BT Broadband as with other service providers slow the service down between 6pm and midnight, or there would not be enough bandwidth to go around.dont work
Try a speedtest at
http://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?rh1dkyd2
BT Broadband as with other service providers slow the service down between 6pm and midnight, or there would not be enough bandwidth to go around.Not entirely correct ;)
Try a speedtest at
http://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?rh1dkyd2
Plusnet at 19:03meaningless
2790 Kbps download
681 upload
Is that good?
please elucidateMost ISPs shape their traffic to give artificially high speedtests, which don't match reality.
This is what I usedQuoteplease elucidateMost ISPs shape their traffic to give artificially high speedtests, which don't match reality.
Plusnet are rumoured to be particularly bad for this.
So all speedtests via the ISP are meaningless.
BT Broadband as with other service providers slow the service down between 6pm and midnight, or there would not be enough bandwidth to go around.
Try a speedtest at
http://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?rh1dkyd2
same hereQuoteBT Broadband as with other service providers slow the service down between 6pm and midnight, or there would not be enough bandwidth to go around.
Try a speedtest at
http://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?rh1dkyd2
If I use that site I get the following.(Something called Shields Up)Port Authority Edition – Internet Vulnerability Profiling[/b]
by Steve Gibson, Gibson Research Corporation.
Browser Reload Suppressed
For your security, your web browser's "reload"
function has been temporarily disabled
Allowing a web browser to "reload" a page which has already been sent to you creates a "security hole" that would allow someone using your computer at any later time to attain potentially private and personal information.
To safeguard your privacy we have disabled the browser's "reload" or "refresh" facility while you are in sensitive areas of our web site. Reloading pages will function normally once you have left this area . . . but until then please refrain from "reloading" pages.
You may press your browser's [BACK] button now to return to the page prior to the one you were just viewing.
Thanks very much for your interest and patronage.
QuoteBT Broadband as with other service providers slow the service down between 6pm and midnight, or there would not be enough bandwidth to go around.
Try a speedtest at
http://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?rh1dkyd2
If I use that site I get the following.(Something called Shields Up)Port Authority Edition – Internet Vulnerability Profiling[/b]
by Steve Gibson, Gibson Research Corporation.
Browser Reload Suppressed
For your security, your web browser's "reload"
function has been temporarily disabled
Allowing a web browser to "reload" a page which has already been sent to you creates a "security hole" that would allow someone using your computer at any later time to attain potentially private and personal information.
To safeguard your privacy we have disabled the browser's "reload" or "refresh" facility while you are in sensitive areas of our web site. Reloading pages will function normally once you have left this area . . . but until then please refrain from "reloading" pages.
You may press your browser's [BACK] button now to return to the page prior to the one you were just viewing.
Thanks very much for your interest and patronage.
And equally a bad one, infamous for overblowing minor and non-issues, just to get his face in the pressQuoteQuoteBT Broadband as with other service providers slow the service down between 6pm and midnight, or there would not be enough bandwidth to go around.
Try a speedtest at
http://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?rh1dkyd2
If I use that site I get the following.(Something called Shields Up)Port Authority Edition – Internet Vulnerability Profiling[/b]
by Steve Gibson, Gibson Research Corporation.
Browser Reload Suppressed
For your security, your web browser's "reload"
function has been temporarily disabled
Allowing a web browser to "reload" a page which has already been sent to you creates a "security hole" that would allow someone using your computer at any later time to attain potentially private and personal information.
To safeguard your privacy we have disabled the browser's "reload" or "refresh" facility while you are in sensitive areas of our web site. Reloading pages will function normally once you have left this area . . . but until then please refrain from "reloading" pages.
You may press your browser's [BACK] button now to return to the page prior to the one you were just viewing.
Thanks very much for your interest and patronage.
I get the same thing - back and forward buttons in IE are disabled.
I haven't used ShieldsUp for a couple of years - used to be an excellent reference site for testing PC security before personal firewalls became common. Gibson Research used to have a good reputation.
6374kbpsQuoteThis is what I usedQuoteplease elucidateMost ISPs shape their traffic to give artificially high speedtests, which don't match reality.
