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Title: The Future of The Printed Word
Post by: Dusty on 30 December 2009, 16:52:42
I have a personal interest in the development of the e-reader. This news is what we've all been waiting for.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/dec/28/amazon-ebook-kindle-sales-surge
Title: Re: The Future of The Printed Word
Post by: HolyCount on 30 December 2009, 17:48:49
Don't like them !!!  OK -- they are good for travelling ( loads of books in one sort of thing ) ... but you can't beat paper and the smell and feel of older books .....

But then .. I am a "digital dinosaur"
Title: Re: The Future of The Printed Word
Post by: Dusty on 30 December 2009, 17:57:57
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Don't like them !!!  OK -- they are good for travelling ( loads of books in one sort of thing ) ... but you can't beat paper and the smell and feel of older books .....

But then .. I am a "digital dinosaur"


I would be interested to see your collection of 45's and 78's HC. ;D ;D :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: The Future of The Printed Word
Post by: Nickbat on 30 December 2009, 18:05:49
I personally dislike reading from screens even though I do it all day for work. When I'm reading for leisure I want to get away from screens. Also, I can't imagine a screen that works well on a sunny beach!  ;) ;D
Title: Re: The Future of The Printed Word
Post by: HolyCount on 30 December 2009, 18:07:09
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Don't like them !!!  OK -- they are good for travelling ( loads of books in one sort of thing ) ... but you can't beat paper and the smell and feel of older books .....

But then .. I am a "digital dinosaur"


I would be interested to see your collection of 45's and 78's HC. ;D ;D :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

OK .. I admit there isn't any vinyl or bakelite (?) based music in the house ( several thousand album's on MP3 tho!). Nor is there a video cassette anymore .... but I still like real books  ;D
Title: Re: The Future of The Printed Word
Post by: iggy21uk on 30 December 2009, 18:24:25
No ink, paechment were used in this thread so far..... so greenish!!!

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Title: Re: The Future of The Printed Word
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 30 December 2009, 20:01:53
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I personally dislike reading from screens even though I do it all day for work. When I'm reading for leisure I want to get away from screens. Also, I can't imagine a screen that works well on a sunny beach!  ;) ;D

cant say better.. :y

 I prefer to read from cellulose and ink not from electronic media.. ;D
Title: Re: The Future of The Printed Word
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 30 December 2009, 21:47:59
Doesn't do it for me I'm afraid.  I prefer the tactile nature of the printed medium. 

There’s something comforting about holding a book, its weight, the friendly rustle of the pages turning as it speaks to the reader in a way removed from the words printed on its paper.  The secrets held about the hands and eyes that explored its content in days past.

Books provide a real experience whilst screens remain sterile – in my unworthy opinion of course.
Title: Re: The Future of The Printed Word
Post by: STMO999 on 30 December 2009, 21:53:32
Off topic. Well done on your 5000 posts young Zulu. :y
Title: Re: The Future of The Printed Word
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 30 December 2009, 22:04:36
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Off topic. Well done on your 5000 posts young Zulu. :y


Thank you indeed, Sir :y :y
Title: Re: The Future of The Printed Word
Post by: HolyCount on 30 December 2009, 22:08:27
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Off topic. Well done on your 5000 posts young Zulu. :y


Thank you indeed, Sir :y :y

Indeed. Congratulations on your enoblement  :y
Title: Re: The Future of The Printed Word
Post by: tunnie on 30 December 2009, 22:09:07
i like gadgets, so i should like these, but i don't.

I really don't get the point in them, it takes me weeks to read a book, why would i want to carry 100's around on a PDA like device?

Pointless things really, and will never replace the printed word.
Title: Re: The Future of The Printed Word
Post by: HolyCount on 30 December 2009, 22:11:33
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i like gadgets, so i should like these, but i don't.

I really don't get the point in them, it takes me weeks to read a book, why would i want to carry 100's around on a PDA like device?

Pointless things really, and will never replace the printed word.

When I find a book I enjoy it usually takes me a couple of days to read it. When on hols in the South of France I get through 4 or 5 books, between usual holiday stuff  ::)
Title: Re: The Future of The Printed Word
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 30 December 2009, 22:11:43
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Off topic. Well done on your 5000 posts young Zulu. :y


Thank you indeed, Sir :y :y

Indeed. Congratulations on your enoblement  :y


Thank you HC :y
Title: Re: The Future of The Printed Word
Post by: tunnie on 30 December 2009, 22:14:18
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i like gadgets, so i should like these, but i don't.

I really don't get the point in them, it takes me weeks to read a book, why would i want to carry 100's around on a PDA like device?

Pointless things really, and will never replace the printed word.

