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Title: Smile for the camera please.
Post by: alfie on 06 February 2010, 15:45:10
Hi everyone,son in law just received NIP for speeding,40 in a 30 zone.
He was caught on the17/01,are they supposed to serve the NIP within 14 days or is it longer.
                  Alfie
Title: Re: Smile for the camera please.
Post by: RobG on 06 February 2010, 15:50:40
14 days subject to certain exceptions http://www.lawontheweb.co.uk/crimertonip.htm
Title: Re: Smile for the camera please.
Post by: hotel21 on 06 February 2010, 16:00:55
14 days to the registered keeper of the vehicle.  Deemed served if proof posted within the 14 day period.  No written NIP if driver stopped and verbally warned at the time of the offence.
Title: Re: Smile for the camera please.
Post by: STMO999 on 06 February 2010, 16:04:20
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Hi everyone,son in law just received NIP for speeding,40 in a 30 zone.
He was caught on the17/01,are they supposed to serve the NIP within 14 days or is it longer.
                  Alfie


It he was driving at 40 in a 30 then he should just pay up. It's the law you know. ::)
Title: Re: Smile for the camera please.
Post by: alfie on 06 February 2010, 16:16:14
camera van,parked up in a bus stop,sneaky sod,he,s a rep and no angel,but he don,t want the points.
                Aflie
Title: Re: Smile for the camera please.
Post by: STMO999 on 06 February 2010, 16:24:54
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camera van,parked up in a bus stop,sneaky sod,he,s a rep and no angel,but he don,t want the points.
                Aflie

Who?
Title: Re: Smile for the camera please.
Post by: alfie on 06 February 2010, 16:32:48
SIL
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Post by: waspy on 06 February 2010, 17:45:00
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camera van,parked up in a bus stop,sneaky sod,he,s a rep and no angel,but he don,t want the points.
                Aflie

So there's a possibility that the C.V was parked illegaly then.
Have a look here :y
http://www.speedcam.co.uk/index2.htm
Title: Re: Smile for the camera please.
Post by: waspy on 06 February 2010, 17:46:39
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Hi everyone,son in law just received NIP for speeding,40 in a 30 zone.
He was caught on the17/01,are they supposed to serve the NIP within 14 days or is it longer.
                  Alfie


It he was driving at 40 in a 30 then he should just pay up. It's the law you know. ::)


Mr perfect STOM :P ::)
Title: Re: Smile for the camera please.
Post by: STMO999 on 06 February 2010, 17:57:06
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Hi everyone,son in law just received NIP for speeding,40 in a 30 zone.
He was caught on the17/01,are they supposed to serve the NIP within 14 days or is it longer.
                  Alfie


It he was driving at 40 in a 30 then he should just pay up. It's the law you know. ::)


Mr perfect STOM :P ::)


I have to throw you the odd one Pete. Nobody's perfect.
Title: Re: Smile for the camera please.
Post by: Vamps on 06 February 2010, 23:04:11
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Hi everyone,son in law just received NIP for speeding,40 in a 30 zone.
He was caught on the17/01,are they supposed to serve the NIP within 14 days or is it longer.
                  Alfie


It he was driving at 40 in a 30 then he should just pay up. It's the law you know. ::)


Mr perfect STOM :P ::)


I have to throw you the odd one Pete. Nobody's perfect.

Speak for you self....... ::)  What about me, and ofcourse Little Miss Vamps...... :D :D :D
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Post by: PhilRich on 06 February 2010, 23:08:19
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Hi everyone,son in law just received NIP for speeding,40 in a 30 zone.
He was caught on the17/01,are they supposed to serve the NIP within 14 days or is it longer.
                  Alfie


It he was driving at 40 in a 30 then he should just pay up. It's the law you know. ::)


Mr perfect STOM :P ::)


I have to throw you the odd one Pete. Nobody's perfect.

Speak for your self....... ::)  What about me, and of course Little Miss Vamps...... :D :D :D

A small rap on the knuckles from your local, friendly Pedant ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Smile for the camera please.
Post by: PhilRich on 06 February 2010, 23:09:28
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Hi everyone,son in law just received NIP for speeding,40 in a 30 zone.
He was caught on the17/01,are they supposed to serve the NIP within 14 days or is it longer.
                  Alfie


It he was driving at 40 in a 30 then he should just pay up. It's the law you know. ::)


Mr perfect STOM :P ::)


I have to throw you the odd one Pete. Nobody's perfect.

