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Title: Now this takes the ssip big time
Post by: waspy on 17 December 2009, 15:29:35
My insurance is up for renewal in January. So i rang around a few insurance companies & also got some online quotes.
I'm currently unemployed so i told them the truth & my premium increases because of this reason.
On the cheapest qoutation my insurance rises by £111.00  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

So lets get this in perspective, i can't really afford to drive any were, because i don't get much money (£64.50 a week) so my mileage is very low, but i pay more for my insurance than someone who commutes to work every day in rush hour traffic.

Looks like i won't be having any insurance come January the 8th >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Now this really takes the SSIP
Title: Re: Now this takes the ssip big time
Post by: Richie London on 17 December 2009, 15:34:01
well if your unemployed you could use the car to do an armed robbery or burglay resulting in an accident which means your high risk  :)
Title: Re: Now this takes the ssip big time
Post by: tunnie on 17 December 2009, 15:34:56
i guess it puts you in a more high risk catagory  :-/
Title: Re: Now this takes the ssip big time
Post by: Richie London on 17 December 2009, 15:37:48
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i guess it puts you in a more high risk catagory  :-/


but how?? cant work that one out myself. seems a right con to me
Title: Re: Now this takes the ssip big time
Post by: tunnie on 17 December 2009, 15:41:21
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i guess it puts you in a more high risk catagory  :-/


but how?? cant work that one out myself. seems a right con to me

Quite easily, your car is never going to go to work, and be in a 'safe' work carpark. Its prob going to be in the same place for longer, so more likey to get nicked.

Your not going to have spare money to spend on it (according to them as your not getting an income)

Title: Re: Now this takes the ssip big time
Post by: Chris_H on 17 December 2009, 15:42:49
I'd have thought you'd have more time to keep an eye on it.
Insurance rarely goes down even with discounts.  Don't ask me why.  It's magic; and loaded magic at that.

I would try some brokers though.  You can sometimes bargain them down on a quoted premium.

I'm out of work but I haven't needed to declare that. My renewal via a broker came in at 50 squids less on my FFocus.

Will PM you.
Title: Re: Now this takes the ssip big time
Post by: waspy on 17 December 2009, 15:45:58
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i guess it puts you in a more high risk catagory  :-/


but how?? cant work that one out myself. seems a right con to me

Quite easily, your car is never going to go to work, and be in a 'safe' work carpark. Its prob going to be in the same place for longer, so more likey to get nicked.

Your not going to have spare money to spend on it (according to them as your not getting an income)



My cars parked in a locked garage
Title: Re: Now this takes the ssip big time
Post by: waspy on 17 December 2009, 15:55:32
One of the lowest professions is a bank manager WTF. I would say this job equates to more miles than someone who works in factory.
So you earn a nice wage every month as a bank manager (& probably pick up some nice fat bonuses at the tax payers expense), but pay less in car insurance.
Bank manager it is for from now on then. It doesn't pay to be honest
Title: Re: Now this takes the ssip big time
Post by: waspy on 17 December 2009, 15:58:07
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I'd have thought you'd have more time to keep an eye on it.
Insurance rarely goes down even with discounts.  Don't ask me why.  It's magic; and loaded magic at that.

I would try some brokers though.  You can sometimes bargain them down on a quoted premium.

I'm out of work but I haven't needed to declare that. My renewal via a broker came in at 50 squids less on my FFocus.

Will PM you.