When I find a book I enjoy it usually takes me a couple of days to read it. When on hols in the South of France I get through 4 or 5 books, between usual holiday stuff  ::)

I hardly read any more, when i did, it was on the train, so 1 hour each way, so a big book took a while.
Title: Re: The Future of The Printed Word
Post by: sexydaz on 31 December 2009, 01:51:02
theres some things the modern age should leave untouched and when the chips and processors go down it will be back to pen and paper.i love a good BOOK i was taught in school with em,we all at some point everyday read pen and ink so leave the future of paperback or a nice stiff binding alone you ds gits >:(
Title: Re: The Future of The Printed Word
Post by: TheBoy on 31 December 2009, 10:26:09
problem for you, Dusty, is I'm sure the DRM around Kindle is long broken, so everyone can read your work, but no income for you.
Title: Re: The Future of The Printed Word
Post by: Martin_1962 on 31 December 2009, 10:40:38
Kindle is not even a big seller, the EPub Ereaders are a lot more popular and the Amazon restricted unit cannot handle them.


IF I bought an Ereader it would be an EPub one not an Amazon one.
Title: Re: The Future of The Printed Word
Post by: TheBoy on 31 December 2009, 12:03:27
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Kindle is not even a big seller, the EPub Ereaders are a lot more popular and the Amazon restricted unit cannot handle them.


IF I bought an Ereader it would be an EPub one not an Amazon one.
I think Kindle is selling well - its from the largest book seller, and its cracked.
Title: Re: The Future of The Printed Word
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 31 December 2009, 12:28:42
Ten year from now e-readers .........will be significantly less expensive....and probably far more tactile to use.....they may even become flexible and bendy.........even look and smell like an old book.....but loaded with the latest technology.
......look at watches today.......traditional appearance...combined with the latest most accurate technology. :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: The Future of The Printed Word
Post by: Martin_1962 on 31 December 2009, 20:25:24
Looking at the ones available now I think an old model Sony is among the best (505 I think) better & cheaper than the newer ones and very readable.

The Kindle is locked to Amazon, can auto delete stuff and also has a big keyboard - lets have smaller form factor or bigger screen.

Would be good for technical stuff but I still really like paper books
Title: Re: The Future of The Printed Word
Post by: TheBoy on 01 January 2010, 09:17:48
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Looking at the ones available now I think an old model Sony is among the best (505 I think) better & cheaper than the newer ones and very readable.

The Kindle is locked to Amazon, can auto delete stuff and also has a big keyboard - lets have smaller form factor or bigger screen.

Would be good for technical stuff but I still really like paper books
There is a world beyond Sony. Its a very nice world.


I nearly bought a cheap Sony 32" off a mate for a handful of tenners, but decided against it, as if I used it, I would stick my fist through it. And it would be unfair on him if I sold it straight on for a 300% profit (people pay daft money due to the badge)
Title: Re: The Future of The Printed Word
Post by: Martin_1962 on 01 January 2010, 11:38:35
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Looking at the ones available now I think an old model Sony is among the best (505 I think) better & cheaper than the newer ones and very readable.

The Kindle is locked to Amazon, can auto delete stuff and also has a big keyboard - lets have smaller form factor or bigger screen.

Would be good for technical stuff but I still really like paper books
There is a world beyond Sony. Its a very nice world.


I nearly bought a cheap Sony 32" off a mate for a handful of tenners, but decided against it, as if I used it, I would stick my fist through it. And it would be unfair on him if I sold it straight on for a 300% profit (people pay daft money due to the badge)


With Ereaders though it is a world beyond Amazon - there are quite a few good readers but I only know about 3 or 4 of them, and the screen in the old SOny is well rated
Title: Re: The Future of The Printed Word
Post by: jerry on 01 January 2010, 11:43:03
have to agree with Holy Count as I too am a bit of a ludite when it comes to things like this. I can see the usefulness of the e-reader when travelling in that it takes up less room (tho can see Cem's point about sunglare on screen ), but it cant take away the feel and the experience of physically reading a book anymore, to my mind , than a CD can replace the pleasure of holding a vinyl album in your hand and the more clinically sterile sound of digital replace the fuzzy warmth of analogue/valve (though even I confess that DVD is a vast improvement on VHS if not actual film!) See-told you I was a ludite! ;D.Of course my better half is all for this conversion to the digital in that she feels we would gain masses of space in the house should I loose my collection of  hundreds of albums/ books...Not the same though is it?
Title: Re: The Future of The Printed Word
Post by: jereboam on 01 January 2010, 11:55:58
The Future of the Printed Word.

I just can't imagine using an electronic display, however good it may be, as a replacement for a book in a recreational context. 

