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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Lazydocker on 28 November 2009, 22:12:59
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Been planning on getting a new telly for a while and have spotted a Samsung LE40B530P7 (40" LCD Full HD) for £399.99+ VAT, which is tempting. ::) ::) But I only have until Monday to grab it at that price.
I've had a good look at some reviews and the main criticism seems to be the sound quality, which isn't a major concern for me as I run all sounds through an Arcam (Dolby 5.1) amp.
Couple of questions.... Anyone have any experience of this telly?
Also, it only has 1 Scart socket, but can I run component input from the amp to a HDMI socket?
And will I still get full HD through the Amp (it's an old one from pre HD times)?
Thanks for your advice :y :y
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not got any experience of that exact model, but Samsungs are excellent pannels. I believe they still do a zero dead / hot pixel policy, if you get a single failed pixel, they will swap the TV, no issues.
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And will I still get full HD through the Amp (it's an old one from pre HD times)?
If your amp doesn't make provision for HD, then you won't get HD.
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And will I still get full HD through the Amp (it's an old one from pre HD times)?
If your amp doesn't make provision for HD, then you won't get HD.
good point..
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not got any experience of that exact model, but Samsungs are excellent pannels. I believe they still do a zero dead / hot pixel policy, if you get a single failed pixel, they will swap the TV, no issues.
Yep... I know they're a good brand (and it's a very good price as the cheapest online is nearly £20 more +£15 odd P&P!) and I thought I'd heard of that policy too :-/ :-/
I'm sorely tempted, although it'll open the floodgates for PS3 and Sky +HD as I've delayed both of these because I haven't got a HD TV ::) ::)
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And will I still get full HD through the Amp (it's an old one from pre HD times)?
If your amp doesn't make provision for HD, then you won't get HD.
Was my thought... But I could run sound through the Amp with picture feed via HDMI input (I think) :-/ :-/
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And will I still get full HD through the Amp (it's an old one from pre HD times)?
If your amp doesn't make provision for HD, then you won't get HD.
Was my thought... But I could run sound through the Amp with picture feed via HDMI input (I think) :-/ :-/
Don't get caught up in HDMI, just because its digital, does not make it better. Proper component leads will be better than HDMI.
HDMI is just a single cable to replace the 5 in component.
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How many HDMI?
Mine has three with all in use.
Only used one Scart so far though
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And will I still get full HD through the Amp (it's an old one from pre HD times)?
If your amp doesn't make provision for HD, then you won't get HD.
Was my thought... But I could run sound through the Amp with picture feed via HDMI input (I think) :-/ :-/
Don't get caught up in HDMI, just because its digital, does not make it better. Proper component leads will be better than HDMI.
HDMI is just a single cable to replace the 5 in component.
Depends on the equipment.
A lot of HD sources are encrypted so component won't work.
As to SDTV component. Slightly different to RGB but may be TV settings for tham input but no improvement over RGB with component
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How many HDMI?
Mine has three with all in use.
Only used one Scart so far though
3 HDMI sockets, 1 Scart
This is the cheapest online option for the same TV
http://www.simplyelectricals.co.uk/samsung-le40b530p7-black.html
Or Dixons/Currys for £479
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Been planning on getting a new telly for a while and have spotted a Samsung LE40B530P7 (40" LCD Full HD) for £399.99+ VAT, which is tempting. ::) ::) But I only have until Monday to grab it at that price.
I've had a good look at some reviews and the main criticism seems to be the sound quality, which isn't a major concern for me as I run all sounds through an Arcam (Dolby 5.1) amp.
Couple of questions.... Anyone have any experience of this telly?
Also, it only has 1 Scart socket, but can I run component input from the amp to a HDMI socket?
And will I still get full HD through the Amp (it's an old one from pre HD times)?
Thanks for your advice :y :y
I suppose it depends on the proposed source for your HD.
Should it be Sky all new Sky equipment only provides an HDMI output - the older Thomson receivers also had component outputs that could be used for the same purpose - an optical output for 5.1 sound (when available) and phono audio jacks for R/L sound channels.
If your amp hasn't HDMI inputs you might be in trouble if you were thinking about routing the HD through it. If the amp has an optical input then you would normally route the output from the Sky receiver to this, if not then the phono provision on the Sky receiver can be routed to you amp instead.
In a straightforward application the HDMI output from the Sky receiver is taken to the television and the audio output in optical or stereo taken through the amp, I imagine the same would apply to any other HD sources depending on the available inputs on the television and the audio amp.
