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Title: Bin collections to go fortnighly countrywide
Post by: Nickbat on 20 February 2010, 09:28:14
My bin gets emptied once a week, but that is about to stop as Councils are ordered to save £550m from their waste disposal budgets. But is it really about saving money...or avoiding EU fines? And how much will it cost to reduce the landfill amount by 2.4m tonnes?

I recycle a lot, and I'm all for it. What I am very much against is EU interference in domestic policies. This is all the more irksome when this fact is hidden from the public.

http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2010/02/saving-money.html

 >:( >:(   
Title: Re: Bin collections to go fortnighly countrywide
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 20 February 2010, 09:30:33
We have had fortnightly bin collections for years, not had any issues with it to be honest
Title: Re: Bin collections to go fortnighly countrywide
Post by: Nickbat on 20 February 2010, 09:39:04
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We have had fortnightly bin collections for years, not had any issues with it to be honest

I think I could manage easily with fortnightly collections but I'd rather it was a decision taken by locally-elected councillors, not unelected bureaucrats in Brussels. That's my beef with this.
Title: Re: Bin collections to go fortnighly countrywide
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 20 February 2010, 09:42:12
Well I guess given how long our fortnightly collections have been in place then it would have been a local decision.

Title: Re: Bin collections to go fortnighly countrywide
Post by: Nickbat on 20 February 2010, 09:46:12
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Well I guess given how long our fortnightly collections have been in place then it would have been a local decision.


Yes, it would have been. What do you do about food waste, though? Is that recycled?
Title: Re: Bin collections to go fortnighly countrywide
Post by: TheBoy on 20 February 2010, 09:52:48
Been fortnightly (well, normal rubbish one week, compostable the next) since 2001.  We found it takes a bit of getting used to, but works OK. The thing we had to get used to was wrapping up a chicken carcass to prevent maggots etc.

Helps if you get on with your neighbours, as if you're on hols and miss a week, it can be up to a month between bin collections otherwise.

Even those with families around here don't struggle to fit it all in, as you soon get more into the recycling aspect - though initially some people think they are somehow above having to do this.

Over Christmas, they suspend the compostable (cardboard/veggie peelings/grass cuttings etc) and do normal rubbish for 2 or 3 consecutive weeks.



Personally, I like the scheme they have here.
Title: Re: Bin collections to go fortnighly countrywide
Post by: TheBoy on 20 February 2010, 09:55:19
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Well I guess given how long our fortnightly collections have been in place then it would have been a local decision.


Yes, it would have been. What do you do about food waste, though? Is that recycled?
For us in South Northants, food waste goes in our 'compostable' bin, but as said previously, we wrap up certain things (the council gave me a load of compostable bags when I complained ;)).  christmas turkey ended up (wrapped in a couple of tesco bags) in normal bin
Title: Re: Bin collections to go fortnighly countrywide
Post by: Nickbat on 20 February 2010, 09:59:05
Just thinking that I could always get some chickens to eat the food waste and get some free eggs at the same time. Don't know if the neighbours would appreciate the early morning wake-up call though.  ;).
Title: Re: Bin collections to go fortnighly countrywide
Post by: Nickbat on 20 February 2010, 10:00:37
..and, of course, we must all do our bit to save the councils money..... ::) ::) ::) ::)

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/159402/15-pay-rise-for-council-bosses
Title: Re: Bin collections to go fortnighly countrywide
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 20 February 2010, 10:02:52
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Well I guess given how long our fortnightly collections have been in place then it would have been a local decision.


Yes, it would have been. What do you do about food waste, though? Is that recycled?

No, not yet.

We have

Green bin - garden waste
Blue Bin - Recyclables - Plastic (yes most plastic!), cans cardboard, tetra packs etc.
Grey bin - Domestic waste

We do have to take glass to the recycling point ourself but thats no big issue as they have them at all the supermarkets.
Title: Re: Bin collections to go fortnighly countrywide
Post by: Varche on 20 February 2010, 10:12:09
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Just thinking that I could always get some chickens to eat the food waste and get some free eggs at the same time. Don't know if the neighbours would appreciate the early morning wake-up call though.  ;).


