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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Mr Skrunts on 11 January 2010, 01:36:02
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Am being idle.
Widows 7 Ultimate, going to give it a bash. How much space is recommeded for the install.
Going to try it on an SSD drive. But I also want to dual boot it with XP Pro. Would like to install both on the SSD, are there any issues with partitiong an SSD drive or do they have to be left as one.. Will be using one for the 1st time. Not sure if they can or cant be split as never used one before.
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recommends 16Gb :y
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Side of box in my grubby mits says 16Gb for 32bit, 20Gb for 64bit.
Obviously this is minimum.
It will install in 10Gb, but not 8Gb.
As, even if you select another drive for installation, a load of application junk will always end up on C:, as will at least part of the pagefile, and hibernate files, I would say double that is a sensible minimum.
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I tried it recently and found it excellent for what I use it for (ie surfing and email and office stuff).
Easy to use and just as good as XP. I only used it for a week though as I didn't have a licence for it :y
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I only had problem with a scanning software for samsung scx 4100 (no problem with printer).. Other than that working happily with msi nvidia , avermedia tv card, us robotics camera , multiple disks etc..
I guess you wont need to use XP again.. no need to complicate the scenario..
One point I must remind whatever code you run it doesnt have admin privilages , if you need that right click and use run as admin..
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I think you posted the other day about having older pc equipment - I would not change to windows 7 if I were you unless you have needs that would be addressed by 7. XP is a very good product. We installed 7 on an identical machine to one running XP with 1 gb membory and it was a disaster - had to put on more memory and still slower. A lot depends what you want to do with it.
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I only had problem with a scanning software for samsung scx 4100 (no problem with printer).. Other than that working happily with msi nvidia , avermedia tv card, us robotics camera , multiple disks etc..
I guess you wont need to use XP again.. no need to complicate the scenario..
One point I must remind whatever code you run it doesnt have admin privilages , if you need that right click and use run as admin..
Ultimate (and Professional) has XP Mode - a modified use of Virtual PC, that integrates quite well into Win7, with apps running in the XP VM running on the Win7 desktop (ie, not on an XP desktop). Works pretty well, though probably not suitable for heavy, constant use.
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I think you posted the other day about having older pc equipment - I would not change to windows 7 if I were you unless you have needs that would be addressed by 7. XP is a very good product. We installed 7 on an identical machine to one running XP with 1 gb membory and it was a disaster - had to put on more memory and still slower. A lot depends what you want to do with it.
If the PC is older than 3 yrs, or was a particularly naff PC, and came with XP, then probably better sticking to XP.
If it is a Core2 or later, I'd probably bite the bullet.
If it has Vista on it, I'd defo bite the bullet.
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I think you posted the other day about having older pc equipment - I would not change to windows 7 if I were you unless you have needs that would be addressed by 7. XP is a very good product. We installed 7 on an identical machine to one running XP with 1 gb membory and it was a disaster - had to put on more memory and still slower. A lot depends what you want to do with it.
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I'm using win 7 on 2 machines with 1 gb.. one p4 3ghz, another core duo 1.8.. and working faster than when they had xp..
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I think you posted the other day about having older pc equipment - I would not change to windows 7 if I were you unless you have needs that would be addressed by 7. XP is a very good product. We installed 7 on an identical machine to one running XP with 1 gb membory and it was a disaster - had to put on more memory and still slower. A lot depends what you want to do with it.
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I'm using win 7 on 2 machines with 1 gb.. one p4 3ghz, another core duo 1.8.. and working faster than when they had xp..
Lots more comes into play - chipset, disk, decent disk controller with correct driver. Win7 is harder on disks than XP.
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and a note for those tv card users who want to use camera for live chat, msn by default see that tv card >:( so misleads you .. from the msn menus you can choose the capture device.. and correct the problem..
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Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 (Retail)
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro rev 2 (reviews seem to rate it over the stock fan) and quieter.
Asus P5Q Deluxe
GTX8800 (For Now)
4GB DDR2
Should be OK for win 7
Installing on a 64GB SSD, hence why I asked about partitioning. probably run 50% for each.