Although this Samsung is a discontinued model a lot of people seem quite happy with the manufacturer.
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I have a Samsung and am pretty disgusted with it. Sent the first one back and the second had the same problem which appears to be a design fault.
Manufacturer's solution? Switch off dynamic contrast in the service menu. (That changes the spec no end!). I can tie the EPG in knots if I use 'favourites' and sometimes the audio sounds as if it's coming down a pipe and can only be restored to normal by powering off and on.
Yes, I'm a fussy broadcast engineer but there is a lot of very poor kit around that could do with firmware re-writes and my Samsung LE32R74BD is one of them.
Try to check out the model before you buy.
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And will I still get full HD through the Amp (it's an old one from pre HD times)?
If your amp doesn't make provision for HD, then you won't get HD.
If you are planning to use freeview HD, i'd hold off as the spec has just been ratified, so all HD ready sets with digital freeview tuners wont receive HD broadcasts unless they can be upgraded to the new format
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Yes, I'm a fussy broadcast engineer but there is a lot of very poor kit around that could do with firmware re-writes and my Samsung LE32R74BD is one of them.
Amen to that. You just know there'll be something that cripples any bit of AV kit these days. Like my DVD/HDD recorder that insists on trying to play a DVD as soon as you take it out of standby, meaning that if you were just wanting to browse through the EPG and set it up to record as programme you've got to wade through some really sluggish menus just to get it out of DVD player mode. >:(
Useability is at the bottom of the priority list down with post-warranty reliability with consumer electronics items. Probably because by the time you discover the problems you've already bought it so it doesn't matter. >:(
Still, my Sony CRT is still going. :-X Sounds like I'll have a great excuse to bin Murdoch's offering if when the Sky box dies though. :y
Kevin
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having seen a mates hd picture on a samsung i wouldnt touch it with yours tbh. Not impressed at all. But its standard def you will watch most so check thats acceptable to you first. Some really are dire. Having said that could be a fair price depending on size.
Re sound there are no sound inputs to the tv at all on mine. Dont even have speakers on it. Like you i dont have an hdmi amp and its not an issue at all. It handels sky hd ps3 and xbox via optical cable and a single component socket. There are switchers available if yous amp does not have enough inputs.
I dont use any scarts but the dvd recorder never gets used so i haven connected it up. Its just an expensive clock that tells the wrong time at the moment. ;D
In short, the tv does the pictures and the amp does the sound.
Hdmi doesnt bother the audio if you dont want. Looked into an hdmi amp, onkyo of some sort, load of crap save you wedge......imho of course :-)
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Hmmm.... Interesting!
I've been very impressed (as have several people who are heavily into AV stuff) with this model. It's a 40" LCD and, apart from the sound quality, it seems very good. Sound isn't an issue because I'll be using the amp.
OK. Next question... LCD, (LED not really an option withing my current price range) or Plasma?
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LED....
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LCD edges it in practical scenarios.
Samsung are excellent units, but do use the recommended settings founf on line (e.g. avforums).
I am surprised that some on here think that digital trickery such as image enhancement and sharpness settings can do any good to any picture so turn them all off!
And seperat component might edge over HDMI....if you could find a true HD component source in the first place (and even then its VERY questionable).
And why bugger around ever feeding video through an amp?
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I should add that HDMI is a digital signal and in theory (reality is different!) is little more than a decoded stream from the source.....its not been through any D-A conversion or any other 'degrading' step.
As such, it should offer the route to the screen with the minimum of distortion to the source.
If we consider component video then it will ahve been taken from the digital source, decoded, passed through a D-A, sent to the screen, passed through an A-D and processed ready for display.
Hence a much more 'involved' route.
Also consider adding in an amp.....it offers little more than a switch function which, if you have 3 HDMI inputs, can easily be done in the TV (and the signal will pass through this internal switch anyway) for the vast majority of applications.
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should be interesting when OLED are cheap in big sizes :)
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Well last year we bought a 46" Sony and to be honest it is excellent.
For Kevin when the Murdoch box dies get a Humax Sat box :y
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So the general feeling is that this Samsung LCD unit is pretty good. I would run sound through the amp anyway so I'm not overly concerned about sound quality TBH. My current set up uses the amp for switching source, mainly because I have more input sources than scart sockets ::) Sound would always come through the amp as it's far better quality than any TV can achieve.