Thank you Chris  :) :)

What makes so livid is the fact that i've NOT put myself outa work, but I AM paying for it big time.
Title: Re: Now this takes the ssip big time
Post by: STMO999 on 17 December 2009, 16:30:37
Never kick a man till he's down
Title: Re: Now this takes the ssip big time
Post by: Omegadoha, Desert Member on 17 December 2009, 18:15:10
I always thought that insurance companies only asked your occupation rather than whether you were actually in work?
Title: Re: Now this takes the ssip big time
Post by: albitz on 17 December 2009, 18:22:59
I was with Hastings Direct for a long time but have just changed to 1st central.Fully comp,zero voluntary excess,protected no claims.One accident,3 points. £175.well pleased. :)
Title: Re: Now this takes the ssip big time
Post by: waspy on 17 December 2009, 19:53:14
If i was an high risk i could understand it.
I'm 43 with a full clean licence & never had any convictions in 27 years of driving. i don't live in a high crime area, my car's garaged & i  don't drive any more than 5000 miles a year. So WTF is wrong :-? :-? :-? :-?
Title: Re: Now this takes the ssip big time
Post by: Ghost on 17 December 2009, 19:57:31
Its gone up as you do less miles so there is less of a chance you will put a claim in for damage, were as if you were working and driving to and from work every day you have more of a chance of having some prat damage your car and you then having to claim so they rais your priemium to get the money.
if you understand what i mean.
Title: Re: Now this takes the ssip big time
Post by: Richie London on 17 December 2009, 19:58:41
im self employed wether im working or not, im only unemployed when its to my advantage  ;)
Title: Re: Now this takes the ssip big time
Post by: albitz on 17 December 2009, 20:01:29
Shop around - go compare etc, it saved me a lot of money. :y
Title: Re: Now this takes the ssip big time
Post by: jereboam on 17 December 2009, 20:03:41
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If i was an high risk i could understand it.
I'm 43 with a full clean licence & never had any convictions in 27 years of driving. i don't live in a high crime area, my car's garaged & i  don't drive any more than 5000 miles a year. So WTF is wrong :-? :-? :-? :-?

What's wrong?  You told them you were unemployed, that's what's wrong. 

As you are unemployed, you are quite clearly a lazy, shiftless, wife-beating drunkard, living in luxury on the over-generous state benefits provided by our wonderful New Labour Government and its benevolent leader, Gordon Brown.  Never forget that our magnificent insurance companies are regulated by the FSA, the same people who were looking the other way when our glorious bankers brought us the Credit Crunch, which is probably why you are out of work.

They're all out to get you.   :(
Title: Re: Now this takes the ssip big time
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 17 December 2009, 20:06:10
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One of the lowest professions is a bank manager WTF. I would say this job equates to more miles than someone who works in factory.
So you earn a nice wage every month as a bank manager (& probably pick up some nice fat bonuses at the tax payers expense), but pay less in car insurance.
Bank manager it is for from now on then. It doesn't pay to be honest

Why not buy 2 piggy banks pete and put down you are a Piggy Bank Manager. (PBM)  ;D ;D

http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&source=hp&q=piggy+bank+manager&btnG=Google+Search&meta=&aq=f&oq=piggy+bank+manager&fp=177016bc12fe49d4
Title: Re: Now this takes the ssip big time
Post by: STMO999 on 17 December 2009, 20:31:35
Should have put 'Homemaker' or 'House husband'.
Title: Re: Now this takes the ssip big time
Post by: MickAP on 17 December 2009, 21:09:59
So what happens if you retire, I mean before the state retirement/pension age. Does it mean you pay more for insurance are you classed as unemployed or retired. Also does it affect you home insurance as well? that could go down as your at home all day.

Mick
Title: Re: Now this takes the ssip big time
Post by: waspy on 17 December 2009, 21:40:32
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So what happens if you retire, I mean before the state retirement/pension age. Does it mean you pay more for insurance are you classed as unemployed or retired. Also does it affect you home insurance as well? that could go down as your at home all day.

Mick

Mick, i was thinking the very same ;)

They all want gnikcuf with a pick axe in the head. They have REALLY wound me up with this >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Now this takes the ssip big time
Post by: jereboam on 17 December 2009, 22:00:47
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So what happens if you retire, I mean before the state retirement/pension age. Does it mean you pay more for insurance are you classed as unemployed or retired. Also does it affect you home insurance as well? that could go down as your at home all day.

Mick

Retired means that you are a fine, upstanding member of society who is now taking a well earned rest after contributing to general welfare for 40 years or more. 

