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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Richie London on 14 December 2009, 19:09:50
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there is a van. registered in one persons name, i am the only person insured to drive it. but someone else is driving it uninsured, and i am sure is on a ban. now i have only just found out this about half hr ago. where do i stand if he gets pulled up and is found to have no insurance and no licence and its not even his name. i am going round in the morning as im furious as what ive found out.
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I take it you own this van? if so then if he is pulled you lose the van and have to pay through the nose to get it back... :-/
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get round there quick ;)
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I take it you own this van? if so then if he is pulled you lose the van and have to pay through the nose to get it back... :-/
no i dont own it, thats the thing. i thought it was a company insurance but its private, and i was supposed to drive it but i use mine so somebody without a licence is driving it and its been insured to get it on the database so he doesnt get pulled over. i dont work for the bloke now. its just a single cover insurance and im the only one insured to drive it.
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Who owns the van, a company or private individual, you? It is an offence to knowingly allow someone who does not have a valid licence or insurance to drive a vehicle you operate or own. If someone gets stopped by the police and it transpires they are not entitled to drive it, it'll be asked if they have the owners permission. Saying yes gets them in trouble (the owner) saying no admits TWOC.
Edit...ooops bit slow
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Who owns the van, a company or private individual, you? It is an offence to knowingly allow someone who does not have a valid licence or insurance to drive a vehicle you operate or own. If someone gets stopped by the police and it transpires they are not entitled to drive it, it'll be asked if they have the owners permission. Saying yes gets them in trouble (the owner) saying no admits TWOC.
Edit...ooops bit slow
im gonna get it cancelled in the morning but, ive been conned somewhere along the line, and im not being taken for a mug either.
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I personally would contact the please and report this person for driving the van without the owners permission, and for possibly driving it whilst disqualified. You will then be in the clear and have done your public duty.
Simples!! ;) ;)
PS Also let the owner know what has happened and the action you have taken.
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I personally would contact the please and report this person for driving the van without the owners permission, and for possibly driving it whilst disqualified. You will then be in the clear and have done your public duty.
Simples!! ;) ;)
PS Also let the owner know what has happened and the action you have taken.
not as easy as that lizzie reporting him, he lives in next rd from me and nobody likes a grass, id rather put my wheel brace across his head.
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I personally would contact the please and report this person for driving the van without the owners permission, and for possibly driving it whilst disqualified. You will then be in the clear and have done your public duty.
Simples!! ;) ;)
PS Also let the owner know what has happened and the action you have taken.
not as easy as that lizzie reporting him, he lives in next rd from me and nobody likes a grass, id rather put my wheel brace across his head.
I meant to type "police" NOT please!!
But obviously you knew that Richie, and I understand what you mean! Don't get yourself into trouble over scum though! :-* :-*
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..................in fact how about an anonymous "tip off" from a pay as you go phone? ;) ;)
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Ok so you don't own it and the V5 is not in your name?
Do you pay for insurance for it out of your own pocket to drive it?
If it passes an ANPR van it will be ok as it is 'insured' but the driver is not.
If you have no financial commitments to the van, cancel the policy, unless you still use the van?
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I would simply let the owner of the van know that he is breaking the law and, as you will not be driving the van ever again, it is pointless you being insured to do so.
If he doesn't take the hint................wheel brace :y
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Ok so you don't own it and the V5 is not in your name?
Do you pay for insurance for it out of your own pocket to drive it?
If it passes an ANPR van it will be ok as it is 'insured' but the driver is not.
If you have no financial commitments to the van, cancel the policy, unless you still use the van?
i dont know who its insured with. its on the askmid site as legal so he doesnt have to worry unless he gets a pull. i shall sort it in morning.
thanks everyone.
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Ok so you don't own it and the V5 is not in your name?
Do you pay for insurance for it out of your own pocket to drive it?
If it passes an ANPR van it will be ok as it is 'insured' but the driver is not.
If you have no financial commitments to the van, cancel the policy, unless you still use the van?
i dont know who its insured with. its on the askmid site as legal so he doesnt have to worry unless he gets a pull. i shall sort it in morning.
thanks everyone.
Thought you said you paid for insurance on it?
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Ok so you don't own it and the V5 is not in your name?
Do you pay for insurance for it out of your own pocket to drive it?
If it passes an ANPR van it will be ok as it is 'insured' but the driver is not.
If you have no financial commitments to the van, cancel the policy, unless you still use the van?
i dont know who its insured with. its on the askmid site as legal so he doesnt have to worry unless he gets a pull. i shall sort it in morning.
thanks everyone.
