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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: tunnie on 05 April 2010, 20:39:13
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Tried Asda this time, after annoyance of them being closed i like their system. You just fill up and go straight away, no wondering off to do a weekly shop, someone just started putting derv in at the LPG pump i wanted, only waited minute or two.
Asda had the different style of pump (Gas Guard) to what i was used to:
(http://www.lpg-vehicles.co.uk/images/refuelling/gas-guard.jpg)
No clouds of gas on release and no smelly hands, and at 54p a litre its going to be my main watering hole.
Still doing 24mpg on gas no matter how i drive, but thats working out at 10p a mile compared to 18p on petrol, so on target for saving £10 a day.
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I reckon you used a 'hand' model for those photos.
They are far to clean to belng to a hard working person like yourself. LOL.
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I must admit I prefer those types of pumps to the "twisty" ones, but the French ones are still the best .... :)
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I reckon you used a 'hand' model for those photos.
They are far to clean to belng to a hard working person like yourself. LOL.
Stolen from here:
http://www.lpg-vehicles.co.uk/lpg_suppliers/filling-instructions.htm
:)
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thought they were too 'Girly' to be you.
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thought they were too 'Girly' to be you.
Oh those hands are much fatter than mine!
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thought they were too 'Girly' to be you.
Oh those hands are much fatter than mine!
They're nearly twice the size of yours! ::) ;D
Stop the obsession with MPG... Only look at ppmile :y :y
Reckon you're probably due a re-calibration and re-mapping now... Must be close to the 1000 mile mark ;)
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thought they were too 'Girly' to be you.
Oh those hands are much fatter than mine!
They're nearly twice the size of yours! ::) ;D
Stop the obsession with MPG... Only look at ppmile :y :y
Reckon you're probably due a re-calibration and re-mapping now... Must be close to the 1000 mile mark ;)
Nearing 700 miles i would guess since, so after this weekend will do. Can you get Telio to send me a diag lead? (Unless does TB have one?)
Also whats involved? Just same as saw before? Got software installed on my work lappy....
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thought they were too 'Girly' to be you.
Oh those hands are much fatter than mine!
They're nearly twice the size of yours! ::) ;D
Stop the obsession with MPG... Only look at ppmile :y :y
Reckon you're probably due a re-calibration and re-mapping now... Must be close to the 1000 mile mark ;)
Nearing 700 miles i would guess since, so after this weekend will do. Can you get Telio to send me a diag lead? (Unless does TB have one?)
Also whats involved? Just same as saw before? Got software installed on my work lappy....
Sweet talk TB into jumping in the passenger seat and working the lappy... It's a PITA doing it on your own :y :y
I think his lead is in the boot of the Bullet :-/ :-/
Alternatively... Hang on a little longer and it can be checked when TB's re-installation happens as I think he's planning to do it at home this time ;)
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thought they were too 'Girly' to be you.
Oh those hands are much fatter than mine!
They're nearly twice the size of yours! ::) ;D
Stop the obsession with MPG... Only look at ppmile :y :y
Reckon you're probably due a re-calibration and re-mapping now... Must be close to the 1000 mile mark ;)
Nearing 700 miles i would guess since, so after this weekend will do. Can you get Telio to send me a diag lead? (Unless does TB have one?)
Also whats involved? Just same as saw before? Got software installed on my work lappy....
Sweet talk TB into jumping in the passenger seat and working the lappy... It's a PITA doing it on your own :y :y
I think his lead is in the boot of the Bullet :-/ :-/
Alternatively... Hang on a little longer and it can be checked when TB's re-installation happens as I think he's planning to do it at home this time ;)
I hear Silver bullet maybe back soon, am about Sunday can do the calibration then, its running sweet though.
Although when i boot it, can be a bit jerky changing 4k rpm + foot off, too quickly and it tend to really 'jump/jerk' i have to be smoother with the pedals ::)
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thought they were too 'Girly' to be you.
Oh those hands are much fatter than mine!
They're nearly twice the size of yours! ::) ;D
Stop the obsession with MPG... Only look at ppmile :y :y
Reckon you're probably due a re-calibration and re-mapping now... Must be close to the 1000 mile mark ;)
Nearing 700 miles i would guess since, so after this weekend will do. Can you get Telio to send me a diag lead? (Unless does TB have one?)
