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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Mr Skrunts on 23 April 2010, 18:04:58
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Not starting a debate here.
Just a simple question
Will reveal the reason why later.
Adding a Poll.
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Did you hear about the dyslexic atheist? He didn't think there was a dog. ;D ;D ;D
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No I don't personally.
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The state i'm in, I need to hedge my bets so i'm saying Yes! ;D ;D ;D ;)
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voted and intrigued :o
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She doesn't exist!
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all these people believe in something they have never seen...until a so called god comes and sits next to me and says nah then daz how yer doin im god i cant believe in it but its a shame there isnt more christian type people out there the world would be a nicer place(on the same note if there was a god why does he let kids get raped and folk get murdered and why cant i win the lottery)
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all these people believe in something they have never seen...until a so called god comes and sits next to me and says nah then daz how yer doin im god i cant believe in it but its a shame there isnt more christian type people out there the world would be a nicer place(on the same note if there was a god why does he let kids get raped and folk get murdered and why cant i win the lottery)
Blame Adam and Eve (well ... Eve) for that one ---- we were given free choice (and we don't always take the wisest path).
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I believe that I am God.
Where are my pills..........
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Elvis wore a star of david and a crucifix.
"I dont want to get kept out on a technicality" was his explination.
No reason not to believe IMHO :-/
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You may speak with God and that might suggest you are a Christian. ::)
......however, if he speaks to you; that probably means you are a nutter! ;D
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Elvis wore a star of david and a crucifix.
"I dont want to get kept out on a technicality" was his explination.
No reason not to believe IMHO :-/
No reason to believe, no reason not to believe. It's all down to how stupid you are really.
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I believe that I am God.
Where are my pills..........
;D ;D :y
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This is the story so far.
Yes 7 (33.3%)
No 11 (52.4%)
Not Sure 3 (14.3%)
Total votes: 21
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This is the story so far.
Yes 7 (33.3%)
No 11 (52.4%)
Not Sure 3 (14.3%)
Total votes: 21
I'm in suspenders me. Where's this all going??????
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No where special, just wanted to get an idea of where peoples thinking was.
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No where special, just wanted to get an idea of where peoples thinking was.
Right you are, Vicar.
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In another thread
Ryanair deseres all it gets the useless incompitent bunch of arse holes.
But why should anybody be compensated......and why should I as a tax payer be funding any of it.
Its an act of god so most insurance wont cover it.....its just tough and one of lifes little random nasties that comes along
Of the 21 votes, even if the 3 not sure votes were made into positive yes votes then the result becomes
No, 10
yes. 11
If this was represntitve of the country we live in then 52.45% of adults deny Gods existabce.
So being the same ratio then all insurance panels must be considerered the same ratio of 52.45% of non believers, so why do they use an act of God as an excuse in the small print not to pay out.
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In another thread
Ryanair deseres all it gets the useless incompitent bunch of arse holes.
But why should anybody be compensated......and why should I as a tax payer be funding any of it.
Its an act of god so most insurance wont cover it.....its just tough and one of lifes little random nasties that comes along
Of the 21 votes, even if the 3 not sure votes were made into positive yes votes then the result becomes
No, 10
yes. 11
If this was represntitve of the country we live in then 52.45% of adults deny Gods existabce.
So being the same ratio then all insurance panels must be considerered the same ratio of 52.45% of non believers, so why do they use an act of God as an excuse in the small print not to pay out.
Very, very good Skruntie. Well thought out.
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In another thread
Ryanair deseres all it gets the useless incompitent bunch of arse holes.
But why should anybody be compensated......and why should I as a tax payer be funding any of it.
Its an act of god so most insurance wont cover it.....its just tough and one of lifes little random nasties that comes along
Of the 21 votes, even if the 3 not sure votes were made into positive yes votes then the result becomes
No, 10
yes. 11
If this was represntitve of the country we live in then 52.45% of adults deny Gods existabce.
So being the same ratio then all insurance panels must be considerered the same ratio of 52.45% of non believers, so why do they use an act of God as an excuse in the small print not to pay out.
Very, very good Skruntie. Well thought out.
It's like swearing on the bibble in court, unless all court members including the Judge believe in God, then to me the court is false as they are Hypocrites to start with.
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In another thread
Ryanair deseres all it gets the useless incompitent bunch of arse holes.
But why should anybody be compensated......and why should I as a tax payer be funding any of it.
