Omega Owners Forum
Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: tunnie on 04 April 2010, 20:26:03
-
Asda fuel station, has kiosks you drive up to after filling up to pay, got to the station, closed! Damn bank holidays, only petrol pumps which had pay at pump >:(
Still even with LPG level resting on empty, i still managed to do 70 miles ;D Shows how accurate they are! So without tank full sill had a range of 343 miles 8-)
Tried BP for gas, pump there was tad faster than Total, and it released a lot less gas when disconnecting, hardly anything came out, compared to the clouds of gas from Total.
Trouble is, costs me £7.80 more to fill up there than Total which is just 10 miles down road. :o
-
Life's a Gas ;D ;D
-
£7.80, why not drive the 10 miles?
-
£7.80, why not drive the 10 miles?
Should have done, but it was running on gas vapours, it already beeped and clicked back to petrol, forced it back, knew it would not get much further. Last time i got 65L and it was refusing to switch to gas, got 66L in at BP.
Plus i just wanted to see if there was any difference in gas on release / pump speed.
I won't be using it again, unless i have to
-
Daft question time.
Untill you have a safty certificate should you actually be filling it with LPG and using it on the roads.
-
Daft question time.
Untill you have a safty certificate should you actually be filling it with LPG and using it on the roads.
Yeah its fine, you don't need it to drive, its just that some insurance companies ask.
Last LPG car i had, Direct Line did not mine, did not want to see anything!
-
Daft question time.
Untill you have a safty certificate should you actually be filling it with LPG and using it on the roads.
There is no legal reason why not - as long as his insurance company are aware of the conversion...
There is no insurance "standard" requirement for LPG certification, it varies between companies as far as I know.
-
£7.80, why not drive the 10 miles?
Should have done, but it was running on gas vapours, it already beeped and clicked back to petrol, forced it back, knew it would not get much further. Last time i got 65L and it was refusing to switch to gas, got 66L in at BP.
Plus i just wanted to see if there was any difference in gas on release / pump speed.
I won't be using it again, unless i have to
Ah I see :y
-
Daft question time.
Untill you have a safty certificate should you actually be filling it with LPG and using it on the roads.
Depends if he's declared it. I am with mine and my insurance company are fine :y
They only stipulated that it must be fitted by a competent person... I used to be a mechanic :y
-
Daft question time.
Untill you have a safty certificate should you actually be filling it with LPG and using it on the roads.
Depends if he's declared it. I am with mine and my insurance company are fine :y
They only stipulated that it must be fitted by a competent person... I used to be a mechanic :y
Not yet, was waiting to get the certificate first.
That reminds me, give Telio a nudge, i rang him last week saying i owe him money, said he would call back... that was Tuesday ::)
Sent off details to DVLA, was going to wait for that to go through and the ring up insurance and say its LPG, and its registered as such with DVLA. Last time they asked if it was done at a 'garage'
-
Daft question time.
Untill you have a safty certificate should you actually be filling it with LPG and using it on the roads.
Depends if he's declared it. I am with mine and my insurance company are fine :y
They only stipulated that it must be fitted by a competent person... I used to be a mechanic :y
Not yet, was waiting to get the certificate first.
That reminds me, give Telio a nudge, i rang him last week saying i owe him money, said he would call back... that was Tuesday ::)
Sent off details to DVLA, was going to wait for that to go through and the ring up insurance and say its LPG, and its registered as such with DVLA. Last time they asked if it was done at a 'garage'
It was.... ...... Yours ::) ::)
Teilo was pulling his hair out when I spoke to him on Thursday, trying to get stuff sorted for this weekend ;)
Reminds me... I must email him
-
Daft question time.
Untill you have a safty certificate should you actually be filling it with LPG and using it on the roads.
Depends if he's declared it. I am with mine and my insurance company are fine :y
They only stipulated that it must be fitted by a competent person... I used to be a mechanic :y
So if required by isurance company and not declared then they just wont pay out in the case of a claim. You know what they are like with small print. Same goes for other mods including wheels and different sized tyures, alot of compamies will refuse to pay out in the case of an accident as the car is classed as modified, same goes with SS exhausts and leather trim upgrades. pathetic really as they never pay the ammount the car is insured for.
But thanks for the understanding in a safety certificate, just wanted to know how people stood. :y
-
Basically it's a modification and must be declared as such. What the insurance company wants as proof is highly variable.
