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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Nickbat on 14 April 2010, 23:56:47
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I know some on here will not be voting because they think it's a "waste of time", as all the main parties are the same.
I came across this tonight and it perfectly sums up, in my opinion, why you should vote - even if you feel this way.
All I see from the three main parties is 'Don't vote for them, they will make your life hell'. Well, main parties, I smoke, I drink, I like salt, I like to take photos in the street, I don't want to be ruled from Brussels, I don't like paying tax in advance, I don't like having my business regulated into the ground, I don't like having to be extra-careful about every little move at the end of every month because the police are short of arrests for the month, I don't like reading again and again that the police have arrested a real criminal and the CPS decide not to prosecute because they are Approved Righteous Pets (unless they were caught defending themselves against a criminal), and where they do prosecute, the courts just pat them on the head and send them home (unless they were caught defending themselves against a criminal).
So I won't vote for any of you.
If you're not going to vote because it's pointless and the safe-seat holder will win anyway, think again. Turnout at elections is desperately low because many people think this way. If only five people vote, they decide who wins. That's how it works. If you don't vote then you are entirely at the mercy of those five people. Around sixty percent of people don't vote - imagine if they all turned out to vote for small parties and independents. Those main parties wouldn't get a look in.
http://underdogsbiteupwards.blogspot.com/2010/04/be-change.html
Me? This campaign slogan (link below) sums up my feelings perfectly. But, for you, if you weren't going to vote, think again about what is written above and choose according to your views. No vote is wasted.
http://www.westbournemouthukip.com/content/images/sod-the-lot-vote-ukip.png
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Oh, and if you're into whisky, the same blogger has a good article here:
http://underdogsbiteupwards.blogspot.com/2010/04/whisky-personal-preference.html
I love the blogosphere! :y
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or put simply -
"if you don't vote, don't bitch" Steve Earle
;) ;)
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i wont be voting... and i shall still "bitch" i think the entire government is naff, all the parties are the same, all talk but no go...
that is why i dont vote... i dont want any of them in power, and that is why i "bitch" because i dont like any of them or what the country has become. :-X
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quite right nickbat!!It might be very true that the vast majority of people dont vote for a range of reasons and probably see all the parties as being useless/corrupt etc but if we dont use are votes nothing will change! Of course it is difficult, not least because on a lot of issues (eg economic policy) it is so hard to get any sort of impartial advice to make an informed decision. I ve been reading Andrew Marrs "making of modern Britain" and ,along with "who runs britain", it shows just how complicated things can get. Marr's book is good in as much that it shows just how much our current problems are linked to the past and decisions made by both Labour and Tory parties from the late 60s on. But we all surely believe in certain values and much of this can help you decide on a party. It often seems to me that many parties dont seem in touch with how a lot of people feel , especially on issues that to the PC are tricky like immigration etc. It isnt helped by the press on both sides throwing up examples of waste and corruption either. Another consideration is that all the things we may want cost money and the reality is that this country aint got it so new policies will result in hikes in tax or VAT (there may be massive waste of money throughout gvt spending but I cant see the drastic remanagement of these happening anytime soon). Take a global look and pure greed is at the heart of a lot of our problems, how can it not when our monetary systems allows 40% of the world's wealth to be owned by 1% of its population. The average wage in this country is said to be 26K so there are still a very few owning an awful lot and too many of them arent using it to invest iin this country but putting it abroad in private bank accounts. Re-distribution of wealth would be nice!The Venus Project is a lovely hippy ideal but it wont work because the "men behind the curtain" dont want money for money's sake , they want what it can buy and that is power. There will always be people like that, there will always be the weak and the strong, its human nature. Part of any gvt's job however is to try and protect the majority (it should be them who vote for them after all) and to close down the loopholes and clamp down on the corruption. No party is going to tick all your boxes, just try and choose one that ticks most of them for you. Not to vote is to let them continue as they are and we all know what that means. "hung parliaments" and coalitions have worked well during times of war as everyone has one major focus, outside of that the oneupmanship tends to stall initiatives but it is an option. "power to the people!"as wolfie smith would say :y
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i wont be voting... and i shall still "bitch" i think the entire government is naff, all the parties are the same, all talk but no go...
that is why i dont vote... i dont want any of them in power, and that is why i "bitch" because i dont like any of them or what the country has become. :-X
if you dont vote, you have every right to bitch, its a 'free' country, but you are forgetting the thousands who have given blood sweat and tears, even lives, over hundreds of years all over the world to defend peoples right to vote and have a fair say and freedom to speach. if you dont like voting perhaps you should move to china and see how far you get bitching there.
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im not forgetting anyone mate. i never said i had no respect for any of that, nor did a mention anything about the government back then... im on about today... where everything is a health risk, everything is taxed...
i have the up most respect for those who have fought/died for this country for our freedom... i have no respect for a government trying to take it away again...
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Not voting is a cop out! There is unlikely to ever be a "one size fits all" political party as we all expect different things... That's just the way of life and is witnessed all around us!
But if you can't be bothered to do the research and find a party/minister who can fulfil some of your requirements and compromise on some others then you are disrespecting the people who fought for your freedom and right to vote..... Simple as that.
I, for one, will do the research and decide from there which way to vote. Of course, you actually vote for more than one person on the ballot form so you should be able to meet most of your expectations somewhere along the line :y
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the way i see it by not voting you have no right in voicing your opinions on the new govt, as a no vote means i dont give a toss. thats what i think anyway.
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the way i see it by not voting you have no right in voicing your opinions on the new govt, as a no vote means i dont give a toss. thats what i think anyway.
And!!!!!! these home made sausages i bought from the meat fair today are absolutely delicious :)
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the way i see it by not voting you have no right in voicing your opinions on the new govt, as a no vote means i dont give a toss. thats what i think anyway.
a no vote means a no vote... if i didnt give a toss i would have been long gone ages ago tbh
and saying i have no right to voice my opinions on the new government because i didnt vote makes u no different than the government... trying to tell everyone what they can and cannot say... what they can and cannot wear... what they can and cannot eat and so on and so on.
surely u can see what im getting at here... freedom? hardly...
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You do all realise that there can be no end or indeed agreement on this thread. It's a subjective discussion, full stop.
Speaking as someone who has lost family in both WW and has a Son serving in Afghan I would encourage all to vote - if you don't then thats upto you. However, I'd even urge a spoilt paper or voting green as a protest rather than no action at all.
All in MHO of course ...........
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i've never understood why the turnout isn't in the high nineties to be honest - maybe some of us need a history lesson?
sorry if that sounds patronising.......diddums :y