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Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 (Retail)
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro rev 2 (reviews seem to rate it over the stock fan) and quieter.
Asus P5Q Deluxe
GTX8800 (For Now)
4GB DDR2
Should be OK for win 7
Installing on a 64GB SSD, hence why I asked about partitioning. probably run 50% for each.
I'd be inclined to stick to standard cooler, unless you need silent, in which case you've picked wrong one. Stock coolers seem to be massively more reliable.
I'd be wary storing data on SSD without backing up elsewhere - SSDs still unproven, and the underlying technology is prone to data corruption.
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Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 (Retail)
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro rev 2 (reviews seem to rate it over the stock fan) and quieter.
Asus P5Q Deluxe
GTX8800 (For Now)
4GB DDR2
Should be OK for win 7
Installing on a 64GB SSD, hence why I asked about partitioning. probably run 50% for each.
I'd be inclined to stick to standard cooler, unless you need silent, in which case you've picked wrong one. Stock coolers seem to be massively more reliable.
I'd be wary storing data on SSD without backing up elsewhere - SSDs still unproven, and the underlying technology is prone to data corruption.
No data at all will be stored on the SSD. I allways move the "My Favourites" intp"My Documents" and then move that to a seperate drive.
I learnt very early on when an install/herd drive screwed up with 1000's of cross linked files, if the system suffers a total screw up or wipe out it may need formating or replacing, so my data never lives on the C: or if possible, not even the same hard drive.
Partitioning = Any forseen problems, or do thay just have to be kept as one drive. Never used one, thats why I am asking numpty questions. :-[
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I'd be inclined to stick to standard cooler, unless you need silent, in which case you've picked wrong one. Stock coolers seem to be massively more reliable.
What do you recommend.
Edit:- Just to add, it all going in a flat case, rather than an upright. Will also be having some thermally controlled case fans in in case I fit more hard drives....... ::)
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I'd be inclined to stick to standard cooler, unless you need silent, in which case you've picked wrong one. Stock coolers seem to be massively more reliable.
What do you recommend.
Edit:- Just to add, it all going in a flat case, rather than an upright. Will also be having some thermally controlled case fans in in case I fit more hard drives....... ::)
Modern stuff, particularly Intel, doesn't use the power (thus heat) of older generation. Modern drives are also more efficient. You may not need much further cooling.
Seperate VGA cards still need cooling though.
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recommended cooler for global warming ;D ;D ;D :y
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/r1.jpg)
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Are they supplied with free Araldite cem. ;D ;D ;D ;D :y
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Are they supplied with free Araldite cem. ;D ;D ;D ;D :y
nope, hot silicone :y :y
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recommended cooler for global warming ;D ;D ;D :y
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/r1.jpg)
I'm guessing thats a P4, or one of AMD's pieces of junk?
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recommended cooler for global warming ;D ;D ;D :y
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/r1.jpg)
I'm guessing thats a P4, or one of AMD's pieces of junk?
core duo 1.8 :) :y
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recommended cooler for global warming ;D ;D ;D :y
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/r1.jpg)
I'm guessing thats a P4, or one of AMD's pieces of junk?
core duo 1.8 :) :y
bloody hell :o
what is ambient temp?
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recommended cooler for global warming ;D ;D ;D :y
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/r1.jpg)
I'm guessing thats a P4, or one of AMD's pieces of junk?
core duo 1.8 :) :y
bloody hell :o
what is ambient temp?
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last summer was above 30 Celcius sometimes reaching 36-37 C.. and the system was crashing after maximum 10-20 minutes.. :-/
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recommended cooler for global warming ;D ;D ;D :y
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/r1.jpg)
I'm guessing thats a P4, or one of AMD's pieces of junk?
core duo 1.8 :) :y
bloody hell :o
what is ambient temp?
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last summer was above 30 Celcius sometimes reaching 36-37 C.. and the system was crashing after maximum 10-20 minutes.. :-/
we had that a couple of years back. OOF was on a 2.4 G Core2 Quad back then, never any issues with heat. Using std BTX cooler...