Its an act of god so most insurance wont cover it.....its just tough and one of lifes little random nasties that comes along
Of the 21 votes, even if the 3 not sure votes were made into positive yes votes then the result becomes
No, 10
yes. 11
If this was represntitve of the country we live in then 52.45% of adults deny Gods existabce.
So being the same ratio then all insurance panels must be considerered the same ratio of 52.45% of non believers, so why do they use an act of God as an excuse in the small print not to pay out.
Very, very good Skruntie. Well thought out.
It's like swearing on the bibble in court, unless all court members including the Judge believe in God, then to me the court is false as they are Hypocrites to start with.
They ask you what your religion is first, and if you don't have one, you don't swear on a holy book.
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Didnt ask that the last time I was in a court room.
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Didnt ask that the last time I was in a court room.
They make you swear on 'The ferret weekly' in Yorkshire.
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oh my god not a poll about god my god what ever next. Thank god it's friday god what a day it was. NO i dont belive in god and never will :)
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Didnt ask that the last time I was in a court room.
They make you swear on 'The ferret weekly' in Yorkshire.
:o ;D ;D
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I voted No.
Its the biggest con ever foisted on Mankind.
I look at all the gobbledegook that goes with Religion and it makes me sick.
Just remember to to treat your neighbour the way you would like him (or Her) to treat you and you cant go wrong (theoretically).
eddie
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I voted No.
Its the biggest con ever foisted on Mankind.
I look at all the gobbledegook that goes with Religion and it makes me sick.
Just remember to to treat your neighbour the way you would like him (or Her) to treat you and you cant go wrong (theoretically).
eddie
If I treated my neighbour how I would like her to treat me my wife would divorce me ;D ;D
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I voted No.
Its the biggest con ever foisted on Mankind.
I look at all the gobbledegook that goes with Religion and it makes me sick.
Just remember to to treat your neighbour the way you would like him (or Her) to treat you and you cant go wrong (theoretically).
eddie
If I treated my neighbour how I would like her to treat me my wife would divorce me ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D
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If my neighber treated me the same way as I treated her tonight, you wouldnt see site or sound from either of us till Monday at the earliest. ::)
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If my neighber treated me the same way as I treated her tonight, you wouldnt see site or sound from either of us till Monday at the earliest. ::)
Both engrossed in Bond eh? Have you got enough films to last till Monday? Impressive.
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If my neighber treated me the same way as I treated her tonight, you wouldnt see site or sound from either of us till Monday at the earliest. ::)
Both engrossed in Bondage eh? Have you got enough films to last till Monday? Impressive.
:o :o :o
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If my neighber treated me the same way as I treated her tonight, you wouldnt see site or sound from either of us till Monday at the earliest. ::)
:o
heart attack warning ;D
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If my neighber treated me the same way as I treated her tonight, you wouldnt see site or sound from either of us till Monday at the earliest. ::)
Both engrossed in Bondage eh? Have you got enough films to last till Monday? Impressive.
:o :o :o
Ahhh...I see. She's tied him up and will be back on Monday to release him.
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Elvis wore a star of david and a crucifix.
"I dont want to get kept out on a technicality" was his explination.
No reason not to believe IMHO :-/
No reason to believe, no reason not to believe. It's all down to how stupid you are really.
I myself believe, but as far as organised religion goes this is as deep as I'll get ;D
(http://www.noisetosignal.org/images/posts/fatherjack.jpeg)
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You will need to define 'God' for me to answer.
But for the avoidence of doubt god is whatever you want it to be,and if you believe that and it helps then fair enough.
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there is no act of god exclusion for insurance purposes, if there was they'd never pay out for floods for example :o
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Didnt ask that the last time I was in a court room.
How long did you get sent down for ?
and did the goat testify against you ?
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In another thread
Ryanair deseres all it gets the useless incompitent bunch of arse holes.
But why should anybody be compensated......and why should I as a tax payer be funding any of it.
Its an act of god so most insurance wont cover it.....its just tough and one of lifes little random nasties that comes along
Of the 21 votes, even if the 3 not sure votes were made into positive yes votes then the result becomes
No, 10
yes. 11
If this was represntitve of the country we live in then 52.45% of adults deny Gods existabce.
So being the same ratio then all insurance panels must be considerered the same ratio of 52.45% of non believers, so why do they use an act of God as an excuse in the small print not to pay out.
