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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: tunnie on 23 April 2010, 20:19:34
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Anyone done it?
Got some ramps and blocks of wood that i can use to get a bike into a transit, but unsure how to strap it down. Saw picture of one being strapped at at an angle off handle bars, but with flat floor in Transit now sure how that would work.
Another idea is to put protect bike and put padding down on the floor and let it go onto its side on purpose, then strap it down :-/
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Never done this but, some Transit have hooks on the floor maybe the straps could be attached to these?
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Never done this but, some Transit have hooks on the floor maybe the straps could be attached to these?
Yeah, thing is can't see a centre stand being secure enough, maybe with straps it would be :-/
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Never done this but, some Transit have hooks on the floor maybe the straps could be attached to these?
Yeah, thing is can't see a centre stand being secure enough, maybe with straps it would be :-/
Not too sure really, can't you put some strong stuff against the side panels of the van to try and assist in the bike not falling over? Obviously something soft so it doesn't damage paint work but thick and strong enough to hold a bike up :-/
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what about using ratchet straps to the side?
(http://shop.adcyclerepairs.co.uk/WebRoot/Store/Shops/es132738/4B40/F5CC/0065/9621/87F8/0A0F/1115/00D2/S1051458.JPG)
I know its a push bike but similar principle :y
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Never done this but, some Transit have hooks on the floor maybe the straps could be attached to these?
Yeah, thing is can't see a centre stand being secure enough, maybe with straps it would be :-/
Not too sure really, can't you put some strong stuff against the side panels of the van to try and assist in the bike not falling over? Obviously something soft so it doesn't damage paint work but thick and strong enough to hold a bike up :-/
Could do that. unsure what i could use :-/
Transit also is not exactly going to give smoothest ride, wonder if transporting it on its side would be best, or against one side of the van :-/
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Anyone done it?
Got some ramps and blocks of wood that i can use to get a bike into a transit, but unsure how to strap it down. Saw picture of one being strapped at at an angle off handle bars, but with flat floor in Transit now sure how that would work.
Another idea is to put protect bike and put padding down on the floor and let it go onto its side on purpose, then strap it down :-/
I've tied a few women down in the back of vans of various sizes, but never a motorcycle. I never used the same van twice, as I had to burn each one after.........OOOOOPS ;D
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Anyone done it?
Got some ramps and blocks of wood that i can use to get a bike into a transit, but unsure how to strap it down. Saw picture of one being strapped at at an angle off handle bars, but with flat floor in Transit now sure how that would work.
Another idea is to put protect bike and put padding down on the floor and let it go onto its side on purpose, then strap it down :-/
I've tied a few women down in the back of vans of various sizes, but never a motorcycle. I never used the same van twice, as I had to burn each one after.........OOOOOPS ;D
I'm not suprised you've had to you ugly get ;D
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Anyone done it?
Got some ramps and blocks of wood that i can use to get a bike into a transit, but unsure how to strap it down. Saw picture of one being strapped at at an angle off handle bars, but with flat floor in Transit now sure how that would work.
Another idea is to put protect bike and put padding down on the floor and let it go onto its side on purpose, then strap it down :-/
I've tied a few women down in the back of vans of various sizes, but never a motorcycle. I never used the same van twice, as I had to burn each one after.........OOOOOPS ;D
I'm not suprised you've had to you ugly get ;D
Dont be so fat :P ;D
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Anyone done it?
Got some ramps and blocks of wood that i can use to get a bike into a transit, but unsure how to strap it down. Saw picture of one being strapped at at an angle off handle bars, but with flat floor in Transit now sure how that would work.
Another idea is to put protect bike and put padding down on the floor and let it go onto its side on purpose, then strap it down :-/
I've tied a few women down in the back of vans of various sizes, but never a motorcycle. I never used the same van twice, as I had to burn each one after.........OOOOOPS ;D
I'm not suprised you've had to you ugly get ;D
Dont be so fat :P ;D
Takes a big hammer to knock a big nail in :P ;D
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Anyone done it?
Got some ramps and blocks of wood that i can use to get a bike into a transit, but unsure how to strap it down. Saw picture of one being strapped at at an angle off handle bars, but with flat floor in Transit now sure how that would work.
