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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: KW on 02 May 2010, 12:40:13
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Can anybody tell me why the post I made yesterday about getting a drill at less than half retail price was removed?
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I'm guessing the content and the terminology used was the reason it got deleted.
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I'm guessing the content and the terminology used was the reason it got deleted.
The "content" was a picture of the drill I had bought (GBH 36 VF-LI).
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maybe they wanted to buy it for themselves :D :D :D
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I'm guessing the content and the terminology used was the reason it got deleted.
The "content" was a picture of the drill I had bought (GBH 36 VF-LI).
Having seen the post in question, I'm guessing it was the accompaning text. I probably would have removed the post as well....
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I can see this is gonna be fun. :D ::),no playing up kw ;D
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I'm guessing the content and the terminology used was the reason it got deleted.
The "content" was a picture of the drill I had bought (GBH 36 VF-LI).
Having seen the post in question, I'm guessing it was the accompaning text. I probably would have removed the post as well....
So the phrases "can't keep his dick in his pants", and "slipping the Bosch rep a length" are likely to offend?
I did (for once) actually sit & think about what I was going to write in order not to offend, and I really can't see where the offence is in either of them to be honest.
However if either of those phrases are deemed offensive here, can you tell me why one search I conducted pulled up 15 hits containing racist remarks?
I was also given a warning by H21 not too long ago that stated if I used ANY expletive again (including if it was masked by spaces, blanks, etc) then I would be banned immediately, yet a quick search shows it seems it is perfectly OK for others to do the same.
Ironically, one of the people who has done just what I was told I couldn't do is one of the people who used to constantly complain about my so called "unnecessary" use of certain words that some consider offensive.
Don't get me wrong Jaime, I took on board H21's warning and do try to avoid using expletives - but if that warning from H21 applies to me then it's not unrealistic to expect it to apply to everybody if this really is a democratic community.
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I'm guessing the content and the terminology used was the reason it got deleted.
The "content" was a picture of the drill I had bought (GBH 36 VF-LI).
Having seen the post in question, I'm guessing it was the accompaning text. I probably would have removed the post as well....
So the phrases "can't keep his dick in his pants", and "slipping the Bosch rep a length" are likely to offend?
I did (for once) actually sit & think about what I was going to write in order not to offend, and I really can't see where the offence is in either of them to be honest.
However if either of those phrases are deemed offensive here, can you tell me why one search I conducted pulled up 15 hits containing racist remarks?
I was also given a warning by H21 not too long ago that stated if I used ANY expletive again (including if it was masked by spaces, blanks, etc) then I would be banned immediately, yet a quick search shows it seems it is perfectly OK for others to do the same.
Ironically, one of the people who has done just what I was told I couldn't do is one of the people who used to constantly complain about my so called "unnecessary" use of certain words that some consider offensive.
Don't get me wrong Jaime, I took on board H21's warning and do try to avoid using expletives - but if that warning from H21 applies to me then it's not unrealistic to expect it to apply to everybody (unless OOF is actually run by communists).
You are correct in every respect. You are perfectly aware of the the community here, and I would say that those phrases are probably too close to the bone (no pun intended).
You are also correct, the rules apply equally to you as they do to everyone else.
I cannot possibly read every thread, I'm sure the other admins can't either. Some slip through the net, some don't.
Personally, I guess I also 'miss' things that need moderating - like many, I am a member of, and moderate, many different forums and online resources, each with its own rules and levels of decency, its easy to mis-moderate.
Each post is moderated by the Admin who happens to be reading it at the time, within their interpretations of the rules, and their views on the common decency of that post. Each post is considered on its own merit. Yes, some get missed. Yes, some get read, but still missed as being inappropriate for this site.
Whilst, as you know, any rules are easily bypassed, all members here should be fully aware of the community type here, and where the line of decency for this site is drawn.
