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Title: Wales
Post by: tunnie on 04 March 2010, 16:14:36
Been toying with the idea of a little camping trip to Wales on the bike, after 17th March i am not due back in the office till April  ::)

This site gets good reviews, any one used them before?

http://www.ukcampsite.co.uk/sites/details.asp?revid=5203

Been Googling for some good roads around Wales, found a few that look good, any local Welsh OOF people got some?

B4407 near Ffestiniog

(http://www.pointandsquirt.co.uk/images/B4407.jpg)

The Pass of Llanberis

(http://www.pointandsquirt.co.uk/images/llanberis.jpg)

A543

(http://www.pointandsquirt.co.uk/images/A543.jpg)

Be good opportunity to test new tent, and some other camping gear, its only 150 miles from me going the country way too, so i know i can do that in a day, most likely route:

 http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=LL40+2AB&daddr=A443+to:B4090%2FSalt+Way+to:A46%2FStratford+Rd+to:A422+to:52.021867,-1.144295&hl=en&geocode=FazbJAMdDhLF_ykhAt79yWRlSDGwuanugUM8vg%3BFdq-HQMdgHbc_w%3BFQZhHQMdNhHh_w%3BFdSdHAMdmizk_w%3BFfRgGwMdHv_n_w%3B&mra=dme&mrcr=0&mrsp=5&sz=12&via=1,2,3,4&sll=52.069166,-1.254158&sspn=0.156805,0.439453&ie=UTF8&ll=52.434246,-2.081909&spn=1.244156,2.469177&z=9

Title: Re: Wales
Post by: alunonhisown on 04 March 2010, 16:16:29
Wrong end of Wales for me.
We have a brilliant camp site close by, in the Brecon Beacons National Park though.
Called Grawen Farm, look it up.
D.
Title: Re: Wales
Post by: Sir Popple on 04 March 2010, 16:20:47
Come to Ireland, Mayo, Galway and they can not put points on your licence if the right hand becomes a little heavy.
Title: Re: Wales
Post by: tunnie on 04 March 2010, 16:28:10
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Come to Ireland, Mayo, Galway and they can not put points on your licence if the right hand becomes a little heavy.

Its on the list, but get you with ferry costs, £200+ return  :o
Title: Re: Wales
Post by: ChevetteNick on 04 March 2010, 16:33:42
I personally like to do a loop when out on the bike so i'd modify my route to head for Newtown when you reach Churchstoke then head for Machynlleth on the A470, A489 then A487 to Dolgellau. On the way back i would head for Welshpool then Shrewsbury on the A458 and after bypassing Shrewsbury on the A5 pick up the A458 and head for Bridgnorth and get on the A442 to Kiddy and then the A449 heading to Droitwich.
Title: Re: Wales
Post by: Sir Popple on 04 March 2010, 16:33:52
It never is? i use to come here on my ZZ1100 and if i remember it was only around £75.
Title: Re: Wales
Post by: Sir Popple on 04 March 2010, 16:34:41
Sorry missed the R ZZR1100 wish i still had it!!!! :(
Title: Re: Wales
Post by: tunnie on 04 March 2010, 16:37:18
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I personally like to do a loop when out on the bike so i'd modify my route to head for Newtown when you reach Churchstoke then head for Machynlleth on the A470, A489 then A487 to Dolgellau. On the way back i would head for Welshpool then Shrewsbury on the A458 and after bypassing Shrewsbury on the A5 pick up the A458 and head for Bridgnorth and get on the A442 to Kiddy and then the A449 heading to Droitwich.

Thanks, that does look more interesting way  :y
Title: Re: Wales
Post by: ChevetteNick on 04 March 2010, 16:42:33
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Thanks, that does look more interesting way  :y
I know all the roads very well tunnie in fact i would probably reverse it as the road from Dolgellau to Machynlleth (A487) is downhill and the views are breathtaking.
Title: Re: Wales
Post by: vauxsull on 04 March 2010, 16:44:00
couldn't agree more nick its a fantastic area to go hiking in ...
Title: Re: Wales
Post by: tunnie on 04 March 2010, 16:45:14
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Thanks, that does look more interesting way  :y
I know all the roads very well tunnie in fact i would probably reverse it as the road from Dolgellau to Machynlleth (A487) is downhill and the views are breathtaking.

So something along these lines?

