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Title: Clegg bursts his own balloon...
Post by: Nickbat on 24 April 2010, 15:09:07
THE Lib Dem leader is in favour of mosques being able to broadcast calls to prayer from loudspeakers in towns and cities across Britain.

He says the Islamic “muezzin” cry should be ­allowed to ring out just like Christian church bells. He described it as “a joyful thing”.


Yep, that'll go down well with the general public.  ::)

What a muppet. ;D ;D ;D

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/170893/General-Election-2010-Nick-Clegg-says-Let-Islam-prayer-call-ring-
Title: Re: Clegg bursts his own balloon...
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 24 April 2010, 15:21:55
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THE Lib Dem leader is in favour of mosques being able to broadcast calls to prayer from loudspeakers in towns and cities across Britain.

He says the Islamic “muezzin” cry should be ­allowed to ring out just like Christian church bells. He described it as “a joyful thing”.


Yep, that'll go down well with the general public.  ::)

What a muppet. ;D ;D ;D

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/170893/General-Election-2010-Nick-Clegg-says-Let-Islam-prayer-call-ring-

politicians  >:(

will sell their souls for some votes anytime >:(

permit this and say bye bye to your day and morning sleeps.. >:(
Title: Re: Clegg bursts his own balloon...
Post by: Debs. on 24 April 2010, 15:39:06
 ::) A little prick is often all it takes to burst a balloon! ;D
Title: Re: Clegg bursts his own balloon...
Post by: STMO999 on 24 April 2010, 15:58:59
I wonder how many mosques there are within 20 miles of his home.?
He's an upstart and hopefully will disappear after the election.
Title: Re: Clegg bursts his own balloon...
Post by: Varche on 24 April 2010, 15:59:05
The first speakers can be mounted on his house(bedroom wall). ;D
Title: Re: Clegg bursts his own balloon...
Post by: hoofing it on 24 April 2010, 21:53:50
Clegg -Fanny, Cameron-A waste off skin,Brown -bomb scare
Title: Re: Clegg bursts his own balloon...
Post by: pedroMV6 on 24 April 2010, 21:59:08
Clegg is hardly British - just look at his parentage.

Why on Earth is that idiot in charge of a major (laffs) UK Political Party?

Oh yeah, cos the Lib Dems are all bloody weirdos..........
Title: Re: Clegg bursts his own balloon...
Post by: hoofing it on 24 April 2010, 22:02:29
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Clegg -Fanny, Cameron-A waste off skin,Brown -bomb scare
can't say that its usfull.
clegg-used tampon
Title: Re: Clegg bursts his own balloon...
Post by: Banjax on 25 April 2010, 00:05:44
aaaah - the attack dogs have been let loose - is this all they've got?

politics of fear

stay scared britain - look what the bogey man is planning for us

vote for that lovely mr cameron you sheep  ;D ;D ;D





any more? its lovely watching the right wing media grasp around in desperation. strike that - it's more than lovely - it's hilarious, predictable and ultimately futile  8-)
Title: Re: Clegg bursts his own balloon...
Post by: Nickbat on 25 April 2010, 00:17:29
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aaaah - the attack dogs have been let loose - is this all they've got?

politics of fear

stay scared britain - look what the bogey man is planning for us

vote for that lovely mr cameron you sheep  ;D ;D ;D





any more? its lovely watching the right wing media grasp around in desperation. strike that - it's more than lovely - it's hilarious, predictable and ultimately futile  8-)


You are truly a truly misguided soul, Banjax. :(

Title: Re: Clegg bursts his own balloon...
Post by: Banjax on 25 April 2010, 00:28:30
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tories-tell-media-pals--of-concern-about-clegg-1953740.html

muppets or puppets on strings?

you decide  ;D






be afraid........be very afraid- can't wait to see what else they'll throw up  ;)
Title: Re: Clegg bursts his own balloon...
Post by: Nickbat on 25 April 2010, 00:32:52
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tories-tell-media-pals--of-concern-about-clegg-1953740.html

muppets or puppets on strings?

you decide  ;D


As always, you duck the issue.

Is Clegg is in favour of mosques being able to broadcast calls to prayer from loudspeakers in towns and cities across Britain?

Did he say the Islamic “muezzin” cry should be ­allowed to ring out just like Christian church bells? Did he described it as “a joyful thing”?

These are issues of great importance to the public, Banjax. If you're saying that these allegations are untrue, then point me to the lawsuit. If you admit they are true, then tell me if they are acceptable. 

Come on, Banjax. Let's hear it.
Title: Re: Clegg bursts his own balloon...
Post by: Banjax on 25 April 2010, 00:52:15
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tories-tell-media-pals--of-concern-about-clegg-1953740.html

muppets or puppets on strings?

you decide  ;D


As always, you duck the issue.

Is Clegg is in favour of mosques being able to broadcast calls to prayer from loudspeakers in towns and cities across Britain?