Another idea is to put protect bike and put padding down on the floor and let it go onto its side on purpose, then strap it down :-/
I've tied a few women down in the back of vans of various sizes, but never a motorcycle. I never used the same van twice, as I had to burn each one after.........OOOOOPS ;D
I'm not suprised you've had to you ugly get ;D
Dont be so fat :P ;D
Takes a big hammer to knock a big nail in :P ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D
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This is the Transit to be used (when it passes it's MOT), it's a SWB semi high roof.
It does indeed have anchor points, the photo's I took earlier were for a deifferent reason, so they can't really be seen in the rear clearly...but they are there.
(http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv110/joshwyatt/P1010314.jpg)
(http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv110/joshwyatt/P1010311.jpg)
(http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv110/joshwyatt/P1010310.jpg)
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Might it be best to consider making a temporary support-structure using 100mm x 50mm rough-sawn timber, lined with old carpet where it touches the wheels/tank/chassis and attaching the wooden frame to the van`s side/floor boarding with screws?
...wouldn`t be too much cost or work and would mean you`d be able to drive in a normal manner without having to hear your bike being destroyed at every roundabout. :y
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Might it be best to consider making a temporary support-structure using 100mm x 50mm rough-sawn timber, lined with old carpet where it touches the wheels/tank/chassis and attaching the wooden frame to the van`s side/floor boarding with screws?
...wouldn`t be too much cost or work and would mean you`d be able to drive in a normal manner without having to hear your bike being destroyed at every roundabout. :y
Have you ever been strapped to the floor Debs? Just making conversation, you understand......
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Put it on the side stand and strap from handle bars to the floor either side and from the grab rail to the floor either side. If you have enough straps run one over the seat as well. Put the steering lock on to stop the front wheel moving.
I've done this a few times without mishap :y However you follow this guide completly at your own risk etc etc etc :D ;D :D ;D
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Tunnie, cable tie the front brake lever to the handle bar once you've got it strapped down ;)
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Just put the bike in and spray it with expanding foam until the van is full. :y
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Just put the bike in and spray it with expanding foam until the van is full. :y
or get some of this
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_from=R40&_trksid=p4033.m570.l1313&_nkw=bubble+wrap&_sacat=See-All-Categories
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Tunnie, cable tie the front brake lever to the handle bar once you've got it strapped down ;)
Cable ties is something i have ;D
See your point, acts as a hand break :)
I do have a number of straps, not sure if they are man enough though :(
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Misc/DSC00726.JPG)
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Tunnie, cable tie the front brake lever to the handle bar once you've got it strapped down ;)
Cable ties is something i have ;D
See your point, acts as a hand break :)
I do have a number of straps, not sure if they are man enough though :(
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Misc/DSC00726.JPG)
You can get ratchet straps of a similar width belt. :y
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Depends on the bike Tunnie.... If its a big Harley I'd say not!! ;D ;D ;D
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Depends on the bike Tunnie.... If its a big Harley I'd say not!! ;D ;D ;D
Another BMW, most likely R1150 RT
Tunnie, cable tie the front brake lever to the handle bar once you've got it strapped down ;)
Cable ties is something i have ;D
See your point, acts as a hand break :)
I do have a number of straps, not sure if they are man enough though :(
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Misc/DSC00726.JPG)
You can get ratchet straps of a similar width belt. :y
Ratchet ones would be better, these ones are a bit micky mouse tesco value ones ;D
That said, it appears auction delivery costs are very competitive, to the point being cheaper than Transit
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Yes, I'd get some ratchets. Then you can tension them nicely, so that the opposite straps are pulling against each other and holding the bike in place. ;)
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cheers :y
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Is one not enought then?
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Might have missed something, is this a one off or going to be regular?
One off, dong forget to secure the wheels at ground level so that they can not move sideways.
If for more regular use, fabricate something to put on the bulkhead behind the seats that you can put the front wheel into, like you may see for parking push bikes, minimal strapping will then be needed. My brother has a frame that fits in his van like this and he regularly transports bikes in this way... :y
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I have moved a bike in the back of a van before - and the best way we found is to get hold of an old mattress and lay it on that then some foam if you can get hold of some and a couple of rachet straps to hold it in place (Foam under where the straps hold the bike) one thing to bear in mind is get it as low down as you can because if you have some kind of acccident then the bike will keep on going if it's in the upright position in the back, so get it against the headboard too :y
And make sure the lashing points on the floor are bolted through the metal floor and not just screwed to the liner :)
Good luck with it if you decide your going to do it :)
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drive it up the ramp on tickover. Park it against the bulk head let the clutch out and stall the bike against bulk head. Leavi gear. Leave bike on side stand.
