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Title: Leaders Debate
Post by: Banjax on 15 April 2010, 20:16:35
830pm ITV - sadly, I'm really, really looking forward to it - of course it'll probably turn out to be so constrained and dull i'll be asleep before the end - but what if one of them truly truly drops a monumental clanger? wouldn't you like to be watching?  ;D
Title: Re: Leaders Debate
Post by: Richie London on 15 April 2010, 20:19:14
so am i, cant wait to listen to there bull and slag each other off.
Title: Re: Leaders Debate
Post by: Proz on 15 April 2010, 20:29:04
Im watching but i think it will be a lot of sh**e ....  :-/
Title: Re: Leaders Debate
Post by: Richie London on 15 April 2010, 20:36:23
everytime i see brown talk i wanna throw something at the screen.
Title: Re: Leaders Debate
Post by: Banjax on 15 April 2010, 21:21:45
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everytime i see brown talk i wanna throw something at the screen.

red rose petals?  ::)
Title: Re: Leaders Debate
Post by: tunnie on 15 April 2010, 21:28:18
what moron thought Alastair Stewart would be a good host!  >:(
Title: Re: Leaders Debate
Post by: Banjax on 15 April 2010, 21:29:53
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what moron thought Alastair Stewart would be a good host!  >:(

well, he is an expert on car crash telly  ::) ;D

i'll get my coat
 
Title: Re: Leaders Debate
Post by: Bo Bo on 15 April 2010, 22:21:36
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what moron thought Alastair Stewart would be a good host!  >:(
I agree, he was awful!
Title: Re: Leaders Debate
Post by: Richie London on 15 April 2010, 22:26:15
carefully selected questions 1 from each category
Title: Re: Leaders Debate
Post by: Banjax on 16 April 2010, 08:26:18
why did cameron ever want this? he was a mile ahead in the polls when he threw down the gauntlet - bet he regrets it know, it looks like boosting the libdems  :o

Brown - please, whoever's giving you your rank rotten quips just hit him - you can't tell a joke - you can't even retell a personal story and make it sound convincing  ;D

Cameron - looked terrified at the start then settled into it - not as good as his party would've hoped

Clegg - easily the best - looked calm, confident honest....still wont get in tho, although all they need is a hung parliament so they may well get it now  ;)
Title: Re: Leaders Debate
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 16 April 2010, 08:47:31
Very naff, far to staged......
Title: Re: Leaders Debate
Post by: I_want_an_Omega on 16 April 2010, 08:48:49
Agreed, Cleggy has the benefit of no baggage, i.e. not having a record of previous inaction to justify.

I am worried about the Trident issue with the LD's though. I'm not sure we actually need it - how about keeping it going for another 20 years instead until things have settled down somewhat and then decide.
Title: Re: Leaders Debate
Post by: Kevin Wood on 16 April 2010, 09:23:11
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Clegg - easily the best - looked calm, confident honest....still wont get in tho, although all they need is a hung parliament so they may well get it now

A bit too much so, IMHO. A bit too reminiscent of Tory.B.Liar's level of smarm for comfort.

Kevin
Title: Re: Leaders Debate
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 16 April 2010, 10:02:10
With Gordon Brown agreeing so much with Nick Clegg why would you vote for Labour? ::) ::) :D :D :D

Nick Clegg certainly had a good 'moment' in politics, but of course this is just the beginning of the campaign.  If the Election was today then I think the results for the Lib Dems would be very interesting indeed.  However it is not, and Cameron has time to further the Conservatives policies. ;) ;)
Title: Re: Leaders Debate
Post by: Varche on 16 April 2010, 10:08:04
Lib dems it is then.!! The great British public won't be swayed by written documents, track records etc but by a series of three very stilted TV "debates".

As for Trident. Does Britain actually need its own nuclear deterrent? Let the EU do it and pay for it. If it does and it is a big IF then why not keep the existing one. Hide them somewhere rather than wear them out uselessly patrolling the oceans and pocket the £100 billion saved (sorry £200 billion as the estimates are always way under actual outurn.
Title: Re: Leaders Debate
Post by: tunnie on 16 April 2010, 10:10:27
the Lib Dems suggested the Trident money would go into better equipment for front line troops. Hope they would invest it in the armed forces / navy for a possible Falkland Islands II  ::)

Cause it was our Subs which proved vital then too
Title: Re: Leaders Debate
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 16 April 2010, 10:12:33
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the Lib Dems suggested the Trident money would go into better equipment for front line troops. Hope they would invest it in the armed forces / navy for a possible Falkland Islands II  ::)

Cause it was our Subs which proved vital then too

Which they would buy from abroad so better to keep ploughing it ino trident then!
Title: Re: Leaders Debate
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 16 April 2010, 10:22:33
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Lib dems it is then.!! The great British public won't be swayed by written documents, track records etc but by a series of three very stilted TV "debates".

As for Trident. Does Britain actually need its own nuclear deterrent? Let the EU do it and pay for it. If it does and it is a big IF then why not keep the existing one. Hide them somewhere rather than wear them out uselessly patrolling the oceans and pocket the £100 billion saved (sorry £200 billion as the estimates are always way under actual outurn.


European history I think has proved that Britain cannot rely on Europe providing security for itself, let alone the  British nation! ::) ::)

Britain should keep it's powder dry and in stock to meet all eventualities, and if we were to give up our independent nuclear deterent, it must only be after the rest of the world has.  The British nation has only survived by way of the strength of our military, and especially the senior service, the Royal Navy with always the capability to take on other nations.  95% of our goods still come in by sea, and never should we be in a position of not being able to protect these supplies or being blackmailed by a nuclear power when (heaven forbid) we have not got that capability.  We must never be seen as 'weak'. ;) ;)
Title: Re: Leaders Debate
Post by: Varche on 16 April 2010, 11:30:31
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Lib dems it is then.!! The great British public won't be swayed by written documents, track records etc but by a series of three very stilted TV "debates".

As for Trident. Does Britain actually need its own nuclear deterrent? Let the EU do it and pay for it. If it does and it is a big IF then why not keep the existing one. Hide them somewhere rather than wear them out uselessly patrolling the oceans and pocket the £100 billion saved (sorry £200 billion as the estimates are always way under actual outurn.


European history I think has proved that Britain cannot rely on Europe providing security for itself, let alone the  British nation! ::) ::)

Britain should keep it's powder dry and in stock to meet all eventualities, and if we were to give up our independent nuclear deterent, it must only be after the rest of the world has.  The British nation has only survived by way of the strength of our military, and especially the senior service, the Royal Navy with always the capability to take on other nations.  95% of our goods still come in by sea, and never should we be in a position of not being able to protect these supplies or being blackmailed by a nuclear power when (heaven forbid) we have not got that capability.  We must never be seen as 'weak'. ;) ;)

I think in this modern age we can move on from history. Slave trade, Imperialism, nazism , Boer war etc all history and should be consigned to the bin as such. We have the UN, our special friends in the US and of course the Uk is part of the EU. Let the EU provide a credible defence force paid for in equal part by its member constituents to defend the EU.

Long gone are the days when little Britain can afford to pretend to be a superpower even though we get involved in wars all over the globe at the drop of a hat. You don't see the Germans doing that. They have survived despite "losing", in fact arguably they are stronger than ever. Time has moved on.