Very, very good Skruntie. Well thought out.
It's like swearing on the bibble in court, unless all court members including the Judge believe in God, then to me the court is false as they are Hypocrites to start with.
They ask you what your religion is first, and if you don't have one, you don't swear on a holy book.
http://www.jedichurch.org/ :y ;D
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ANY religion is a faith or belief, nothing more. I would say for the weak of mind but so many religious folk are highly educated & successful so how can they be so weak minded as to base thier whole life on a fairytale regardless of which testament is nothing more than "a read". (fiction).
Religion is the cause of most historic & present conflicts which we as a country still sadly lack the backbone to stand up to so we allow our people to be blown up on buses so as not to offend anyone...GOD forbid...
NO a bearded bloke was never nailed to cross & came back to save us from the extemists today any more than another bloke built an ark & led the animals in 2 by 2.
Did he break!!!! It's all bollix & causes more death than friday night drinking. GET REAL. ::)
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ANY religion is a faith or belief, nothing more. I would say for the weak of mind but so many religious folk are highly educated & successful so how can they be so weak minded as to base thier whole life on a fairytale regardless of which testament is nothing more than "a read". (fiction).
Religion is the cause of most historic & present conflicts which we as a country still sadly lack the backbone to stand up to so we allow our people to be blown up on buses so as not to offend anyone...GOD forbid...
NO a bearded bloke was never nailed to cross & came back to save us from the extemists today any more than another bloke built an ark & led the animals in 2 by 2.
Did he break!!!! It's all bollix & causes more death than friday night drinking. GET REAL. ::)
Sorry, but most of that is offensive tosh, IMHO.
Spiritual belief has little to do with man-made religious cults. Atheism is far more damaging than belief, for it leads to anarchy.
The majority of religions practice a moral code, to which adherence is of benefit to those who subscribe. The undermining of such values by modern day atheism will inevitably lead to a reduction in such moral values, a prospect which I find uncomfortable to say the least.
That is my view. The fact that you call it all "bollix" is, to my mind, most ill-considered.
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And your religion is?
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And your religion is?
A moral code to which they subscribe?...no matter the harm it does to those who don't follow or dare speak out against thier primitave ill thought & irrational beliefs?
If the weak of mind wish to live by such primative tribal values then so be it, best of luck to you but keep your fantasies to yourselves, me, the next bloke, Salmon Rushdie & South park can say & do as we please & no so called religion, extremist group, cult, Tom Cruise, ANY of you will ever change that no matter how huch trouble you make. 9/11.
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IMHO -- if there wasn't religion to base many of histories conflicts upon, man, as a race, would have latched on to some other convenient excuse!
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imho not a simple subject to answer directly :-/ and very sensitive but lets first look in some facts..
"God created the universe and heaven in 7 days.."
"The skys created in 7 days .." (from another holy book)
"Women is created from mans rib.." (from another holy book)
:-? :o :P
Now , its obvious that those statements dont help believers in the eyes of logic..
And looking in history to all those religion wars, religion painted political fights,
burned and deadly punished people and the blood shed.. >:( >:( >:( :(
its not that hard to deduce mankind suffered badly just because of religion.. :(
and for many centuries stopped human development ..and still heavily used and abused
to control billions.. :( :( :(
but on the other side, the questions remains :
how you manage millions-billions of food, sex hungry illiterate, ignorant masses.. :-/ :-/
and can you neglect the mankinds fear of death and the search for immortality :'( :'(
and to hold a virtual hand in case of desperation.. :'( :(
from Nickbat :
"The majority of religions practice a moral code, to which adherence is of benefit to those who subscribe"
which I believe is correct :y :y and was the initial intention to build religion..
from Lioned ;
"You will need to define 'God' for me to answer.
But for the avoidence of doubt god is whatever you want it to be,and if you
believe that and it helps then fair enough"
wise words.. :y :y
and my idea:
if you define god like a human who punishes you with hell ,
if you define bad as evil and if you use religion to control me my answer is a big NO.. >:( >:(
if you define god to be the total of universe and its laws like mathematics,
physics,chemistry and so on and all the creatures living (not only human kind) to be as its own part
(which says STMO is also a part of god and correct in his statement and saying he need pills ;D ;D -yes god is not perfect :-X :-X)
and says we all have our spirits which we need to mature and seperate the good and bad (not for the fear of hell)
then count me in.. :)
and for criticising atheism,
try waiting for death without any hope and expectation other than being a part of bugs and soil.. :( :'(
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And your religion is?
