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Title: ipods and itunes and all that
Post by: Omegadoha, Desert Member on 22 November 2009, 15:54:01
Anyone any good on ipods and itunes?

Won an ipod nano in a raffle on Friday. Am I correct in saying that there doesn't seem to be a great amount of music to purchase?

Also can you hook them up to external devices such as car stereos TV's etc?
Title: Re: ipods and itunes and all that
Post by: tunnie on 22 November 2009, 16:34:04
not sure what its like for your location, but here iTunes will be the death of HMV, you can buy nearly everyone modern song ever made on iTunes, tones of old classics too, their music store is huge! with a lot of tracks being released online FIRST, then going to the shops.

They have standard 3.5mm headphone jacks so output as normal to any AUX input on home/car stero's
Title: Re: ipods and itunes and all that
Post by: Omegadoha, Desert Member on 22 November 2009, 16:41:44
Thank you for that. :y

I've registered with my UK address and it defaults me to the UK site. :y
Title: Re: ipods and itunes and all that
Post by: steverubberduck on 22 November 2009, 17:48:04
tbh, there's not a lot you can't do with an ipod.
Music, films, podcasts etc...
and that's just from itunes.
I have my ipod touch connected to my car stereo.
Wouldn't be without one now  :y
Title: Re: ipods and itunes and all that
Post by: tunnie on 22 November 2009, 17:51:09
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tbh, there's not a lot you can't do with an ipod.
Music, films, podcasts etc...
and that's just from itunes.
I have my ipod touch connected to my car stereo.
Wouldn't be without one now  :y

When commuting on the train, having one of those was brilliant. Light, good battery, excellent screen, converted loads of films and TV shows to watch on the way. Time flew past.

Nano is more for music on the go really, although  Omegadoha you could fit a wired fm transmitter for an aux feed into your Bose. Then you will have 8/16/32GB(?) of music  8-)
Title: Re: ipods and itunes and all that
Post by: jonnycool on 22 November 2009, 20:33:37
Anyone know why I can't get AC/DC on iTunes?
Title: Re: ipods and itunes and all that
Post by: Martin_1962 on 22 November 2009, 20:39:29
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not sure what its like for your location, but here iTunes will be the death of HMV, you can buy nearly everyone modern song ever made on iTunes, tones of old classics too, their music store is huge! with a lot of tracks being released online FIRST, then going to the shops.

They have standard 3.5mm headphone jacks so output as normal to any AUX input on home/car stero's


More like overpricing will be end of HMV

Tesco are cheap
Play have a better selection
CD Wow are cheap

I would buy a CD I will pay more for SACD or DVD-A, but for downloads, I would pay - nothing - ie free.

They are compressed and CDs sound better.

Also lots of modern music is basically crap
Title: Re: ipods and itunes and all that
Post by: omegaman2 on 22 November 2009, 20:41:58
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not sure what its like for your location, but here iTunes will be the death of HMV, you can buy nearly everyone modern song ever made on iTunes, tones of old classics too, their music store is huge! with a lot of tracks being released online FIRST, then going to the shops.

They have standard 3.5mm headphone jacks so output as normal to any AUX input on home/car stero's


More like overpricing will be end of HMV

Tesco are cheap
Play have a better selection
CD Wow are cheap

I would buy a CD I will pay more for SACD or DVD-A, but for downloads, I would pay - nothing - ie free.

They are compressed and CDs sound better.

Also lots of modern music is basically crap
Title: Re: ipods and itunes and all that
Post by: jerry on 22 November 2009, 23:02:59
must admit that I use I-tunes quite a bit-tho its mostly to get tracks that Ive already got on vinyl onto CD (I have got one of those players where you put it through your pc and record the vinyl onto your pc and then burn it to cd but its just so time consuming). At 79p theyre not cheap but its convenient and once downloaded you can make up your own playlists to burn to cd etc. The catalogue on I-tunes is quite impressive tho you still cant get The Beatles for eg (or AC/DC apparantly!)
Title: Re: ipods and itunes and all that
Post by: Omegadoha, Desert Member on 23 November 2009, 03:43:50
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Anyone know why I can't get AC/DC on iTunes?

