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Title: Linux recommendations
Post by: Gaffers on 07 March 2010, 19:39:33
I used to be into linux many years ago but have dropped about for about a decade, back then I used Redhat.

I want to get back into it and I am wondering what the best one is....

It must be usable for various network penetration tools and highly configurable yet a good GUI and low cost would be ideal.

Any thoughts welcome :y
Title: Re: Linux recommendations
Post by: ChevetteNick on 07 March 2010, 20:22:00
There's so many linux distros out there it's hard to select just 1 as the best. Have a look here (http://www.linux.com/learn/docs/ldp/282996-choosing-the-best-linux-distributions-for-you) and see if it helps you :y
Title: Re: Linux recommendations
Post by: Gaffers on 07 March 2010, 20:24:16
I have gone Debian.  Anyone tried it for using hacking tools, general geekiness, etc (legitimate use before anyone gets upset :y)
Title: Re: Linux recommendations
Post by: dbug on 07 March 2010, 20:26:04
Try UBUNTU mate - good distro free download- Debian-derived Linux distro that focuses on usability :y

Get it here -> http://www.ubuntu.com/GetUbuntu/download
Title: Re: Linux recommendations
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 07 March 2010, 20:43:26
I thought Linux was supposed to be free?
Title: Re: Linux recommendations
Post by: dbug on 07 March 2010, 20:51:30
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I thought Linux was supposed to be free?

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Try UBUNTU mate - good distro free download- Debian-derived Linux distro that focuses on usability :y

Get it here -> http://www.ubuntu.com/GetUbuntu/download

 :-? ;)
Title: Re: Linux recommendations
Post by: TheBoy on 07 March 2010, 21:17:34
Depends what you want it for, but your choice of Debian is a good general purpose distro.
Title: Re: Linux recommendations
Post by: TheBoy on 07 March 2010, 21:19:10
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I thought Linux was supposed to be free?
It is, depending on your definition of 'free' ;)

Redhat, for example, is hugely more expensive over a 5yr period than, say, Windows server. But its still 'free'
Title: Re: Linux recommendations
Post by: Gaffers on 07 March 2010, 21:39:14
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I thought Linux was supposed to be free?
It is, depending on your definition of 'free' ;)

Redhat, for example, is hugely more expensive over a 5yr period than, say, Windows server. But its still 'free'

Only if you want updates and tech support from what I can see  :(
Title: Re: Linux recommendations
Post by: Andy H on 07 March 2010, 21:42:28
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Try UBUNTU mate - good distro free download- Debian-derived Linux distro that focuses on usability :y

Get it here -> http://www.ubuntu.com/GetUbuntu/download

Good choice Debian. I have had it running for years on several computers.

When SWMBOs copy of Windows XP refused to boot on her laptop  I stuck Ubuntu on it to allow her access her files. That was several months ago and she seems fairly happy with it but it isn't doesn't seem as stable as Debian  :-/ though to be fair the problem does seem to be a java/mozilla issue.
Title: Re: Linux recommendations
Post by: Gaffers on 07 March 2010, 21:48:42
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Try UBUNTU mate - good distro free download- Debian-derived Linux distro that focuses on usability :y

Get it here -> http://www.ubuntu.com/GetUbuntu/download

Good choice Debian. I have had it running for years on several computers.

When SWMBOs copy of Windows XP refused to boot on her laptop  I stuck Ubuntu on it to allow her access her files. That was several months ago and she seems fairly happy with it but it isn't doesn't seem as stable as Debian  :-/ though to be fair the problem does seem to be a java/mozilla issue.

How does the java/mozilla work on Debian?  It's quite important that it works for SWMBO
Title: Re: Linux recommendations
Post by: Kevin Wood on 07 March 2010, 23:02:57
I've used Debian for quite a while. I've had uptimes of getting on for 2 years on it too. Also been using Ubuntu Netbook Remix for a month or two. Both have been fine.

Debian is a good choice. Perhaps a little more thought required to configure it out-of-the-box and it doesn't generally contain "bleeding edge" code, generally more tried and tested, but slightly more mature versions of packages but it will reward you with good stability IME.

