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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: hoofing it on 08 January 2010, 19:48:59
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went to work in my diesel meega no probs started up the lorry went for a cup of tea to let things warm up 30mins later left the yard got a 100yrds down the road engine stops mechanic shocked to find the fuel lines had froze so much for the fuel tank warmers ;D ;D ;D boss none to happy ;D ;D
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I thought diesel these days had additives to stop freezing? :-/
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I seem to remember a good few years back the motorway was full of immobile trucke due to the diesel freezing. The drivers lit fires underneath them (Not recommended).
I thought there was some kind of additive to stop it happening now. :-/
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went to work in my diesel meega no probs started up the lorry went for a cup of tea to let things warm up 30mins later left the yard got a 100yrds down the road engine stops mechanic shocked to find the fuel lines had froze so much for the fuel tank warmers ;D ;D ;D boss none to happy ;D ;D
Ive never known that,so it must be cold. :o
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the fuel pipes run down the chassis from the tank to get an idea of how cold it was I licked my finger and touched the chassis my finger stuck.
The mechanic said because of the narrow pipe and distance it travels to the engine and sitting against the cold metal are the cause of it freezing well he used the term gelling up.
So its now parked up in the shed to warm it up for monday.
my car showed -16.5 when left home the truck showed -18.
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I use a diesel additive called 'Heet' in the tractor and Landy......it prevents gelling in the lines and subsequent strainer/filter blockage.
IME: 'Cherry' diesel seems to gel at even higher temps than DERV....I use 110 volt 'block heaters' in both diesels, so the spare heat from them (under the bonnet) seems to keep the worst of the overnight frigidity at bay.
IIRC: The 'Cloud Point' of typical Red diesel ranges in temperature from 20F to as high as 40F., whereas DERV diesel has a cloud point of -40F.
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I seem to remember a good few years back the motorway was full of immobile trucke due to the diesel freezing. The drivers lit fires underneath them (Not recommended).
I thought there was some kind of additive to stop it happening now. :-/
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Once watched something on Siberian winters, they used to go out in a morning and light fires to defrost/thaw the tanks out.
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I use a diesel additive called 'Heet' in the tractor and Landy......it prevents gelling in the lines and subsequent strainer/filter blockage.
IME: 'Cherry' diesel seems to gel at even higher temps than DERV....I use 110 volt 'block heaters' in both diesels, so the spare heat from them (under the bonnet) seems to keep the worst of the overnight frigidity at bay.
IIRC: The 'Cloud Point' of typical Red diesel ranges in temperature from 20F to as high as 40F., whereas DERV diesel has a cloud point of -40F.
Is that hot or cold :-/
I havent a clue ::)....i was educated when Celcius was all the rage ::) :D
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Is that hot or cold :-/
I havent a clue ::)....i was educated when Celcius was all the rage ::) :D
-40F. = -40 C. (parity-point)
20F. = -6.5 C.
40F. = 4.5 C.
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Is that hot or cold :-/
I havent a clue ::)....i was educated when Celcius was all the rage ::) :D
-40F. = -40 C. (parity-point)
20F. = -6.5 C.
40F. = 4.5 C.
Should have made him do it himself .. only way a youngster will learn ... :)
F to C ... subtract 32, multiply by 5, divide by 9
C to F .... multiply by 9, divide by 5, add 32
Simple innit .. :)
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Is that hot or cold :-/
I havent a clue ::)....i was educated when Celcius was all the rage ::) :D
-40F. = -40 C. (parity-point)
20F. = -6.5 C.
40F. = 4.5 C.
Should have made him do it himself .. only way a youngster will learn ... :)
F to C ... subtract 32, multiply by 5, divide by 9
C to F .... multiply by 9, divide by 5, add 32
Simple innit .. :)
Converter on my mobile phone is even more simple.
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I thought diesel these days had additives to stop freezing? :-/
It does, but only to a point.
Isuzu have it right - tank heater, line heater, pump heater...it just starts & runs ;)
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went to work in my diesel meega no probs started up the lorry went for a cup of tea to let things warm up 30mins later left the yard got a 100yrds down the road engine stops mechanic shocked to find the fuel lines had froze so much for the fuel tank warmers ;D ;D ;D boss none to happy ;D ;D
Ive never known that,so it must be cold. :o
I was stationed in the Outer Hebrides back in the early 70's we used to put industrial blowers on the tanks, or at least point them at them, or put a small fire under it, how the hell nobody got killed is beyond me. That's the REME for you inventive as ever still the workshop never caught light.
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That's the REME for you inventive as ever still the workshop never caught light.
Nowt wrong with REME.