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You are correct in every respect. You are perfectly aware of the the community here, and I would say that those phrases are probably too close to the bone (no pun intended).
You are also correct, the rules apply equally to you as they do to everyone else.
I cannot possibly read every thread, I'm sure the other admins can't either. Some slip through the net, some don't.
Personally, I guess I also 'miss' things that need moderating - like many, I am a member of, and moderate, many different forums and online resources, each with its own rules and levels of decency, its easy to mis-moderate.
Each post is moderated by the Admin who happens to be reading it at the time, within their interpretations of the rules, and their views on the common decency of that post. Each post is considered on its own merit. Yes, some get missed. Yes, some get read, but still missed as being inappropriate for this site.
Whilst, as you know, any rules are easily bypassed, all members here should be fully aware of the community type here, and where the line of decency for this site is drawn.
I fully accept that the odd one or two (or even three if I'm being generous) posts will slip through, but 15 posts (15 is the search limit) and EVERY single one of the results found containing racist comments has managed to "slip through"?
Sorry chap, don't believe that for a minute.
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Have to say..... I saw this post by KW.....it did not strike me as being offensive in any way. Just a bit of fun ....I thought... :-/ :-/ :-/ :y......and very good value at £275.... ;) ;) ;)
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Have to say..... I saw this post by KW.....it did not strike me as being offensive in any way. Just a bit of fun ....I thought... :-/ :-/ :-/ :y......and very good value at £275.... ;) ;) ;)
Too right it was good value, especially when she showed me the RRP in the catalogue (£642.73).
As an aside it got it's christening today, went through 9" of concrete like it was plasterboard :o
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Have to say..... I saw this post by KW.....it did not strike me as being offensive in any way. Just a bit of fun ....I thought... :-/ :-/ :-/ :y......and very good value at £275.... ;) ;) ;)
Yep i agree .... not offensive in the slightest.... made me chuckle in fact ;D
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as a newbie i found nor took offence in what KW posted .if i did i would have left the forum ,
i don't know if this forum has an age limit but beeing as its for car owners ( and not a knitting circle) :D i guess we all over 17 and we all big enough to know when something is out of line or not .
KW post i found funny in a Benny hill way ;D. i also understand all forums have there own rules but a simple PM to KW would have stopped him from posting this post toppic .
just my two cents worth :y :y
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My 2p worth.
Kw had 2 options open to him in this matter
1) Contact an admin via pm to discuss the matter
2) Create a public post
The sensible approach would have been to take course of action no 1.
Those who wish to 'stir' choose option 2
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as a newbie i found nor took offence in what KW posted .if i did i would have left the forum ,
i don't know if this forum has an age limit but beeing as its for car owners ( and not a knitting circle) :D i guess we all over 17 and we all big enough to know when something is out of line or not .
KW post i found funny in a Benny hill way ;D. i also understand all forums have there own rules but a simple PM to KW would have stopped him from posting this post toppic .
just my two cents worth :y :y
There is then the other argument that kids are looking over parents shoulders, etc....and that is quite a likely scenario.
However, those same kids have more than likely already heard swearing, more than likely seen a pair of tits on page 3, etc.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for kids keeping their innocence for as long as possible - but trying to prevent them seeing or hearing words that are in the Oxford English they use to do their homework.......can ya see the flaw? ;D
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My son knows more swear words than us. :o,and he is only 6. ;D
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My 2p worth.
Kw had 2 options open to him in this matter
1) Contact an admin via pm to discuss the matter
2) Create a public post
The sensible approach would have been to take course of action no 1.
Those who wish to 'stir' choose option 2
Just how is it "stirring"?
But while we are on the subject of stirring/creating issues, surely if there was a "new" rule about swearing which included we can no longer even use blanking characters then....
1. Why was I the only one to get the PM, surely a public announcement would have been better?
2. Why are others (including ironically, the very same who think i'm a caveman) doing exactly what I've been told not to and getting away with it?
