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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: mantagte on 01 February 2010, 13:19:34
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that our goverment will not pay £100,000 for the release of mr and mrs chandler british subjects
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Paul-And-Rachel-Chandler-David-Miliband-Defends-Effort-To-Free-Britons-Kidnapped-By-Somali-Pirates/Article/201002115539467?lpos=World_News_Carousel_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15539467_Paul_And_Rachel_Chandler%3A_David_Miliband_Defends_Effort_To_Free_Britons_Kidnapped_By_Somali_Pirates
but will happily give
£20 million to help a load of foreingers
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They cannot pay terrorists ;)
And they shouldn't, particularly in this case - there has been enough media coverage of these dangerous waters over past 2yrs, but still they chose to sail. Tough titties.
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they aint terrosists they are pirates
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they aint terrosists they are pirates
Terrorist, Pirates or what ever. They're criminals & get £0.00
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I agree with TB, surely their family can raise £100,000.
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They cannot pay terrorists ;)
And they shouldn't, particularly in this case - there has been enough media coverage of these dangerous waters over past 2yrs, but still they chose to sail. Tough titties.
100% agree - no one would be safe if it was known to pirates that the British Government pays for the release of hostages, i'm afraid it's one of the reasons that sailing round the world is exciting - because of the danger - and to sail anywhere near "Pirate Bay" ffs - clue's in the title people :(
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they aint terrosists they are pirates
Terrorist, Pirates or what ever. They're criminals & get £0.00
Oh dear, i've just realized what i've said & that's totally wrong >:( >:( >:( >:(
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I agree that we shouldn't be paying up, and that their choice of destination could have been wiser.
I am disappointed that the government haven't sent the SBS in to slot a few of the pirates and get them out though. I would hope British citizens would get a bit more backing when travelling abroad.
Kevin
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I feel sorry for this couple, but cannot help thinking they brought it on themselves, these are educated people. What on earth were they thinking of when they sailed of into the sunset?
I hope they get home safely, and Yes I believe that there will be some sort of SBS/SAS rescue sometime soon, especially as that video has emerged. It is not as if these pirates are like a fully trained army, it will be like a training execise for the SAS/SBS. don't you think.
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I agree that we shouldn't be paying up, and that their choice of destination could have been wiser.
I am disappointed that the government haven't sent the SBS in to slot a few of the pirates and get them out though. I would hope British citizens would get a bit more backing when travelling abroad.
Kevin
The do-gooders, like that ugly bitch from Liberty, would prevent the world's navys going in and blowing the pirates out of the water.
I suppose they could try to bomb the Somalians, but that would mean bombing vast areas of Milton Keynes. Mind you, thats no bad thing :P
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They cannot pay terrorists ;)
And they shouldn't, particularly in this case - there has been enough media coverage of these dangerous waters over past 2yrs, but still they chose to sail. Tough titties.
Agree fully with you TB :y :y :y
This couple knew what they were heading for when sailing into those waters. For the British government to ever pay a ransom sets a very dangerous precedent, and would endanger any British citizen abroad, with ever increasing demands from criminals for ransom payments after a kidnap. The British government would end up being a 'cash cow'.
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The British government would end up being an even bigger 'cash cow'.
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I agree that we shouldn't be paying up, and that their choice of destination could have been wiser.
I am disappointed that the government haven't sent the SBS in to slot a few of the pirates and get them out though. I would hope British citizens would get a bit more backing when travelling abroad.
Kevin
I seem to recall Kevin that according to the media Special Forces were being readied to rescue this foolish couple, but something was leaked and the action was halted! ::) ::)
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I agree that we shouldn't be paying up, and that their choice of destination could have been wiser.
I am disappointed that the government haven't sent the SBS in to slot a few of the pirates and get them out though. I would hope British citizens would get a bit more backing when travelling abroad.
Kevin
I seem to recall Kevin that according to the media Special Forces were being readied to rescue this foolish couple, but something was leaked and the action was halted! ::) ::)
That'd be fairly typical. No doubt they have to endure "embedded journalists" too these days. >:(
Kevin
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I agree that we shouldn't be paying up, and that their choice of destination could have been wiser.
I am disappointed that the government haven't sent the SBS in to slot a few of the pirates and get them out though. I would hope British citizens would get a bit more backing when travelling abroad.
Kevin
Mounting an operation inland in such hostile territory can prove to be a very difficult mission. This is made more so when the hostages - as in this case - have been separated and are constantly moved around.