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=LL40+2AB&daddr=52.653895,-3.851395+to:Long+Length+to:A443+to:B4090%2FSalt+Way+to:A46%2FStratford+Rd+to:A422+to:A43&hl=en&geocode=FazbJAMdDhLF_ykhAt79yWRlSDGwuanugUM8vg%3B%3BFZJTIQMdLAPM_w%3BFdq-HQMdgHbc_w%3BFQZhHQMdNhHh_w%3BFdSdHAMdmizk_w%3BFfRgGwMdHv_n_w%3BFZTHGQMdYInu_w&mra=dpe&mrcr=0&mrsp=1&sz=11&via=1,2,3,4,5,6&sll=52.636397,-3.755264&sspn=0.309611,0.617294&ie=UTF8&ll=52.640564,-3.35495&spn=0.619161,1.234589&z=10
Title: Re: Wales
Post by: ChevetteNick on 04 March 2010, 16:51:52
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So something along these lines?
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=LL40+2AB&daddr=52.653895,-3.851395+to:Long+Length+to:A443+to:B4090%2FSalt+Way+to:A46%2FStratford+Rd+to:A422+to:A43&hl=en&geocode=FazbJAMdDhLF_ykhAt79yWRlSDGwuanugUM8vg%3B%3BFZJTIQMdLAPM_w%3BFdq-HQMdgHbc_w%3BFQZhHQMdNhHh_w%3BFdSdHAMdmizk_w%3BFfRgGwMdHv_n_w%3BFZTHGQMdYInu_w&mra=dpe&mrcr=0&mrsp=1&sz=11&via=1,2,3,4,5,6&sll=52.636397,-3.755264&sspn=0.309611,0.617294&ie=UTF8&ll=52.640564,-3.35495&spn=0.619161,1.234589&z=10[/quote]

Thats it :y
Title: Re: Wales
Post by: MaxV6 on 04 March 2010, 16:53:16
head further round, to the end of the Lleyn , around Nefyn, Tudweiliog , Sarn Aberdaron...


better weather....  less intensely touristy camping....  and nicer people (assuming you speak welsh )


it's my home turf to some extent.... 


the weather tends to be better because the moisture coming in off the sea hasn't yet been forced up to colder air.... 

same applies to much of ynys Mon (anglesey to you)


i can do Anglesey from here in 3.5 hours no problem...

Nefyn and so on take longer by car due to the lack of dual carriageway ..... 


the route you show is slightly off....


best route , IMHO, is M40-M42 bromsgrove , kidderminster bridgnorth shrewsbury, A5 as far as the wrexham bypass junction just before Llangollen....


then for pretty you go along the A5, possibly around horseshoe pass if you have time, but to get along the north coast in a hurry, head straight up the A483 wrexham bypass, get off at wrexham, head to mold, and then drop down to the A55 coast road....

that'll get you on to Anglesey quicker...

if you end up heading  to the Lleyn, then it depends on time and day....

in general, up to Corwen on the route previosuly mentioned, then drop down the A494 to Bala , cut across the mountain road A4212 to Trawsffynedd , then along to porthmadog , and around the coast road...

cutting across through Yfor via Chwilog if heading for the nefyn side....  it bypasses pwllheli



spellings from memory and piss poor typing excepted...  ;-)


wish i was up there now frankly.....

Title: Re: Wales
Post by: tunnie on 04 March 2010, 16:57:29
Cheers guys  :y

Max, as i am going on the bike, i'll avoid the M40 and cut across through Stratford, longer way, but nicer on the bike :)

Title: Re: Wales
Post by: Debs. on 04 March 2010, 17:36:52
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.........in general, up to Corwen on the route previosuly mentioned, then drop down the A494 to Bala , cut across the mountain road A4212 to Trawsffynedd.........

Bala to Traws. (passing Llyn Celyn on the way); has to one of the best biking roads in Wales......and only a mile or two from Debs`towers. ;)
Title: Re: Wales
Post by: tunnie on 04 March 2010, 17:47:21
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.........in general, up to Corwen on the route previosuly mentioned, then drop down the A494 to Bala , cut across the mountain road A4212 to Trawsffynedd.........



Bala to Traws. (passing Llyn Celyn on the way); has to one of the best biking roads in Wales......and only a mile or two from Debs`towers. ;)

Is that an invite Debs  :-*  :D

Was going to go up the B4403 into Bala, so along that into the A4212, the back up the BB4407 sounnds good idea  :)
Title: Re: Wales
Post by: TheBoy on 04 March 2010, 18:08:37
Ah break, I don't believe it.  I'm out that way at around the same time :o
Title: Re: Wales
Post by: tunnie on 04 March 2010, 18:09:07
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Ah break, I don't believe it.  I'm out that way at around the same time :o

Business or pleasure?
Title: Re: Wales
Post by: TheBoy on 04 March 2010, 18:09:29
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Ah break, I don't believe it.  I'm out that way at around the same time :o

Business or pleasure?
Sheep Pleasure
Title: Re: Wales
Post by: Debs. on 04 March 2010, 18:22:15
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Ah break, I don't believe it.  I'm out that way at around the same time :o

Business or pleasure?
Pleasure

Ah yes; many English people come to Wales to pleasure themselves.....they go home for a rest!;D
Title: Re: Wales
Post by: tunnie on 04 March 2010, 18:25:37
I'll keep an eye out for Mr Angry then, but will it be in silver bullet?  :'(
Title: Re: Wales
Post by: TheBoy on 04 March 2010, 18:27:20
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I'll keep an eye out for Mr Angry then, but will it be in silver bullet?  :'(
Jury is still out on that one  :'(