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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: BigAl on 13 January 2010, 11:31:40
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8456116.stm has a link to an excel spreadsheet of MOT pass rates and failures for 2007 and is quite interesting, if you like that sort of info
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Omega Info:
Year of Test Test Failure Body and View of Fuel and
First Use Passes Failures Rate Structure Brakes the Road Exhaust
1971* 6 8 57.1% 5 4 2
1990 1 2 66.7% 2 1
1994 1,792 1,841 50.7% 215 2,072 577 801
1995 2,908 3,014 50.9% 197 3,486 867 1,373
1996 3,625 3,501 49.1% 141 3,827 960 1,462
1997 4,203 3,612 46.2% 132 3,069 952 1,488
1998 6,428 5,242 44.9% 132 4,315 1,260 2,034
1999 7,101 4,932 41.0% 89 3,602 1,089 1,765
2000 6,977 3,640 34.3% 35 2,131 733 1,212
2001 6,210 2,809 31.1% 26 1,161 482 985
2002 6,128 2,168 26.1% 18 865 324 650
2003 3,926 1,219 23.7% 7 364 134 240
2004 177 35 16.5% 8 5 5
Total 49,482 32,023 39.3% 992 24,907 7,388 12,017
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Plus I would imaginge with the cost of the MOT and the retest, people are now aiming to get it rught 1st time.
But, is a failure classed as a fail on the test, or failure after failing the retest?
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Although there are no targets, I have been told there is a traget of around 30% failure
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The Ford Transit Connect had the highest failure rate
Surprise, surprise! Vehicles that get not the slightest bit of attention from either driver or owner fail the MOT.
Saw a 55 plate one in our village, front totally stoved in after an accident on the snow. Both front tyres down to canvas. Not ideal for driving in winter, really. ::)
Kevin
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Although there are no targets, I have been told there is a traget of around 30% failure
'My' MOT tester said that VOSA had questioned his generally low fail rate. :-?
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What I find amazing is that the majority of "fails" are for just 2 areas .... "brakes" then "lights & signals" with the next lot being "suspension", Tyres", "Fuel & exhaust"
Now I accept that the majority of folks out there may not be able to physically check Brakes, Suspension, Fuel & Exhaust but EVERYONE can check lights, signals and tyres .. in fact not CAN .. the word is SHOULD !!
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Very revealing, thanks OP!
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What I find amazing is that the majority of "fails" are for just 2 areas .... "brakes" then "lights & signals" with the next lot being "suspension", Tyres", "Fuel & exhaust"
Now I accept that the majority of folks out there may not be able to physically check Brakes, Suspension, Fuel & Exhaust but EVERYONE can check lights, signals and tyres .. in fact not CAN .. the word is SHOULD !!
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Agreed. But the sheer number of cars on the road with lights out (even headlights FFS!) makes me believe that the average motorist is neither capable nor interested and just leaves it to be picked up at MOT time.
In addition, regarding brakes, I have been pulled up where the brakes have been perfectly OK performance-wise but the tester has not been happy with the remaining friction material at 3 or 4 mm or more. Now, for me at that level I'm making a mental note to get some more pads and change them when I get a spare evening but I'm, guessing MOT testers now work on the assumption that if it is going to require attention during the next year they fail it. :(
Kevin
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What I find amazing is that the majority of "fails" are for just 2 areas .... "brakes" then "lights & signals" with the next lot being "suspension", Tyres", "Fuel & exhaust"
Now I accept that the majority of folks out there may not be able to physically check Brakes, Suspension, Fuel & Exhaust but EVERYONE can check lights, signals and tyres .. in fact not CAN .. the word is SHOULD !!
:(
lights failing is of no suprise, i reckon 1 in 10 cars i see have some sort of light issue, either bulbs or headlight alignment related. Easy to check as you say but people just dont bother...
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What I find amazing is that the majority of "fails" are for just 2 areas .... "brakes" then "lights & signals" with the next lot being "suspension", Tyres", "Fuel & exhaust"
Now I accept that the majority of folks out there may not be able to physically check Brakes, Suspension, Fuel & Exhaust but EVERYONE can check lights, signals and tyres .. in fact not CAN .. the word is SHOULD !!
:(
lights failing is of no suprise, i reckon 1 in 10 cars i see have some sort of light issue, either bulbs or headlight alignment related. Easy to check as you say but people just dont bother...
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I can vouch for that swmbo hasn't got a clue and I have done hers three times in the last few months(bulbs that is)
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MOT testers can be done for not failing, so my usual tester fails borderline cars then passes them to get his failure up.
Nothing wrong with them but it save the ministry annoying him.
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And I think everyone knows what I think of this policy. Air Freshener, I rather ask you >:(
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And I think everyone knows what I think of this policy. Air Freshener, I rather ask you >:(
It was in the back of my mind, how long before air fresheners would be mentioned ;D
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And I think everyone knows what I think of this policy. Air Freshener, I rather ask you >:(
It was in the back of my mind, how long before air fresheners would be mentioned ;D
It may well have been in the back of your mind but from what I can gather not in the back of TB's mind,more like all over his car
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What I find amazing is that the majority of "fails" are for just 2 areas .... "brakes" then "lights & signals" with the next lot being "suspension", Tyres", "Fuel & exhaust"
Now I accept that the majority of folks out there may not be able to physically check Brakes, Suspension, Fuel & Exhaust but EVERYONE can check lights, signals and tyres .. in fact not CAN .. the word is SHOULD !!
:(
Agreed. But the sheer number of cars on the road with lights out (even headlights FFS!) makes me believe that the average motorist is neither capable nor interested and just leaves it to be picked up at MOT time.
In addition, regarding brakes, I have been pulled up where the brakes have been perfectly OK performance-wise but the tester has not been happy with the remaining friction material at 3 or 4 mm or more. Now, for me at that level I'm making a mental note to get some more pads and change them when I get a spare evening but I'm, guessing MOT testers now work on the assumption that if it is going to require attention during the next year they fail it. :(
Kevin
AFAIK, if they fail it for lack of friction material they should refuse to do the roller test :-/ :-/
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but I'm, guessing MOT testers now work on the assumption that if it is going to require attention during the next year they fail it. :(
Once your vehicle is in the hands of the individual conducting the test, it is nothing more than the testers "professional opinion" that dictates whether the vehicle passes or not (excluding targets that don't officially exist of course).
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MOT testers can be done for not failing, so my usual tester fails borderline cars then passes them to get his failure up.
Nothing wrong with them but it save the ministry annoying him.
Prolly the reason i was handed a fail sheet for a mot on the trafic i was driving last week.....failed on dim front sidelight bulbs.....(the bulbs had blackened, i had noticed beforehand)....
Given the pass sheet 5 secs later....saying we've changed them for you.....no charge.
I would have gone back and ranted at them if they had of charged.......coz they didnt change them at all!!
Same bulbs in there.
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MOT testers can be done for not failing, so my usual tester fails borderline cars then passes them to get his failure up.
Nothing wrong with them but it save the ministry annoying him.
Prolly the reason i was handed a fail sheet for a mot on the trafic i was driving last week.....failed on dim front sidelight bulbs.....(the bulbs had blackened, i had noticed beforehand)....
Given the pass sheet 5 secs later....saying we've changed them for you.....no charge.
I would have gone back and ranted at them if they had of charged.......coz they didnt change them at all!!
Same bulbs in there.
Failed last two years 2007/8 it was Exhaust blowing - just before he fitted my new system.
2008/9 my tow bar protector plate partly blocks the number plate and slightly dodgy wishbone bushes
2009/10 due next week
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Not this one ..... ::)