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Title: SO some one like my omega so much
Post by: lozzy on 30 November 2009, 18:10:35
that they have cloned my numberplate

very ebarising moment yesterday was on the A3 i head in to the BP services went to pump one  the guys at the till were waving like go away so i thought fair enough its outside pump il go to another then other the tanny no no no no payment first

i went in to find my car flagged on ANPR i was stunned  so i paid up and asked how i can find out more he said call the head office

im not sure  what to do ? any advice ?
Title: Re: SO some one like my omega so much
Post by: STMO999 on 30 November 2009, 18:21:53
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that they have cloned my numberplate

very ebarising moment yesterday was on the A3 i head in to the BP services went to pump one  the guys at the till were waving like go away so i thought fair enough its outside pump il go to another then other the tanny no no no no payment first

i went in to find my car flagged on ANPR i was stunned  so i paid up and asked how i can find out more he said call the head office

im not sure  what to do ? any advice ?


Ermm.......call the head office.
Title: Re: SO some one like my omega so much
Post by: Varche on 30 November 2009, 18:24:31
Firstly how long have you had the Omega?

Secondly is it an Omega or an Audi?

Varche
Title: Re: SO some one like my omega so much
Post by: lozzy on 30 November 2009, 18:24:57
stating the obvious there but thats going to stop some one using my plate

is it worth contacting the police ?

Title: Re: SO some one like my omega so much
Post by: davethediver on 30 November 2009, 18:26:31
Call the police, i was cloned in a hire van a few months back no end of trouble, luckily the hire company have dealt with it all for me  :)
Title: Re: SO some one like my omega so much
Post by: lozzy on 30 November 2009, 18:35:29
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Firstly how long have you had the Omega?

Secondly is it an Omega or an Audi?

Varche
its my omega my audi been taken off the road for some work

ive had it 4 months but have started driving it last week
Title: Re: SO some one like my omega so much
Post by: KillerWatt on 30 November 2009, 19:56:54
Petrol stations don't have access to the ANPR system
Title: Re: SO some one like my omega so much
Post by: tunnie on 30 November 2009, 20:01:14
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Petrol stations don't have access to the ANPR system

Yes they do, it does not access the insurance database or police db. But they have their own system for flagging known drive offs
Title: Re: SO some one like my omega so much
Post by: KillerWatt on 30 November 2009, 20:07:03
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Petrol stations don't have access to the ANPR system

Yes they do, it does not access the insurance database or police db. But they have their own system for flagging known drive offs
Exactly, and their "own" system is not even a close relative of what is commonly known as ANPR.
Title: Re: SO some one like my omega so much
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 30 November 2009, 20:07:33
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stating the obvious there but thats going to stop some one using my plate

is it worth contacting the police ?


That would be the logical and sensible course of action L if the head office of the  fuel service centre concerned insist that this number was involved in a MOWP incident :y
Title: Re: SO some one like my omega so much
Post by: tunnie on 30 November 2009, 20:10:19
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Petrol stations don't have access to the ANPR system

Yes they do, it does not access the insurance database or police db. But they have their own system for flagging known drive offs
Exactly, and their "own" system is not even a close relative of what is commonly known as ANPR.

Same comments apply above, need to contact BP and confirm why his number plate was added. Could be a typo for a similar plate, which did a drive off.

ANPR is used everywhere these days, going for the ferry last year, they just confirmed our names when i put the window down, then flagged us through. No passports, no showing our booking, just straight on!
Title: Re: SO some one like my omega so much
Post by: KillerWatt on 30 November 2009, 20:15:44
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ANPR is used everywhere these days, going for the ferry last year, they just confirmed our names when i put the window down, then flagged us through. No passports, no showing our booking, just straight on!
I doubt for one minute that the car being registered to one of the people named on the passenger list was responsible for no checks taking place when leaving the UK, more like they were running late and just wanted to get you on board.

Like yourself we have no problem departing the UK (even in vehicles that are not registered to anybody travelling), but we get the full treatment when we come back....EVERY f**king time.
Title: Re: SO some one like my omega so much
Post by: Andy B on 30 November 2009, 20:16:10
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ANPR is used everywhere these days, going for the ferry last year, they just confirmed our names when i put the window down, then flagged us through. ....