I believe I can get a lead which will allow me to take a component feed from the Amp back to the TV (via HDMI input) for all the peripherals such as PS2, Wii, DVD player, and feed the Sky+ box into TV via HDMI, which just leaves me getting the sound feed to the Amp.
I'll ponder this for the rest of the day! I need to make a decision tomorrow morning as the offer ends on the 1st and tomorrow is the only chance I'll get to go in.
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Should add, I've researched the AVForum for ideas about this TV and the general answer is that it's good, apart from sound quality, and has been discontinued by some suppliers but not by Samsung. It's never going to be perfect for the price it is but is pretty impressive.
There are recommended settings for it online so that makes it easier to set up. Only real complaint on the AVForum was that the screen is a little too reflective sometimes.
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LCD edges it in practical scenarios.
Samsung are excellent units, but do use the recommended settings founf on line (e.g. avforums).
I am surprised that some on here think that digital trickery such as image enhancement and sharpness settings can do any good to any picture so turn them all off!
And seperat component might edge over HDMI....if you could find a true HD component source in the first place (and even then its VERY questionable).
And why bugger around ever feeding video through an amp?
Only advantage with in hdmi amp i could see was it saved selecting your sound source to match the video.
Idea being, 1 hdmi cable to tv, then plug all else into the hdmi amp and select your single source from there. Audio and video is then selected at once. Much like the old media box's on previous pioneer panels. Also means you only need one socket to cover all eventualitys on the tv, an hdmi socket.
The onkyo hdmi amp i tried, was flawed though as it claimed to upscale, but it did so to a level lower than the picture quality i already had, and its menu was displayed in 4by3, not wide screen. So half a step forward and 5 steps back imho.
Lcd v plasma? I've yet to see lcd beet plasma re picture quality on comparable panels. However lcd is a good bit cheaper to make, if inferior slightly in quality to plasma. No experience of LED, although i hear its so vibrant as to be unrealistic, only what i hear though.
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LED backlit LCDs - they use the same panels as CFL LCD TVs but different backlights
As to quality - try the top of range Sonys X range I think
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LCD edges it in practical scenarios.
Samsung are excellent units, but do use the recommended settings founf on line (e.g. avforums).
I am surprised that some on here think that digital trickery such as image enhancement and sharpness settings can do any good to any picture so turn them all off!
And seperat component might edge over HDMI....if you could find a true HD component source in the first place (and even then its VERY questionable).
And why bugger around ever feeding video through an amp?
Only advantage with in hdmi amp i could see was it saved selecting your sound source to match the video.
Idea being, 1 hdmi cable to tv, then plug all else into the hdmi amp and select your single source from there. Audio and video is then selected at once. Much like the old media box's on previous pioneer panels. Also means you only need one socket to cover all eventualitys on the tv, an hdmi socket.
The onkyo hdmi amp i tried, was flawed though as it claimed to upscale, but it did so to a level lower than the picture quality i already had, and its menu was displayed in 4by3, not wide screen. So half a step forward and 5 steps back imho.
Lcd v plasma? I've yet to see lcd beet plasma re picture quality on comparable panels. However lcd is a good bit cheaper to make, if inferior slightly in quality to plasma. No experience of LED, although i hear its so vibrant as to be unrealistic, only what i hear though.
You will never get a real opinion until you mess with them in real life.....always ignore what you see in a shop!.
When I bought mine I spent over an hour trying settings on plasma and LCD panels and could get a better picture on an LCD every time.....it also REALLY pissed the shop staff off as I then went and bought it on line ;D
Indeed, when you FULLY understand the technology and how its driven and works you will soon appreciate how LCD can always win out over plasma.....you cant consider just the pixel technology alone. ;)
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LCD edges it in practical scenarios.
Samsung are excellent units, but do use the recommended settings founf on line (e.g. avforums).
I am surprised that some on here think that digital trickery such as image enhancement and sharpness settings can do any good to any picture so turn them all off!
And seperat component might edge over HDMI....if you could find a true HD component source in the first place (and even then its VERY questionable).
And why bugger around ever feeding video through an amp?
Only advantage with in hdmi amp i could see was it saved selecting your sound source to match the video.
Idea being, 1 hdmi cable to tv, then plug all else into the hdmi amp and select your single source from there. Audio and video is then selected at once. Much like the old media box's on previous pioneer panels. Also means you only need one socket to cover all eventualitys on the tv, an hdmi socket.
The onkyo hdmi amp i tried, was flawed though as it claimed to upscale, but it did so to a level lower than the picture quality i already had, and its menu was displayed in 4by3, not wide screen. So half a step forward and 5 steps back imho.