Get some. Hens don't make noise. Very easy to look after, fun for the kids and you get quality eggs not the battery rubbish in the shops. However don't get a cockerel Unless you want to try and hatch some eggs) as they do make real noise. You will never look back.
Title: Re: Bin collections to go fortnighly countrywide
Post by: TheBoy on 20 February 2010, 10:21:22
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Well I guess given how long our fortnightly collections have been in place then it would have been a local decision.


Yes, it would have been. What do you do about food waste, though? Is that recycled?

No, not yet.

We have

Green bin - garden waste
Blue Bin - Recyclables - Plastic (yes most plastic!), cans cardboard, tetra packs etc.
Grey bin - Domestic waste

We do have to take glass to the recycling point ourself but thats no big issue as they have them at all the supermarkets.
We have:
Black bin - normal landfill
Green bin - compostable (garden waste (but not wood or thicker branches),cardboard,shredded paper)
Green basket - Glass
Black basket - plastics and tins

(may have got the baskets slightly wrong, they are her domain ::))
Title: Re: Bin collections to go fortnighly countrywide
Post by: Banjax on 20 February 2010, 11:05:44
you must be the last part of the UK not to be fortnightly Nick - I thought everyone was - makes no difference aside from reducing waste  :y
Title: Re: Bin collections to go fortnighly countrywide
Post by: Chris_H on 20 February 2010, 11:17:24
Here we have green bins (food waste and garden compostables) collected weekly.

General household waste in black bins collected fortnightly but alternating with [blue box (glass and cans) and clear bags (paper and plastics)].

Fortunately we can print out the collection weeks off the council's website if we lost the leaflet they delivered.  Having said that I just looked for it and couldn't find it there was so much 'stuff' on the website!
Title: Re: Bin collections to go fortnighly countrywide
Post by: TheBoy on 20 February 2010, 11:19:42
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Here we have green bins (food waste and garden compostables) collected weekly.

General household waste in black bins collected fortnightly but alternating with [blue box (glass and cans) and clear bags (paper and plastics)].

Fortunately we can print out the collection weeks off the council's website if we lost the leaflet they delivered.  Having said that I just looked for it and couldn't find it there was so much 'stuff' on the website!
I always look what colour all the neighbours have put out ;D
Title: Re: Bin collections to go fortnighly countrywide
Post by: Chris_H on 20 February 2010, 11:23:03
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Here we have green bins (food waste and garden compostables) collected weekly.

General household waste in black bins collected fortnightly but alternating with [blue box (glass and cans) and clear bags (paper and plastics)].

Fortunately we can print out the collection weeks off the council's website if we lost the leaflet they delivered.  Having said that I just looked for it and couldn't find it there was so much 'stuff' on the website!
I always look what colour all the neighbours have put out ;D
Good thought but horrendously unreliable round here!

We still have people putting green waste out in white bags that went out of fashion months ago.  Needless to say they don't get collected even though the council provided the bags.
Title: Re: Bin collections to go fortnighly countrywide
Post by: albitz on 20 February 2010, 11:24:20
It depends what is meant by fortnightly.Our general waste is collected on alternate weeks as is the recycling.The recycling is collected on the week that the general isnt so we have collections once per week. :-/
Title: Re: Bin collections to go fortnighly countrywide
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 20 February 2010, 11:26:27
Black Wheelie Bin = Non Recycle emptied once a fortnight.

Green Wheelie Bine - Garden waste emptied alternate weeks.

Blue container = Glass and Metal emptied same day as green bin

Blue canvas bag = Newspaper emptied on green bin fortnight.


No problems for us, 2 black bins allowed for larger families.


If anything ever changed then would add one for plastics, but then it gets daft regards space,
Title: Re: Bin collections to go fortnighly countrywide
Post by: TheBoy on 20 February 2010, 11:26:44
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Here we have green bins (food waste and garden compostables) collected weekly.

General household waste in black bins collected fortnightly but alternating with [blue box (glass and cans) and clear bags (paper and plastics)].

Fortunately we can print out the collection weeks off the council's website if we lost the leaflet they delivered.  Having said that I just looked for it and couldn't find it there was so much 'stuff' on the website!
I always look what colour all the neighbours have put out ;D
Good thought but horrendously unreliable round here!