Nice warm living room, curtains drawn, comfortable armchair and a leather bound edition of Bleak House - I can picture that.

Nice warm living room, curtains drawn, comfortable armchair and a plastic thingy with The Complete Works of Charles Dickens, W.M. Thackeray and Anthony Trollope, with illustrations by Jackson Pollock, Andy Warhol and Gerald Scarfe - nah, just doesn't ring the same bells.
Title: Re: The Future of The Printed Word
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 01 January 2010, 12:08:56
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The Future of the Printed Word.

I just can't imagine using an electronic display, however good it may be, as a replacement for a book in a recreational context. 

Nice warm living room, curtains drawn, comfortable armchair and a leather bound edition of Bleak House - I can picture that.

Nice warm living room, curtains drawn, comfortable armchair and a plastic thingy with The Complete Works of Charles Dickens, W.M. Thackeray and Anthony Trollope, with illustrations by Jackson Pollock, Andy Warhol and Gerald Scarfe - nah, just doesn't ring the same bells.



Nice warm living room, curtains drawn, comfortable armchair and a leather bound edition of ( a particular favourite) - I can picture that.

Now you’re tootin' J 8-) :y :y

There's something organic about it, wholesome, almost spiritual - a splendid way to spend an evening :y :y
Title: Re: The Future of The Printed Word
Post by: jereboam on 01 January 2010, 12:53:37
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The Future of the Printed Word.

I just can't imagine using an electronic display, however good it may be, as a replacement for a book in a recreational context. 

Nice warm living room, curtains drawn, comfortable armchair and a leather bound edition of Bleak House - I can picture that.

Nice warm living room, curtains drawn, comfortable armchair and a plastic thingy with The Complete Works of Charles Dickens, W.M. Thackeray and Anthony Trollope, with illustrations by Jackson Pollock, Andy Warhol and Gerald Scarfe - nah, just doesn't ring the same bells.



Nice warm living room, curtains drawn, comfortable armchair and a leather bound edition of ( a particular favourite) - I can picture that.

Now you’re tootin' J 8-) :y :y

There's something organic about it, wholesome, almost spiritual - a splendid way to spend an evening :y :y

To be honest (1): I'm more of a Terry Pratchett type than a Charles Dickens type these days, but I don't think they do leather bound editions of Mr. Pratchett's Works.

To be honest (2): I don't actually possess any leather bound editions of anything I'm ever likely to read.

It's the principle of the thing I'm on about, and the leather bound volumes present the appropriate image. 

I'm wasted in IT - maybe I should look for a job in advertising. :) :) :)
Title: Re: The Future of The Printed Word
Post by: HolyCount on 01 January 2010, 13:02:07
I have nothing collectable in my meagre book collection  :'(  I do have a few limited, private print run editions which are a nearing the 200 year old mark and you can't beat that olde booke smell  ;D

I tend to read "pop" literature ... Dan Browne ... almost anything fact or fiction regarding the Knights Templar ... all of Bernard Knight's "Crowner" books ... Ursula LeGuin ...... etc. etc
Title: Re: The Future of The Printed Word
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 01 January 2010, 16:42:12
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The Future of the Printed Word.

I just can't imagine using an electronic display, however good it may be, as a replacement for a book in a recreational context. 

Nice warm living room, curtains drawn, comfortable armchair and a leather bound edition of Bleak House - I can picture that.

Nice warm living room, curtains drawn, comfortable armchair and a plastic thingy with The Complete Works of Charles Dickens, W.M. Thackeray and Anthony Trollope, with illustrations by Jackson Pollock, Andy Warhol and Gerald Scarfe - nah, just doesn't ring the same bells.



Nice warm living room, curtains drawn, comfortable armchair and a leather bound edition of ( a particular favourite) - I can picture that.

Now you’re tootin' J 8-) :y :y

There's something organic about it, wholesome, almost spiritual - a splendid way to spend an evening :y :y

To be honest (1): I'm more of a Terry Pratchett type than a Charles Dickens type these days, but I don't think they do leather bound editions of Mr. Pratchett's Works.

To be honest (2): I don't actually possess any leather bound editions of anything I'm ever likely to read.

It's the principle of the thing I'm on about, and the leather bound volumes present the appropriate image. 

I'm wasted in IT - maybe I should look for a job in advertising. :) :) :)

You'd never make it in advertising J - you're too honest - what? ;) ;) :y

Title: Re: The Future of The Printed Word
Post by: jereboam on 01 January 2010, 17:35:32
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You'd never make it in advertising J - you're too honest - what? ;) ;) :y


If you believe that, then I really do belong in advertising.   :) :) :)