Lcd v plasma? I've yet to see lcd beet plasma re picture quality on comparable panels. However lcd is a good bit cheaper to make, if inferior slightly in quality to plasma. No experience of LED, although i hear its so vibrant as to be unrealistic, only what i hear though.
You will never get a real opinion until you mess with them in real life.....always ignore what you see in a shop!.
When I bought mine I spent over an hour trying settings on plasma and LCD panels and could get a better picture on an LCD every time.....it also REALLY pissed the shop staff off as I then went and bought it on line ;D
Indeed, when you FULLY understand the technology and how its driven and works you will soon appreciate how LCD can always win out over plasma.....you cant consider just the pixel technology alone. ;)
personal preference but i prefer plasma as it looks more natural, warm and lush plus excellent contrasts and response for fast moving images - lcd to me looks a bit "thin" with less depth - but really depends on the TV you could look at a badly set up plasma vs a perfectly set up LCD and vice versa - i'm a bit fussy tho :y
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personal preference but i prefer plasma as it looks more natural, warm and lush plus excellent contrasts and response for fast moving images - lcd to me looks a bit "thin" with less depth - but really depends on the TV you could look at a badly set up plasma vs a perfectly set up LCD and vice versa - i'm a bit fussy tho :y
The colour basis of LCD is actualy superior to that of plasma (Phosphors are less controlable from a colour perspective than LCD). In reality, there is nothing between them (GET THE SETTINGS CORRECT :y)
The contrast and response arguement is again a theoretical thing, in theory and when displaying a static image, the contrast may be better (only realy true of very dark v very light images) but, as soon as they are used in the real world, it drops off to zero advantage due to the considerable half life of the phosphors (turn off a CRT or plasma in a very dark room and see how light they look and for how long).
So again, marketing bull shite!
Note, all I am trying to do here is give information on the reality of the technologies. Not the sales hype. I to had a 50inch Pioneer plasma
I personaly (backed by many years in electronic design) have a big concern with the plasma drive chips.....they get VERY hot (and I am ignoring the actual display here) which does not bode well with long life and consistent image capabilities over life.
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Well... Having taken on board the comments here and a couple more reviews I found today (and chatting t my Old Man who is up to date with AV stuff) I have decided it's not a good enough deal to justify the compromises I would be making so I'll be keeping my pennies in my pocket and waiting for the sales to have another look :y :y :y
Thanks for the advice and opinions though
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Well... Having taken on board the comments here and a couple more reviews I found today (and chatting t my Old Man who is up to date with AV stuff) I have decided it's not a good enough deal to justify the compromises I would be making so I'll be keeping my pennies in my pocket and waiting for the sales to have another look :y :y :y
Thanks for the advice and opinions though
Sensible decision LD - look out for the Sony V W or X models I've just purchased a KDL 40 V 5500 which is quite impressive.
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Well... Having taken on board the comments here and a couple more reviews I found today (and chatting t my Old Man who is up to date with AV stuff) I have decided it's not a good enough deal to justify the compromises I would be making so I'll be keeping my pennies in my pocket and waiting for the sales to have another look :y :y :y
Thanks for the advice and opinions though
Sensible decision LD - look out for the Sony V W or X models I've just purchased a KDL 40 V 5500 which is quite impressive.
Exactly the same panels as the Samsungs :y
They have a shared production facility and development program :y
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Well... Having taken on board the comments here and a couple more reviews I found today (and chatting t my Old Man who is up to date with AV stuff) I have decided it's not a good enough deal to justify the compromises I would be making so I'll be keeping my pennies in my pocket and waiting for the sales to have another look :y :y :y
Thanks for the advice and opinions though
Sensible decision LD - look out for the Sony V W or X models I've just purchased a KDL 40 V 5500 which is quite impressive.
Exactly the same panels as the Samsungs :y
They have a shared production facility and development program :y
TBH, I'll probably look about for a Panasonic as they seem to be leaps and bounds ahead of the competition :y :y :y There's no real rush
Was more of an impulse buy really... I nearly walked out with it on Friday but I'm glad I didn't :y :y :y
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The one thing I will say is this......
IFfyou dont make such a purchase today....you may never will. Reality is if you are going to wait 3 months or so, you might as well wait 2 years for LED prices to drop and then you might as well wait 4 for OLED......yada yada yada ;D
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The one thing I will say is this......
