence-dissenters-revealed-in-Climategate-messages :o
"CEI Files Notice of Intent to Sue NASA"
http://spectator.org/blog/2009/11/24/climate-gate-development-cei-f
Wow, again! :o ;)
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aaah - the internet, this story was easily taken apart in less than a minute on newsnight.
now, where did I put those sand bags? :-/