Dunno. But they do have Whitesnake.
Title: Re: ipods and itunes and all that
Post by: feeutfo on 23 November 2009, 09:15:05
Mrs G has a nano. Its very cute, and so small. But as far car connection goes(i haven't got round to it yet) i dont think i'll bother with an ipod. Modern smartphones have the same functionality and certainly have a bigger screen. I cant justify a touch or i phone on price and the fact The Boy is right, they are sooo gay (there's an app for that!.... break off!). 

 I already have a phone holder and charger in the car i just need an fm transmitter to get it into the head unit which my next phone has already built in (N900 if the networks ever take it on)

So i have the phone, if i add an ipod i'll have to find another mounting point, have another charger in the car, and fit a wired fm emulator/transmitter thing, and have a smaller screen on the device. Why not have it all in one?

Well done for winning an ipod though. I've never paid for mp3's, there are plenty of other sources, plus between us we have a largeish music collection on cd. I prefer to buy the album on solid media in my hand for music i really want to own.


Title: Re: ipods and itunes and all that
Post by: Kevin Wood on 23 November 2009, 09:41:25
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More like overpricing will be end of HMV

Tesco are cheap
Play have a better selection
CD Wow are cheap

I would buy a CD I will pay more for SACD or DVD-A, but for downloads, I would pay - nothing - ie free.

They are compressed and CDs sound better.

Also lots of modern music is basically crap

Agreed on all counts. Music downloads are inherently worthless, especially if crippled with DRM. IMHO

Nothing other than lossless compression is suitable for serious listening. I suspect those who buy downloads don't listen seriously to music...

Kevin
Title: Re: ipods and itunes and all that
Post by: KillerWatt on 23 November 2009, 20:16:34
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Music downloads are inherently worthless, especially if crippled with DRM. IMHO
DRM was cracked pretty much since day 1 Kev  ;)


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Nothing other than lossless compression is suitable for serious listening.
Spot on Kev, spot on  :y


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I suspect those who buy downloads don't listen seriously to music...
Let's be honest here Kev, it's only the serious players that would even consider spending more on ONE subwoofer than what most would spend on an ENTIRE system.....hence the ones who pay for the 320kbps MP3 download think they are getting their money's worth.


PS

Just under 4GB of choonz here sitting on a very private server, all of them in FLAC format if you need anything  ;)
Title: Re: ipods and itunes and all that
Post by: Martin_1962 on 23 November 2009, 20:22:17
I thought I had a bargain at 450 for my front stereo pair

Definate bargain at £110 for my DVD-V DVD-A SACD CD player - it does mp3 but not interested in those
Title: Re: ipods and itunes and all that
Post by: KillerWatt on 23 November 2009, 20:54:23
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I thought I had a bargain at 450 for my front stereo pair
I paid half as much again for just one of my subwoofers, you bloody cheapskate  ;D

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Definate bargain at £110 for my DVD-V DVD-A SACD CD player - it does mp3 but not interested in those
£45 from ASDA, does the lot  ;)
Title: Re: ipods and itunes and all that
Post by: Martin_1962 on 23 November 2009, 21:58:15
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I thought I had a bargain at 450 for my front stereo pair
I paid half as much again for just one of my subwoofers, you bloody cheapskate  ;D

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Definate bargain at £110 for my DVD-V DVD-A SACD CD player - it does mp3 but not interested in those
£45 from ASDA, does the lot  ;)


The play anything is a Pioneer DV575 - excellent value for money when we bought it.

The speakers were in a sale, actually 4 out of 5 were.

I have always had top end TVs though.

BTW we do have a good house alarm, and a neighbour always at home who is ex army!
Title: Re: ipods and itunes and all that
Post by: Kevin Wood on 23 November 2009, 23:52:21
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Music downloads are inherently worthless, especially if crippled with DRM. IMHO
DRM was cracked pretty much since day 1 Kev  ;)


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Nothing other than lossless compression is suitable for serious listening.
Spot on Kev, spot on  :y


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I suspect those who buy downloads don't listen seriously to music...
Let's be honest here Kev, it's only the serious players that would even consider spending more on ONE subwoofer than what most would spend on an ENTIRE system.....hence the ones who pay for the 320kbps MP3 download think they are getting their money's worth.