My BBQ, bike, and all the other shit that has been built (courtesy of the British taxpayer) has worked first time, every time, without incident ;)
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Just p!ss in the tank before driving off. That'll warm it up and probably increase the octane level too.... ::) ::)
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REME. Ruin Everything Mechanical Eventually.
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REME. Ruin Everything Mechanical Eventually.
Only when it belongs to the Army.....when it's your own shit then it's done right ;)
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REME. Ruin Everything Mechanical Eventually.
Only when it belongs to the Army.....when it's your own shit then it's done right ;)
REME used to come and calibrate our kit, and lord it over us. But we had a few surprises for them............ ;D
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Theres an easy way to stop diesel geling up just add a couple of gallons of parrafin to tank thats what we used to do in winter time when going over to italy ,or failing that the the feul companys should start selling the lower temp diesel like the do on continent in winter
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REME used to come and calibrate our kit, and lord it over us. But we had a few surprises for them............ ;D
I'm sure you did Steve, but that was all work related crap I'm guessing.
My bike was built pretty much from the ground up in a REME workshop, and my friend ensured that everything was bang on the money (including organisng a laserline jig for when we built the frame).
However the military vehicles that were in for servicing/repair, even I as a "noob" in that field wouldn't have trusted the crap they were sending back out of the door.
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I seem to remember a good few years back the motorway was full of immobile trucke due to the diesel freezing. The drivers lit fires underneath them (Not recommended).
I thought there was some kind of additive to stop it happening now. :-/
I remember, again many years ago, going out to the Motorway with a 2 inch blow torch to warm up the tank and pipes of trucks :D :D Guess the H&S brigade would have a fit these days...... :-X
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Theres an easy way to stop diesel geling up just add a couple of gallons of parrafin to tank thats what we used to do in winter time when going over to italy ,or failing that the the feul companys should start selling the lower temp diesel like the do on continent in winter
OK in an old school oil burner, do that to the new fangled crap with it's surfeit of electronics and you won't be going very far at all.
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Very true , we were running 3300 ATI and 95 dafs at the time ;) ;) ;) there was'nt much electronic wizardry in them really
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REME. Ruin Everything Mechanical Eventually.
Only when it belongs to the Army.....when it's your own shit then it's done right ;)
REME used to come and calibrate our kit, and lord it over us. But we had a few surprises for them............ ;D
Didnt know they had a REME workshop at Colchester. :-/ ::) ;) :D ;D ;D
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REME used to come and calibrate our kit, and lord it over us. But we had a few surprises for them............ ;D
I'm sure you did Steve, but that was all work related crap I'm guessing.
My bike was built pretty much from the ground up in a REME workshop, and my friend ensured that everything was bang on the money (including organisng a laserline jig for when we built the frame).
However the military vehicles that were in for servicing/repair, even I as a "noob" in that field wouldn't have trusted the crap they were sending back out of the door.
That's the 'M' for mechanical. I'm talking about the 'E' for electrical. Thought they were a cut above the sigs.
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REME. Ruin Everything Mechanical Eventually.
Only when it belongs to the Army.....when it's your own shit then it's done right ;)
REME used to come and calibrate our kit, and lord it over us. But we had a few surprises for them............ ;D
Didnt know they had a REME workshop at Colchester. :-/ ::) ;) :D ;D ;D
I have no idea what you're talking about Albs. ;D
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REME used to come and calibrate our kit, and lord it over us. But we had a few surprises for them............ ;D
I'm sure you did Steve, but that was all work related crap I'm guessing.
My bike was built pretty much from the ground up in a REME workshop, and my friend ensured that everything was bang on the money (including organisng a laserline jig for when we built the frame).
However the military vehicles that were in for servicing/repair, even I as a "noob" in that field wouldn't have trusted the crap they were sending back out of the door.
That's the 'M' for mechanical. I'm talking about the 'E' for electrical. Thought they were a cut above the sigs.
I did my own wiring Steve, and I never actually made it through the door for the military (refused on medical grounds).
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REME. Ruin Everything Mechanical Eventually.
Only when it belongs to the Army.....when it's your own shit then it's done right ;)
REME used to come and calibrate our kit, and lord it over us. But we had a few surprises for them............ ;D
Didnt know they had a REME workshop at Colchester. :-/ ::) ;) :D ;D ;D
I have no idea what you're talking about Albs. ;D
You fibber. :P :D ;D
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My future stepson in law is in 33 batt REME i believe he built the barbeq that they currently using at camp bastion.....Mind ya i dont think he will too impressed when he comes home in april and finds out his Fiancee has used de icer inside of his pride and joy..... ::) ::) ::) :P