IFfyou dont make such a purchase today....you may never will. Reality is if you are going to wait 3 months or so, you might as well wait 2 years for LED prices to drop and then you might as well wait 4 for OLED......yada yada yada ;D
Yep... Understand completely what you're saying ::) ::) ::)
That said... Christmas/Boxing Day sales are just around the corner and there's bound to be some good deals kicking about :y :y
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The one thing I will say is this......
IFfyou dont make such a purchase today....you may never will. Reality is if you are going to wait 3 months or so, you might as well wait 2 years for LED prices to drop and then you might as well wait 4 for OLED......yada yada yada ;D
Agreed, if you shop around at the moment there's some quite good deals available - I paid £649 for the Sony.
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The one thing I will say is this......
IFfyou dont make such a purchase today....you may never will. Reality is if you are going to wait 3 months or so, you might as well wait 2 years for LED prices to drop and then you might as well wait 4 for OLED......yada yada yada ;D
Yep... Understand completely what you're saying ::) ::) ::)
That said... Christmas/Boxing Day sales are just around the corner and there's bound to be some good deals kicking about :y :y
Interestingly, the better prices seem to be around Feb/March due to the usual sales drop and the dash for cash at year end :y
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Well... Having taken on board the comments here and a couple more reviews I found today (and chatting t my Old Man who is up to date with AV stuff) I have decided it's not a good enough deal to justify the compromises I would be making so I'll be keeping my pennies in my pocket and waiting for the sales to have another look :y :y :y
Thanks for the advice and opinions though
Sensible decision LD - look out for the Sony V W or X models I've just purchased a KDL 40 V 5500 which is quite impressive.
X best followed by W
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made the same decission to wait for the sales year before last. Prices of tv's didnt budge. The likes of richer sounds dont have a sale as such. They cant drop their prices any lower. Comet and currys may do, but they're not the cheapest anyway.
For me its a case of knowing exactly what model you want for your needs and wallet, and finding it at the best price. So i think your wise to leave it, not a spur of the moment decission, you'll be stuck with it for some time. Get the one you know you want imho. :-)
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Well... Having taken on board the comments here and a couple more reviews I found today (and chatting t my Old Man who is up to date with AV stuff) I have decided it's not a good enough deal to justify the compromises I would be making so I'll be keeping my pennies in my pocket and waiting for the sales to have another look :y :y :y
Thanks for the advice and opinions though
Sensible decision LD - look out for the Sony V W or X models I've just purchased a KDL 40 V 5500 which is quite impressive.
Exactly the same panels as the Samsungs :y
They have a shared production facility and development program :y
The drive electronics however are totally different
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Well... Having taken on board the comments here and a couple more reviews I found today (and chatting t my Old Man who is up to date with AV stuff) I have decided it's not a good enough deal to justify the compromises I would be making so I'll be keeping my pennies in my pocket and waiting for the sales to have another look :y :y :y
Thanks for the advice and opinions though
Sensible decision LD - look out for the Sony V W or X models I've just purchased a KDL 40 V 5500 which is quite impressive.
Exactly the same panels as the Samsungs :y
They have a shared production facility and development program :y
The drive electronics however are totally different
And make close to bugger all difference at full HD
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LCD edges it in practical scenarios.
Samsung are excellent units, but do use the recommended settings founf on line (e.g. avforums).
I am surprised that some on here think that digital trickery such as image enhancement and sharpness settings can do any good to any picture so turn them all off!
And seperat component might edge over HDMI....if you could find a true HD component source in the first place (and even then its VERY questionable).
And why bugger around ever feeding video through an amp?
Only advantage with in hdmi amp i could see was it saved selecting your sound source to match the video.
Idea being, 1 hdmi cable to tv, then plug all else into the hdmi amp and select your single source from there. Audio and video is then selected at once. Much like the old media box's on previous pioneer panels. Also means you only need one socket to cover all eventualitys on the tv, an hdmi socket.
The onkyo hdmi amp i tried, was flawed though as it claimed to upscale, but it did so to a level lower than the picture quality i already had, and its menu was displayed in 4by3, not wide screen. So half a step forward and 5 steps back imho.
Lcd v plasma? I've yet to see lcd beet plasma re picture quality on comparable panels. However lcd is a good bit cheaper to make, if inferior slightly in quality to plasma. No experience of LED, although i hear its so vibrant as to be unrealistic, only what i hear though.
You will never get a real opinion until you mess with them in real life.....always ignore what you see in a shop!.
