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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Tony H on 09 January 2010, 17:07:48
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All the current pressure on 4x4 owners to get rid of there gas guzzlers may backfire due to the current weather conditions. If I owned one it would be the ideal opportunity to stick two fingers up to the green lobby. The totally inadequate attempt by councils up and down the country to improve road safety by gritting has brought four wheel drive into a league of it's own, and the fact that some 4x4 drivers are actually being praised for using there vehicals to help out communitys with anything from recovery stranded cars to delivering meals on wheels to elderly people. If I owned I would certainly think twice about getting rid of it now.
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Agreed, lots of stories of them getting involved with helping others, and for that they should be thanked......!!!!
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As much as I usually slag off 4x4 drivers that are not using them for professional needs, I must say Tony you are right that they have come into their own over recent weeks! :y :y
Come the spring though it will all be forgotton, and the anti-4x4 stance will continue..... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)
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Must confess... I am missing the Rangie at the moment :( :(
Around here the 4x4 club is always on standby... they're currently helping Doctors/Paramedics get about plus on call with the Police to clear hills :y :y :y
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I've used mine as much as possible to tow people etc. I've a friend in Thames Valley Police, so have been helping the odd police vehicle if it's gotten stuck, also gave south central ambulance a call to give them my number and told them if they're stuck to give me a ring if the ambulance is near. Pulled a Sprinter 316 ambulance out of a small untreated road. There's nothing I can do in these weather conditons so may aswell do something useful rather than just sit at home.
I must admit though, meeting new people never does any harm to my business, selling cars. The ambulance crew took a business card, already had a call from one of their partners looking for a car :y
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aye it would of been nice to have seen a car stranded and offer your help only to see the person in trouble sat there in his jag stuck and with a flat battery cold and hungry and yes you see its the man who decided to bump up the price on yer car tax so yer select low box lock yer diffs and f@*k off leavin him in yer own little snow shower :y
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Must confess... I am missing the Rangie at the moment :( :(
Around here the 4x4 club is always on standby... they're currently helping Doctors/Paramedics get about plus on call with the Police to clear hills :y :y :y
Hills in Suffolk! Since when? :D
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I have thought about getting a 4x4 on many occasions, mainly for towing the caravan. I can't really justify owning one though as I don't camp in muddy fields or wish to go off road. And how often do we get extreme weather condition like now, well enough to justify a 4x4 down our way.
The estate does the job well.
Good on all the 4x4 brigade for helping out. Agreed they will be under fire again and taxed heavily again as soon as all gets back to normal.
Mick ;)
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we have a stealth 4x4 - its a 2000 model ford galaxy but it was one of a very few that had the 4 wheel drivetrain set up, it looks no different to a standard galaxy and you get 7 seats.
I carry a towing strap, shovel and a bag of grit in the back and have stopped to help a few people over the past few days. What I have noticed though is that some people I have stopped to help have been really rude - no smiling, no thanks and some have just driven off when you unhook them just staring at you like it was your fault they were stuck in the first place.
Darren
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Must confess... I am missing the Rangie at the moment :( :(
Around here the 4x4 club is always on standby... they're currently helping Doctors/Paramedics get about plus on call with the Police to clear hills :y :y :y
Hills in Suffolk! Since when? :D
There aren't many but the ones we do have tend to be either quite steep or long and gentle ::) ::)
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Problem is that you won't need one again for the next 30 years till the next bad winter!
I am thinking of getting a UK one IF/WHEN my Omega fails its MOT next week. They are all going for daft money now .
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Went out to help a lass push off an Astra this aft from being stuck in a small drift outside the front of my house.
Big fat git driving it, two big fat lasses in the car and none of them got out to help push their own car.
I said to the big fat git to put it in third and go easy on the clutch- he listened the third time - and me and this other lass managed to push it off and of he went with a cheery pip pip on his horn, windows down and all three occupants waving out the windows!