Double standards, or just a good old fashioned witch hunt?
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Have to say..... I saw this post by KW.....it did not strike me as being offensive in any way. Just a bit of fun ....I thought... :-/ :-/ :-/ :y......and very good value at £275.... ;) ;) ;)
I agree with the above :y
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Its quite simple.
We do not operate double standards at all.
Some members have history and those said members we have less tolerance with.
The said post started out a point where it was only going to go one way given the histpry of the originator and hence that lower (and self inflicted) level of tolerance was applied.
Admin applied the standard approach of delete and Pm the orginator.
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tbh you cant argue with that mark. ;)
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Its quite simple.
We do not operate double standards at all.
Some members have history and those said members we have less tolerance with.
The said post started out a point where it was only going to go one way given the histpry of the originator and hence that lower (and self inflicted) level of tolerance was applied.
Admin applied the standard approach of delete and Pm the orginator.
That's the other thing, there was no PM sent.
Now regardless of the so called self infliction of being tolerated less (which is called bullying by the way as the original warning had been issued and noted), that doesn't excuse the lack of basic decency in letting people know what's going on - which in turn would see threads like this never start in the first place.
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Its quite simple.
We do not operate double standards at all.
Some members have history and those said members we have less tolerance with.
The said post started out a point where it was only going to go one way given the histpry of the originator and hence that lower (and self inflicted) level of tolerance was applied.
Admin applied the standard approach of delete and Pm the orginator.
That's the other thing, there was no PM sent.
Now regardless of the so called self infliction of being tolerated less (which is called bullying by the way as the original warning had been issued and noted), that doesn't excuse the lack of basic decency in letting people know what's going on - which in turn would see threads like this never start in the first place.
Hmmm, so why are here again.... ....you must have realised that the post was going to be close to the knuckle, given the several PMs we have had in the past :-/. But again, you insist on pushing the limits of what you can get away with :'(. Then we have to over analyse why/what/how.
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Its quite simple.
We do not operate double standards at all.
Some members have history and those said members we have less tolerance with.
The said post started out a point where it was only going to go one way given the histpry of the originator and hence that lower (and self inflicted) level of tolerance was applied.
Admin applied the standard approach of delete and Pm the orginator.
That's the other thing, there was no PM sent.
Now regardless of the so called self infliction of being tolerated less (which is called bullying by the way as the original warning had been issued and noted), that doesn't excuse the lack of basic decency in letting people know what's going on - which in turn would see threads like this never start in the first place.
Hmmm, so why are here again.... ....you must have realised that the post was going to be close to the knuckle, given the several PMs we have had in the past :-/. But again, you insist on pushing the limits of what you can get away with :'(. Then we have to over analyse why/what/how.
You forgot who?
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Trust you to give your 2p worth if theres trouble around you are not far away ::)
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Trust you to give your 2p worth if theres trouble around you are not far away ::)
Call this trouble, part timer? You must have led a sheltered life. ;D
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Trust you to give your 2p worth if theres trouble around you are not far away ::)
Call this trouble, part timer? You must have led a sheltered life. ;D
As i told you a couple of years ago, i am still learning, and believe me you have a lot to teach ;D ;D
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Trust you to give your 2p worth if theres trouble around you are not far away ::)
Call this trouble, part timer? You must have led a sheltered life. ;D
This thread ought to be about you, as you swear more than most and have a terrible attitude towards people.
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cant we have a better subject on a sunday night.. :(
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Trust you to give your 2p worth if theres trouble around you are not far away ::)
Call this trouble, part timer? You must have led a sheltered life. ;D
As i told you a couple of years ago, i am still learning, and believe me you have a lot to teach ;D ;D
It's easy:
1. People are seldom what they pretend to be on a forum
2. If you tell people about your personal life on a public forum, you will be ridiculed. So don't do it.
3. If I upset you by insulting you or taking the piss, remember it's not really me, it's probably someone pretending to be horrible when they are really very nice.
