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Title: Snow clearing
Post by: pscocoa on 10 January 2010, 08:43:52
I like this

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bradford/8449515.stm
Title: Re: Snow clearing
Post by: tunnie on 10 January 2010, 08:47:46
He should send the specs / how too on that to Debs!
Title: Re: Snow clearing
Post by: pscocoa on 10 January 2010, 08:53:33
I suppose it is too much to expect local Councils to consider fitting them to the front of council vehicles (which we have paid for of course) to help clear side roads etc. A council worker may slip of course so this could not be allowed.
Title: Re: Snow clearing
Post by: tunnie on 10 January 2010, 08:59:49
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I suppose it is too much to expect local Councils to consider fitting them to the front of council vehicles (which we habe paid for of course) to help clear side roads etc. A council worker may slip of course so this could not be allowed.

Even in America the king of legal actions had this, every bus, every bin lorry, every public service vehicle had a snow plough fitted.

Roads were totally clear!
Title: Re: Snow clearing
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 10 January 2010, 11:03:54
  I wish I could convert many of my citizens to this person :) :y :y
Title: Re: Snow clearing
Post by: Tony H on 10 January 2010, 11:12:59
Thats the "spirit" :y
Title: Re: Snow clearing
Post by: Pitchfork on 10 January 2010, 12:32:20
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I suppose it is too much to expect local Councils to consider fitting them to the front of council vehicles (which we habe paid for of course) to help clear side roads etc. A council worker may slip of course so this could not be allowed.

Even in America the king of legal actions had this, every bus, every bin lorry, every public service vehicle had a snow plough fitted.

Roads were totally clear!
I have witnessed that as well - I think the reason being that Americans drive everywhere, I got some strange looks actually walking through the snow to the nearest bar in Cleveland  :)
Title: Re: Snow clearing
Post by: Kevin Wood on 10 January 2010, 12:41:56
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He should send the specs / how too on that to Debs!

I think Debs needs one of these for the front of Lazarus Landy myself. Melt it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfDr-XXuvmo

 8-)

Kevin
Title: Re: Snow clearing
Post by: pscocoa on 10 January 2010, 14:25:34
just cleared our road and part of drive - got 14 neighbours to muck in - good spirit and it is going to spill over to a little party at 5.30 tonight
Title: Re: Snow clearing
Post by: waspy on 10 January 2010, 14:39:42
I was asked to make a plough to fit on the front of the forklift when i was fabing. Simple concept of two pieces of 150X100 box section (one slightly longer than the other) for the forks to slip in, a sheet of 6mm flat & some bracings.
I used to love driving around clearing the snow off the car park, it lasted for years (they may still have it :-/)
Title: Re: Snow clearing
Post by: Entwood on 10 January 2010, 20:06:17
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He should send the specs / how too on that to Debs!

I think Debs needs one of these for the front of Lazarus Landy myself. Melt it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfDr-XXuvmo

 8-)

Kevin


Nah .. she needs one of these ..  :)

(for the purists ... 2 x Rolls Royce Derwent Engines (as fitted to the Meteor) strapped to a bowser ... had a marked tendency to actually melt the tarmac rather than just clear the ice and snow ...  known as MRD's (Mechanical Runway Deicer) and no-one .. but no-one wanted the job.... unfortunately I got lumbered for 2 winters .. :(  )

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v170/KMCLEAN/RAFMRD2.jpg)
Title: Re: Snow clearing
Post by: Seth on 10 January 2010, 20:43:39
Good on yer Nige .......

Am I correct - I'm sure that the bowser is mounted on an AEC Marshal Major chassis?
Used to enjoy driving these when I was on the buses - we had an ex-RAF one converted into a recovery truck. 12.47 litre AV760 engine and 6-speed constant-mesh gearbox - great to drive, and would pull like a train.
Title: Re: Snow clearing
Post by: Debs. on 10 January 2010, 20:47:52
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Nah .. she needs one of these ..  :)

(for the purists ... 2 x Rolls Royce Derwent Engines (as fitted to the Meteor) strapped to a bowser ... had a marked tendency to actually melt the tarmac rather than just clear the ice and snow ...  known as MRD's (Mechanical Runway Deicer) and no-one .. but no-one wanted the job.... unfortunately I got lumbered for 2 winters .. :(  )