I turned to this other lass and said that I don't believe it (in a Victor Meldrew stylee) and she said that she's stopped to help and was going to tow them out with her Suzuki Jimny, but aparently, the big fat git just said "No ta" and sat there spinning the wheels in 1st and reverse gears until I got there. The lass (that had stopped), had got a shovel from her Suzy and was trying t clear the snow from the front wheels of the Astra - again, no help form the occupants.
Some people...............
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no wonder they are fat >:(
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no wonder they are fat >:(
Hahaha - yep!!! :y
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In my experiece 4x4 drivers below the age of 50 have been obnoxious pratts that only have those vehicles because they are big and the only time they remotely need a 4x4 is to tow their jet ski etc.
There are two that will just stop, one either side of the road and have a chat whilst cars queue to pass single file between them.
Often see one Muscle Mary park his Chelsea Tractor on the No Parking area directly outside the entrance of our local Tesco and go shopping.
Three times in the last week I've seen 4x4's crossing a solid white line whilst overtaking a vehicle, that wasn't hanging about itself.
Obviously this is only my personal opinion, and I am well aware there are some that genuinely need a 4x4, but to the majority around here that "may" need a 4x4 a few days a year I say learn to drive properly.
There should be an exemption for those that can prove they need them, and as for the school run and Muscle Mary brigade, they should be hammered with a tax.
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Went out to help a lass push off an Astra this aft from being stuck in a small drift outside the front of my house.
Big fat git driving it, two big fat lasses in the car and none of them got out to help push their own car.
I said to the big fat git to put it in third and go easy on the clutch- he listened the third time - and me and this other lass managed to push it off and of he went with a cheery pip pip on his horn, windows down and all three occupants waving out the windows!
I turned to this other lass and said that I don't believe it (in a Victor Meldrew stylee) and she said that she's stopped to help and was going to tow them out with her Suzuki Jimny, but aparently, the big fat git just said "No ta" and sat there spinning the wheels in 1st and reverse gears until I got there. The lass (that had stopped), had got a shovel from her Suzy and was trying t clear the snow from the front wheels of the Astra - again, no help form the occupants.
Some people...............
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I had a pair of young lasses push me earlier. Pretty little things. I was nearly tempted to drive around the block, and get stuck again ;D
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wee bit of pre determined stereotyping of 4x4 owners on here eh ::)
Seriously though - not a lot beats powersliding a v8 Rangie in a foot of snow - neighbours house is still pebbledashed :D
As for pulling people out of ditches, not my job, admiral as is.
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wee bit of pre determined stereotyping of 4x4 owners on here eh ::)
Seriously though - not a lot beats powersliding a v8 Rangie in a foot of snow - neighbours house is still pebbledashed :D
As for pulling people out of ditches, not my job, admiral as is.
WOW !!! :o ::)
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I drive a Range Rover. Why should I be hammered by tax Turk?
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I drive a Range Rover. Why should I be hammered by tax Turk?
If you genuinely need a large 4x4, then I don't think you should have to pay a higher tax. :y
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i had a discovery and the reason i got it was my family grew and the extra seats came in handy sometimes but main reason theres too many knobs on the roads these days and i wanted to raise my kids above the height of the average bonnet,i will get another
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I cannot understand why anyone thinks they have the right to prevent others the right of choice. >:(
We have a 4x4 and that's what will replace my Omega when that time comes.
Pretty soon the roads will in such a state that they will be the only vehicle that can be safely driven.
All these "Prats " stopping to talk to each other or blocking the roads when they drop the kids off at school would do it with or without a 4X4.
Obnoxious Bad drivers are just that and come in 2 wheel drive format too.
The biggest cretin behind the wheel I've ever met drives a Audi B7 RS4 but that's not the car's fault.
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I had a pair of young lasses push me earlier. Pretty little things. I was nearly tempted to drive around the block, and get stuck again ;D
::) Did they leave their paw marks all over your grimey rear-end? :P
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I cannot understand why anyone thinks they have the right to prevent others the right of choice. >:(
We have a 4x4 and that's what will replace my Omega when that time comes.