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recommended cooler for global warming ;D ;D ;D :y
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/r1.jpg)
I'm guessing thats a P4, or one of AMD's pieces of junk?
core duo 1.8 :) :y
bloody hell :o
what is ambient temp?
:-/
last summer was above 30 Celcius sometimes reaching 36-37 C.. and the system was crashing after maximum 10-20 minutes.. :-/
we had that a couple of years back. OOF was on a 2.4 G Core2 Quad back then, never any issues with heat. Using std BTX cooler...
I frequently clean coolers and system, but for that system did not help.. :-/
anyway now solved.. my estimation is that nvidia gpu and tv card causes too much heat..
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recommended cooler for global warming ;D ;D ;D :y
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/r1.jpg)
Sort that cable management out, get a decent case, and the stock cooler will be more than sufficient.
PS
Just checked mine after being on 24/7 for the last 3 weeks...
Intel E8400 (3GHz dual core), Lian Li full tower server case, room temp at 26°C according to a mercury based thermometer....and my CPU is at 32°C using the stock Intel supplied cooler.
Video card (9800GT) is at 47°C according to GPU software, with HDD's being at 45°C (HDD Tune).
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recommended cooler for global warming ;D ;D ;D :y
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/r1.jpg)
Sort that cable management out, get a decent case, and the stock cooler will be more than sufficient.
a really good quality case costs 150 $+ vat
a 10$ cooler solves cheaply imho :y
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a really good quality case costs 150 $+ vat
I'd have been laughing my nuts off if I could have got my case for $150....it was £199 inc VAT....and the PSU was another £175 inc VAT on top.
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recommended cooler for global warming ;D ;D ;D :y
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/r1.jpg)
I'm guessing thats a P4, or one of AMD's pieces of junk?
core duo 1.8 :) :y
bloody hell :o
what is ambient temp?
:-/
last summer was above 30 Celcius sometimes reaching 36-37 C.. and the system was crashing after maximum 10-20 minutes.. :-/
we had that a couple of years back. OOF was on a 2.4 G Core2 Quad back then, never any issues with heat. Using std BTX cooler...
I frequently clean coolers and system, but for that system did not help.. :-/
anyway now solved.. my estimation is that nvidia gpu and tv card causes too much heat..
You need one of these little things. ;D ;D
http://www.3dnews.ru/_imgdata/img/2008/05/29/84022.jpg
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a really good quality case costs 150 $+ vat
I'd have been laughing my nuts off if I could have got my case for $150....it was £199 inc VAT....and the PSU was another £175 inc VAT on top.
Which Lian case is it?
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Which Lian case is it?
PC71
A quick Google (I only looked at the first 2 links) shows the retail to be around the £150 mark at todays prices, but you then have to factor in the cost of the PSU (I'm using a Silverstone Strider ST1000 which set me back £175 when I bought it around 18 months ago).
True 960W RMS when under full load with f**k all ripple, and a lifetime warranty.
Aside from the fact you can see the quality when you pull the case from the box, the biggest bonus is that you don't need to buy a box of band aid to assemble - and you don't need a screwdriver either (it's all thumbscrew).
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Which Lian case is it?
PC71
A quick Google (I only looked at the first 2 links) shows the retail to be around the £150 mark at todays prices, but you then have to factor in the cost of the PSU (I'm using a Silverstone Strider ST1000 which set me back £175 when I bought it around 18 months ago).
True 960W RMS when under full load with f**k all ripple, and a lifetime warranty.
Aside from the fact you can see the quality when you pull the case from the box, the biggest bonus is that you don't need to buy a box of band aid to assemble - and you don't need a screwdriver either (it's all thumbscrew).
Never a fan of Silverstone products myself, though not seen much in last couple of years
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a really good quality case costs 150 $+ vat
I'd have been laughing my nuts off if I could have got my case for $150....it was £199 inc VAT....and the PSU was another £175 inc VAT on top.
home is full of various size pc cases.. 200 £ case in UK means at least 400-450 $ case here .. I'll spend that money for something more critical imho..