We still have people putting green waste out in white bags that went out of fashion months ago.  Needless to say they don't get collected even though the council provided the bags.
We've had same system for 9yrs, so everyone is used to it (except people who have just moved in - I normally knock on their door if a new owner has cocked up (we have a good community spirit in our Close))
Title: Re: Bin collections to go fortnighly countrywide
Post by: TheBoy on 20 February 2010, 11:28:29
In Aylesbury, when I lived there, about 15yrs ago, they enforced recycling by still emptying the bins weekly, but providing much smaller wheelie bins.  That worked well as well, after the initial uproar that people would need to get up off their fat, lazy arses and recycle.
Title: Re: Bin collections to go fortnighly countrywide
Post by: threppence on 20 February 2010, 11:34:10
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Well I guess given how long our fortnightly collections have been in place then it would have been a local decision.


Yes, it would have been. What do you do about food waste, though? Is that recycled?

No, not yet.

We have

Green bin - garden waste
Blue Bin - Recyclables - Plastic (yes most plastic!), cans cardboard, tetra packs etc.
Grey bin - Domestic waste

We do have to take glass to the recycling point ourself but thats no big issue as they have them at all the supermarkets.

We were told not to recycle these.
Having just had a bin strike here in Leeds,well a month or 2 ago,any sort of regular service is greatly appreciated,Not having collections for 2 months + really focuses your mind on how much waste is generated, and how much pointless packaging and plastic there is.
Title: Re: Bin collections to go fortnighly countrywide
Post by: feeutfo on 20 February 2010, 11:41:54
we have black boxs here in Reading district council, you can have as many as you like at a small cost each, all they ask is seperate the platic and tins from the paper, garden waste goes in a nylon bag. Black boxs and garden waste rotate weekly. Household rubbish is black bin sacks every week.

We have no bin cupboard as some other houses do near us, so each time it rains the boxs fill with water and leak through the drain holes all over your feet when you pick them up.

Go two mins up the road to Reading council and they get 3 differant coloured wheely bins per household. Far better.
Title: Re: Bin collections to go fortnighly countrywide
Post by: waspy on 20 February 2010, 12:55:26
Once a fortnight :-? Mine goes out (on average) about every six weeks (sometimes longer).
I recycle as much as i can, but when we buy products in packaging that can't be recycled ( No 3-4-5-6 plastics for example).
They should concentrate on the producers of the products & get them to use more popular packaging etc.
Title: Re: Bin collections to go fortnighly countrywide
Post by: jerry on 20 February 2010, 13:08:41
we have alternate collections here; one week its gen waste, the other recyclable. The problem is that theyre still not set up to recycle all the things that could be recycled so that ,whilst the green bin is fine to be emptied fortnightly, the other is always full plus a few bags over which they will not collect. Result is a steady build up of smelly bags that I then have to stink the car out with when I take the hour odd round journey to the local tip. My council tax keeps creeping up but my service levels keep going down >:(For those who either cant or wont do a tip run the end result is an increase in flytipping and calls to the "enviromental rangers" as theyre called. It really wasnt rocket science to predict that this was exactly what was going to happen, but hey, when did the words "common sense"and "local council "ever go in the same sentence.... ::) :(
Title: Re: Bin collections to go fortnighly countrywide
Post by: Nickbat on 20 February 2010, 13:20:55
I've had weekly collections of both recycled and general waste, plus we have a free skip service every six months. :y :y

As I said at the beginning, I don't mind every two weeks at all, I would just like the real reason behind it to be revealed.

I hate waste, but I hate obfuscation just as much. ;)
Title: Re: Bin collections to go fortnighly countrywide
Post by: Varche on 20 February 2010, 13:32:30
No door to door rubbish collections in Spain. Instead plenty of street big green wheely bins everywhere, plus a good selection of recycling wheely bins. The bins get emptied very regularly. Much lower council tax a result.

Recycling is further advanced here (even waste cooking oil bins) and is a way of life. When you go out you take something to the bins!
Title: Re: Bin collections to go fortnighly countrywide
Post by: Ddraigcymro on 20 February 2010, 13:33:19
 Well we all need to remember that all councils are running a trial run of there own and at some point it might just show which scheme worked the best, although it may cause further confusion for a grater part of us if one method works best.
 I`t is found though that once the food waste collection was brought in, in a certain area, that the collection of black bags (or G-waste) have warrant taking off the road at least a ash cart and also the weight now carried could allow collection to go fortnightly, well after the food has been collected separate and all the cans/bottles have been washed, or rinsed at least, there would be no attraction for unwanted pests.