I am a Christian, albeit not a happy-clappy, regular Sunday church-going type. I do not subscribe to the edicts of the C of E clerics. I do, however, endeavour to follow the basic moral code of Christianity.
My spiritual views are my own. They are dictated neither by religious administrations, nor by the state. I am a free man. I have no need, or desire, to defend my faiths to anyone, least of all to those who have harbour a desire to rid me of them by statute, if necessary. Such people are to be despised. :(
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And your religion is?
I am a Christian, albeit not a happy-clappy, regular Sunday church-going type. I do not subscribe to the edicts of the C of E clerics. I do, however, endeavour to follow the basic moral code of Christianity.
My spiritual views are my own. They are dictated neither by religious administrations, nor by the state. I am a free man. I have no need, or desire, to defend my faiths to anyone, least of all to those who have harbour a desire to rid me of them by statute, if necessary. Such people are to be despised. :(
I have come in late on this debate Nick, but am in full agreement with your sentiments :y :y :y :y :y
I believe and love God, having also felt the "hand" of God's power on at least three ocassions that I can really justify. I am a Child of God, as I believe we all are.
As Nick expressed, I find some of the personal comments made during this debate against those of us who believe highly offensive >:( >:( >:( I am neither stupid nor without intelligent thought processes, which are totally sane.
If you don't believe that is your businesss, but do not disrespect me for my beliefs and love of God please!!!!!! ;) ;)
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Been following without commenting as rather surprised at some of the ill informed vitriol. It is a very hackneyed myth that religion causes most wars, extremism does however. Being ill informed creates a fertile field for extremism so beware of it.
I am a Christian, of the most ancient tradition. I usually keep that to myself but thought it pertinent - as I voted yes!
Peace. ;D
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Been following without commenting as rather surprised at some of the ill informed vitriol. It is a very hackneyed myth that religion causes most wars, extremism does however. Being ill informed creates a fertile field for extremism so beware of it.
I am a Christian, of the most ancient tradition. I usually keep that to myself but thought it pertinent - as I voted yes!
Peace. ;D
I, too, voted yes. It might be regarded as myth that religion causes most wars and can be postulated that extremism is the actual culprit. However man, at heart, is tribal and hugely competetive ... he will go to war for many reasons (many he will not even be aware of) and religion (or any other extremist view) is a convenient excuse and one oft used (in various watered down guises) for much of the horrors inflicted upon mankind by mankind itself.
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i've said all i'm ever going to say on the subject of religion on the oof (maybe), because everyone has there own views and no amount of words will shake that, it's something people have to make up their own minds on.
well, that and I'm terrified of Lizzie :o :o ;D ;D ;D
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p.s. Skruntie - you're a genius - whodda thunk discussing god would end in a fight? ;)
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i've said all i'm ever going to say on the subject of religion on the oof (maybe), because everyone has there own views and no amount of words will shake that, it's something people have to make up their own minds on.
well, that and I'm terrified of Lizzie :o :o ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D She's lovely really :y
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you're only saying that 'cos you're scared of her too ;)
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you're only saying that 'cos you're scared of her too ;)
;D ;D ;D ;D
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i've said all i'm ever going to say on the subject of religion on the oof (maybe), because everyone has there own views and no amount of words will shake that, it's something people have to make up their own minds on.
well, that and I'm terrified of Lizzie :o :o ;D ;D ;D
Hadn't noticed BJ! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
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i've said all i'm ever going to say on the subject of religion on the oof (maybe), because everyone has there own views and no amount of words will shake that, it's something people have to make up their own minds on.
well, that and I'm terrified of Lizzie :o :o ;D ;D ;D
Hadn't noticed BJ! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
oops - thought you'd gone :o
:-* :-* ;) ;) ;)
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i've said all i'm ever going to say on the subject of religion on the oof (maybe), because everyone has there own views and no amount of words will shake that, it's something people have to make up their own minds on.
well, that and I'm terrified of Lizzie :o :o ;D ;D ;D
.......we are all terrified of Lizzie BJ........especially when she is dressed in leather......carries a whip .....and threatens to discipline naughty boys... ::) ::) ::) ;)
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i've said all i'm ever going to say on the subject of religion on the oof (maybe), because everyone has there own views and no amount of words will shake that, it's something people have to make up their own minds on.