When I bought mine I spent over an hour trying settings on plasma and LCD panels and could get a better picture on an LCD every time.....it also REALLY pissed the shop staff off as I then went and bought it on line ;D
Indeed, when you FULLY understand the technology and how its driven and works you will soon appreciate how LCD can always win out over plasma.....you cant consider just the pixel technology alone. ;)
Nah, sorry. I played and demo'd till blue in the face before buying. I knew what i wanted straight out and tried very hard to buy something else, could find nothing better for under a grand at the time, 2 years ago though so it may well have changed by now.
Every lcd even the top range stuff had a net curtain picture, like the sharpness was too high, but it didnt have a wide enough scale, all or nothing. Just could not tune it out. Uneven back lights as well.
I bow to you knowledge of course, it does get warm.
But as you'll recall i did mention lcd to be an easier and therefor cheaper technology. Trouble is, for me, it shows as cheap all to readilly in the picture.
I also know someone who bought a sony lcd and curses it as being a worse pic than his tube in sd for the same size screen. Settings most likely there i guess or hes watching through a scart or rf cable or something daft.
Anyway, for me at the time, it was plasma or stay with the tube. No question about it. :-)
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currently sat in wheels in motion waiting room. Their 50inch(plus?)panel tv is samsung and showing top gear on Dave. So is SD picture. I'm fairly sure to look at it, it's LCD. Dont like it at all.(as large panel tv's go of course.)
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currently sat in wheels in motion waiting room
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That reminds me. The marginal tread on my front tyres was blatantly obvious on the frosty roads this morning. ::)
Are you buying tyres?
Kevin
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Well... Having taken on board the comments here and a couple more reviews I found today (and chatting t my Old Man who is up to date with AV stuff) I have decided it's not a good enough deal to justify the compromises I would be making so I'll be keeping my pennies in my pocket and waiting for the sales to have another look :y :y :y
Thanks for the advice and opinions though
Sensible decision LD - look out for the Sony V W or X models I've just purchased a KDL 40 V 5500 which is quite impressive.
Exactly the same panels as the Samsungs :y
They have a shared production facility and development program :y
The drive electronics however are totally different
And make close to bugger all difference at full HD
Only as far as the average human eye is concerned.
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currently sat in wheels in motion waiting room
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That reminds me. The marginal tread on my front tyres was blatantly obvious on the frosty roads this morning. ::)
Are you buying tyres?
Kevin
Marginal? Not the Dunlops surely? :-X
Nah, set up. I cant get black boots to come down enough to beet my local guy for tyres. Although he(local guy) did me a deal last time after the falken disaster.
Only just got home.
Was just checking after re doing the rear bushes last weekend. Rear toe slightly out, and re correct a slight pull after they last looked at it a fortnight before. Sorted that, but they gave it back to me with the steering wheel off centre. Its still not right and had to battle home in mental traffic.
I'm thinking of modifieing a small spirit level with a bolt through each end and that fits on the radious of the middle of the stearing wheel/air bag cover to make sure its level. I'll donate it to them. Will save me a small fortune in gas on return visits. Grrrrr......
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Marginal? Not the Dunlops surely? :-X
No. I'm not that tight. ;D
Rotated the rears onto the front when they hit canvas wore to below 1.6mm.
Nah, set up. I cant get black boots to come down enough to beet my local guy for tyres. Although he(local guy) did me a deal last time after the falken disaster.
Micheldever?
I think they @rsed up the balancing of mine last time. They are good on price though. Internet prices without the hassle of searching. Just drive up.
Kevin
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Marginal? Not the Dunlops surely? :-X
No. I'm not that tight. ;D
Rotated the rears onto the front when they hit canvas wore to below 1.6mm.
Nah, set up. I cant get black boots to come down enough to beet my local guy for tyres. Although he(local guy) did me a deal last time after the falken disaster.
Micheldever?
I think they @rsed up the balancing of mine last time. They are good on price though. Internet prices without the hassle of searching. Just drive up.
Kevin
Yeah they are good, i use Britain tyres in Reading for tyres, but have to pre order, its a good half day or 4 hours to MD return trip and queue plus fuel. Set up depends where i am. If i'm in Reading or over a weekend i use Mdever for set up. If i'm at work in Sluff, i use Wim as its 30 mins away and can be home by 4.30 if they dont bugger it up. I think the steering wheel clamp slipped on the leather seat.
But with either company you need the right guy, Justin at MD and Tony at Wim IME.
Not known anyone beet MD on price realisticly once fitted. Trouble is they are a bit far from me.