Plusnet are rumoured to be particularly bad for this.
So all speedtests via the ISP are meaningless.
www.mybroadbandspeed.co.uk
OK, let me put it another way:The online scanner was decent enough, as long as you didn't read the descriptions for problems found.
Gibson Research used to have a good reputation amongst those tinkerers with PCs who didn't earn their living that way. We had few alternative tools for testing our internet and LAN security.
Know where your Home Gateway is? If its Brum, I'm in that room on Friday, I could give it a good kicking if that helps (it won't, but would make me feel better!)
It was the HG I was after, not the exchange...QuoteKnow where your Home Gateway is? If its Brum, I'm in that room on Friday, I could give it a good kicking if that helps (it won't, but would make me feel better!)
I know it is the Fernhill Heath exchange - where I live is badly sorted for BB, that is why I was ISDN for so long.
Anyway give it a good kick anyway - can't do any harm. Currently 1472D and 64U with loss of BB every couple of hours.
Rebooting the BTHH does nothing now >:( >:(
QuoteThis is what I usedQuoteplease elucidateMost ISPs shape their traffic to give artificially high speedtests, which don't match reality.
Plusnet are rumoured to be particularly bad for this.
So all speedtests via the ISP are meaningless.
www.mybroadbandspeed.co.uk
QuoteIt was the HG I was after, not the exchange...QuoteKnow where your Home Gateway is? If its Brum, I'm in that room on Friday, I could give it a good kicking if that helps (it won't, but would make me feel better!)
I know it is the Fernhill Heath exchange - where I live is badly sorted for BB, that is why I was ISDN for so long.
Anyway give it a good kick anyway - can't do any harm. Currently 1472D and 64U with loss of BB every couple of hours.
Rebooting the BTHH does nothing now >:( >:(
Usual shite - disconnect all extns, hub in main socket with a filter, see what happensQuoteQuoteThis is what I usedQuoteplease elucidateMost ISPs shape their traffic to give artificially high speedtests, which don't match reality.
Plusnet are rumoured to be particularly bad for this.
So all speedtests via the ISP are meaningless.
www.mybroadbandspeed.co.uk
(http://www.mybroadbandspeed.co.uk/results/9367451.png)
QuoteUsual shite - disconnect all extns, hub in main socket with a filter, see what happensQuoteQuoteThis is what I usedQuoteplease elucidateMost ISPs shape their traffic to give artificially high speedtests, which don't match reality.
Plusnet are rumoured to be particularly bad for this.
So all speedtests via the ISP are meaningless.
www.mybroadbandspeed.co.uk
(http://www.mybroadbandspeed.co.uk/results/9367451.png)
Did you try different filters whilst in that condition? Any noise on the pstn line?QuoteQuoteUsual shite - disconnect all extns, hub in main socket with a filter, see what happensQuoteQuoteThis is what I usedQuoteplease elucidateMost ISPs shape their traffic to give artificially high speedtests, which don't match reality.
Plusnet are rumoured to be particularly bad for this.
So all speedtests via the ISP are meaningless.
www.mybroadbandspeed.co.uk
(http://www.mybroadbandspeed.co.uk/results/9367451.png)
Did that with the Indian people - no difference
I think he lost a load of face when XP was launched over raw sockets. I guess he thought he was more important than he really was...He lost completely when he got buttf**ked by a 13 year old and couldn't work out how it had been done ;D
Yeah, showed how little he did really understand IP. A fairly simple attack, and fairly common (even then).QuoteI think he lost a load of face when XP was launched over raw sockets. I guess he thought he was more important than he really was...He lost completely when he got buttf**ked by a 13 year old and couldn't work out how it had been done ;D
Even slower now :o :o :o :oTried the wholesale speed tester, the one that bypasses the ISP?
Will try to obtain another microfilter but it is now sub ISDN !!!!
This is like using a modem!!!!
Actually, ignore that - you may still be on Central Plus platform (do you have to provide an internet username and password so router can log on to isp?)QuoteEven slower now :o :o :o :oTried the wholesale speed tester, the one that bypasses the ISP?
Will try to obtain another microfilter but it is now sub ISDN !!!!