Pretty soon the roads will in such a state that they will be the only vehicle that can be safely driven.
All these "Prats " stopping to talk to each other or blocking the roads when they drop the kids off at school would do it with or without a 4X4.
Obnoxious Bad drivers are just that and come in 2 wheel drive format too.
The biggest cretin behind the wheel I've ever met drives a Audi B7 RS4 but that's not the car's fault.
The recent cold snap has made a right mess of the roads roung here. Powerful stuff water, when it freezes and expands.
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The recent cold snap has made a right mess of the roads roung here. Powerful stuff water, when it freezes and expands.
Aye, there`ll be a price to pay long after the big-thaw! :'(
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I cannot understand why anyone thinks they have the right to prevent others the right of choice. >:(
Agreed entirely. 4x4 drivers are often car enthusiasts just the same as those who drive large "guzzling" V6 saloons, sports cars capable of travelling at "irresponsible" speeds, people who like to build their own kit cars, etc.
Those who would prevent 4x4 drivers from enjoying their vehicles would just as happily jump on any flavour of petrol head and have us all driving Trabants.
United we stand....
Kevin
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I cannot understand why anyone thinks they have the right to prevent others the right of choice. >:(
Agreed entirely. 4x4 drivers are often car enthusiasts just the same as those who drive large "guzzling" V6 saloons, sports cars capable of travelling at "irresponsible" speeds, people who like to build their own kit cars, etc.
Those who would prevent 4x4 drivers from enjoying their vehicles would just as happily jump on any flavour of petrol head and have us all driving Trabants.
United we stand....
Kevin
....and if the verdant lunatic-fringe get their way:
United we fall! :'(
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...and from a safety point of view, simply a must have for the mummy on the urban school run, to protect the kids in the event of a collision with one of the many large 4x4 go-anywhere, all terrain, off road vehicles that always seem to be around at urban school run time.
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...and from a safety point of view, simply a must have for the mummy on the urban school run, to protect the kids in the event of a collision with one of the many large 4x4 go-anywhere, all terrain, off road vehicles that always seem to be around at urban school run time.
In certain areas. Certainly not in mine.
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...and from a safety point of view, simply a must have for the mummy on the urban school run, to protect the kids in the event of a collision with one of the many large 4x4 go-anywhere, all terrain, off road vehicles that always seem to be around at urban school run time.
I find mainly people carriers when I drop my daughter off, quite a few newish hatches, the odd Range Rover and once a Porsche
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I have a Discovery and the wife has the omega now. This week it was the only way to get to work and take the lads in as well as the normal cars they have just would not do it. On Wednesday i pulled another car out after it was stuck in the snow i also took a few co-workers home as it was the only way. For this i should pay more tax! No. It is a 2000 reg and does not come under the new tax law. I did not ask one penny from any of them as i would like to think they would do the same for me if i needed help.
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...and from a safety point of view, simply a must have for the mummy on the urban school run, to protect the kids in the event of a collision with one of the many large 4x4 go-anywhere, all terrain, off road vehicles that always seem to be around at urban school run time.
In certain areas. Certainly not in mine.
We drive what we drive for various reasons, and there are also poor drivers to be found in every type of vehicle.
It has been known for me to be flinging an Omega down a twisty lane at ten tenths. Probably just as ridiculous a sight given that it's a vehicle more suited to eating miles on an autobahn at three figure speeds.
If the government / green lobby / whoever had succeeded in persuading all 4x4 owners off the road with their taxes and mud slinging we'd have been in a much worse state this last week, that's for sure.