Thought you said you paid for insurance on it?
no my boss paid it. sorry
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so this is my theory,you work for a bloke who has a van and he is banned,you insure it and dont use it cos now you dont work for him and he is running round in it with your policy making the vehicle seem legal (anpr).cancel cancel cancel your open to so much grief,also i didnt think you could insure a vehicle unless its in your name.could be wrong,my theory could be wrong but either way get yourself out of it ;)
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Ok so you don't own it and the V5 is not in your name?
Do you pay for insurance for it out of your own pocket to drive it?
If it passes an ANPR van it will be ok as it is 'insured' but the driver is not.
If you have no financial commitments to the van, cancel the policy, unless you still use the van?
i dont know who its insured with. its on the askmid site as legal so he doesnt have to worry unless he gets a pull. i shall sort it in morning.
thanks everyone.
Thought you said you paid for insurance on it?
no my boss paid it. sorry
Then, as I said earlier, your boss is breaking the law.
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You want to put a wheel brace across someones barnet who is driving a motor vehicle that has no tie to you whatsoever (other than you being named as an insured driver at one point)?
It isn't registered to you, it's not your's in any way, shape, or form....just WTF are you worrying about dude?
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You want to put a wheel brace across someones barnet who is driving a motor vehicle that has no tie to you whatsoever (other than you being named as an insured driver at one point)?
It isn't registered to you, it's not your's in any way, shape, or form....just WTF are you worrying about dude?
thats what i was asking, if he gets pulled, and has no licence and the police would want to know who the insured driver is and why its in my name if i dont work for him, my boss would get done for letting him drive the car but how would it affect me as im the insured party that doesnt drive it. would it not be seen as some kind of fraud to keep the car on the rd for the banned driver to use.
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If the insurance certificate names you as the policy holder it would open a very wide door for the Police to utilise, if the other person was stopped, as to how you knew/did not know who was driving the car, irrespective of who the registered keeper is. Possibly liable for a cause/permit offence unless the vehicle taken without your permission, if ownership is in any way in doubt, if you follow.
Remember, the registered keeper does not have to neccessarily be the owner....
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If the insurance certificate names you as the policy holder it would open a very wide door for the Police to utilise, if the other person was stopped, as to how you knew/did not know who was driving the car, irrespective of who the registered keeper is. Possibly liable for a cause/permit offence unless the vehicle taken without your permission, if ownership is in any way in doubt, if you follow.
Remember, the registered keeper does not have to neccessarily be the owner....
thank you H21. im getting it cancelled in the morning.
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If your name is in any way linked to the vehicle you should report what's happening. It's not clear to me if your boss is the one driving it or if that's another party.
Either way, if there's any trouble whose details is he going to give if he does get pulled? Someone (the only person) who is insured to drive it perhaps?
So, you're involved whether you like it or not. Best you make your position clear to the Police before anything happens. You only have to suggest that the vehicle might be being driven illegally and that they might like to stop it.
Best that happens before someone gets their pride and joy, or, worse still, child, smashed up by another uninsured scum.
Kevin
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So assuming he isnt banned / ban run out...
he has the vans owner's permission to drive.
Does he have his own car, which may have an insurance policy allowing him to drive other vehicles 3rd party with permission?
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seen the bloke in question. his ban has expired but he hasnt bothered to re apply for his licence. the insurance is being cancelled today. so what i have done is wrote a letter saying as from today i am no longer the insured driver and i have informed my x emplyer that i wish my name to be taken off the insurance cover as i am no longer using the van. i have put this in an envelope sealed it, signed across the back where it is sealed and put it in the post to myself. any problems i can give this to the police unopened. and they can both get done for it.
i feel pretty chuffed that i didnt lose my rag like i ususally do :)
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I think Kevin is right - they were going to pretend to be you
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I think Kevin is right - they were going to pretend to be you
not possible, my licence has my pic and my cousin is at my local police station in the robbery squad so they would never get away with it. in all the years ive lived in the areas when ive been stopped i have been asked if i am related to edward and a few of them know me by face now. probably saved me a couple of points in the past ;)
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I think Kevin is right - they were going to pretend to be you
not possible, my licence has my pic and my cousin is at my local police station in the robbery squad so they would never get away with it. in all the years ive lived in the areas when ive been stopped i have been asked if i am related to edward and a few of them know me by face now. probably saved me a couple of points in the past ;)
Not gonna forget that, are they? ;D
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I think Kevin is right - they were going to pretend to be you
not possible, my licence has my pic and my cousin is at my local police station in the robbery squad so they would never get away with it. in all the years ive lived in the areas when ive been stopped i have been asked if i am related to edward and a few of them know me by face now. probably saved me a couple of points in the past ;)
Not gonna forget that, are they? ;D
too hansome to forget ;)