Strap bike loosely ,on stand side first, from a frame rail or something solid, not foot peg or subframe idealy, handel bar if nothing else available, to tie down point on floor. Make sure tie down is pointing in the strap direction or it will bend and the bike will work loose.
Then do non stand side and use the strap to pull the bike upright, do not strap onto a stand or it may bend, you need to compress the suspension onto the tyres, stand may go through the floor.
Tighten down evenly side to side until solid. If sitting in the bike loosens the straps its not tight enough.
Tie the brake lever as said. Turn off ignition and petrol tap if it has one.
All this assumes you dont have a slow puncture.
But those straps aint man enough, you need ratchet straps. Halfords do them.
May need to wrap frame rail or bike tie down point with a rag incase the strap marks.
When loading make sure the drive at the rear wheel doesn't push the ramp out when the front wheel is on the van, and that the belly doesn't catch on the top of the ramp.
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Loadsa choice on eb
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html?_trkparms=65%253A12%257C66%253A4%257C39%253A1%257C72%253A2471&_nkw=ratchet+straps&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_sop=15&_sc=1
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Doesn't Costco still have some. I noticed some ages back, different sizes in a bubble pack.
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check van is high enough, mind your head. ;D :y
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All is assuming i can get it in the van ;D
That said their delivery costs are much cheaper than i thought, just £17 for a car, so even if a bike is the same or more, its going to be cheaper, as day insurance for me on a Transit is £20
Is one not enought then?
going to an auction to see whats what, if i see a bargain ::) :)
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If it's road legal then ride it :y
If needs be I'll come down and ride it for you...
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drive it up the ramp on tickover. Park it against the bulk head let the clutch out and stall the bike against bulk head. Leavi gear. Leave bike on side stand.
Strap bike loosely ,on stand side first, from a frame rail or something solid, not foot peg or subframe idealy, handel bar if nothing else available, to tie down point on floor. Make sure tie down is pointing in the strap direction or it will bend and the bike will work loose.
Then do non stand side and use the strap to pull the bike upright, do not strap onto a stand or it may bend, you need to compress the suspension onto the tyres, stand may go through the floor.
Tighten down evenly side to side until solid. If sitting in the bike loosens the straps its not tight enough.
Tie the brake lever as said. Turn off ignition and petrol tap if it has one.
All this assumes you dont have a slow puncture.
But those straps aint man enough, you need ratchet straps. Halfords do them.
May need to wrap frame rail or bike tie down point with a rag incase the strap marks.
When loading make sure the drive at the rear wheel doesn't push the ramp out when the front wheel is on the van, and that the belly doesn't catch on the top of the ramp.
In addition. I'd be tempted to screw 2x2's to the floor either side of the wheels
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This is one type we sell. You'll also find instructions on how to secure the bike.
http://www.mandp.co.uk/productinfo/544974/Luggage/Tie-Downs-and-Straps/Motrax
We use ratchet tie-downs to secure the rear as well when we transport works and customers bikes.
Don't have bare straps against bodywork etc. Use a decent layer of foam or a folded over bath towel. :y
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If it's road legal then ride it :y
If needs be I'll come down and ride it for you...
Considering that too, again looked at some day insure prices, and day insurance comes out more for a bike than a transit at £23! All depends if it has tax & MOT ...
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To repeat what has already been said above:
Protect the paint wherever you use a tie down
Use tie downs to pull the bike down & compress the suspension.
Don't use the centrestand, it will punch a hole in the floor
Don't use the side stand (other than to hold the bike upright until the tie downs are tight).
If there is a lashing point on the cab/bulkhead tie the front wheel securely to it to prevent the bike moving back & forth.
Don't rely on leaving engine in gear or tying up the brake lever because the floor of a van is always covered in dust & sand and has zero grip.
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I can see Tunnie buying a motorbike trailer before long. and a sign over the garage door "Tunnie's used BMW's" ;D ;D
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Whatever you do Tunnie, do NOT lie it down... You'll never have the strength to pick it up again :-X ::)
Not entirely sure the tie down points in that van are in suitable positions for the job TBH :-/ :-/
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I can see Tunnie buying a motorbike trailer before long. and a sign over the garage door "Tunnie's used BMW's" ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D
I like your thinking :y