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Title: one for the bikers
Post by: zippo on 02 March 2010, 21:09:39
Can any one tell me the difference between world super bikes and motogp please.
Title: Re: one for the bikers
Post by: jim351 on 02 March 2010, 21:38:31
world super bike are modified showroom bikes and Motogp bikes are totally one off's, just like touring cars and F1...

jim
Title: Re: one for the bikers
Post by: zippo on 02 March 2010, 21:39:42
Cheers Jim  :y :y :y
Title: Re: one for the bikers
Post by: feeutfo on 03 March 2010, 01:59:18
aeye, production based and prototype.
Title: Re: one for the bikers
Post by: albitz on 03 March 2010, 15:12:35
Motogp is the two wheeled equivalent of F1. WSB isnt the equivalent of touring cars though,its much higher up the scale than that. There isnt really a 4 wheeled version of WSB.
Although based on production models, WSB machines are a lot closer to Motogp machines than touring cars are to F1 cars.
Title: Re: one for the bikers
Post by: Hannah Judes Dad on 03 March 2010, 16:45:23
World supers have to retain the stroke and bore of the production bike engine they are based on.Moto GP are prototypes with different rules and a smaller engine capacity (at the moment 800cc,has been 990cc(both four stroke) and before that 500cc two stroke screamers).The minimum weight limits for wsb and moto gp are different as is the fuel capacity of the bikes.It is limited to 21 litres in moto gp,wsb can use the size of the production machine so vary between manufacturers.Moto gp was reduced to 800 to 'slow them down' but they have greater corner speed than the 990 they replaced,so at a few circuits last season the overall lap time was less on an 800 than a 990(slowing down really worked).wsb have to be homologated with a minimum production run of said bike available for the public to purchase,usually 1000 bikes.
Title: Re: one for the bikers
Post by: ChevetteNick on 03 March 2010, 18:58:38
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author=646D62626D64667968697F686D680C0 link=1267564179/5#5 date=1267634723]before that 500cc two stroke screamers).[/quote]
Those were the days :'(
Title: Re: one for the bikers
Post by: Hannah Judes Dad on 03 March 2010, 21:27:13
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author=646D62626D64667968697F686D680C0 link=1267564179/5#5 date=1267634723]before that 500cc two stroke screamers).
Those were the days :'(
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Best noise in the world,love the smell of two stroke as it flies by at 17000 rpm  :) :y
Title: Re: one for the bikers
Post by: feeutfo on 03 March 2010, 21:53:14
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author=646D62626D64667968697F686D680C0 link=1267564179/5#5 date=1267634723]before that 500cc two stroke screamers).
Those were the days :'(
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was a great era, but i dont miss them, did you know, the max output of any 500 was less than the first production fireblade. Or so i read. iirc
Title: Re: one for the bikers
Post by: Turk on 03 March 2010, 22:49:53
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World supers have to retain the stroke and bore of the production bike engine they are based on.Moto GP are prototypes with different rules and a smaller engine capacity (at the moment 800cc,has been 990cc(both four stroke) and before that 500cc two stroke screamers).The minimum weight limits for wsb and moto gp are different as is the fuel capacity of the bikes.It is limited to 21 litres in moto gp,wsb can use the size of the production machine so vary between manufacturers.Moto gp was reduced to 800 to 'slow them down' but they have greater corner speed than the 990 they replaced,so at a few circuits last season the overall lap time was less on an 800 than a 990(slowing down really worked).wsb have to be homologated with a minimum production run of said bike available for the public to purchase,usually 1000 bikes.
My mate bought a Foggy replica.  "Only" cost him £21,000 in 1998.
http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/ducati/ducati_996sps_foggy_.htm
The keys were handed over by Carl Fogarty himself at the NEC bike show.
Title: Re: one for the bikers
Post by: ChevetteNick on 04 March 2010, 02:55:57
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was a great era, but i dont miss them, did you know, the max output of any 500 was less than the first production fireblade. Or so i read. iirc
Can't believe that mate. My KR1 is 56bhp in standard trim and the 500s were essentially 2 of them bolted together.
Check out Kork Ballington and his bike from '82 stroker fans :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojeq3iu4HrY
Title: Re: one for the bikers
Post by: Martin_1962 on 04 March 2010, 08:05:44
I wondered what happened to the 500cc 2 stroke GP bikes :(
Title: Re: one for the bikers
Post by: Hannah Judes Dad on 04 March 2010, 09:52:23
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I wondered what happened to the 500cc 2 stroke GP bikes :(

They got replaced by 990cc four strokes a few years back to be reduced in capacity to 800cc.There is talk of 2011/2 having 1000cc machines as well on the grid.
Title: Re: one for the bikers
Post by: albitz on 04 March 2010, 18:28:48
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[quote
author=646D62626D64667968697F686D680C0 link=1267564179/5#5 date=1267634723]before that 500cc two stroke screamers).
Those were the days :'(

was a great era, but i dont miss them, did you know, the max output of any 500 was less than the first production fireblade. Or so i read. iirc
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That would be reffering to road bikes Chris. I cant recall any 2 stroke road bike which achieved 100bhp (but the way they delivered the power was the fun part), the 500 2 stroke GP bikes were just over 200bhp and the throttle was by all accounts more like an on/off switch. A lot more difficult to ride than todays bikes according to Rossi. :y