Lesson continues when I feel like it.
;D ;D ;D
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Trust you to give your 2p worth if theres trouble around you are not far away ::)
Call this trouble, part timer? You must have led a sheltered life. ;D
This thread ought to be about you, as you swear more than most and have a terrible attitude towards people.
Only you, bumface.
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cant we have a better subject on a sunday night.. :(
The Greek bailout proposals and their inplications for the PIIGS? :-/
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Trust you to give your 2p worth if theres trouble around you are not far away ::)
Call this trouble, part timer? You must have led a sheltered life. ;D
This thread ought to be about you, as you swear more than most and have a terrible attitude towards people.
Only you, bumface.
STMO, please dont fuel any fire..
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Trust you to give your 2p worth if theres trouble around you are not far away ::)
Call this trouble, part timer? You must have led a sheltered life. ;D
As i told you a couple of years ago, i am still learning, and believe me you have a lot to teach ;D ;D
It's easy:
1. People are seldom what they pretend to be on a forum
2. If you tell people about your personal life on a public forum, you will be ridiculed. So don't do it.
3. If I upset you by insulting you or taking the piss, remember it's not really me, it's probably someone pretending to be horrible when they are really very nice.
Lesson continues when I feel like it.
;D ;D ;D
Sound advice Steve :y
I will wait for the next lesson ;)
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Trust you to give your 2p worth if theres trouble around you are not far away ::)
Call this trouble, part timer? You must have led a sheltered life. ;D
As i told you a couple of years ago, i am still learning, and believe me you have a lot to teach ;D ;D
It's easy:
1. People are seldom what they pretend to be on a forum
2. If you tell people about your personal life on a public forum, you will be ridiculed. So don't do it.
3. If I upset you by insulting you or taking the piss, remember it's not really me, it's probably someone pretending to be horrible when they are really very nice.
Lesson continues when I feel like it.
;D ;D ;D
Sound advice Steve :y
I will wait for the next lesson ;)
4. Don't listen to Skruntie or Cem, they are homosexuals.
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Trust you to give your 2p worth if theres trouble around you are not far away ::)
Call this trouble, part timer? You must have led a sheltered life. ;D
As i told you a couple of years ago, i am still learning, and believe me you have a lot to teach ;D ;D
It's easy:
1. People are seldom what they pretend to be on a forum
2. If you tell people about your personal life on a public forum, you will be ridiculed. So don't do it.
3. If I upset you by insulting you or taking the piss, remember it's not really me, it's probably someone pretending to be horrible when they are really very nice.
Lesson continues when I feel like it.
;D ;D ;D
Sound advice Steve :y
I will wait for the next lesson ;)
4. Don't listen to Skruntie or Cem, they are homosexuals.
;D ;D
why not , lets try different ;D
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Trust you to give your 2p worth if theres trouble around you are not far away ::)
Call this trouble, part timer? You must have led a sheltered life. ;D
As i told you a couple of years ago, i am still learning, and believe me you have a lot to teach ;D ;D
It's easy:
1. People are seldom what they pretend to be on a forum
2. If you tell people about your personal life on a public forum, you will be ridiculed. So don't do it.
3. If I upset you by insulting you or taking the piss, remember it's not really me, it's probably someone pretending to be horrible when they are really very nice.
Lesson continues when I feel like it.
;D ;D ;D
Sound advice Steve :y
I will wait for the next lesson ;)
4. Don't listen to Skruntie or Cem, they are homosexuals.
;D ;D ;D
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you must have realised that the post was going to be close to the knuckle,
Are you REALLY trying to tell me the two phrases used were "close to the knuckle"?
If so, search through a few of your own past contributions if we are going to talk what can be perceived as offensive.
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booooooring
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Same old same old.....
People were welcoming him back like wanno after the last time he spat his dummy out........