This is like using a modem!!!!
QuoteActually, ignore that - you may still be on Central Plus platform (do you have to provide an internet username and password so router can log on to isp?)QuoteEven slower now :o :o :o :oTried the wholesale speed tester, the one that bypasses the ISP?
Will try to obtain another microfilter but it is now sub ISDN !!!!
This is like using a modem!!!!
What are the ADSL stats e.g. Noise margin and attenuation?
What are the ADSL stats e.g. Noise margin and attenuation?Off a BT Homehub??? ;D
Connectivity to Gateway (217.47.86.250)Looks like you off one of the Birmingham Home Gateways, as I suspected.
Martin - fix that bloody wireless as well!!! Won't be your current issue (unless they have knobbled you bad for someone doing too much p2p), but try and use something remotely secure. Or disable it.
QuoteWhat are the ADSL stats e.g. Noise margin and attenuation?Off a BT Homehub??? ;D
You're having a Bobby Moore, ain't you!!!
Your up SN is pretty low which will be limiting the up bandwidth....down looks fine though
If you have eliminated all your stuff (wiring, filters, hub, extns, phones), then its for your ISP to get BT to fix itQuoteYour up SN is pretty low which will be limiting the up bandwidth....down looks fine though
So how do I fix it?
Thanks
Can also easily get it if you put alcatel's f/w back onQuoteQuoteWhat are the ADSL stats e.g. Noise margin and attenuation?Off a BT Homehub??? ;D
You're having a Bobby Moore, ain't you!!!
I seem to recall being able to get the details by runnning Hub Manager
Select Advanced/Status/ADSL Line/Details.
I don't have to but the router has a username of bthomehub@btbroadband.com but no passwordI'd move up to WPA at the very least, and WPA2 if your hardware can manage it.
Connectivity to Gateway (217.47.86.250)
Troubleshooting
Information for Helpdesk agents
Product Name BT Home Hub
Firmware Version 6.2.6.E
Board Version V10
ADSL Uptime 0 days, 0:47:27
Bandwidth 64 / 864
Broadband Username bthomehub@btbroadband.com
Wireless Security WEP-64
Wireless Channel 7
Firewall Standard
VPI/VCI 0 / 38
Line Profile Interleaved
Wi-Fi Community No
QuoteI don't have to but the router has a username of bthomehub@btbroadband.com but no passwordI'd move up to WPA at the very least, and WPA2 if your hardware can manage it.
Connectivity to Gateway (217.47.86.250)
Troubleshooting
Information for Helpdesk agents
Product Name BT Home Hub
Firmware Version 6.2.6.E
Board Version V10
ADSL Uptime 0 days, 0:47:27
Bandwidth 64 / 864
Broadband Username bthomehub@btbroadband.com
Wireless Security WEP-64
Wireless Channel 7
Firewall Standard
VPI/VCI 0 / 38
Line Profile Interleaved
Wi-Fi Community No
WEP can be broken in under a minute with ease, and the only knowledge required to do it is to look on YouTube.
He has already said his crap hardware only supports WEP. Don't know enough about the DS to comment - Mrs TB's DS never connects to wifi.QuoteI don't have to but the router has a username of bthomehub@btbroadband.com but no passwordI'd move up to WPA at the very least, and WPA2 if your hardware can manage it.
Connectivity to Gateway (217.47.86.250)
Troubleshooting
Information for Helpdesk agents
Product Name BT Home Hub
Firmware Version 6.2.6.E
Board Version V10
ADSL Uptime 0 days, 0:47:27
Bandwidth 64 / 864
Broadband Username bthomehub@btbroadband.com
Wireless Security WEP-64
Wireless Channel 7
Firewall Standard
VPI/VCI 0 / 38
Line Profile Interleaved
Wi-Fi Community No
WEP can be broken in under a minute with ease, and the only knowledge required to do it is to look on YouTube.
QuoteIf you have eliminated all your stuff (wiring, filters, hub, extns, phones), then its for your ISP to get BT to fix itQuoteYour up SN is pretty low which will be limiting the up bandwidth....down looks fine though
So how do I fix it?