Kevin
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In general the 4 x 4 owners have done a sterling job in helping others down here. But I did come across a guy taking advantage of the situation. He was cruising up and down Southwick hill and approaching stranded cars charging £10 a go to tow them up the hill if they got stuck. No tenner no tow. Fair enough for covering cost of diesel but I think he was being a bit excessive. :o :o
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In general the 4 x 4 owners have done a sterling job in helping others down here. But I did come across a guy taking advantage of the situation. He was cruising up and down Southwick hill and approaching stranded cars a go to tow them up the hill if they got stuck. No tenner no tow. Fair enough for covering cost of diesel but I think he was being a bit excessive. :o :o
Thats NOT in the spirit of things >:( I'd have told him to break off and would have shoved a spud up his exaust when he wasn't watching :)
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There's good and bad in every walk of life, the thread was about 4x4's and that's my opinion of a fair few 4x4 owners (not all) in my area.
I know one owner that would do absolutely anything for anyone, and not ask for a penny. I could phone him and say I'm stuck 200 miles away and he'd come to help, but as a rule around here, especially the pillocks with the "blinged up" shiny black vehicles with big rims and low profile tyres (w.t...?!?) that would never dream of getting it dirty, I have no time for them what so ever.
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There's good and bad in every walk of life, the thread was about 4x4's and that's my opinion of a fair few 4x4 owners (not all) in my area.
I know one owner that would do absolutely anything for anyone, and not ask for a penny. I could phone him and say I'm stuck 200 miles away and he'd come to help, but as a rule around here, especially the pillocks with the "blinged up" shiny black vehicles with big rims and low profile tyres (w.t...?!?) that would never dream of getting it dirty, I have no time for them what so ever.
Ahh. Got you. I know the type. :y They'd be as much use as a choccy fireguard in the snow anyway with their 285/35VR22s on. ;D
Kevin
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There's good and bad in every walk of life, the thread was about 4x4's and that's my opinion of a fair few 4x4 owners (not all) in my area.
I know one owner that would do absolutely anything for anyone, and not ask for a penny. I could phone him and say I'm stuck 200 miles away and he'd come to help, but as a rule around here, especially the pillocks with the "blinged up" shiny black vehicles with big rims and low profile tyres (w.t...?!?) that would never dream of getting it dirty, I have no time for them what so ever.
Ahh. Got you. I know the type. :y They'd be as much use as a choccy fireguard in the snow anyway with their 285/35VR22s on. ;D
Kevin
Bit like this one....
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2007-57-LAND-ROVER-RANGE-ROVER-SPORT-PROJECT-KAHN_W0QQitemZ190363157636QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item2c52874484
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Bit like this one....
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2007-57-LAND-ROVER-RANGE-ROVER-SPORT-PROJECT-KAHN_W0QQitemZ190363157636QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item2c52874484
Suitable only as a platform for the sale of counterfeit watches!
Kevin
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As used by Pimps AND Drug Dealers too. >:(
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There's good and bad in every walk of life, the thread was about 4x4's and that's my opinion of a fair few 4x4 owners (not all) in my area.
I know one owner that would do absolutely anything for anyone, and not ask for a penny. I could phone him and say I'm stuck 200 miles away and he'd come to help, but as a rule around here, especially the pillocks with the "blinged up" shiny black vehicles with big rims and low profile tyres (w.t...?!?) that would never dream of getting it dirty, I have no time for them what so ever.
Ahh. Got you. I know the type. :y They'd be as much use as a choccy fireguard in the snow anyway with their 285/35VR22s on. ;D
Kevin
Bit like this one....
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2007-57-LAND-ROVER-RANGE-ROVER-SPORT-PROJECT-KAHN_W0QQitemZ190363157636QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item2c52874484
That's up to £30300 at the mo. Dont think I'd chance that kind of money on ebay.
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There's good and bad in every walk of life, the thread was about 4x4's and that's my opinion of a fair few 4x4 owners (not all) in my area.
I know one owner that would do absolutely anything for anyone, and not ask for a penny. I could phone him and say I'm stuck 200 miles away and he'd come to help, but as a rule around here, especially the pillocks with the "blinged up" shiny black vehicles with big rims and low profile tyres (w.t...?!?) that would never dream of getting it dirty, I have no time for them what so ever.
Ahh. Got you. I know the type. :y They'd be as much use as a choccy fireguard in the snow anyway with their 285/35VR22s on. ;D
Kevin
Bit like this one....