Same at the Chunnel!  :y  :y  :y
Title: Re: SO some one like my omega so much
Post by: Welung666 on 30 November 2009, 20:16:39
Our little Fiesta Courier van had the number plates stolen from the local Netto car park. Police have flagged the VRN and the local BP reported the VRN less than an hour later for it's involvement in a bilk on a green Vectra! The police have been in touch since in responseto an attempted bilk in Suffolk using a blue Ford Mundaineo so there must be a link somewhere.
Title: Re: SO some one like my omega so much
Post by: KillerWatt on 30 November 2009, 20:23:05
I am still surprised that the government failed to foresee what the "unintended" consequences of using ANPR to fine people for stopping for 20 seconds while they drop a passenger off were going to be  ::)

Title: Re: SO some one like my omega so much
Post by: cam2502 on 30 November 2009, 20:28:43
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that they have cloned my numberplate

very ebarising moment yesterday was on the A3 i head in to the BP services went to pump one  the guys at the till were waving like go away so i thought fair enough its outside pump il go to another then other the tanny no no no no payment first

i went in to find my car flagged on ANPR i was stunned  so i paid up and asked how i can find out more he said call the head office

im not sure  what to do ? any advice ?


Ermm.......call the head office.[/quote
gotta say...this kind of sarky comment bugs me, ok it was maybe a no brainer, but the guy is a newbie with 95 posts and imho its comments like this that sometimes get taken the wrong way.
Title: Re: SO some one like my omega so much
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 30 November 2009, 20:29:42
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I am still surprised that the government failed to foresee what the "unintended" consequences of using ANPR to fine people for stopping for 20 seconds while they drop a passenger off were going to be  ::)




 ;D ;D ;D splendid K :y
Title: Re: SO some one like my omega so much
Post by: STMO999 on 30 November 2009, 20:47:44
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that they have cloned my numberplate

very ebarising moment yesterday was on the A3 i head in to the BP services went to pump one  the guys at the till were waving like go away so i thought fair enough its outside pump il go to another then other the tanny no no no no payment first

i went in to find my car flagged on ANPR i was stunned  so i paid up and asked how i can find out more he said call the head office

im not sure  what to do ? any advice ?


Ermm.......call the head office.[/quote
gotta say...this kind of sarky comment bugs me, ok it was maybe a no brainer, but the guy is a newbie with 95 posts and imho its comments like this that sometimes get taken the wrong way.

Aw, shucks. Really sorry about that. ;D
Title: Re: SO some one like my omega so much
Post by: KillerWatt on 30 November 2009, 20:51:05
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I am still surprised that the government failed to foresee what the "unintended" consequences of using ANPR to fine people for stopping for 20 seconds while they drop a passenger off were going to be  ::)




 ;D ;D ;D splendid K :y
The minute you start issuing £60 FPN's along with 3 points to LICENSED taxi drivers when they stop to drop off a fare at 2:30am (yes, Camden Council actually did that), it surely doesn't take a degree in rocket science to work out what follows.

Of course this wonderful government had a brainwave to eradicate the cloning problem, they restrict the sale of ROAD LEGAL plates to certain dealers and you have to prove who you are when buying.

Great idea.....once they stop you going to the likes of Blackbushe and buying a pair of plates for half the shop price and signing a receipt to say they are for show use only (which means no questions asked).
Title: Re: SO some one like my omega so much
Post by: cam2502 on 30 November 2009, 20:51:19
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that they have cloned my numberplate

very ebarising moment yesterday was on the A3 i head in to the BP services went to pump one  the guys at the till were waving like go away so i thought fair enough its outside pump il go to another then other the tanny no no no no payment first

i went in to find my car flagged on ANPR i was stunned  so i paid up and asked how i can find out more he said call the head office

im not sure  what to do ? any advice ?


Ermm.......call the head office.[/quote
gotta say...this kind of sarky comment bugs me, ok it was maybe a no brainer, but the guy is a newbie with 95 posts and imho its comments like this that sometimes get taken the wrong way.