Now I wish I hadn't read this as I'm now boring myself as to the multiple reasons there are but two council 18ton+ lorries a in my culdesac every week no thanks and I will welcome the fortnightly collection
Title: Re: Bin collections to go fortnighly countrywide
Post by: Jimbob on 20 February 2010, 14:20:31
we have rubbish BAG collections weekly,

fortnightly they take garden waste (wheelie bin)
and the recycling
Glass, Plastic, Paper / Cardboard.
Title: Re: Bin collections to go fortnighly countrywide
Post by: Kevin Wood on 20 February 2010, 17:12:47
Nice to see so much standardisation on the colour and type of bins. ::)

We have a green one for landfill and a black one for recycling (tins, plastic bottles and paper only) alternate weeks and a glass collection once in a blue moon but I can never remember when - so that's a waste of diesel.

Also a separate garden waste collection but you have to pay extra for that so I hide it in the landfill bin take it to the tip.

Kevin
Title: Re: Bin collections to go fortnighly countrywide
Post by: Chris_H on 20 February 2010, 17:23:57
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Nice to see so much standardisation on the colour and type of bins. ::)

We have a green one for landfill and a black one for recycling (tins, plastic bottles and paper only) alternate weeks and a glass collection once in a blue moon but I can never remember when - so that's a waste of diesel.

Also a separate garden waste collection but you have to pay extra for that so I hide it in the landfill bin take it to the tip.

Kevin
I'd love to see that outside your house! :D
Title: Re: Bin collections to go fortnighly countrywide
Post by: Debs. on 20 February 2010, 17:33:12
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I've had weekly collections of both recycled and general waste, plus we have a free skip service every six months. :y :y

As I said at the beginning, I don't mind every two weeks at all, I would just like the real reason behind it to be revealed.

I hate waste, but I hate obfuscation just as much. ;)

Well, stop it then; or it`ll damage your eyes! ;D
Title: Re: Bin collections to go fortnighly countrywide
Post by: mars on 20 February 2010, 21:00:22
We have a collection every week which alternates between green bin (landfill), and brown bin (garden waste etc). Our small box for tin cans/glass etc is put out on the same week as landfill and plastics are on the same day but must be in a see-through bag or the council won't take it away ::)
Title: Re: Bin collections to go fortnighly countrywide
Post by: Mr Hagon on 21 February 2010, 23:00:57
For me the council has always done weekly rubbish collection and fortnightly recycling collection.  A while ago it became weekly for each which made it easier than trying to remember whether it was a recycling week.

They've rolled out these fancy different bins to most areas but living in a cul-de-sac in a maisonette makes it harder to be catered for but I expect our time will come.
Title: Re: Bin collections to go fortnighly countrywide
Post by: Vamps on 21 February 2010, 23:23:39
We have weekly general bin. Recently recycling every 2 weeks, so I have a box for glass, plastic. paper, cardboard and tins.  ::) Problem with this is that you can see how many Whisky bottles are in it :-[ and the neighbours :D :D :D This shows how much rubbish we used  to put in the bin as it is often only half full when put out.  Last year we also got a brown wheelie bin for garden waste which has proved a godsend, much less runs to the tip now.... :y
Title: Re: Bin collections to go fortnighly countrywide
Post by: Jimbob on 22 February 2010, 07:59:14
My biggest gripe is the amount of bins some are now expected to store
we have a average size 3 bed semi, with garage, only route to back of house is through the house or garage, the garage is normally to full to squeeze a bin through (and we only have a smaller size garden waste wheelie bin)  If like some areas we get 3 large wheelie bins, where am I meant to put them?  cant get them from the back to the front of the house easily, not room at the front, they either stand in front of the living room window, or block the garage door.

Im not against recycling etc, glad we (currently) have a stacking box solution (easy fit in the garage)  but the logistics for some must be a nightmare, and I dread it coming here.