Also whats involved? Just same as saw before? Got software installed on my work lappy....
Sweet talk TB into jumping in the passenger seat and working the lappy... It's a PITA doing it on your own :y :y
I think his lead is in the boot of the Bullet :-/ :-/
Alternatively... Hang on a little longer and it can be checked when TB's re-installation happens as I think he's planning to do it at home this time ;)
I hear Silver bullet maybe back soon, am about Sunday can do the calibration then, its running sweet though.
Although when i boot it, can be a bit jerky changing 4k rpm + foot off, too quickly and it tend to really 'jump/jerk' i have to be smoother with the pedals ::)
that could be shitty vapouriser :-/
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Although when i boot it, can be a bit jerky changing 4k rpm + foot off, too quickly and it tend to really 'jump/jerk' i have to be smoother with the pedals ::)
Sounds exactly like the issue we have with the V6s to me.
Kevin
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Although when i boot it, can be a bit jerky changing 4k rpm + foot off, too quickly and it tend to really 'jump/jerk' i have to be smoother with the pedals ::)
Sounds exactly like the issue we have with the V6s to me.
Kevin
Its almost has if it looses power/fuel for a split second, but if i am smoother releasing the clutch and smoother on/off with the power (ie much slower change) its fine
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Its almost has if it looses power/fuel for a split second, but if i am smoother releasing the clutch and smoother on/off with the power (ie much slower change) its fine
Yep. Exactly the same issue. Hesitates a little if you come off the power quickly and a gear change at full chat makes it bog down. Feathering the throttle as it changes (auto) gives you a smooth change.
Kevin
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Its almost has if it looses power/fuel for a split second, but if i am smoother releasing the clutch and smoother on/off with the power (ie much slower change) its fine
Yep. Exactly the same issue. Hesitates a little if you come off the power quickly and a gear change at full chat makes it bog down. Feathering the throttle as it changes (auto) gives you a smooth change.
Kevin
I'll give that a go :)
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I'll give that a go :)
But yours is a manual. :-/
Kevin
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I'll give that a go :)
But yours is a manual. :-/
Kevin
But he also has a vaporiser which is operating right at the limits :-/
Reckon it may well clear up after another Autocal/mapping session... Don't forget, things will need bed in over the first 1000 miles or so :y
Reckon the pressure will probably have dropped by about 0.2 BAR by now... Mine did ;)
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I'll give that a go :)
But yours is a manual. :-/
Kevin
But he also has a vaporiser which is operating right at the limits :-/
I mean trying to blip/feather throttle during change, rather than comming off power so abruptly.
Maybe worth trying V6 vaporiser on 4pot?
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I'll give that a go :)
But yours is a manual. :-/
Kevin
But he also has a vaporiser which is operating right at the limits :-/
I mean trying to blip/feather throttle during change, rather than comming off power so abruptly.
Maybe worth trying V6 vaporiser on 4pot?
Why? It was running fine when we mapped it... Things have just stretched and bedded in... Re-mapping will probably cure it :y
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I'll give that a go :)
But yours is a manual. :-/
Kevin
But he also has a vaporiser which is operating right at the limits :-/
I mean trying to blip/feather throttle during change, rather than comming off power so abruptly.
Maybe worth trying V6 vaporiser on 4pot?
Why? It was running fine when we mapped it... Things have just stretched and bedded in... Re-mapping will probably cure it :y
Sounds good to me :y
Thoughts to using V6 Vaporiser is that would not be at its limits connected to a 4pot...
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I'll give that a go :)
But yours is a manual. :-/
Kevin
But he also has a vaporiser which is operating right at the limits :-/
I mean trying to blip/feather throttle during change, rather than comming off power so abruptly.
Maybe worth trying V6 vaporiser on 4pot?
Why? It was running fine when we mapped it... Things have just stretched and bedded in... Re-mapping will probably cure it :y
Sounds good to me :y
Thoughts to using V6 Vaporiser is that would not be at its limits connected to a 4pot...