I actually spoke to mine and insisted they record the fact it's modified because there was no place to declare it when taking out the policy, just a list of acceptable modifications. They asked if it was fitted by a competent person... I said yes. They didn't ask for any more proof than that :y
-
Mine were quite happy that is was listed as dual fuel by DVLA... :)
-
Mine were quite happy that is was listed as dual fuel by DVLA... :)
What i am aiming for, makes it much more appealing to them that its listed on DVLA as such, so going to wait until i get V5 back, and then ring them up :)
-
Daft question time.
Untill you have a safty certificate should you actually be filling it with LPG and using it on the roads.
Depends if he's declared it. I am with mine and my insurance company are fine :y
They only stipulated that it must be fitted by a competent person... I used to be a mechanic :y
Lol, that does not guarantee compitence these days ;D :y :y
-
I see you are gassing on again tunnie! in the good way! i know very little regarding lpg and gas, other than some say it can harm the crown of the pistons, but i never have a car long enough to warrant the job myself. however, if a V8 is available for the UTE, you bet your last au$ Dollar i am going to put lpg conversion on the list!
-
Mine were quite happy that is was listed as dual fuel by DVLA... :)
What i am aiming for, makes it much more appealing to them that its listed on DVLA as such, so going to wait until i get V5 back, and then ring them up :)
What if, god forbid, something happens in the mean time?
-
I see you are gassing on again tunnie! in the good way! i know very little regarding lpg and gas, other than some say it can harm the crown of the pistons, but i never have a car long enough to warrant the job myself. however, if a V8 is available for the UTE, you bet your last au$ Dollar i am going to put lpg conversion on the list!
If poorly installed and setup (how many pro installs have we seen that dont meet that criteria sadly).....it could run weak....and harm the crowns of the pistons....but, if a proper job is done then all is good
-
Daft question time.
Untill you have a safty certificate should you actually be filling it with LPG and using it on the roads.
Depends if he's declared it. I am with mine and my insurance company are fine :y
They only stipulated that it must be fitted by a competent person... I used to be a mechanic :y
Lol, that does not guarantee compitence these days ;D :y :y
Indeed... I'm sure plenty of the "Approved Professionals" are far better qualified than me ::)
But you've seen the standard I worked to... I reckon any insurance inspector wouldn't look too closely ;)
-
I see you are gassing on again tunnie! in the good way! i know very little regarding lpg and gas, other than some say it can harm the crown of the pistons, but i never have a car long enough to warrant the job myself. however, if a V8 is available for the UTE, you bet your last au$ Dollar i am going to put lpg conversion on the list!
If poorly installed and setup (how many pro installs have we seen that dont meet that criteria sadly).....it could run weak....and harm the crowns of the pistons....but, if a proper job is done then all is good
Beat me to it! But more likely to damage valves/seats first IMO
-
I see you are gassing on again tunnie! in the good way! i know very little regarding lpg and gas, other than some say it can harm the crown of the pistons, but i never have a car long enough to warrant the job myself. however, if a V8 is available for the UTE, you bet your last au$ Dollar i am going to put lpg conversion on the list!
If poorly installed and setup (how many pro installs have we seen that dont meet that criteria sadly).....it could run weak....and harm the crowns of the pistons....but, if a proper job is done then all is good
Beat me to it! But more likely to damage valves/seats first IMO
Not so sure with these modern ultra hard valve seats etc......and sodium loaded exhaust valves
-
I see you are gassing on again tunnie! in the good way! i know very little regarding lpg and gas, other than some say it can harm the crown of the pistons, but i never have a car long enough to warrant the job myself. however, if a V8 is available for the UTE, you bet your last au$ Dollar i am going to put lpg conversion on the list!
If poorly installed and setup (how many pro installs have we seen that dont meet that criteria sadly).....it could run weak....and harm the crowns of the pistons....but, if a proper job is done then all is good
Beat me to it! But more likely to damage valves/seats first IMO
Not so sure with these modern ultra hard valve seats etc......and sodium loaded exhaust valves
All down to the engines I suppose... F*rd Zetec engines have seats softer than butter and have been known to recess to the point of not running within 20k on LPG :o :o
-
I see you are gassing on again tunnie! in the good way! i know very little regarding lpg and gas, other than some say it can harm the crown of the pistons, but i never have a car long enough to warrant the job myself. however, if a V8 is available for the UTE, you bet your last au$ Dollar i am going to put lpg conversion on the list!
