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Title: IPCC admits mistake then apologises to Nickbat
Post by: Banjax on 26 January 2010, 11:53:46
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8479795.stm

more fuel to the sceptics fire, whilst I, like most reasonable people accept the findings of the IPCC's reports they don't do themselves any favours by over-egging the pudding, just let the smart folk look at the data scientifically, you don't need to gerrymander it - thats the sceptics job  :y
Title: Re: IPCC admits mistake then apologises to Nickbat
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 26 January 2010, 12:04:48
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8479795.stm

more fuel to the sceptics fire, whilst I, like most reasonable people accept the findings of the IPCC's reports they don't do themselves any favours by over-egging the pudding, just let the smart folk look at the data scientifically, you don't need to gerrymander it - thats the sceptics job  :y



I do hope that you're not being blinded by 'science' bj ::) ::)

Your faith in the credibility of the IPCC is impressive - will that extend to accepting the Lord Jesus Christ as your Saviour?

It amounts to the same thing, having the faith to accept that what you're being told is based on fact rather than the assertions of dedicated disciples.
Title: Re: IPCC admits mistake then apologises to Nickbat
Post by: Chris_H on 26 January 2010, 12:07:40
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more fuel to the sceptics fire, whilst I, like most reasonable people accept the findings of the IPCC's reports they don't do themselves any favours by over-egging the pudding, just let the smart folk look at the data scientifically, you don't need to gerrymander it - thats the sceptics job  :y



I do hope that you're not being blinded by 'science' bj ::) ::)

Your faith in the credibility of the IPCC is impressive - will that extend to accepting the Lord Jesus Christ as your Saviour?

It amounts to the same thing, having the faith to accept that what you're being told is based on fact rather than the assertions of dedicated disciples.
Steady on Zulu!  You'll be telling me you believe Julius Caesar existed next.  How much 'faith' can you do without?
Title: Re: IPCC admits mistake then apologises to Nickbat
Post by: Banjax on 26 January 2010, 12:15:30
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8479795.stm

more fuel to the sceptics fire, whilst I, like most reasonable people accept the findings of the IPCC's reports they don't do themselves any favours by over-egging the pudding, just let the smart folk look at the data scientifically, you don't need to gerrymander it - thats the sceptics job  :y



I do hope that you're not being blinded by 'science' bj ::) ::)

Your faith in the credibility of the IPCC is impressive - will that extend to accepting the Lord Jesus Christ as your Saviour?

It amounts to the same thing, having the faith to accept that what you're being told is based on fact rather than the assertions of dedicated disciples.


come on Zulu - I need proof, and as far as I see it on the balance of probabilities I'd stake my money on the IPCC being more right than wrong

as for the invisible super-being fairytales, i gave them up when I was 5 years old, but I get your point, there is a certain religous fervour to some of these arguments, lets just look at the data without trying to contrive one result or another  :y
Title: Re: IPCC admits mistake then apologises to Nickbat
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 26 January 2010, 12:18:25
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8479795.stm

more fuel to the sceptics fire, whilst I, like most reasonable people accept the findings of the IPCC's reports they don't do themselves any favours by over-egging the pudding, just let the smart folk look at the data scientifically, you don't need to gerrymander it - thats the sceptics job  :y



I do hope that you're not being blinded by 'science' bj ::) ::)

Your faith in the credibility of the IPCC is impressive - will that extend to accepting the Lord Jesus Christ as your Saviour?

It amounts to the same thing, having the faith to accept that what you're being told is based on fact rather than the assertions of dedicated disciples.
Steady on Zulu!  You'll be telling me you believe Julius Caesar existed next.  How much 'faith' can you do without?


He was indeed a fine leader Chris and concocted the recipe for a very tasty salad. :y :y 
Title: Re: IPCC admits mistake then apologises to Nickbat
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 26 January 2010, 12:20:28
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8479795.stm

more fuel to the sceptics fire, whilst I, like most reasonable people accept the findings of the IPCC's reports they don't do themselves any favours by over-egging the pudding, just let the smart folk look at the data scientifically, you don't need to gerrymander it - thats the sceptics job  :y



I do hope that you're not being blinded by 'science' bj ::) ::)

Your faith in the credibility of the IPCC is impressive - will that extend to accepting the Lord Jesus Christ as your Saviour?