Ubuntu is better for a pure desktop machine IMHO. Just chuck it at a machne and 90% of your required functionality is there, working without a hitch. Debian is better suited to doing anything more serious, for a development machine or a server.

Always happy to lend a hand if you get stuck, BTW. :y

Kevin
Title: Re: Linux recommendations
Post by: Gaffers on 07 March 2010, 23:22:42
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I've used Debian for quite a while. I've had uptimes of getting on for 2 years on it too. Also been using Ubuntu Netbook Remix for a month or two. Both have been fine.

Debian is a good choice. Perhaps a little more thought required to configure it out-of-the-box and it doesn't generally contain "bleeding edge" code, generally more tried and tested, but slightly more mature versions of packages but it will reward you with good stability IME.

Ubuntu is better for a pure desktop machine IMHO. Just chuck it at a machne and 90% of your required functionality is there, working without a hitch. Debian is better suited to doing anything more serious, for a development machine or a server.

Always happy to lend a hand if you get stuck, BTW. :y

Kevin

Cheers, I might do that :y
Title: Re: Linux recommendations
Post by: CaptainZok on 07 March 2010, 23:31:31
What about backtrack, that's supposedly built for hacking/ pen testing etc and runs from a flash drive.
http://www.backtrack-linux.org/
Best of all it's free so you can have a play and see if it's any good for your needs.
Title: Re: Linux recommendations
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 08 March 2010, 00:14:51
Just set it downloading, nicesteady speed of 696/702 KB/Sec
Title: Re: Linux recommendations
Post by: eddie on 08 March 2010, 00:17:48
Try the Mint version of Ubuntu,has all the non-free stuff allready incorporated. access to all Ubuntu (Debian based) repo's and also some PPA's as well for bleeding edge updates.
It will also install DEB files from the Debian repo's.
All the popular Window Managers are available,Gnome,KDE, etc.
AND--its Free!

eddie
Title: Re: Linux recommendations
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 08 March 2010, 00:32:33
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Just set it downloading, nicesteady speed of 696/702 KB/Sec

Gotit now all I need is a program to burn the image with and a disk.    :-[ ;D ;D
Title: Re: Linux recommendations
Post by: TheBoy on 08 March 2010, 08:57:38
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I thought Linux was supposed to be free?
It is, depending on your definition of 'free' ;)

Redhat, for example, is hugely more expensive over a 5yr period than, say, Windows server. But its still 'free'

Only if you want updates and tech support from what I can see  :(
You are not allowed to use it without a support contract, which I think is around £150 a year, probably more if you buy a year at a time - but you do get free upgrades to new releases. Similar scheme to MS's Software Assurance (almost rental) scheme.
Title: Re: Linux recommendations
Post by: TheBoy on 08 March 2010, 09:14:26
For the desktop, the best 'free' (as in zero cost) general purpose ones if stability isn't a concern, the likes of Fedora (Redhat's testing platform), Ubuntu (overhyped, bit flakey, not really any support) are sensible choices.

Sticking with general purpose desktop, but a bit less amateur, and a whole heap more stable, you'd be hard pressed to beat Debian. Will be a few months behind the less stable options above, but that leads to better testing, and greater stability.  Debian makes a reasonable server as well, within the confines of the Linux kernel.

Then you are in the realms of the professional ones, 'free' but quite expensive. Redhat, SUSE EL, Oracle (basically a clone of Redhat, but with a search and replace on the copyright notices ;D), all more geared up for workstation and server use, which they do well (again within the limitations of the Linux kernel).


Then you get into the realms of 'proper' Unix, though many of these use non x86 hardware, although Sun do offer Solaris in an x86 version as well as Sparc.


All kernels are capable of long uptimes - I have plenty at work with 5+ yrs uptime (at OS level - hosted services been restarted frequently!) in Solaris, Linux and Windows.  And at the OS level, Windows does appear to be the most stable  :o

Title: Re: Linux recommendations
Post by: ChevetteNick on 08 March 2010, 17:45:36
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Gotit now all I need is a program to burn the image with and a disk.    :-[ ;D ;D
Use ImgBurn (http://www.imgburn.com/) for all your burning needs...when you get the discs ::)