well, that and I'm terrified of Lizzie :o :o ;D ;D ;D
.......we are all terrified of Lizzie BJ........especially when she is dressed in leather......carries a whip .....and threatens to discipline naughty boys... ::) ::) ::) ;)
didn't know you could type so well one handed opti ;D ;D
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i've said all i'm ever going to say on the subject of religion on the oof (maybe), because everyone has there own views and no amount of words will shake that, it's something people have to make up their own minds on.
well, that and I'm terrified of Lizzie :o :o ;D ;D ;D
.......we are all terrified of Lizzie BJ........especially when she is dressed in leather......carries a whip .....and threatens to discipline naughty boys... ::) ::) ::) ;)
didn't know you could type so well one handed opti ;D ;D
......are you confusing me with Skruntie...BJ?.... ;D ;D ;)
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Too much detail on the leather bits [smiley=shocked.gif]
Further reading around the "belief systems cause wars" myth below for those interested.
http://www.theosthinktank.co.uk/Is_religion_the_cause_of_war.aspx?ArticleID=231&PageID=47
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Too much detail on the leather bits [smiley=shocked.gif]
Further reading around the "belief systems cause wars" myth below for those interested.
http://www.theosthinktank.co.uk/Is_religion_the_cause_of_war.aspx?ArticleID=231&PageID=47
A very interesting read :y :y :y
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Too much detail on the leather bits [smiley=shocked.gif]
Further reading around the "belief systems cause wars" myth below for those interested.
http://www.theosthinktank.co.uk/Is_religion_the_cause_of_war.aspx?ArticleID=231&PageID=47
A very interesting read :y :y :y
indeed....but phrases like:
"The new version of secularism, though, is every bit as bossy as its communist and fascist predecessors; it has become what I have called elsewhere the 'metanarrative of antimetanarrativism' and the 'absolutising of relativism' 2 — not simply a denial of meaning, but a denial to which all must submit."
the metanarrative of the antimetanarratism? :-? :-? :-? :-?
answers on a postcard to the usual address ;D ;D
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I think much pain and suffering is done in the name of religion, rather than by religion. Extremists from all regions have, over the centuries, used religion as an excuse to overrule other peoples, with violence if necessary.
Religion was a good tool to keep the populous under more control - look at our broken UK soceity now, seeing as the majority are no longer fearful of their chosen God(s). Some say some of the deeply religious Middle East countries are inhuman/barbaric (eg, Saudis stoning people to death), but it helps keep the populous mostly under control - a populous needs strong, defined, enforced punishments (including death penalties, public floggings and other painful punishments) to control the masses, and deter others from overstepping that line. It matters little if the enforcement is in the name of God(s) or local law.
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Been following without commenting as rather surprised at some of the ill informed vitriol. It is a very hackneyed myth that religion causes most wars, extremism does however. Being ill informed creates a fertile field for extremism so beware of it.
I am a Christian, of the most ancient tradition. I usually keep that to myself but thought it pertinent - as I voted yes!
Peace. ;D
religion does cause wars !!!!, believe in what you believe in ,keep it to yourself,dont try preaching to others and the rest is as guy says BOLLIX !!!
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all these people believe in something they have never seen...until a so called god comes and sits next to me and says nah then daz how yer doin im god i cant believe in it but its a shame there isnt more christian type people out there the world would be a nicer place(on the same note if there was a god why does he let kids get raped and folk get murdered and why cant i win the lottery)
well said ,my opinion too !!!!
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Re: Do You Believe in God?
No.
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Been following without commenting as rather surprised at some of the ill informed vitriol. It is a very hackneyed myth that religion causes most wars, extremism does however. Being ill informed creates a fertile field for extremism so beware of it.
I am a Christian, of the most ancient tradition. I usually keep that to myself but thought it pertinent - as I voted yes!
Peace. ;D
religion does cause wars !!!!, believe in what you believe in ,keep it to yourself,dont try preaching to others and the rest is as guy says BOLLIX !!!
The two greatest wars in human history, the 1914-18 Great War and the 1939-45 Second World War, were not caused by religion. ;) ;)
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Been following without commenting as rather surprised at some of the ill informed vitriol. It is a very hackneyed myth that religion causes most wars, extremism does however. Being ill informed creates a fertile field for extremism so beware of it.