The issue wasn't there when I left 10 Days ago... Therefore it's something which has happened since ;) It'll be where the diaphragm in the vaporiser has stretched a little and settled down :y
Like I said, TB was saying he'd prefer to re-connect all the LPG stuff at home this time (especially as KW's garage is likely to be full of broken Westfield now) so when it's done, your's can have a 1000(ish) mile check up :y :y
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I'll give that a go :)
But yours is a manual. :-/
Kevin
But he also has a vaporiser which is operating right at the limits :-/
I mean trying to blip/feather throttle during change, rather than comming off power so abruptly.
Maybe worth trying V6 vaporiser on 4pot?
Why? It was running fine when we mapped it... Things have just stretched and bedded in... Re-mapping will probably cure it :y
Sounds good to me :y
Thoughts to using V6 Vaporiser is that would not be at its limits connected to a 4pot...
Not just a straight swap... You have different sensors and connections in the wrong places for a "quick" swap ;)
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let me know when you plan to finish LPG on silver bullet, my garage can be available :)
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let me know when you plan to finish LPG on silver bullet, my garage can be available :)
Not sure if it'll be me, Kevin (must stop putting KW now we have a member using that name ::)), Chris or a combination of... Depends on a few things, like whether if fits my time off and Mrs LD's plans ::) Although she'd probably be happy to come over and play craft stuff with Mrs TB (if I think I can afford it ::)) ;D ;D
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Maybe worth trying V6 vaporiser on 4pot?
I wouldn't be too hasty to junk it. Have another tweak with the mapping.
If you do suspect the vapouriser is not up to it, watch the vapour pressure and lambda sensors during a hard acceleration run. (You can do a limited datalog with the LPG software).
It's normal for the V6s to drop about 0.2 bar of vapour pressure on full load, full revs. Lambda sensors should be indicating rich.
If that's OK, the vapouriser is fine. Even if it's not, how often do you drive it flat out anyway sorry. Remembered that it's a 4 pot frequently used to recover other vehicles. ;)
Kevin
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Maybe worth trying V6 vaporiser on 4pot?
I wouldn't be too hasty to junk it. Have another tweak with the mapping.
If you do suspect the vapouriser is not up to it, watch the vapour pressure and lambda sensors during a hard acceleration run. (You can do a limited datalog with the LPG software).
It's normal for the V6s to drop about 0.2 bar of vapour pressure on full load, full revs. Lambda sensors should be indicating rich.
If that's OK, the vapouriser is fine. Even if it's not, how often do you drive it flat out anyway sorry. Remembered that it's a 4 pot frequently used to recover other vehicles. ;)
Kevin
When we mapped it there was a switch back error at high RPM, full throttle (that took some egging on ;D) a couple of times but we found a good compromise where it wouldn't do it. :y
I suspect that the problem is just that the pressure has dropped now things have bedded in. Remember how much mine had dropped by when we had to calibrate it at yours? I couldn't even auto calibrate it because the pressure had dropped so low. :o Think that was about 1k after fitting :y
For general use it appears to be adequate, although much more pressure sensitive than mine is
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If it's not going lean at full throttle it might be a good idea to back off the minimum vapour pressure a little to avoid it switching to petrol?
Kevin
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If it's not going lean at full throttle it might be a good idea to back off the minimum vapour pressure a little to avoid it switching to petrol?
Kevin
Yeah... Just had a quick set up as I was wanting to get home and I know it'll need doing again within a month or so :y
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on a little outing to the scrappy today it proved fine, booting up to 5k, was fine! Maybe it likes warm weather 8-)
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on a little outing to the scrappy today it proved fine, booting up to 5k, was fine! Maybe it likes warm weather 8-)
Was TB driving? ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D
I assume when it was playing up the car was fully warmed up?
Perhaps level may be having some effect :-/
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on a little outing to the scrappy today it proved fine, booting up to 5k, was fine! Maybe it likes warm weather 8-)
Was TB driving? ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D
I assume when it was playing up the car was fully warmed up?
Perhaps level may be having some effect :-/
Yeah full ish tank, will boot it again on a low tank. Shock horror i was driving! ;D