Thanks
QuoteCan also easily get it if you put alcatel's f/w back onQuoteQuoteWhat are the ADSL stats e.g. Noise margin and attenuation?Off a BT Homehub??? ;D
You're having a Bobby Moore, ain't you!!!
I seem to recall being able to get the details by runnning Hub Manager
Select Advanced/Status/ADSL Line/Details.
Well with wireless - 2 DSs they can ****** off, or I can break into someone elses wifi (joke)
PS3, and Wiiiii
I may cable the PS3 but I know it can do WPA, don't know about the Wiiiii
Yep, if it still as bad plugged directly into the master socket then and you have eliminated micro filters (although you can do a test on the master without one) and any possible new noise sources then its a call to the isp to investigate
Well with wireless - 2 DSs they can ****** off, or I can break into someone elses wifi (joke)The Wii does WPA2
PS3, and Wiiiii
I may cable the PS3 but I know it can do WPA, don't know about the Wiiiii
Will move to WPA at the weekend then, but that is not my issue here
Have you disconnected ALL you phone extns at the master socket, and plugged the router into master socket. IMPORTANT!QuoteQuoteIf you have eliminated all your stuff (wiring, filters, hub, extns, phones), then its for your ISP to get BT to fix itQuoteYour up SN is pretty low which will be limiting the up bandwidth....down looks fine though
So how do I fix it?
Thanks
PC->ethernet->HH->ADSL Filter->Socket
My ISP is BT
Take the cover off and plug straight in without a filter....
Use a lead from a phone ;)QuoteTake the cover off and plug straight in without a filter....
It won't fit - the router doesn't use a phone jack
Router filter master socket a bit quickerpotentiall removes some/all of your internal extension wiring
1568 down
256 up
So what does removing the cover actually do?
Still a lot down from 2800/448
QuoteRouter filter master socket a bit quickerpotentiall removes some/all of your internal extension wiring
1568 down
256 up
So what does removing the cover actually do?
Still a lot down from 2800/448
No, play a wait and see game for about 2-4hrs, see if the speed retrains upwards.QuoteQuoteRouter filter master socket a bit quickerpotentiall removes some/all of your internal extension wiring
1568 down
256 up
So what does removing the cover actually do?
Still a lot down from 2800/448
All installed by BT as well - should I rewire the extension?
As an aside, but related to one of Martin Imber's comments, BT supplied and fitted extension phone sockets are guaranteed for 1yr, then become the responsibility of the subscriber.
(This is only for premises fitted with NTE5A or NTE5B termination points - older style master/secondaries don't have a defined network termination, so BT cover all)
Those 2 wires should not touch each other or anything else. Good place to start if it is proven the extn is at fault is the socket itself - look for signs of dampness (particularly if in window (always seem to have lots of sockets fitted in window), or other damp places - kitchen etc). The sockets cannot be dried.QuoteAs an aside, but related to one of Martin Imber's comments, BT supplied and fitted extension phone sockets are guaranteed for 1yr, then become the responsibility of the subscriber.
(This is only for premises fitted with NTE5A or NTE5B termination points - older style master/secondaries don't have a defined network termination, so BT cover all)
Only 2 wires for the extension, what should or could I test with a multimeter?
Sure its not a problem in your house, but when I used to fix phones, people overrun with pets, you could guarantee the dog/cat/rabbit had pissed up the socket, causing a fault. Could normally tell which socket as soon as you knelt down - if your knee was wet, you weren't far off!QuoteAs an aside, but related to one of Martin Imber's comments, BT supplied and fitted extension phone sockets are guaranteed for 1yr, then become the responsibility of the subscriber.
(This is only for premises fitted with NTE5A or NTE5B termination points - older style master/secondaries don't have a defined network termination, so BT cover all)
Only 2 wires for the extension, what should or could I test with a multimeter?
Blue pair go into the back of the master socket and orange pair off the front plate. Phone on extension is dead, green pair unconnectedhmmm, that sounds a bit bodged. Ho hum.
Dark cable from master goes along side of house and reenters the house at a BT labelled cover, the other socket uses a light grey cable.If you had a poor connection, you would hear a crackle on the line. Also, line would tend to drop if you picked up phone.