I am a Christian, of the most ancient tradition. I usually keep that to myself but thought it pertinent - as I voted yes!
Peace. ;D
religion does cause wars !!!!, believe in what you believe in ,keep it to yourself,dont try preaching to others and the rest is as guy says BOLLIX !!!
The two greatest wars in human history, the 1914-18 Great War and the 1939-45 Second World War, were not caused by religion. ;) ;)
Lizzie , you are a historian so you know where to look for.. ;D
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Been following without commenting as rather surprised at some of the ill informed vitriol. It is a very hackneyed myth that religion causes most wars, extremism does however. Being ill informed creates a fertile field for extremism so beware of it.
I am a Christian, of the most ancient tradition. I usually keep that to myself but thought it pertinent - as I voted yes!
Peace. ;D
religion does cause wars !!!!, believe in what you believe in ,keep it to yourself,dont try preaching to others and the rest is as guy says BOLLIX !!!
The two greatest wars in human history, the 1914-18 Great War and the 1939-45 Second World War, were not caused by religion. ;) ;)
Lizzie , you are a historian so you know where to look for.. ;D
Thanks Cem :y :y :y
Yes, religion had nothing to do with those wars, but Empire building, false agreements and alliances, national greed, hunger for absolute power, land grabbing, devious and dishonest behaviour, , deception along with pure criminal hatred had everything to do with them! >:( >:( >:( :'( :'(
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something as "simple" as the omega was designed by someone, even where the coil pack was going to go.how can the human body and all it sees around it not be designed by someone? the omega was designed to get us from a to b in comfort, our existence, and what our "designer" had in mind for us should be the question? ::)
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something as "simple" as the omega was designed by someone, even where the coil pack was going to go.how can the human body and all it sees around it not be designed by someone? the omega was designed to get us from a to b in comfort, our existence, and what our "designer" had in mind for us should be the question? ::)
I think he had the nuthouse in mind for you ;D
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should meet the guy off britains got talent who swallows all that crap thens brings it bac2 up. i ll say hello! :D
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Yes, religion had nothing to do with those wars, but Empire building, false agreements and alliances, national greed, hunger for absolute power, land grabbing, devious and dishonest behaviour, , deception along with pure criminal hatred had everything to do with them! >:( >:( >:( :'( :'(
Some might refer to that as their religion !!!!
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should meet the guy off britains got talent who swallows all that crap thens brings it bac2 up. i ll say hello! :D
Simon Cowell ??? !!!! ::)
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Yes, religion had nothing to do with those wars, but Empire building, false agreements and alliances, national greed, hunger for absolute power, land grabbing, devious and dishonest behaviour, , deception along with pure criminal hatred had everything to do with them! >:( >:( >:( :'( :'(
Some might refer to that as their religion !!!!
I know what you are getting at HC, but in this case it was purely political ;) ;)
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"religion does cause wars !!!!, believe in what you believe in ,keep it to yourself,dont try preaching to others and the rest is as guy says BOLLIX !!!"
Uhm, exactly my point. I think. ;)
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Anyway ... what on earth are we thinking ... spending the sabbath contemplating religion ::) Good Grief ... what will B&Q make of that !!!!
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Heresy! Off with their heads!
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I dont think there is a God at all........
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Anyway ... what on earth are we thinking ... spending the sabbath contemplating religion ::) Good Grief ... what will B&Q make of that !!!!
start selling Incense Burners maybe? ;)
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I dont think there is a God at all........
Typical, either there is or there isnt if you want to join in, ::)
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Interestingly more people would rather admit to seeing aliens than believeing in God.
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1272225078/new#new
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Interestingly more people would rather admit to seeing aliens than believeing in God.
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1272225078/new#new
A lot of simple folk would think that the aliens were God and others wouldn't. This would cause a war...all because of religion.....again ::)
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Religion doesn't cause wars... Extremest interpretation of religion does ;)
I don't "do" organised religion, per say, but I do believe in a great creator :y :y
The Bible is, I'm afraid to say, a nice collection of stories written after the event... Fact!
That's all I have to say on religion :y
But you need to define "God" for a true answer... I don't believe in a man on a cloud but a creator... Yep :y
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I dont think there is a God at all........
Typical, either there is or there isnt if you want to join in, ::)
Skruntie.....