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v170/KMCLEAN/RAFMRD2.jpg)


 ;) I sooooooooooo want one of those!........`just a little worried about those castors; Newtonian dynamics and all that! ::)
Title: Re: Snow clearing
Post by: Gaffers on 10 January 2010, 20:49:50
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Nah .. she needs one of these ..  :)

(for the purists ... 2 x Rolls Royce Derwent Engines (as fitted to the Meteor) strapped to a bowser ... had a marked tendency to actually melt the tarmac rather than just clear the ice and snow ...  known as MRD's (Mechanical Runway Deicer) and no-one .. but no-one wanted the job.... unfortunately I got lumbered for 2 winters .. :(  )

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v170/KMCLEAN/RAFMRD2.jpg)


 ;) I sooooooooooo want one of those!........`just a little worried about those castors; Newtonian dynamics and all that! ::)

I think half of Wales would disappear if you got your hands on that ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Snow clearing
Post by: Entwood on 10 January 2010, 21:06:32
Debs ....think about the fuel bill !!! :)

I know AVTUR/Jet A1 is relatively cheap, but the size of the bowser was not just to give weight - although at full chat it did stop you going backawards !! - those things drank fuel at a prodigous rate !!!

 :D :D :D :D

BTW the castors did nothing really except support the weight .. the whole thing was bolted to the bowser and it was totally in charge of directional control  (until you put one at max and one at idle .... but that was the fun part !!!! )

 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Snow clearing
Post by: Kevin Wood on 10 January 2010, 22:02:59
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Nah .. she needs one of these ..  :)

(for the purists ... 2 x Rolls Royce Derwent Engines (as fitted to the Meteor) strapped to a bowser ... had a marked tendency to actually melt the tarmac rather than just clear the ice and snow ...  known as MRD's (Mechanical Runway Deicer) and no-one .. but no-one wanted the job.... unfortunately I got lumbered for 2 winters .. :(  )

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v170/KMCLEAN/RAFMRD2.jpg)

I'm glad you posted a picture of that. One of my Gliding mates (ex-RAE) was describing exactly such a device this morning. We're all bored and grounded at the moment because nobody can find a big enough snow plough to clear Lasham!

He said speed control of the tanker was the critical issue. Too slow and it burnt the tarmac. Too fast and the resulting water refroze and left a hard layer of ice.

Kevin
Title: Re: Snow clearing
Post by: Entwood on 10 January 2010, 22:15:14
The tanker controlled the forward speed and general direction, the "operator" could change the direction of the nozzles by about 15-20 degrees either side, the height of the nozzles, and the power output.

Too much power and you upset the tanker driver :) add that to too little height and what you thought was slabs of ice flying away was actually lumps of tarmac !!! (followed by giving OC Ops a very good "listening to") !!

It was EXTREMELY noisey and uncomfortable, when in use the "operator" sat down between the engines on a little seat .. not like those 2 guys in the picture at all. You had a headset to talk to the tanker driver .. but the noise was so bad you couldn't hear his answers. You had an emergency cut off ... a piece of cord that run down the side of the  tanker to a valve at the fuel outlet. On activation of the "emergency cut out" there was enough fuel in the pipe for about another 90 seconds !!!!

Very, very  ... NOT NICE job .. given to the junior air engineer on the section .. unfortunately as I arrived on the sqn there was a recruiting ban so I did 2 winters before a more junior guy got posted in .....

Those were the days ...... I think  !!!   ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Snow clearing
Post by: PhilRich on 10 January 2010, 23:00:49
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I suppose it is too much to expect local Councils to consider fitting them to the front of council vehicles (which we habe paid for of course) to help clear side roads etc. A council worker may slip of course so this could not be allowed.

Even in America the king of legal actions had this, every bus, every bin lorry, every public service vehicle had a snow plough fitted.

Roads were totally clear!
I have witnessed that as well - I think the reason being that Americans drive everywhere, I got some strange looks actually walking through the snow to the nearest bar in Cleveland  :)


Pitchfork, I take it you mean Cleveland USA?, as it is almost 'de riguer' to walk to the bar in Cleveland UK, usually with the minimum amount of decent clothing whatever the climate! ;D ;D :y