In addition the crucial intelligence to enable such a mission appears to be of an incomplete nature.
I do agree however that many of these pirates should be capped when identified on the high seas.
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I agree that we shouldn't be paying up, and that their choice of destination could have been wiser.
I am disappointed that the government haven't sent the SBS in to slot a few of the pirates and get them out though. I would hope British citizens would get a bit more backing when travelling abroad.
Kevin
Mounting an operation inland in such hostile territory can prove to be a very difficult mission. This is made more so when the hostages - as in this case - have been separated and are constantly moved around.
In addition the crucial intelligence to enable such a mission appears to be of an incomplete nature.
I do agree however that many of these pirates should be capped when identified on the high seas.
I guess my solution was oversimplified. ;D
I guess the sentiment I was trying to get across is that I do hope that someone is working on a plan for their liberation, though, and not just letting them rot. :(
Kevin
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I agree that we shouldn't be paying up, and that their choice of destination could have been wiser.
I am disappointed that the government haven't sent the SBS in to slot a few of the pirates and get them out though. I would hope British citizens would get a bit more backing when travelling abroad.
Kevin
I'm not altogether convinced that a raid on another sovereign state by British Special Forces would go down all that well at the UN. Perhaps a perfect surgical strike which rescued these buffoons without hurting any Somalis (innocent or otherwise) might just scrape through, but if anyone got hurt, all our "enemies", and the enemies of our "friends" would be down on us like a ton of bricks.
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if yer bow down and pay once then its game over
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I agree that we shouldn't be paying up, and that their choice of destination could have been wiser.
I am disappointed that the government haven't sent the SBS in to slot a few of the pirates and get them out though. I would hope British citizens would get a bit more backing when travelling abroad.
Kevin
Mounting an operation inland in such hostile territory can prove to be a very difficult mission. This is made more so when the hostages - as in this case - have been separated and are constantly moved around.
In addition the crucial intelligence to enable such a mission appears to be of an incomplete nature.
I do agree however that many of these pirates should be capped when identified on the high seas.
I guess my solution was oversimplified. ;D
I guess the sentiment I was trying to get across is that I do hope that someone is working on a plan for their liberation, though, and not just letting them rot. :(
Kevin
I would imagine that they haven't been forgotten, K.
In situations like this the Foriegn Office does quite a lot behind the scenes but like most diplomatic efforts, it's a long, difficult and involved process.
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All those cold war nuclear weapons need decomissioning. Would it be wrong to do it there ::)
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All those cold war nuclear weapons need decomissioning. Would it be wrong to do it there ::)
no,anywhere in africa would be right.
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All those cold war nuclear weapons need decomissioning. Would it be wrong to do it there ::)
no,anywhere in africa would be right.
Save a few for Iran, Iraq, Pakistan and Birmingham.
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All those cold war nuclear weapons need decomissioning. Would it be wrong to do it there ::)
no,anywhere in africa would be right.
Save a few for Iran, Iraq, Pakistan and Birmingham.
Why these?? can understand your 4th choice though... :D :D :D
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It's about time that the west especially Britain and the U.S using all the available intel. sent a couple of submarines to sink these tinkers boats without trace.
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All those cold war nuclear weapons need decomissioning. Would it be wrong to do it there ::)
no,anywhere in africa would be right.
I am sure Mr Mugabe's land would benefit with 'decommisioning' them in his face(but that will never happen) :(
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It's about time that the west especially Britain and the U.S using all the available intel. sent a couple of submarines to sink these tinkers boats without trace.
An attractive solution on the face of it T however the availability of such resources is quite limited and tied to strategic operations (Nuclear Strike vessels).
The amount of resources necessary to station any vessel - even conventional boats - on site for the extended period necessary to make any real inroads into the problem simply are not available at the moment for a number of reasons – duty commitments, availability of serviceable boats and lack of personnel and so on.
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if yer bow down and pay once then its game over
Too late Im afraid, large amounts of money have already been paid to terrorists by the government, and much closer to home. ;)
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If only the Royal Navy vessel which was very close to the scene of the kidnapping and watching it as it happened had been allowed to get involved at the time. ::)
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if yer bow down and pay once then its game over
Too late Im afraid, large amounts of money have already been paid to terrorists by the government, and much closer to home. ;)
.....and it hasn't truely advanced matters by any appreciable degree I must add.