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2007-57-LAND-ROVER-RANGE-ROVER-SPORT-PROJECT-KAHN_W0QQitemZ190363157636QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item2c52874484
That's up to £30300 at the mo. Dont think I'd chance that kind of money on ebay.
That depends on the chance of how many lost rocks you might find down the back of the seats to offset the purchase price ::)
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There's good and bad in every walk of life, the thread was about 4x4's and that's my opinion of a fair few 4x4 owners (not all) in my area.
I know one owner that would do absolutely anything for anyone, and not ask for a penny. I could phone him and say I'm stuck 200 miles away and he'd come to help, but as a rule around here, especially the pillocks with the "blinged up" shiny black vehicles with big rims and low profile tyres (w.t...?!?) that would never dream of getting it dirty, I have no time for them what so ever.
Ahh. Got you. I know the type. :y They'd be as much use as a choccy fireguard in the snow anyway with their 285/35VR22s on. ;D
Kevin
Bit like this one....
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2007-57-LAND-ROVER-RANGE-ROVER-SPORT-PROJECT-KAHN_W0QQitemZ190363157636QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item2c52874484
That's up to £30300 at the mo. Dont think I'd chance that kind of money on ebay.
That depends on the chance of how many lost rocks you might find down the back of the seats to offset the purchase price ::)
I wouldn't sell them.
I'd smoke them. ;D
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There's good and bad in every walk of life, the thread was about 4x4's and that's my opinion of a fair few 4x4 owners (not all) in my area.
I know one owner that would do absolutely anything for anyone, and not ask for a penny. I could phone him and say I'm stuck 200 miles away and he'd come to help, but as a rule around here, especially the pillocks with the "blinged up" shiny black vehicles with big rims and low profile tyres (w.t...?!?) that would never dream of getting it dirty, I have no time for them what so ever.
Ahh. Got you. I know the type. :y They'd be as much use as a choccy fireguard in the snow anyway with their 285/35VR22s on. ;D
Kevin
Bit like this one....
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2007-57-LAND-ROVER-RANGE-ROVER-SPORT-PROJECT-KAHN_W0QQitemZ190363157636QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item2c52874484
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Yep, that's the kind. Tossers !
This afternoon at Dyfatty lights, Swansea (Plomien will know the ones), there was LWB Shogun three cars back in the queue to turn right, the driver was blasting his horn and flashing his lights at the cars in front to go. Next thing, he pulls into the left hand "straight ahead only" lane, undertakes the two cars and cuts across to turn down onto New Cut Rd. Obviously unaware that if the green arrow is not illuminated, he's running a red light.
What a Pajero !! ;D
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There's good and bad in every walk of life, the thread was about 4x4's and that's my opinion of a fair few 4x4 owners (not all) in my area.
I know one owner that would do absolutely anything for anyone, and not ask for a penny. I could phone him and say I'm stuck 200 miles away and he'd come to help, but as a rule around here, especially the pillocks with the "blinged up" shiny black vehicles with big rims and low profile tyres (w.t...?!?) that would never dream of getting it dirty, I have no time for them what so ever.
Ahh. Got you. I know the type. :y They'd be as much use as a choccy fireguard in the snow anyway with their 285/35VR22s on. ;D
Kevin
Bit like this one....
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2007-57-LAND-ROVER-RANGE-ROVER-SPORT-PROJECT-KAHN_W0QQitemZ190363157636QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item2c52874484
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Yep, that's the kind. Tossers !
This afternoon at Dyfatty lights, Swansea (Plomien will know the ones), there was LWB Shogun three cars back in the queue to turn right, the driver was blasting his horn and flashing his lights at the cars in front to go. Next thing, he pulls into the left hand "straight ahead only" lane, undertakes the two cars and cuts across to turn down onto New Cut Rd. Obviously unaware that if the green arrow is not illuminated, he's running a red light.
What a Pajero !! ;D
Ah, the old mitsubishi shotgun. ;D