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Title: MOT and tyres
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 14 April 2007, 19:00:26
What are the rules on tyres?

Specifically... does a certain size or rating, have to be fitted, depending on the spec of the car?

EG... if my Elite, (which has poor tyres)  magically grew a set of 15" CDX wheels with brand new H rated tyres, would it pass a test? ;)

Also, what are the rules about mix and matching widths of tyre by 10mm... I presume that it's OK as long as the same widths are on the same axles? Eg, 195mm on the back, 185mm on the front.

'I have of course (genuinelly) got new rubber on order, but I won't get it in time for the MOT.. slightly bad planning on my part! Opinions welcome...
Title: Re: MOT and tyres
Post by: Chopsdad on 14 April 2007, 19:05:25
Larger wheel upgrades pass mot so why not smaller.  15"'s are fitted to some Omega's so should be ok - but no smaller!

If you blew a tyre, Kwik Fit would not insist you replace the other side as well if it was still legal.  They would try, but could only advise so I think tread depth ok too.

PM Familyman  - he's an MOT tester if you still unsure  :y
Title: Re: MOT and tyres
Post by: ChrisMV6 on 14 April 2007, 19:58:09
Tyres sizes can be any mix and match as long they are the same on both axles, BMW's, Jags, Astons, Supercars run different sizes all the time. Wheels can be different sizes front to back aswell - some TVR's came standard this way so you could have 14" steelies on the front and 22" chrome spinners on the back and it wouldn't matter. The main thing is that the tyre tread is good. They may pick up on that you only have 'H' rated tyres when you should really have 'V' or higher on a car like that but hey should'nt fail you for that.
Title: Re: MOT and tyres
Post by: TheBoy on 14 April 2007, 20:11:58
I believe they can fail if the tyre is inappropriate.

Additionally, your insurance is not valid with wrong tyres are on...
Title: Re: MOT and tyres
Post by: familyman on 14 April 2007, 20:23:01
Hiyall. Tyres for MOT have to be the same on the axle.
Different front or back okay, 15" rear 16" front okay so long as axles are the same Also profile and size has to be the same. i.e n/s front has to match o/s front etc....  225/65 r15 and 255/55 r15 would fail.

Speed rating not applicable to class 4 only trucks/vans etc.  so you could have T rated (113 mph I believe) and would pass mot. You may get an advise for V and H rated on the same axle but not a fail. Speed limit in UK only 70 etc.......

The confussion comes when you start playing around with crossplies and radials, but as Omegas are on radials no probs....
Title: Re: MOT and tyres
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 14 April 2007, 20:26:39
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Hiyall. Tyres for MOT have to be the same on the axle.
Different front or back okay, 15" rear 16" front okay so long as axles are the same Also profile and size has to be the same. i.e n/s front has to match o/s front etc....  225/65 r15 and 255/55 r15 would fail.

Speed rating not applicable to class 4 only trucks/vans etc.  so you could have T rated (113 mph I believe) and would pass mot. You may get an advise for V and H rated on the same axle but not a fail. Speed limit in UK only 70 etc.......

The confussion comes when you start playing around with crossplies and radials, but as Omegas are on radials no probs....

So in effect, I should be fine?

It's an Elite, 3.0, with 195/65/R15's 88H on the back, and 185/65/R15's on the front.. all with good tread across the tyres.

MOT is on Thurs... New 225/55/R16 V rated Tyres being fitted the following Sat...

Title: Re: MOT and tyres
Post by: familyman on 14 April 2007, 20:33:28
Should be no probs. mate. Crack on  :y :y :y
Title: Re: MOT and tyres
Post by: Martin_1962 on 14 April 2007, 20:38:57
You will be fine with those
Title: Re: MOT and tyres
Post by: Chopsdad on 14 April 2007, 20:52:45
I told you he'd know  ;)
Title: Re: MOT and tyres
Post by: Bo Bo on 14 April 2007, 21:24:18
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Hiyall. Tyres for MOT have to be the same on the axle.
Different front or back okay, 15" rear 16" front okay so long as axles are the same Also profile and size has to be the same. i.e n/s front has to match o/s front etc....  225/65 r15 and 255/55 r15 would fail.

Speed rating not applicable to class 4 only trucks/vans etc.  so you could have T rated (113 mph I believe) and would pass mot. You may get an advise for V and H rated on the same axle but not a fail. Speed limit in UK only 70 etc.......

The confussion comes when you start playing around with crossplies and radials, but as Omegas are on radials no probs....

So in effect, I should be fine?

It's an Elite, 3.0, with 195/65/R15's 88H on the back, and 185/65/R15's on the front.. all with good tread across the tyres.

MOT is on Thurs... New 225/55/R16 V rated Tyres being fitted the following Sat...

Fine for MOT, check with your insurance though..
Title: Re: MOT and tyres
Post by: Andy B on 15 April 2007, 00:12:13
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MOT is on Thurs... New 225/55/R16 V rated Tyres being fitted the following Sat...

They should be W rated though.
Title: Re: MOT and tyres
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 15 April 2007, 12:31:08
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MOT is on Thurs... New 225/55/R16 V rated Tyres being fitted the following Sat...

They should be W rated though.

How come?

I can change for a "Z" rated tyre for not much more ... I'm getting them from a trade supplier :)
Title: Re: MOT and tyres
Post by: Andy B on 15 April 2007, 12:49:58
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How come?
cos that's what a 3.0 should have on.

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I can change for a "Z" rated tyre for not much more ... I'm getting them from a trade supplier :)
W .... Z same difference.  :y
Title: Re: MOT and tyres
Post by: TheBoy on 15 April 2007, 13:35:28
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MOT is on Thurs... New 225/55/R16 V rated Tyres being fitted the following Sat...

They should be W rated though.

How come?

I can change for a "Z" rated tyre for not much more ... I'm getting them from a trade supplier :)
W is 'up to 167mph' whereas Z (which predated the W rating) is 'over 150mph'
Title: Re: MOT and tyres
Post by: Andy B on 15 April 2007, 14:19:14
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How come?
cos that's what a 3.0 should have on.....

Unless it's a Cadillac Catera (http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/CadillacCatera/)  when apparently H rated 'tires' are good enough.