Aw, shucks. Really sorry about that. ;D
i rest my case! ::)
Title: Re: SO some one like my omega so much
Post by: tunnie on 30 November 2009, 21:05:05
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ANPR is used everywhere these days, going for the ferry last year, they just confirmed our names when i put the window down, then flagged us through. No passports, no showing our booking, just straight on!
I doubt for one minute that the car being registered to one of the people named on the passenger list was responsible for no checks taking place when leaving the UK, more like they were running late and just wanted to get you on board.

Like yourself we have no problem departing the UK (even in vehicles that are not registered to anybody travelling), but we get the full treatment when we come back....EVERY f**king time.

Nope, was about 1 hour early, done about 4 recent trips on tunnel & ferry, departing the UK only once was our passports checked  :o

Got 1 treatment for the full search, but as soon as i popped the boot (it was totally rammed with camping and snowboards) I looked at the inspector and said, if you take that stuff out, YOU, and only YOU are putting that back in. And if i miss my crossing, i want compensation.

The boot was open for about 25 seconds, nothing removed, it was shut and i was on my way again  :)
Title: Re: SO some one like my omega so much
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 30 November 2009, 22:18:13
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The minute you start issuing £60 FPN's along with 3 points to LICENSED taxi drivers when they stop to drop off a fare at 2:30am (yes, Camden Council actually did that), it surely doesn't take a degree in rocket science to work out what follows.


Exactly K, the nett result of much of this present government's ill-thought out and inappropriately applied legislation.

Why show any degree of sophistication when dealing with these matters when one can use the brute force of disinterested oppression instead - what? :y :y
Title: Re: SO some one like my omega so much
Post by: Tony H on 30 November 2009, 23:09:26
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that they have cloned my numberplate

very ebarising moment yesterday was on the A3 i head in to the BP services went to pump one  the guys at the till were waving like go away so i thought fair enough its outside pump il go to another then other the tanny no no no no payment first

i went in to find my car flagged on ANPR i was stunned  so i paid up and asked how i can find out more he said call the head office

im not sure  what to do ? any advice ?


Ermm.......call the head office.[/quote
gotta say...this kind of sarky comment bugs me, ok it was maybe a no brainer, but the guy is a newbie with 95 posts and imho its comments like this that sometimes get taken the wrong way.

Aw, shucks. Really sorry about that. ;D
You've got to make allowances for Steve (STMO) he suffers from miserable sarky old git syndrome ::)
Title: Re: SO some one like my omega so much
Post by: tunnie on 30 November 2009, 23:12:25
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that they have cloned my numberplate

very ebarising moment yesterday was on the A3 i head in to the BP services went to pump one  the guys at the till were waving like go away so i thought fair enough its outside pump il go to another then other the tanny no no no no payment first

i went in to find my car flagged on ANPR i was stunned  so i paid up and asked how i can find out more he said call the head office

im not sure  what to do ? any advice ?


Ermm.......call the head office.[/quote
gotta say...this kind of sarky comment bugs me, ok it was maybe a no brainer, but the guy is a newbie with 95 posts and imho its comments like this that sometimes get taken the wrong way.

Aw, shucks. Really sorry about that. ;D
You've got to make allowances for Steve (STMO) he suffers from miserable sarky old git syndrome ::)

I thought it was totally fair, and the right thing to suggest him to do.  :-/  :-?
Title: Re: SO some one like my omega so much
Post by: MikeDundee on 30 November 2009, 23:14:52
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that they have cloned my numberplate

very ebarising moment yesterday was on the A3 i head in to the BP services went to pump one  the guys at the till were waving like go away so i thought fair enough its outside pump il go to another then other the tanny no no no no payment first

i went in to find my car flagged on ANPR i was stunned  so i paid up and asked how i can find out more he said call the head office

im not sure  what to do ? any advice ?


Ermm.......call the head office.[/quote
gotta say...this kind of sarky comment bugs me, ok it was maybe a no brainer, but the guy is a newbie with 95 posts and imho its comments like this that sometimes get taken the wrong way.