Did he say the Islamic “muezzin” cry should be ­allowed to ring out just like Christian church bells? Did he described it as “a joyful thing”?

These are issues of great importance to the public, Banjax. If you're saying that these allegations are untrue, then point me to the lawsuit. If you admit they are true, then tell me if they are acceptable. 

Come on, Banjax. Let's hear it.


once more, for the record - I couldn't give two hoots what invisible super being you choose to believe in, or how you choose to worship your fictional characters - it is, in my opinion all misguided superstition. which misguided superstition you decide to follow is entirely up to the individual.

i'm sorry that anything which upsets the delicate fabric of your existence sends you into yet another tirade  :(

Title: Re: Clegg bursts his own balloon...
Post by: Nickbat on 25 April 2010, 00:59:21
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tories-tell-media-pals--of-concern-about-clegg-1953740.html

muppets or puppets on strings?

you decide  ;D


As always, you duck the issue.

Is Clegg is in favour of mosques being able to broadcast calls to prayer from loudspeakers in towns and cities across Britain?

Did he say the Islamic “muezzin” cry should be ­allowed to ring out just like Christian church bells? Did he described it as “a joyful thing”?

These are issues of great importance to the public, Banjax. If you're saying that these allegations are untrue, then point me to the lawsuit. If you admit they are true, then tell me if they are acceptable. 

Come on, Banjax. Let's hear it.


once more, for the record - I couldn't give two hoots what invisible super being you choose to believe in, or how you choose to worship your fictional characters - it is, in my opinion all misguided superstition. which misguided superstition you decide to follow is entirely up to the individual.

i'm sorry that anything which upsets the delicate fabric of your existence sends you into yet another tirade  :(


So you think that mosques being able to broadcast calls to prayer from loudspeakers in towns and cities across Britain is acceptable?

Answer the freaking question and stop ducking and diving. >:(
Title: Re: Clegg bursts his own balloon...
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 25 April 2010, 09:10:22
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The first speakers can be mounted on his house(bedroom wall). ;D

nope.. near his bed ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Clegg bursts his own balloon...
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 25 April 2010, 09:16:14
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tories-tell-media-pals--of-concern-about-clegg-1953740.html

muppets or puppets on strings?

you decide  ;D


As always, you duck the issue.

Is Clegg is in favour of mosques being able to broadcast calls to prayer from loudspeakers in towns and cities across Britain?

Did he say the Islamic “muezzin” cry should be ­allowed to ring out just like Christian church bells? Did he described it as “a joyful thing”?

These are issues of great importance to the public, Banjax. If you're saying that these allegations are untrue, then point me to the lawsuit. If you admit they are true, then tell me if they are acceptable. 

Come on, Banjax. Let's hear it.


once more, for the record - I couldn't give two hoots what invisible super being you choose to believe in, or how you choose to worship your fictional characters - it is, in my opinion all misguided superstition. which misguided superstition you decide to follow is entirely up to the individual.

i'm sorry that anything which upsets the delicate fabric of your existence sends you into yet another tirade  :(


So you think that mosques being able to broadcast calls to prayer from loudspeakers in towns and cities across Britain is acceptable?

Answer the freaking question and stop ducking and diving. >:(

Banjaxx, you are in trouble mate..He has right , go dive deep ;D
Title: Re: Clegg bursts his own balloon...
Post by: Banjax on 25 April 2010, 09:35:09
 ;D ;D  :y
Title: Re: Clegg bursts his own balloon...
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 25 April 2010, 09:41:29
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;D ;D  :y

 ;D :y
Title: Re: Clegg bursts his own balloon...
Post by: Banjax on 25 April 2010, 09:49:13
Nickbat what you're doing is taking an irrational hatred for a religion and violenty opposing even the slightest reasonable, intelligent concession. If you and people like you are so upset because others are somehow different I really see no hope for us all.

Now I know that you think Islam and all its followers are hellbent on destroying the west - it's a line taken by most of the media. If that was the case how come theres over 1.5 billion Muslims and they havent managed it yet? That's a hell of a leap to feel threatened - maybe I'm more relaxed on these matters, more liberal. Live and let live or live in fear Nick - the choice is yours.

What would Jesus do?  ;D

Title: Re: Clegg bursts his own balloon...
Post by: HolyCount on 25 April 2010, 09:51:48
I think politicians, being polititians, will, at any given time, say what they think the people in the target audeince want to hear.

Their past utterances are about as relevant as the current verbal diahorrea falling about us as we approach the election!

Until such time as polititians promises are enshrined in an enforcable "Election Contract" they are not worth much thought.

I do not want to hear muslims calls to prayer broadcast over this country, just as I would not expect to be woken by church bells in any muslim country.
Title: Re: Clegg bursts his own balloon...
Post by: Nickbat on 25 April 2010, 09:55:40
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Nickbat what you're doing is taking an irrational hatred for a religion and violenty opposing even the slightest reasonable, intelligent concession. If you and people like you are so upset because others are somehow different I really see no hope for us all.