Anything to make you happy mate
To me there is no such "thing" as God.....
;D ;D :y :y
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I dont think there is a God at all........
Typical, either there is or there isnt if you want to join in, ::)
Skruntie.....
Anything to make you happy mate
To me there is no such "thing" as God.....
Is that ok Skruntie, or shall I spell it out in drawaings for you............!!!!
;D ;D :y :y
Ironic or what? ;D
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I dont think there is a God at all........
Typical, either there is or there isnt if you want to join in, ::)
Skruntie.....
Anything to make you happy mate
To me there is no such "thing" as God.....
Is that ok Skruntie, or shall I put it into drawaings for you............!!!!
;D ;D :y :y
According to you. ::)
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I dont think there is a God at all........
Typical, either there is or there isnt if you want to join in, ::)
Skruntie.....
Anything to make you happy mate
To me there is no such "thing" as God.....
Is that ok Skruntie, or shall I put it into drawaings for you............!!!!
;D ;D :y :y
According to you. ::)
Thats what you were asking people isnt it........for their opinions........???
::)
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I dont think there is a God at all........
Typical, either there is or there isnt if you want to join in, ::)
I think my post was straightforward and your response Skruntie a bit provocative.......
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Yes, religion had nothing to do with those wars, but Empire building, false agreements and alliances, national greed, hunger for absolute power, land grabbing, devious and dishonest behaviour, , deception along with pure criminal hatred had everything to do with them! >:( >:( >:( :'( :'(
Some might refer to that as their religion !!!!
I know what you are getting at HC, but in this case it was purely political ;) ;)
As an aside ... nice to share a thread with you again Lizzie ( One has been somewhat pre-occupied with family matters .... cousin's stepmama had a mishap with her ankle, now grandpapa has gorn and done the very same thing ::) .... I know they are Pretenders, but still "Family"! )
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And your religion is?
I am a Christian, albeit not a happy-clappy, regular Sunday church-going type. I do not subscribe to the edicts of the C of E clerics. I do, however, endeavour to follow the basic moral code of Christianity.
My spiritual views are my own. They are dictated neither by religious administrations, nor by the state. I am a free man. I have no need, or desire, to defend my faiths to anyone, least of all to those who have harbour a desire to rid me of them by statute, if necessary. Such people are to be despised. :(
Despised? A strong word from a religous man which only fuels my opninion that some (not all) religious folk can become irrationally fanatical in what is nothing but a belief, your above comments prove this. I also never for one moment harboured a desire to rid you of your faith, where did that come from?,all i did was question it & look at the reaction that provoked, over protective & aggressive.
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Religion doesn't cause wars... Extremest interpretation of religion does ;)
I don't "do" organised religion, per say, but I do believe in a great creator :y :y
The Bible is, I'm afraid to say, a nice collection of stories written after the event... Fact!
That's all I have to say on religion :y
But you need to define "God" for a true answer... I don't believe in a man on a cloud but a creator... Yep :y
So do i Paul. She's called Mother nature ie the evolution process. :)
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And your religion is?
I am a Christian, albeit not a happy-clappy, regular Sunday church-going type. I do not subscribe to the edicts of the C of E clerics. I do, however, endeavour to follow the basic moral code of Christianity.
My spiritual views are my own. They are dictated neither by religious administrations, nor by the state. I am a free man. I have no need, or desire, to defend my faiths to anyone, least of all to those who have harbour a desire to rid me of them by statute, if necessary. Such people are to be despised. :(
Despised? A strong word from a religous man which only fuels my opninion that some (not all) religious folk can become irrationally fanatical in what is nothing but a belief, your above comments prove this. I also never for one moment harboured a desire to rid you of your faith, where did that come from?,all i did was question it & look at the reaction that provoked, over protective & aggressive.
I didn't have you in mind when I made those comments. ;)
There are people around, though, and indeed we have seen examples in history (e.g. Germany, USSR) of those who see any form of religion as a threat and have used statutory instruments and/or military muscle in an attempt to quash any religious expression, believing such thoughts or actions to be a threat to the state. These are the people that should, in my view, be despised.
Hope that makes it clear. :y
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Nope i dont believe in God
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And your religion is?
I am a Christian, albeit not a happy-clappy, regular Sunday church-going type. I do not subscribe to the edicts of the C of E clerics. I do, however, endeavour to follow the basic moral code of Christianity.