It amounts to the same thing, having the faith to accept that what you're being told is based on fact rather than the assertions of dedicated disciples.


come on Zulu - I need proof, and as far as I see it on the balance of probabilities I'd stake my money on the IPCC being more right than wrong

as for the invisible super-being fairytales, i gave them up when I was 5 years old, but I get your point, there is a certain religous fervour to some of these arguments, lets just look at the data without trying to contrive one result or another  :y


All right then bj :y












 :-/
Title: Re: IPCC admits mistake then apologises to Nickbat
Post by: Banjax on 26 January 2010, 12:21:15
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8479795.stm

more fuel to the sceptics fire, whilst I, like most reasonable people accept the findings of the IPCC's reports they don't do themselves any favours by over-egging the pudding, just let the smart folk look at the data scientifically, you don't need to gerrymander it - thats the sceptics job  :y



I do hope that you're not being blinded by 'science' bj ::) ::)

Your faith in the credibility of the IPCC is impressive - will that extend to accepting the Lord Jesus Christ as your Saviour?

It amounts to the same thing, having the faith to accept that what you're being told is based on fact rather than the assertions of dedicated disciples.
Steady on Zulu!  You'll be telling me you believe Julius Caesar existed next.  How much 'faith' can you do without?


He was indeed a fine leader Chris and concocted the recipe for a very tasty salad. :y :y 

"Infamy! Infamy! They've all got it infamy!!!"
Julius Caesar,1974
Title: Re: IPCC admits mistake then apologises to Nickbat
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 26 January 2010, 12:22:29
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8479795.stm

more fuel to the sceptics fire, whilst I, like most reasonable people accept the findings of the IPCC's reports they don't do themselves any favours by over-egging the pudding, just let the smart folk look at the data scientifically, you don't need to gerrymander it - thats the sceptics job  :y



I do hope that you're not being blinded by 'science' bj ::) ::)

Your faith in the credibility of the IPCC is impressive - will that extend to accepting the Lord Jesus Christ as your Saviour?

It amounts to the same thing, having the faith to accept that what you're being told is based on fact rather than the assertions of dedicated disciples.
Steady on Zulu!  You'll be telling me you believe Julius Caesar existed next.  How much 'faith' can you do without?


He was indeed a fine leader Chris and concocted the recipe for a very tasty salad. :y :y 

"Infamy! Infamy! They've all got it infamy!!!"
Julius Caesar,1974


Despite many friends having his back ;D ;D ;D :o :o :y
Title: Re: IPCC admits mistake then apologises to Nickbat
Post by: Chris_H on 26 January 2010, 12:27:19
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8479795.stm

more fuel to the sceptics fire, whilst I, like most reasonable people accept the findings of the IPCC's reports they don't do themselves any favours by over-egging the pudding, just let the smart folk look at the data scientifically, you don't need to gerrymander it - thats the sceptics job  :y



I do hope that you're not being blinded by 'science' bj ::) ::)

Your faith in the credibility of the IPCC is impressive - will that extend to accepting the Lord Jesus Christ as your Saviour?

It amounts to the same thing, having the faith to accept that what you're being told is based on fact rather than the assertions of dedicated disciples.
Steady on Zulu!  You'll be telling me you believe Julius Caesar existed next.  How much 'faith' can you do without?


He was indeed a fine leader Chris and concocted the recipe for a very tasty salad. :y :y 
That's your evidence!!!  Nuts.  :D

[edit](Since Google won't admit to nuts in Caesar salads, that's not very funny?)[/edit]
Title: Re: IPCC admits mistake then apologises to Nickbat
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 26 January 2010, 12:45:21
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8479795.stm

more fuel to the sceptics fire, whilst I, like most reasonable people accept the findings of the IPCC's reports they don't do themselves any favours by over-egging the pudding, just let the smart folk look at the data scientifically, you don't need to gerrymander it - thats the sceptics job  :y



I do hope that you're not being blinded by 'science' bj ::) ::)

Your faith in the credibility of the IPCC is impressive - will that extend to accepting the Lord Jesus Christ as your Saviour?

It amounts to the same thing, having the faith to accept that what you're being told is based on fact rather than the assertions of dedicated disciples.
Steady on Zulu!  You'll be telling me you believe Julius Caesar existed next.  How much 'faith' can you do without?