Now I know that you think Islam and all its followers are hellbent on destroying the west - it's a line taken by most of the media. If that was the case how come theres over 1.5 billion Muslims and they havent managed it yet? That's a hell of a leap to feel threatened - maybe I'm more relaxed on these matters, more liberal. Live and let live or live in fear Nick - the choice is yours.

What would Jesus do?  ;D



That's a slur. I have no hatred for any religion and it is unacceptable for you to allege that I have.  >:( >:( >:(

I happen to agree with HC's comment that I do not wish to hear calls to prayer in this country a just as I would not expect to hear church bells in a muslim country.
Title: Re: Clegg bursts his own balloon...
Post by: Banjax on 25 April 2010, 10:02:51
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Nickbat what you're doing is taking an irrational hatred for a religion and violenty opposing even the slightest reasonable, intelligent concession. If you and people like you are so upset because others are somehow different I really see no hope for us all.

Now I know that you think Islam and all its followers are hellbent on destroying the west - it's a line taken by most of the media. If that was the case how come theres over 1.5 billion Muslims and they havent managed it yet? That's a hell of a leap to feel threatened - maybe I'm more relaxed on these matters, more liberal. Live and let live or live in fear Nick - the choice is yours.

What would Jesus do?  ;D



That's a slur. I have no hatred for any religion and it is unacceptable for you to allege that I have.  >:( >:( >:(

I happen to agree with HC's comment that I do not wish to hear calls to prayer in this country a just as I would not expect to hear church bells in a muslim country.

So what you're saying is that we should all be as intolerant as Muslims?  :o
That's the direction you want us to go?  :o :o
Title: Re: Clegg bursts his own balloon...
Post by: HolyCount on 25 April 2010, 10:17:14
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Nickbat what you're doing is taking an irrational hatred for a religion and violenty opposing even the slightest reasonable, intelligent concession. If you and people like you are so upset because others are somehow different I really see no hope for us all.

Now I know that you think Islam and all its followers are hellbent on destroying the west - it's a line taken by most of the media. If that was the case how come theres over 1.5 billion Muslims and they havent managed it yet? That's a hell of a leap to feel threatened - maybe I'm more relaxed on these matters, more liberal. Live and let live or live in fear Nick - the choice is yours.

What would Jesus do?  ;D



That's a slur. I have no hatred for any religion and it is unacceptable for you to allege that I have.  >:( >:( >:(

I happen to agree with HC's comment that I do not wish to hear calls to prayer in this country a just as I would not expect to hear church bells in a muslim country.

So what you're saying is that we should all be as intolerant as Muslims?  :o
That's the direction you want us to go?  :o :o

Being tolerant and giving in completely are different things BJ.  We show tolerance by accepting others rights to do and believe as they see fit --- to a point. When those actions impinge on ours, we then have to defend our stance ( whatever that might be).

Are we to expect to witness public stonings to death and beheadings in Trafalgar Square because that is "their" culture and we should respect their rights to do so ????

I hope not
Title: Re: Clegg bursts his own balloon...
Post by: Nickbat on 25 April 2010, 10:53:47
What HC said.  :y :y :y
Title: Re: Clegg bursts his own balloon...
Post by: Banjax on 25 April 2010, 10:59:04
thats a rather huge leap isn't it? from call to prayer to public stoning?
Title: Re: Clegg bursts his own balloon...
Post by: HolyCount on 25 April 2010, 11:04:14
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thats a rather huge leap isn't it? from call to prayer to public stoning?

"Leap of Faith" BJ  ::)

Just an extreme example to ask where do you draw the line where tolerance becomes submission --- thin end of the wedge and all that.
Title: Re: Clegg bursts his own balloon...
Post by: Banjax on 25 April 2010, 11:09:03
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thats a rather huge leap isn't it? from call to prayer to public stoning?

"Leap of Faith" BJ  ::)

Just an extreme example to ask where do you draw the line where tolerance becomes submission --- thin end of the wedge and all that.


yep, good point HC, but its kinda mine too - people go from the thin end of the argument straight to the thick as if by opening the door a crack we're letting a torrent through - i don't see it like that  :y
Title: Re: Clegg bursts his own balloon...
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 25 April 2010, 11:46:00

although my papers say being muslim (which is just on paper) I would personally prefer church bells to wake up for the reason its more harmonic and much better than an awful voice shouting arabic words and raping my ears and sleep at 5 am ;D ;D

however to be objective there is something named clock in this century and I guess everybody knows where the closest church and mosque is ;D ;D
Title: Re: Clegg bursts his own balloon...
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 25 April 2010, 11:51:10
and there is unfortunately a trap about those religions.. once you accept them its a whole thing that you need to accept all of its rules together and cant stop coming extras like deadly punishments ,  effecting political life , effecting people and so on..which is very far from the original intention.. :( :(