If poorly installed and setup (how many pro installs have we seen that dont meet that criteria sadly).....it could run weak....and harm the crowns of the pistons....but, if a proper job is done then all is good
Beat me to it! But more likely to damage valves/seats first IMO
Not so sure with these modern ultra hard valve seats etc......and sodium loaded exhaust valves
All down to the engines I suppose... F*rd Zetec engines have seats softer than butter and have been known to recess to the point of not running within 20k on LPG :o :o
Fords have had valve trouble for as many years as I can remember!
Having said that, the Isuzu diesel inlets recess over about 80K miles.....but not to the extent that they are goosed thankfuly
-
I see you are gassing on again tunnie! in the good way! i know very little regarding lpg and gas, other than some say it can harm the crown of the pistons, but i never have a car long enough to warrant the job myself. however, if a V8 is available for the UTE, you bet your last au$ Dollar i am going to put lpg conversion on the list!
If poorly installed and setup (how many pro installs have we seen that dont meet that criteria sadly).....it could run weak....and harm the crowns of the pistons....but, if a proper job is done then all is good
Beat me to it! But more likely to damage valves/seats first IMO
Not so sure with these modern ultra hard valve seats etc......and sodium loaded exhaust valves
All down to the engines I suppose... F*rd Zetec engines have seats softer than butter and have been known to recess to the point of not running within 20k on LPG :o :o
Fords have had valve trouble for as many years as I can remember!
Having said that, the Isuzu diesel inlets recess over about 80K miles.....but not to the extent that they are goosed thankfuly
My Cavalier with the 1.7 Isuzu TD lump went to well over 320K and was still running... Just too smokey for the last MOT :(
And it really did take some stick ::) :-[
-
They are one of the ones that recessed....required the shims setting every 70-80K miels or they reached the point where they struggled to start when cold.
Other than that, they were a bullet proof engine.
I note that a lot of the modern diesels are going back to shims as the 20K oil changes are affecting the lifter lift
-
I see you are gassing on again tunnie! in the good way! i know very little regarding lpg and gas, other than some say it can harm the crown of the pistons, but i never have a car long enough to warrant the job myself. however, if a V8 is available for the UTE, you bet your last au$ Dollar i am going to put lpg conversion on the list!
If poorly installed and setup (how many pro installs have we seen that dont meet that criteria sadly).....it could run weak....and harm the crowns of the pistons....but, if a proper job is done then all is good
Beat me to it! But more likely to damage valves/seats first IMO
Not so sure with these modern ultra hard valve seats etc......and sodium loaded exhaust valves
All down to the engines I suppose... F*rd Zetec engines have seats softer than butter and have been known to recess to the point of not running within 20k on LPG :o :o
Thats what i was told.....fords need valve lube fitted....vx's dont.
I believe Entwood has valve lube fitted on his omega....but i dont think his omega really needs it.
-
I see you are gassing on again tunnie! in the good way! i know very little regarding lpg and gas, other than some say it can harm the crown of the pistons, but i never have a car long enough to warrant the job myself. however, if a V8 is available for the UTE, you bet your last au$ Dollar i am going to put lpg conversion on the list!
If poorly installed and setup (how many pro installs have we seen that dont meet that criteria sadly).....it could run weak....and harm the crowns of the pistons....but, if a proper job is done then all is good
Beat me to it! But more likely to damage valves/seats first IMO
Not so sure with these modern ultra hard valve seats etc......and sodium loaded exhaust valves
All down to the engines I suppose... F*rd Zetec engines have seats softer than butter and have been known to recess to the point of not running within 20k on LPG :o :o
Thats what i was told.....fords need valve lube fitted....vx's dont.
I believe Entwood has valve lube fitted on his omega....but i dont think his omega really needs it.
The Ford I was referring to had Valvelube fitted :o :o Although I'm not convinced the installation was all that good.
Entwood was given it as a freebie so uses it sparingly :y :y
-
Sounds about right TD.....I remember when unleaded fuel arrived.....Fords were a big no-no for conversion and even the ones that supposidly had hardened seats were suffering badly.
The Vx engines were close to 100% compatible from about 1980!
-
They are one of the ones that recessed....required the shims setting every 70-80K miels or they reached the point where they struggled to start when cold.
