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Title: something Nickbat would usually post....
Post by: tunnie on 13 February 2010, 19:52:10
when are they going to adjust road tax for motorbikes?

Just taxed the beemer for 12 months, cost me £66. So why, does a diesel Megan which is about 10 times heavier, takes up more room on the road, does more damage to the road and environment only £34 a year to tax?  >:(
Title: Re: something Nickbat would usually post....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 13 February 2010, 19:57:28
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when are they going to adjust road tax for motorbikes?

Just taxed the beemer for 12 months, cost me £66. So why, does a diesel Megan which is about 10 times heavier, takes up more room on the road, does more damage to the road and environment only £34 a year to tax?  >:(


........ Successive governments have been anti-bike for as long as I can remember Tunnie.....Sadly...  :-/ :-/
Title: Re: something Nickbat would usually post....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 13 February 2010, 20:21:09
Would you happen to know what the Co2 figure ......is for that old flat twin of yours Tunnie? ::) :P.
...........pretty low .....I would think... :y
Title: Re: something Nickbat would usually post....
Post by: tunnie on 13 February 2010, 20:37:20
wanted to include it in the post, but spent a good 10 mins trying to find it, no joy. Imagine its a fraction of a 1.4 derv  :-/
Title: Re: something Nickbat would usually post....
Post by: Kevin Wood on 14 February 2010, 11:34:20
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wanted to include it in the post, but spent a good 10 mins trying to find it, no joy. Imagine its a fraction of a 1.4 derv  :-/

What fuel consumption does it return? That will be pretty much proportional to it.

Kevin
Title: Re: something Nickbat would usually post....
Post by: VXL V6 on 14 February 2010, 11:37:28
Sorry but road tax has nothing to do with roads and repairing them.
Title: Re: something Nickbat would usually post....
Post by: tunnie on 14 February 2010, 11:40:39
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wanted to include it in the post, but spent a good 10 mins trying to find it, no joy. Imagine its a fraction of a 1.4 derv  :-/

What fuel consumption does it return? That will be pretty much proportional to it.

Kevin

about 50mpg on average, so about the same as a derv Megan.
Title: Re: something Nickbat would usually post....
Post by: tunnie on 14 February 2010, 11:45:15
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Sorry but road tax has nothing to do with roads and repairing them.

My argument is with co2 rating for tax
Title: Re: something Nickbat would usually post....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 14 February 2010, 11:46:03
I thought it was all linked to CO2 figures.......the higher the figure ......the more the road tax costs. :-/
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Post by: Nickbat on 14 February 2010, 11:58:19
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when are they going to adjust road tax for motorbikes?

Just taxed the beemer for 12 months, cost me £66. So why, does a diesel Megan which is about 10 times heavier, takes up more room on the road, does more damage to the road and environment only £34 a year to tax?  >:(


I think this government paper covers the subject, Tunnie:

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200607/cmselect/cmtran/698/69804.htm
UPDATED:
The paper refers to the ECEM (European Motor Cycle Industry) in a number of places, but doesn't show the actual data. So, in conjunction with the government paper, you can read the ECEM report on motorcycle emissions here (PDF):

http://www.acem.eu/media/d_card_environment_light_32251.pdf
 :y
Title: Re: something Nickbat would usually post....
Post by: VXL V6 on 14 February 2010, 11:58:48
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Sorry but road tax has nothing to do with roads and repairing them.

My argument is with co2 rating for tax

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So why, does a diesel Megan which is about 10 times heavier, takes up more room on the road, does more damage to the road and environment only £34 a year to tax?

Granted but my point is that you will be charged whatever DVLA/HMG deems appropriate regardless of it being based on C02 / amount of tread on your tyres / colour of your vehicle or whatever they dream up next.

In short C02 is just a nice easy supposedly 'green' way of legitimising taxing you and then using the money elsewhere.

Don't know why a bike should be charged more than a car though when they are using the same variable element :(

Of course DVLA/HMG could argue that you go further per gallon of fuel and hence are not paying the same amount of fuel tax per mile as a less fuel efficient vehicle.
Title: Re: something Nickbat would usually post....
Post by: Hannah Judes Dad on 15 February 2010, 13:40:07
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when are they going to adjust road tax for motorbikes?

Just taxed the beemer for 12 months, cost me £66. So why, does a diesel Megan which is about 10 times heavier, takes up more room on the road, does more damage to the road and environment only £34 a year to tax?  >:(

I've just been in contact with Suzuki about my 650 Bandit and if road tax was charged the same as it is for cars then I would have to pay £0 for the year,me thinks this is unfair as like tunnie I have to pay £66. >:(
Title: Re: something Nickbat would usually post....
Post by: tunnie on 15 February 2010, 13:57:23
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when are they going to adjust road tax for motorbikes?

Just taxed the beemer for 12 months, cost me £66. So why, does a diesel Megan which is about 10 times heavier, takes up more room on the road, does more damage to the road and environment only £34 a year to tax?  >:(

I've just been in contact with Suzuki about my 650 Bandit and if road tax was charged the same as it is for cars then I would have to pay £0 for the year,me thinks this is unfair as like tunnie I have to pay £66. >:(

Interestingly my old Yam MT-03 was 660cc single, which is a completley different bike in terms of power & use, yet its the same to tax per year.

Beemer gets the same mpg though, not bad considering its got twice cc capacticy