It mustn't be confused with unemployed.

I'll be 64 in one month's time.  So in 13 months time, I'll be miraculously transformed from parasite to paragon.  Wonder what effect it will have on my insurance premiums? :)
Title: Re: Now this takes the ssip big time
Post by: hotel21 on 17 December 2009, 22:05:53
Regarding the 'retired' bit.  I am currently swithering whether to keep the 'retired police officer' bit or move over to 'part time driver, motor trade'....

Wonder which will attract the higher premium??   ;D
Title: Re: Now this takes the ssip big time
Post by: Vamps on 17 December 2009, 22:11:40
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Regarding the 'retired' bit.  I am currently swithering whether to keep the 'retired police officer' bit or move over to 'part time driver, motor trade'....

Wonder which will attract the higher premium??   ;D

Won't your current role in the workplace bring even more discount.. ;)
Title: Re: Now this takes the ssip big time
Post by: hotel21 on 17 December 2009, 22:12:32
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Regarding the 'retired' bit.  I am currently swithering whether to keep the 'retired police officer' bit or move over to 'part time driver, motor trade'....

Wonder which will attract the higher premium??   ;D

Won't your current role in the workplace bring even more discount.. ;)
Don't think so.  Motor Trade artracts a higher premium, as I understand it...
Title: Re: Now this takes the ssip big time
Post by: Entwood on 17 December 2009, 22:25:42
When I went from RAF SNCO to retired the premium went down... when I went from retired to part time court officer it went down again ...  :)
Title: Re: Now this takes the ssip big time
Post by: zirax on 17 December 2009, 23:34:45
When is your renewal up? I have been on the phone to a broker today and apparently the insurers get the new prices in on the 21st. I've just done a quote on the miggy, £650! (previous guides were about 400). I will try again in the new year as mine isn't due till the 28th.

To those considering different professions try this:-
http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/insurance/?tab=19

Still confused as to why my quote is so high, 26 with 8 years ncb  :-? It's probably due to putting down 20k/yr and business class 1.
Title: Re: Now this takes the ssip big time
Post by: waspy on 18 December 2009, 08:32:26
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When is your renewal up? I have been on the phone to a broker today and apparently the insurers get the new prices in on the 21st. I've just done a quote on the miggy, £650! (previous guides were about 400). I will try again in the new year as mine isn't due till the 28th.

To those considering different professions try this:-
http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/insurance/?tab=19

Still confused as to why my quote is so high, 26 with 8 years ncb  :-? It's probably due to putting down 20k/yr and business class 1.

The last day is the 7th of Jan. Your confused ::)
Title: Re: Now this takes the ssip big time
Post by: MickAP on 18 December 2009, 13:53:47
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So what happens if you retire, I mean before the state retirement/pension age. Does it mean you pay more for insurance are you classed as unemployed or retired. Also does it affect you home insurance as well? that could go down as your at home all day.

Mick

Mick, i was thinking the very same ;)

They all want gnikcuf with a pick axe in the head. They have REALLY wound me up with this >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

The reason for this thought was I may well be jobless soon. Plans are a foot to take voluntary early retirement, if the figures add up. Maybe got 2/3 years left at my job as it stands anyway, so jump now with a payoff or wait untill pushed with virtually nowt.

So on the insurance side, they would say unemployed as I am 56 next year. Got me thinking yep and poss paying more insurance for being unemployed.
They always ask when applying for insurance anyway...employment status, marital status and home owner or not. Obviously so they can fleece you accordingly.

Mick
Title: Re: Now this takes the ssip big time
Post by: Chris_H on 18 December 2009, 14:04:06
Penalising someone for being unemployed does not stack up.

If you declare it, you're possibly going to be working next week and for the rest of the policy duration.  Shift workers are 'unemployed' for various days of the week/month and contract workers for weeks on end (in my case months!).

It's like MOTs (only relevant on the day they were issued).  Unemployment most likely will not affect the entire duration of the actual insurance.