Other than that, they were a bullet proof engine.
I note that a lot of the modern diesels are going back to shims as the 20K oil changes are affecting the lifter lift
:-X :-X :-X :-X Never done in the 200K I ran it ::) ::)
20k oil changes frighten me on any engine TBH.
Then you hear of the stuff developed/under development over the pond in the US of A which is supposed to be a "Lifetime" Oil :o :o
Can't be good for the engine :-/
-
They are one of the ones that recessed....required the shims setting every 70-80K miels or they reached the point where they struggled to start when cold.
Other than that, they were a bullet proof engine.
I note that a lot of the modern diesels are going back to shims as the 20K oil changes are affecting the lifter lift
:-X :-X :-X :-X Never done in the 200K I ran it ::) ::)
20k oil changes frighten me on any engine TBH.
Then you hear of the stuff developed/under development over the pond in the US of A which is supposed to be a "Lifetime" Oil :o :o
Can't be good for the engine :-/
I totaly agree
Exhibit A has to be a certain AR25/35 gearbox......
-
All the research and advice on the LPG forums indicate that Vx engines .. well the V6 ones in Omegas.. do NOT need additional valve protection .. :)
As said .. on my fitment it was part and parcel of the deal, so I have it on but running at about 1/3 rd the recommended rate. On the grounds it is doing no harm and might, just, be doing a little good ... :)
-
All the research and advice on the LPG forums indicate that Vx engines .. well the V6 ones in Omegas.. do NOT need additional valve protection .. :)
As said .. on my fitment it was part and parcel of the deal, so I have it on but running at about 1/3 rd the recommended rate. On the grounds it is doing no harm and might, just, be doing a little good ... :)
Which means it will apply to at least all the large block engines ( the small I suspect will be the same also) as they share the same valves (Both size, design and part number) and head design :y
-
Sounds about right TD.....I remember when unleaded fuel arrived.....Fords were a big no-no for conversion and even the ones that supposidly had hardened seats were suffering badly.
The Vx engines were close to 100% compatible from about 1980!
Mind you, i remember my parents owning a vx caviler mk1 1.6 ..... i think.....they were told by vx it would be fine on unleaded.....6 months later it went to the vx dealer to have double valve seals fitted, as it started burning oil like a gud un.....done under warranty as well! ;)
-
Sounds about right TD.....I remember when unleaded fuel arrived.....Fords were a big no-no for conversion and even the ones that supposidly had hardened seats were suffering badly.
The Vx engines were close to 100% compatible from about 1980!
Mind you, i remember my parents owning a vx caviler mk1 1.6 ..... i think.....they were told by vx it would be fine on unleaded.....6 months later it went to the vx dealer to have double valve seals fitted, as it started burning oil like a gud un.....done under warranty as well! ;)
Lol, that wont be related to unleaded fuel though.....
-
20k oil change :o :o
I start to laugh even when my friends tell me they changed at 10K (kms)
I remember some time ago , the mechanic say its not nessary but if you want I can put that mobil 1 to my car (at 7.5 K kms again) ;D ;D ;D
when he saw the condition of oil :-? , I insisted use that oil for your car ;D ;D
nowadays I'm using maximum 5K (km) changes (not mobil 1)..short runs damage the oil very quickly :(
-
Mine were quite happy that is was listed as dual fuel by DVLA... :)
What i am aiming for, makes it much more appealing to them that its listed on DVLA as such, so going to wait until i get V5 back, and then ring them up :)
What if, god forbid, something happens in the mean time?
Reckon its worth ringing up now? :-/
-
Mine were quite happy that is was listed as dual fuel by DVLA... :)
What i am aiming for, makes it much more appealing to them that its listed on DVLA as such, so going to wait until i get V5 back, and then ring them up :)
What if, god forbid, something happens in the mean time?
Reckon its worth ringing up now? :-/
That's up to you... But you are currently driving around in a car with declared modifications.
Who are you insured with?
-
Mine were quite happy that is was listed as dual fuel by DVLA... :)
What i am aiming for, makes it much more appealing to them that its listed on DVLA as such, so going to wait until i get V5 back, and then ring them up :)
What if, god forbid, something happens in the mean time?
Reckon its worth ringing up now? :-/
That's up to you... But you are currently driving around in a car with declared modifications.
Who are you insured with?
Direct Line
-
Rang up, all sorted!