KW, like it or lump it mate, these are the people who run the site so about time you respected that, and frankly its all getting aa bit tedious and predictable with you......
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Same old same old.....
People were welcoming him back like wanno after the last time he spat his dummy out........
KW, like it or lump it mate, these are the people who run the site so about time you respected that, and frankly its all getting aa bit tedious and predictable with you......
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See you jump back in stirrer mode as soon as you read the thread.
Pf all the people that read the thread it seems no one was put out by it. Admins have thier reasons, but yet you jump in and start pushing buttons again.
Sorry matey, in reality the thread is between KW and Admins, bot the rest of us, if you cant be constructive then stop flipping stirring, you do this every time, which to me is a bigger problem.
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Same old same old.....
People were welcoming him back like wanno after the last time he spat his dummy out........
KW, like it or lump it mate, these are the people who run the site so about time you respected that, and frankly its all getting aa bit tedious and predictable with you......
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See you jump back in stirrer mode as soon as you read the thread.
Pf all the people that read the thread it seems no one was put out by it. Admins have thier reasons, but yet you jump in and start pushing buttons again.
Sorry matey, in reality the thread is between KW and Admins, bot the rest of us, if you cant be constructive then stop flipping stirring, you do this every time, which to me is a bigger problem.
Like everyone Pip I have a right to express my opinion, as indeed you are, and have done.....
And the matter is between KW and the Admins, so why did KW not just PM them............???
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Same old same old.....
People were welcoming him back like wanno after the last time he spat his dummy out........
KW, like it or lump it mate, these are the people who run the site so about time you respected that, and frankly its all getting aa bit tedious and predictable with you......
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See you jump back in stirrer mode as soon as you read the thread.
Pf all the people that read the thread it seems no one was put out by it. Admins have thier reasons, but yet you jump in and start pushing buttons again.
Sorry matey, in reality the thread is between KW and Admins, bot the rest of us, if you cant be constructive then stop flipping stirring, you do this every time, which to me is a bigger problem.
Like everyone Pip I have a right to express my opinion, as indeed you are, and have done.....
And the matter is between KW and the Admins, so why did KW not just PM them............???
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No idea, but did you read the post that got deleted.?
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Yes, and frankly it didnt offend me......
I dont care what he or others post, I am not easily offended, however his constant whining is getting tiresome.......
Wont comment anymore Skruntie, I will keep the balance of my thoughts to myself........
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Yes, and frankly it didnt offend me......
I dont care what he or others post, I am not easily offended, however his constant whining is getting tiresome.......
Wont comment anymore Skruntie, I will keep the balance of my thoughts to myself........
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About right matey, you admit he said nothing wrong to offend you but you still stick your twopennyworth in to heat things up. and I bet you dont keep out of it.
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Yes, and frankly it didnt offend me......
I dont care what he or others post, I am not easily offended, however his constant whining is getting tiresome.......
Wont comment anymore Skruntie, I will keep the balance of my thoughts to myself........
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Trust you to give your 2p worth if theres trouble around you are not far away ::)
Call this trouble, part timer? You must have led a sheltered life. ;D
This thread ought to be about you, as you swear more than most and have a terrible attitude towards people.
And Skruntie, seems to me that YOU put your 2p in well before I did.........???
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KW, like it or lump it mate, these are the people who run the site so about time you respected that,
I have no issue with the rules, and I also have no issue when Admin constantly tell us how democratic and PC the place is going to be (ok, I lie...I don't do PC)
What I do have a problem with though is when the very rules Admin tell us we must live by are broken on a daily basis and nothing is done.
Now if you had read the whole thread, you would have noticed that I pointed out that one search produced no less than 15 seperate results (15 is the max search number) of posts where there is content that is racist.
I don't know about you, but in my world I'd say that racism comes way above the list of priorities when compared to words that you have been programmed to believe are offensive.