Aw, shucks. Really sorry about that. ;D
You've got to make allowances for Steve (STMO) he suffers from miserable sarky old git syndrome ::)

I thought it was totally fair, and the right thing to suggest him to do.  :-/  :-?

Afraid not Tunnie :-X, totally unfair, and defo not the right thing to do :y...then again I may be wrong ;D ;D
Title: Re: SO some one like my omega so much
Post by: Amigo on 30 November 2009, 23:29:50
Maybe this is a case in point for having a private plate. I know & accept folk have mixed feelings ...waste of money...only for egotists...& all the rest, you are probably right as well but if you wanted to clone/ring/use an anti suss plate for a job would you steal S592 UAB (Beastie's original reg.) or L9 MUF?(£160)
   That's not why i bought the plate but given this post which would stand out more if you wanted to misbehave? ::)
Title: Re: SO some one like my omega so much
Post by: davethediver on 30 November 2009, 23:42:41
I don't think the people that clone them guy really give a toss guy. i was in a sign written hire van, went dow to romford once and within two weeks i'd allegedly been parking on double yellows, running red lights etc etc.

When the tickets finally got to my office (accounts very nearly just paid them :( ) it was only when i looked at the pictures and spotted no livery on the van that i questioned it.

Hire company said happens all the time they just pick a similar coloured car and model and rob whoevers plates they come accross >:(
Title: Re: SO some one like my omega so much
Post by: STMO999 on 01 December 2009, 07:15:11
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that they have cloned my numberplate

very ebarising moment yesterday was on the A3 i head in to the BP services went to pump one  the guys at the till were waving like go away so i thought fair enough its outside pump il go to another then other the tanny no no no no payment first

i went in to find my car flagged on ANPR i was stunned  so i paid up and asked how i can find out more he said call the head office

im not sure  what to do ? any advice ?


Ermm.......call the head office.[/quote
gotta say...this kind of sarky comment bugs me, ok it was maybe a no brainer, but the guy is a newbie with 95 posts and imho its comments like this that sometimes get taken the wrong way.

Aw, shucks. Really sorry about that. ;D
You've got to make allowances for Steve (STMO) he suffers from miserable sarky old git syndrome ::)


Yes. You've got to make allowances. :P
Title: Re: SO some one like my omega so much
Post by: unlucky mark mv6 on 01 December 2009, 11:12:24
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that they have cloned my numberplate

very ebarising moment yesterday was on the A3 i head in to the BP services went to pump one  the guys at the till were waving like go away so i thought fair enough its outside pump il go to another then other the tanny no no no no payment first

i went in to find my car flagged on ANPR i was stunned  so i paid up and asked how i can find out more he said call the head office

im not sure  what to do ? any advice ?
Use it to your advantage,and go and commit some crime,and blame the criminals.Just be sure to hide your kisser,then that way you will have a cracking christmas. :D ;D :y
Title: Re: SO some one like my omega so much
Post by: Omegadoha, Desert Member on 01 December 2009, 11:52:09
Can't you get those numberplates that fall apart when you try and rip them off a car?
Title: Re: SO some one like my omega so much
Post by: omegadan67 on 01 December 2009, 11:55:22
quote author=052722222B3C192F3A3A4E0 link=1259604635/6#6 date=1259611014]Petrol stations don't have access to the ANPR system[/quote]
yes they do and have had for 18 months to 2 years thou not as good as the police system it will alert a garage to a car that has driven off before
 
Title: Re: SO some one like my omega so much
Post by: KillerWatt on 01 December 2009, 19:44:32
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quote author=052722222B3C192F3A3A4E0 link=1259604635/6#6 date=1259611014]Petrol stations don't have access to the ANPR system
yes they do and have had for 18 months to 2 years thou not as good as the police system it will alert a garage to a car that has driven off before
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Just to clarify then....

ANPR = Automatic Number Plate Recognition.

The term "ANPR" came about (and is generally accepted) as being an old bill thing for checking insurance, license, MOT, tax.

Petrol stations will NOT have access to any of this info, the best they can do is build up their own database based on cars that have made off without payment.

The system was flawed from day one, because you simply cannot stop number plates being made/issued without proof of ownership.