PS

Just under 4GB of choonz here sitting on a very private server, all of them in FLAC format if you need anything  ;)

I ripped my whole collection, encoded to FLAC and the CDs haven't been played for ages now. They all sit on a Linux box and get listened to through a Squeezebox 3. Best gadget I've ever had. (If you use it to feed a decent DAC) :y

Kevin
Title: Re: ipods and itunes and all that
Post by: Omegadoha, Desert Member on 24 November 2009, 16:07:16
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Mrs G has a nano. Its very cute, and so small. But as far car connection goes(i haven't got round to it yet) i dont think i'll bother with an ipod. Modern smartphones have the same functionality and certainly have a bigger screen. I cant justify a touch or i phone on price and the fact The Boy is right, they are sooo gay (there's an app for that!.... break off!). 

 I already have a phone holder and charger in the car i just need an fm transmitter to get it into the head unit which my next phone has already built in (N900 if the networks ever take it on)

So i have the phone, if i add an ipod i'll have to find another mounting point, have another charger in the car, and fit a wired fm emulator/transmitter thing, and have a smaller screen on the device. Why not have it all in one?

Well done for winning an ipod though. I've never paid for mp3's, there are plenty of other sources, plus between us we have a largeish music collection on cd. I prefer to buy the album on solid media in my hand for music i really want to own.


Thanks  :y
Title: Re: ipods and itunes and all that
Post by: jerry on 24 November 2009, 18:32:49
Despite downloading a wide range of music for convenience (eg making my own selection of CDs for the car), must admit that I still prefer the analogue feel of my vinyl (crackles and all!!) than the sometimes too clinical sound of a remastered CD. To my old ears it sounds somehow "warmer". Then again, I am becoming a bit of an old git :y
Title: Re: ipods and itunes and all that
Post by: steverubberduck on 24 November 2009, 20:38:13
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tbh, there's not a lot you can't do with an ipod.
Music, films, podcasts etc...
and that's just from itunes.
I have my ipod touch connected to my car stereo.
Wouldn't be without one now  :y

When commuting on the train, having one of those was brilliant. Light, good battery, excellent screen, converted loads of films and TV shows to watch on the way. Time flew past.

Nano is more for music on the go really, although  Omegadoha you could fit a wired fm transmitter for an aux feed into your Bose. Then you will have 8/16/32GB(?) of music  8-)
Only problem with a transmitter, is you can pick up interference from other stations that have a stronger signal
Title: Re: ipods and itunes and all that
Post by: Omegadoha, Desert Member on 25 November 2009, 10:42:41
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Despite downloading a wide range of music for convenience (eg making my own selection of CDs for the car), must admit that I still prefer the analogue feel of my vinyl (crackles and all!!) than the sometimes too clinical sound of a remastered CD. To my old ears it sounds somehow "warmer". Then again, I am becoming a bit of an old git :y

I would have to agree with you. Vinyl offers a greater range of depth than CDs. CD sound is a bit more flatter in my opinion, but at the end of the day, they are OK too.  :y
Title: Re: ipods and itunes and all that
Post by: jerry on 25 November 2009, 13:23:53
Just glad I'm not alone!
Title: Re: ipods and itunes and all that
Post by: Kevin Wood on 25 November 2009, 13:44:28
CD as a format actually has a much better dynamic range than vinyl.

What we are up against, IMHO, is that, when producing CDs, the dynamic range is compressed during mixing to cater for the "tastes" of the mass market. (who buy their Hi-Fi gear at the same place as their groceries) ::)

Kevin
Title: Re: ipods and itunes and all that
Post by: jerry on 25 November 2009, 14:44:06
Does that make me a ludite then Kev? ;D




But youre right, I guess -as a format-Cds do have more sonic potential, its just that it doesnt seem to be much exploited. But seriously, is it a myth about analogue being " warmer "than digital, to my ears it does seem to be the case whether we're talking vinyl vs CD or valve guitar amps vs transistor ones.
Title: Re: ipods and itunes and all that
Post by: Kevin Wood on 25 November 2009, 16:17:38
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Does that make me a ludite then Kev?

Not at all, Jerry. And you'll be pleased to know that my main Hi-Fi amplifier is valve.  ;)

Kevin