My father used to have a saying - "don't do as I do, do as I say" - I'm sure you can see the flaw in that.
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KW, like it or lump it mate, these are the people who run the site so about time you respected that,
I have no issue with the rules, and I also have no issue when Admin constantly tell us how democratic and PC the place is going to be (ok, I lie...I don't do PC)
What I do have a problem with though is when the very rules Admin tell us we must live by are broken on a daily basis and nothing is done.
Now if you had read the whole thread, you would have noticed that I pointed out that one search produced no less than 15 seperate results (15 is the max search number) of posts where there is content that is racist.
I don't know about you, but in my world I'd say that racism comes way above the list of priorities when compared to words that you have been programmed to believe are offensive.
My father used to have a saying - "don't do as I do, do as I say" - I'm sure you can see the flaw in that.
I totally agree with you as a matter of fact on the first point and believe that they are doing it that way in order to avoid forcibly banning people, maybe an example should be set by banning whichever member crosses the line next...........??
On the second point, I did read this whole thread and whilst I dont care about foul language on here (doesnt bother me, I work in a male environment and hear it 24.7) I do think anything racial is far more threatening and has far greater implications not only for the posting member, but also for admin.
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KW, like it or lump it mate, these are the people who run the site so about time you respected that,
I have no issue with the rules, and I also have no issue when Admin constantly tell us how democratic and PC the place is going to be (ok, I lie...I don't do PC)
What I do have a problem with though is when the very rules Admin tell us we must live by are broken on a daily basis and nothing is done.
Now if you had read the whole thread, you would have noticed that I pointed out that one search produced no less than 15 seperate results (15 is the max search number) of posts where there is content that is racist.
I don't know about you, but in my world I'd say that racism comes way above the list of priorities when compared to words that you have been programmed to believe are offensive.
My father used to have a saying - "don't do as I do, do as I say" - I'm sure you can see the flaw in that.
Believe it or not that is how the police work in our modern society as well. A vast number of laws are broken on a regular basis and nothing is done about it - in fact it is clear that a blind eye is deliberately turned because you can bring things to their attention and they give a convoluted reason for not pursuing it. When it's the law in question, I think it is wholly inappropriate to not enforce as a matter of policy.
Web forums are a whole different matter and are moderated according to the resources and opinions of the owners and moderators - that's what gives the forums character.
I fully support the standards that are imposed and the relatively hands-off way in which they are enforced on OOF. When you use a light-handed enforcement you have to look out for those whose heads are repeatedly appearing above the parapet and take sharper action to prevent the spread of the misdemeanours - especially if they are carried out "with attitude". This may look unfair but is the only practical way to apply the rules in a relaxed way. It's like yellow cards in football and 9 points on the driving license, they both show you have history and are probably not learning from the generosity previously afforded.
FWIW: My 0.02GBP-worth... I appreciate the gesture towards removal of foul language on the site and don't consider it macho or broad-minded to pretend otherwise. :)
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Told you it was gonna be fun. ::) ;D
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KW, like it or lump it mate, these are the people who run the site so about time you respected that,
I have no issue with the rules, and I also have no issue when Admin constantly tell us how democratic and PC the place is going to be (ok, I lie...I don't do PC)
What I do have a problem with though is when the very rules Admin tell us we must live by are broken on a daily basis and nothing is done.
Now if you had read the whole thread, you would have noticed that I pointed out that one search produced no less than 15 seperate results (15 is the max search number) of posts where there is content that is racist.
I don't know about you, but in my world I'd say that racism comes way above the list of priorities when compared to words that you have been programmed to believe are offensive.
My father used to have a saying - "don't do as I do, do as I say" - I'm sure you can see the flaw in that.
As I said at the beginning of this thread, I don't read every single thread. Most of them are as tedious and boring as this one, and I have far more interesting things to do.
So some get missed. Live with it.
Nobody is 'picking' specifically on you, though I will admit that, given your history, you're threads probably get checked more than other members who mostly have managed to fall within our guides.
