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Title: to all diesel owners
Post by: damage consultant on 15 December 2009, 16:10:37
Came across this website for converting diesels to veg oil/biofuel as longs it not a common rail :y [smiley=beer.gif]
http://www.dieselveg.com/
Title: Re: to all diesel owners
Post by: jerry on 15 December 2009, 16:34:31
Quite a few of the members on the Toyota Estima site have converted their diesels to veg oil and for anyone who is interested theres quite a bit of info on it on their TEOC forum. Seem to remember that outside temperature also makes a difference on performance and you have to alter the fuel makeup ratio accordingly.
Title: Re: to all diesel owners
Post by: tunnie on 15 December 2009, 16:35:48
The 2.5 TD won't take well to Veg oil not sure on the 2.2 DTi, main problem is injector pumps tend to fail early due to veggie oil being thicker than petrol
Title: Re: to all diesel owners
Post by: damage consultant on 15 December 2009, 17:17:41
the kit also comes with a 12v electric oil heater and a water heat exchanger to thin the viscousity and won't switch from diesel to veg until the oil is hot enough and engine must be stopped on diesel and started on diesel.
the main tank on the car is used for veg and a smaller 20l diesel in the boot for warming up.
they only recomend in winter to mix diesel in with the veg oil
Title: Re: to all diesel owners
Post by: smoothomega on 15 December 2009, 17:31:28
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The 2.5 TD won't take well to Veg oil not sure on the 2.2 DTi, main problem is injector pumps tend to fail early due to veggie oil being thicker than petrol

Thought we were on about diesel pumps lol  ::)
Title: Re: to all diesel owners
Post by: tunnie on 15 December 2009, 17:32:57
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The 2.5 TD won't take well to Veg oil not sure on the 2.2 DTi, main problem is injector pumps tend to fail early due to veggie oil being thicker than petrol

Thought we were on about diesel pumps lol  ::)

Ah yes dieeeeesel..... sorry mean to say veggie oil is thicker than diesel, a lot of pumps can't do it. no doubt because they are engineered to a cost
Title: Re: to all diesel owners
Post by: PC Techy on 15 December 2009, 18:20:31
http://www.dieselbob.co.uk/goodbad.asp  Little more info etc
Title: Re: to all diesel owners
Post by: doog on 15 December 2009, 18:26:49
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The 2.5 TD won't take well to Veg oil not sure on the 2.2 DTi, main problem is injector pumps tend to fail early due to veggie oil being thicker than petrol

not true
a friend of mine done 80,000 miles using used cooking oil which he filtered to 15 microns and mixed with 10% diesel

other than the more frequent fuel filter changes  he had problem free motoring untill he sold it at 160000 miles and bought a nissan

i ran it on a rover 600 untill last year with no issues at all   but it did kill my 2.0 astra diesel pump at 80k

the key is to mix it with diesel
Title: Re: to all diesel owners
Post by: Pitchfork on 15 December 2009, 18:56:33
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The 2.5 TD won't take well to Veg oil not sure on the 2.2 DTi, main problem is injector pumps tend to fail early due to veggie oil being thicker than petrol

Thought we were on about diesel pumps lol  ::)

Ah yes dieeeeesel..... sorry mean to say veggie oil is thicker than diesel, a lot of pumps can't do it. no doubt because they are engineered to a cost
Yes a very high one :P
Title: Re: to all diesel owners
Post by: waspy on 15 December 2009, 18:58:09
I ran my Rover 800 diesel on 75% veg & 25 diesel for a long time. I was hoping to do the same with the DTi that i have now, but apparently the pumps don't take too kindly to not having enough lubrication from the veg oil.
The Rover ran alot smoother, quieter, hardly smoked even under hard excelleration & gave more power on veg oil :)
Title: Re: to all diesel owners
Post by: Radiomarko on 15 December 2009, 21:47:45
I too ran cars on veg/diesel mix, without any mods. Does smell like a mobile chippy though.....

Ford Orion (what a horrible car) as a runabout did something like 25k miles on up to 80% (summer) rapeseed/diesel mix. Probably over 50mpg on a run, no engine issues. Xantia 1.9TD Bosch pump, similar mpg on a run, ran fine for several years. Then seals in the pump failed squirting fuel everywhere.

Dare not put any in the tractor though  :o