He was indeed a fine leader Chris and concocted the recipe for a very tasty salad. :y :y 
That's your evidence!!!  Nuts.  :D

[edit](Since Google won't admit to nuts in Caesar salads, that's not very funny?)[/edit]


 ;D ;D ;D Google - don't you just love them?  :y
Title: Re: IPCC admits mistake then apologises to Nickbat
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 26 January 2010, 12:48:56
This might redress the matter;




http://www.groundreport.com/Health_and_Science/The-History-of-the-Caesar-Salad-and-How-to-Make-it/2872523
Title: Re: IPCC admits mistake then apologises to Nickbat
Post by: Nickbat on 26 January 2010, 12:51:40
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8479795.stm

more fuel to the sceptics fire, whilst I, like most reasonable people accept the findings of the IPCC's reports they don't do themselves any favours by over-egging the pudding, just let the smart folk look at the data scientifically, you don't need to gerrymander it - thats the sceptics job  :y

Trouble is, it's only the tip of the non-melting iceberg. It appears that the IPCC AR4 is ram-jam packed with non-peer reviewed science from The World Wildlife Fund (isn't that where the current boss of the Met Office comes from? Sorry, I digress).

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/01/24/the-scandal-deepens-ipcc-ar4-riddled-with-non-peer-reviewed-wwf-papers/

The IPCC claimed that 40% of the Amazon rainforests could be lost through global warming. They cite a paper written by Rowell & Moore, 2000 -another WWF report. The two authors? Well, the latter is a "policy analyst", while the former - the lead author - is:

a freelance writer and Investigative journalist with over 12 years’ experience on environmental, food, health and globalization issues. Rowell has undertaken cutting-edge investigations for, amongst others, Action on Smoking and Health, The Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids, Friends of the Earth, Greenpeace... terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired, terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/01/25/de-jour-gate-flavor-amazon/#more-15658

So, lots of science there, then. ;)   


Oh, and the Stern Review (written by that slippery economist, Nicholas Stern) got the cost of hurricane impacts wrong by a factor of 10. The report was changed later (...on the quiet, of course).  ;)

There is so much out there that has been manipulated and falsified that the whole thing is beginning to fall apart..and with good reason.  :y
Title: Re: IPCC admits mistake then apologises to Nickbat
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 26 January 2010, 12:55:13
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8479795.stm

more fuel to the sceptics fire, whilst I, like most reasonable people accept the findings of the IPCC's reports they don't do themselves any favours by over-egging the pudding, just let the smart folk look at the data scientifically, you don't need to gerrymander it - thats the sceptics job  :y



I do hope that you're not being blinded by 'science' bj ::) ::)

Your faith in the credibility of the IPCC is impressive - will that extend to accepting the Lord Jesus Christ as your Saviour?

It amounts to the same thing, having the faith to accept that what you're being told is based on fact rather than the assertions of dedicated disciples.


come on Zulu - I need proof, and as far as I see it on the balance of probabilities I'd stake my money on the IPCC being more right than wrong

as for the invisible super-being fairytales, i gave them up when I was 5 years old, but I get your point, there is a certain religous fervour to some of these arguments, lets just look at the data without trying to contrive one result or another  :y

I concur with Banjax :y :y
Title: Re: IPCC admits mistake then apologises to Nickbat
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 26 January 2010, 13:02:19
With reference to the title of this thread Nick, I do hope you thanked the IPCC for their new-found humility.
Title: Re: IPCC admits mistake then apologises to Nickbat
Post by: Nickbat on 26 January 2010, 13:42:18
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With reference to the title of this thread Nick, I do hope you thanked the IPCC for their new-found humility.

No, but I do like to show my concern for endangered species:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rqH4fUbko2U/S13ViXuWf4I/AAAAAAAAP70/bt0HDaIxQQA/s1600-h/adopt.jpg

  ;)  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: IPCC admits mistake then apologises to Nickbat
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 26 January 2010, 15:19:09
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With reference to the title of this thread Nick, I do hope you thanked the IPCC for their new-found humility.

No, but I do like to show my concern for endangered species:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rqH4fUbko2U/S13ViXuWf4I/AAAAAAAAP70/bt0HDaIxQQA/s1600-h/adopt.jpg

  ;)  ;)  ;D


You are indeed a compassionate man Nick 8-) :y :y
Title: Re: IPCC admits mistake then apologises to Nickbat
Post by: albitz on 26 January 2010, 18:15:51
Prince Charles has been on a visit to The University of East Anglia today to try to help restore its credibility after the climategate debacle. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
He,s away with the fairies, has been for years. Should be in a home for the bewildered. ::)
Title: Re: IPCC admits mistake then apologises to Nickbat
Post by: jereboam on 26 January 2010, 19:38:55
This is all old hat and we can forget about it.

According to Radio 4, we ought to be worrying about over-acidifying the oceans, leading to a global disaster on a scale which will make global warming look like a picnic.

Or something like that.  My eyes glazed over halfway through and my mind slipped quietly away.

Oh yes, I remember.  They had some experts in the studio. :)