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This kind of thing seems to be popping up alot now, the PC conversation. What ever any one says or does could so easily offened any one but people of sane mind just move on i know theres history with kw but he was just showing every one that wanted to look at a deal to save people money and i dont care how its worded if its going to save me money. What a boring place this would be if every one was dull and didnt have a laugh. I know i dont post alot but i do come on here quite a bit a just read the post and it does put a smile on my face when im at work and surely the general discussion area is for such posts. Come on guys all the things that are going on in the world a comment like that is not going to harm anyone.
p.s. Penfold you really do annoy me i bet you are a 5ft nothing pc tough guy if you have a problem with kw why dont you sort it out directly with him rather that trying to incite stupid little arguments or better still meet up with him and sort your differences there
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This kind of thing seems to be popping up alot now, the PC conversation. What ever any one says or does could so easily offened any one but people of sane mind just move on i know theres history with kw but he was just showing every one that wanted to look at a deal to save people money and i dont care how its worded if its going to save me money. What a boring place this would be if every one was dull and didnt have a laugh. I know i dont post alot but i do come on here quite a bit a just read the post and it does put a smile on my face when im at work and surely the general discussion area is for such posts. Come on guys all the things that are going on in the world a comment like that is not going to harm anyone.
p.s. Penfold you really do annoy me i bet you are a 5ft nothing pc tough guy if you have a problem with kw why dont you sort it out directly with him rather that trying to incite stupid little arguments or better still meet up with him and sort your differences there
And if you have a problem with me why didnt you do the same.........??
Not exactly 5ft, but comments much appreciated
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This kind of thing seems to be popping up alot now, the PC conversation. What ever any one says or does could so easily offened any one but people of sane mind just move on i know theres history with kw but he was just showing every one that wanted to look at a deal to save people money and i dont care how its worded if its going to save me money. What a boring place this would be if every one was dull and didnt have a laugh. I know i dont post alot but i do come on here quite a bit a just read the post and it does put a smile on my face when im at work and surely the general discussion area is for such posts. Come on guys all the things that are going on in the world a comment like that is not going to harm anyone.
p.s. Penfold you really do annoy me i bet you are a 5ft nothing pc tough guy if you have a problem with kw why dont you sort it out directly with him rather that trying to incite stupid little arguments or better still meet up with him and sort your differences there
The post was NOT about how members could get deals
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i never read the post but that was my understanding my apologies. Penfold ok ill give you 5ft 2in then. and as i said you annoy me nothing more than that just one of lifes little pains. If i remember rightly you posted on here before that you wouldnt keep doing things like this. Pal ive never met you and face to face we might even get along but on here you annoy me, you just seem like a pain in the proverbial
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Been watching this thread from the start ..
I think everyone has spilled the beans more than enough.. And I think it effects the forum on the negative side..Members start to debate with each other solving nothing and causing further problems..
Now, admins, please lock it..
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i never read the post but that was my understanding my apologies. Penfold ok ill give you 5ft 2in then. and as i said you annoy me nothing more than that just one of lifes little pains. If i remember rightly you posted on here before that you wouldnt keep doing things like this. Pal ive never met you and face to face we might even get along but on here you annoy me, you just seem like a pain in the proverbial
Rikkie
I am sure we would get along if we meet mate, ask people who have met me, and please dont have a go at me on here for doing only the same as you have just done.....
Dont want to argue so happy to agree to disagree
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ill agree on that. but wasnt doing what you doi was just pointing out what i see. honestly mate if you dont like kw just dont reply on his post simple.
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Oh dear here we go again.....
I do think people wont be happy until this site closes >:(
The Mods on here do it all for free, and have better things to do than smack childrens bottoms.... I remember my Dad saying " act like a child, you will be treated like one!"
Lets get a Grip eh..
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Had enough of this dross.
Locking.....