Speak for your self....... ::)  What about me, and of course Little Miss Vamps...... :D :D :D

A small rap on the knuckles from your local, friendly Pedant ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)




Oh, and the Monkey says, Hi! ;D
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Post by: cruisetopoland on 06 February 2010, 23:17:41
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14 days subject to certain exceptions http://www.lawontheweb.co.uk/crimertonip.htm

Useful link-cheers  :y
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Post by: Vamps on 07 February 2010, 01:01:53
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Hi everyone,son in law just received NIP for speeding,40 in a 30 zone.
He was caught on the17/01,are they supposed to serve the NIP within 14 days or is it longer.
                  Alfie


It he was driving at 40 in a 30 then he should just pay up. It's the law you know. ::)


Mr perfect STOM :P ::)


I have to throw you the odd one Pete. Nobody's perfect.

Speak for your self....... ::)  What about me, and of course Little Miss Vamps...... :D :D :D

A small rap on the knuckles from your local, friendly Pedant ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)




Oh, and the Monkey says, Hi! ;D

 :P :P We were over your way today, and Miss Vamps took her Monkey (Big cuddly thing) with her, to guard the car while were in the town...... :D :D :D
Title: Re: Smile for the camera please.
Post by: alfie on 08 February 2010, 19:26:42
Hi,Firstly I would like to thank those members who positive replies made my son in law check the dates on the NIP.
Gwent police  had taken 19 days to issue the NIP between the date of offence,and the posting date of the NIP.
So I have to ask,what steps should he do next,ignore the letter,phone them, or take legal advice.
He was confident that he had slowed down soon enough,not to get a ticket,he reckons the camera was at least 500 yards away.
Anyway thanks again in advance for the advice.
Alfie.
Title: Re: Smile for the camera please.
Post by: hotel21 on 08 February 2010, 19:31:53
If your son/whoever is the registered keeper of the vehicle in question, I would suggest that you ask for verifiable proof that the NIP was posted within the 14 days whilst at the same time, obliquely advising them of your understanding of the 14 day rule prior to taking legal advice as to your next steps prior to Court process.

If they produce what you request then verify the posting details etc before taking legal advice.

If they drop the case at this point, you have won a watch...

Ensure that at no time is liability assumed nor indeed, suggested.

Its their mistake in the process, not yours.....   ;)
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Post by: Taxi_Driver on 08 February 2010, 19:56:38
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If your son/whoever is the registered keeper of the vehicle in question, I would suggest that you ask for verifiable proof that the NIP was posted within the 14 days whilst at the same time, obliquely advising them of your understanding of the 14 day rule prior to taking legal advice as to your next steps prior to Court process.

If they produce what you request then verify the posting details etc before taking legal advice.

If they drop the case at this point, you have won a watch...

Ensure that at no time is liability assumed nor indeed, suggested.

Its their mistake in the process, not yours.....   ;)

This is a fairly major point as B suggests, as if your son is not the registered keeper there will a time delay, between the registered keeper sending the NIP back and it  being re-issued to the 'correct person', which could be more than 14days. I used to get quite a few NIPS sent to me when i used to rent cars out...so if goes more than 14days but 14days or less for the registered keeper to get it.....nothing you can do, i dont think.
Title: Re: Smile for the camera please.
Post by: alfie on 08 February 2010, 20:18:52
Hi,you have a a valid point there,it is a company car,but he is the keeper.
Alfie
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Post by: Taxi_Driver on 08 February 2010, 20:24:15
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Hi,you have a a valid point there,it is a company car,but he is the keeper.
Alfie

Ahhh.... but not the registered owner, were the NIP will have been sent first.....then sent back, then re-issued to your son......so more than likely with a day or two in the post each time....it would have been issued within 14 days.
Title: Re: Smile for the camera please.
Post by: hotel21 on 08 February 2010, 20:43:34
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Hi,you have a a valid point there,it is a company car,but he is the keeper.
Alfie

Ahhh.... but not the registered owner, were the NIP will have been sent first.....then sent back, then re-issued to your son......so more than likely with a day or two in the post each time....it would have been issued within 14 days.

Its not simply a valid point, its a CRUCIAL point....

If the registered keeper - The Company, PLC - receives it within the 14 day period and promptly returns the NIP naming your son as the person responsible for the day to day operation of the vehicle, then the NIP is deemed served. 

Thereafter its upto your son to pass the buck onto whomsoever was the driver or to take the strap himself, if so responsible.

As said in the initial response to your quest for info....   :y
Title: Re: Smile for the camera please.
Post by: alfie on 09 February 2010, 14:08:07
Drove the same road today,and the bugger was parked on the pavement.
Alfie
Title: Re: Smile for the camera please.
Post by: waspy on 09 February 2010, 15:22:41
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Drove the same road today,and the bugger was parked on the pavement.
Alfie

That annoys the hell outa me. How can they uphold the law whilst breaking it >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(