So there are some joins under there am I allowed to have a look?
QuoteDark cable from master goes along side of house and reenters the house at a BT labelled cover, the other socket uses a light grey cable.If you had a poor connection, you would hear a crackle on the line. Also, line would tend to drop if you picked up phone.
So there are some joins under there am I allowed to have a look?
On that basis, assuming your filter and hub are OK, I'd suggest line fault.
for testing, no real config - as you are central plus, just plug it in :)QuoteQuoteDark cable from master goes along side of house and reenters the house at a BT labelled cover, the other socket uses a light grey cable.If you had a poor connection, you would hear a crackle on the line. Also, line would tend to drop if you picked up phone.
So there are some joins under there am I allowed to have a look?
On that basis, assuming your filter and hub are OK, I'd suggest line fault.
No crackles
I have a spre home hub - if the line comes back clear I will try that - and spend ages reconfiguring everything
Had a lookBT are repsonsible up to the test socket behind the lower plate on the NTE5. This is assuming you have not illicitally connected stuff before this point (which is a criminal act)
Orange pair in dark insulation are joined ti the light insulation blue pair, a dark insulation blue pair are joined to some other wires.
Dry but full of dust & dirt
sealed plastic joiners.
THis would be part of the external line and therefore BT responsible wouldn't it?
Quotefor testing, no real config - as you are central plus, just plug it in :)QuoteQuoteDark cable from master goes along side of house and reenters the house at a BT labelled cover, the other socket uses a light grey cable.If you had a poor connection, you would hear a crackle on the line. Also, line would tend to drop if you picked up phone.
So there are some joins under there am I allowed to have a look?
On that basis, assuming your filter and hub are OK, I'd suggest line fault.
No crackles
I have a spre home hub - if the line comes back clear I will try that - and spend ages reconfiguring everything
I need to get my hands on a hub to do some further testing - had to give the last one back :'(QuoteQuotefor testing, no real config - as you are central plus, just plug it in :)QuoteQuoteDark cable from master goes along side of house and reenters the house at a BT labelled cover, the other socket uses a light grey cable.If you had a poor connection, you would hear a crackle on the line. Also, line would tend to drop if you picked up phone.
So there are some joins under there am I allowed to have a look?
On that basis, assuming your filter and hub are OK, I'd suggest line fault.
No crackles
I have a spre home hub - if the line comes back clear I will try that - and spend ages reconfiguring everything
Will get from loft later
I actually wanted the hub phone - but they sent me another hub instead
QuoteI need to get my hands on a hub to do some further testing - had to give the last one back :'(QuoteQuotefor testing, no real config - as you are central plus, just plug it in :)QuoteQuoteDark cable from master goes along side of house and reenters the house at a BT labelled cover, the other socket uses a light grey cable.If you had a poor connection, you would hear a crackle on the line. Also, line would tend to drop if you picked up phone.
So there are some joins under there am I allowed to have a look?
On that basis, assuming your filter and hub are OK, I'd suggest line fault.
No crackles
I have a spre home hub - if the line comes back clear I will try that - and spend ages reconfiguring everything
Will get from loft later
I actually wanted the hub phone - but they sent me another hub instead
Wondering if it uses the standard Thomson firmware, and if so, if it can deal with multiple subnets.
QuoteI need to get my hands on a hub to do some further testing - had to give the last one back :'(QuoteQuotefor testing, no real config - as you are central plus, just plug it in :)QuoteQuoteDark cable from master goes along side of house and reenters the house at a BT labelled cover, the other socket uses a light grey cable.If you had a poor connection, you would hear a crackle on the line. Also, line would tend to drop if you picked up phone.
So there are some joins under there am I allowed to have a look?
On that basis, assuming your filter and hub are OK, I'd suggest line fault.
No crackles
I have a spre home hub - if the line comes back clear I will try that - and spend ages reconfiguring everything
Will get from loft later
I actually wanted the hub phone - but they sent me another hub instead
Wondering if it uses the standard Thomson firmware, and if so, if it can deal with multiple subnets.