My spiritual views are my own. They are dictated neither by religious administrations, nor by the state. I am a free man. I have no need, or desire, to defend my faiths to anyone, least of all to those who have harbour a desire to rid me of them by statute, if necessary. Such people are to be despised. :(
Despised? A strong word from a religous man which only fuels my opninion that some (not all) religious folk can become irrationally fanatical in what is nothing but a belief, your above comments prove this. I also never for one moment harboured a desire to rid you of your faith, where did that come from?,all i did was question it & look at the reaction that provoked, over protective & aggressive.
I didn't have you in mind when I made those comments. ;)
There are people around, though, and indeed we have seen examples in history (e.g. Germany, USSR) of those who see any form of religion as a threat and have used statutory instruments and/or military muscle in an attempt to quash any religious expression, believing such thoughts or actions to be a threat to the state. These are the people that should, in my view, be despised.
Hope that makes it clear. :y
Fair play Nick. We all dance to our own tune. It's fair to say many find comfort in thier religion without affecting others in any way. I've had plenty to say on the subject & would only be repeating myself if i said any more so i'll bow out gracefully! :y
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Fair play Nick. We all dance to our own tune. It's fair to say many find comfort in thier religion without affecting others in any way. I've had plenty to say on the subject & would only be repeating myself if i said any more so i'll bow out gracefully! :y
My brother is reliogous, he goes to the club every thursday night at 7pm and grabs a table for his group of friends to watch the turn. ::)
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Fair play Nick. We all dance to our own tune. It's fair to say many find comfort in thier religion without affecting others in any way. I've had plenty to say on the subject & would only be repeating myself if i said any more so i'll bow out gracefully! :y
Me, too. :y
My late Dad always said "never mix politics & religion with friendship". ;)
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I don't believe in fairytales! That aside, religion is probably the single most cause of wars over the centuries and more recently, terrorism. >:(
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My late Dad always said "never mix politics & religion with friendship". ;)
Excellent!
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"Do You Believe in God"
...which God do you mean? ;)
have a go at this test, you might be a Humanist... 8-)
http://www.humanism.org.uk/humanism/are-you-a-humanist
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I don't believe in fairytales! That aside, religion is probably the single most cause of wars over the centuries and more recently, terrorism. >:(
LAND is the cause of all wars...or rather lack of it :(
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Religion- Communal behaviour expressed as a ritual.
A God not required?
So best make one up so someone or something will always be in charge.
Now here is a thought... why does the existence of a God have to be taught? And why in many cases(schools and in the home)is it taught by people that do not even believe themselves what they are spouting!
Whats all that about then?
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Yes, religion had nothing to do with those wars, but Empire building, false agreements and alliances, national greed, hunger for absolute power, land grabbing, devious and dishonest behaviour, , deception along with pure criminal hatred had everything to do with them! >:( >:( >:( :'( :'(
Some might refer to that as their religion !!!!
I know what you are getting at HC, but in this case it was purely political ;) ;)
As an aside ... nice to share a thread with you again Lizzie ( One has been somewhat pre-occupied with family matters .... cousin's stepmama had a mishap with her ankle, now grandpapa has gorn and done the very same thing ::) .... I know they are Pretenders, but still "Family"! )
And for me HC! :-* :-* :y
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Sorry to miss out on this one but I spent the (long) w/e down on the South coast.
I believe in God but I have NO idea what He had in mind for Dungeness! Perhaps He was trying to get us to appreciate other places? ;D
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Sorry to miss out on this one but I spent the (long) w/e down on the South coast.
I believe in God but I have NO idea what He had in mind for Dungeness! Perhaps He was trying to get us to appreciate other places? ;D
Perhaps he thought Slough might get lonely. ;)
Kevin
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Someone's out there!
Not sure if its God though?
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Sorry to miss out on this one but I spent the (long) w/e down on the South coast.
I believe in God but I have NO idea what He had in mind for Dungeness! Perhaps He was trying to get us to appreciate other places? ;D
;) There is a 'heavenly' miniature steam-railway though! ;)
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Sorry to miss out on this one but I spent the (long) w/e down on the South coast.
I believe in God but I have NO idea what He had in mind for Dungeness! Perhaps He was trying to get us to appreciate other places? ;D
;) There is a 'heavenly' miniature steam-railway though! ;)
Even that turns round and goes back when it gets there though!!! ;D