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home is full of various size pc cases.. 200 £ case in UK means at least 400-450 $ case here .. I'll spend that money for something more critical imho..
Fair play to you Cem, but my PC doesn't crash every 20 minutes when the ambient temps start hitting the 30's outside ;)
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Never a fan of Silverstone products myself, though not seen much in last couple of years
Hadn't really heard of them myself until I bought this one, but the fact it actually delivers what it says on the tin (bar 40W), and the fact it has a lifetime warranty (including the components it powers should it actually go wrong and fry them with extra juice).....that was enough for me to part with the £175.
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A decent PSU (quality rather than pure power) will make a system more stable, as KW says :y
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10 $ cooler is working with 220 volt..
and cools such that I can use tv card, video chat and ie surfing without any problem.. :y
psu also is a decent one..no problems after the cooler..
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At the risk of a character assasination, if you've got an iPod (like what I have - iTouch 2nd Gen) then there seems to be some issues with Win7 64-Bit. So if you're intending to use the machine to sync up then you might have problems. I've just changed to Win7 64-Bit Pro and it's corrupted my iTouch. I've formatted the thing and now it wants to talk to iTunes only after what iTunes did to it last I'm not sure I want to see what happens when I plug it back in :/
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At the risk of a character assasination, if you've got an iPod (like what I have - iTouch 2nd Gen) then there seems to be some issues with Win7 64-Bit. So if you're intending to use the machine to sync up then you might have problems. I've just changed to Win7 64-Bit Pro and it's corrupted my iTouch. I've formatted the thing and now it wants to talk to iTunes only after what iTunes did to it last I'm not sure I want to see what happens when I plug it back in :/
itunes does occasionally screw, irrespective of OS.
Oh, and GAY ;D
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...glad you didn't disappoint. :)
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...glad you didn't disappoint. :)
Bless him, at least he is consistant.
Oh, and break off outa my thread with gaypods. ;D ;D ;D ::) :-X
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At the risk of a character assasination, if you've got an iPod (like what I have - iTouch 2nd Gen) then there seems to be some issues with Win7 64-Bit. So if you're intending to use the machine to sync up then you might have problems. I've just changed to Win7 64-Bit Pro and it's corrupted my iTouch. I've formatted the thing and now it wants to talk to iTunes only after what iTunes did to it last I'm not sure I want to see what happens when I plug it back in :/
Use Anapod Explorer instead then.
Uses sod all system resources, is less than 1MB in size, and lets you simply "drag & drop" to the iWhatever through Windows Explorer.
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Which Lian case is it?
PC71
A quick Google (I only looked at the first 2 links) shows the retail to be around the £150 mark at todays prices, but you then have to factor in the cost of the PSU (I'm using a Silverstone Strider ST1000 which set me back £175 when I bought it around 18 months ago).
True 960W RMS when under full load with f**k all ripple, and a lifetime warranty.
Aside from the fact you can see the quality when you pull the case from the box, the biggest bonus is that you don't need to buy a box of band aid to assemble - and you don't need a screwdriver either (it's all thumbscrew).
For the £200 mark I had seen this which is why I asked to make sure.
http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_1001.html
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For the £200 mark I had seen this which is why I asked to make sure.
http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_1001.html
The one I have is http://www.dansdata.com/pc7x.htm
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Which Lian case is it?
PC71
A quick Google (I only looked at the first 2 links) shows the retail to be around the £150 mark at todays prices, but you then have to factor in the cost of the PSU (I'm using a Silverstone Strider ST1000 which set me back £175 when I bought it around 18 months ago).
True 960W RMS when under full load with f**k all ripple, and a lifetime warranty.
Aside from the fact you can see the quality when you pull the case from the box, the biggest bonus is that you don't need to buy a box of band aid to assemble - and you don't need a screwdriver either (it's all thumbscrew).
For the £200 mark I had seen this which is why I asked to make sure.
http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_1001.html
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seems like you will serve numerous bank branches ;D
seriously I like it.. if space and cost is no problem I would buy that.. :y
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If it had the ability to have 2 complete motherboard setups inside then I might have considered it, ::)