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Title: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: albitz on 06 May 2010, 22:50:45
Went and vote at 1230, came back home, took the first tablet in a course of penecillin and then started to put my new karcher together.
After about 20 minutes I started to feel peculiar (or even moreso then usual) ::) feeling itchy everywhere, hot, all my skin was red as a strawberry and it seemed difficult to take a deep breath. i called Mrs Albs from upstairs and by the time she got down I was lying on the sofa and didnt have the energy to sit up.
She dialled 999 - the first time in her life -and within 5 minutes a first responder turned up, I could hardly draw any breath in by then so he put an oxygen mask on me.
About 10 minutes later a Paramedic turned up and took over, checked blood pressure -low, Heartbeat - fast. carried on with oxygen and gave me an injection in my bum :o....he had a syringe ready (adrenalin I think)in case he needed it before the ambulance got there.
When they lifted me to put me in the wheelchair to go in the ambulance the effort was too much and I drifted into unconsciousness. was brought round on the way to hospital, and then given loads of oxygen aand injections and drip and stuff when I got to Resuss.
After a couple of hours of drifting in and out of sleepiness I was violently sick and then started to feel better. They put me on a ward for observation, said they would review things tomorrow.
I felt ok apart from being weak as a kitten, so asked politely for a discharge form and signed myslef out.
Need a good nights sleep now, want to put the karcher together tomorrow and then back to work tomorrow night.
Could be of help or a warning to anyone else who experiences similar. If it does call 999 immediatley, it could save your life. Dont want to over dramatise but if I had waited to see if it would wear off,I think I would have died.I had very little energy and had to use every ounce of it too get a lttle air into  my lungs.Feels like drowning on dry land - scary. :y

Feel free to post any amount of tasteless jokes and jibes. :y ::) ;D
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: MadMark73 on 06 May 2010, 22:54:45
Just glad you're ok.
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 06 May 2010, 23:00:15
Glad to see you are ok after your ordeal.

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They put me on a ward for observation, said they would review things tomorrow.
I felt ok apart from being weak as a kitten, so asked politely for a discharge form and signed myslef out.
Need a good nights sleep now, want to put the karcher together tomorrow and then back to work tomorrow night.
Could be of help or a warning to anyone else who experiences similar. If it does call 999 immediatley, it could save your life. Dont want to over dramatise but if I had waited to see if it would wear off,I think I would have died.I had very little energy and had to use every ounce of it too get a lttle air into  my lungs.Feels like drowning on dry land - scary

Just hope your wife gets a goods nights sleep, she will be whittling about all night.

Sod works Albs, health comes first.
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: albitz on 06 May 2010, 23:03:02
Youve met mt wife skruntie :-/ :o ;D
Work will be fine, I just sit in a chair OOFing. :y :D
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: Kevin Wood on 06 May 2010, 23:03:24
Nasty business, and I'm glad you're OK, Albs. :y

I had a similar, although much milder, reaction to my last dose of Aspirin about 12 years ago.

Had had mild asthma for a while with never a serious attack but started to realise it was getting worse than normal. By the time I'd decided that, living alone, I needed to call for help I struggled to make it to the phone so, like you, was glad I didn't delay. :y

Kevin
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: Lazydocker on 06 May 2010, 23:03:30
Albs, I can only say that Mrs A did the right thing. Mrs LD suffers lots of allergies and we have been through this more times than I care to remember, including at least 2 occasions now where I have had to inject her with adrenaline to keep her alive :o :o

It's not nice, it's very scary but it can be managed. She rarely has to stay in hospital now as they know her routine.

I must say though... Discharging yourself wasn't a good idea. I hope they have explained about 2nd peaks to you? Be very aware that it may happen again within the next 24-36 hours as you are now going to be hyper-sensitive.

Glad you're feeling better now :y :y
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 06 May 2010, 23:03:34
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Went and vote at 1230, came back home, took the first tablet in a course of penecillin and then started to put my new karcher together.
After about 20 minutes I started to feel peculiar (or even moreso then usual) ::) feeling itchy everywhere, hot, all my skin was red as a strawberry and it seemed difficult to take a deep breath. i called Mrs Albs from upstairs and by the time she got down I was lying on the sofa and didnt have the energy to sit up.
She dialled 999 - the first time in her life -and within 5 minutes a first responder turned up, I could hardly draw any breath in by then so he put an oxygen mask on me.
About 10 minutes later a Paramedic turned up and took over, checked blood pressure -low, Heartbeat - fast. carried on with oxygen and gave me an injection in my bum :o....he had a syringe ready (adrenalin I think)in case he needed it before the ambulance got there.
When they lifted me to put me in the wheelchair to go in the ambulance the effort was too much and I drifted into unconsciousness. was brought round on the way to hospital, and then given loads of oxygen aand injections and drip and stuff when I got to Resuss.
After a couple of hours of drifting in and out of sleepiness I was violently sick and then started to feel better. They put me on a ward for observation, said they would review things tomorrow.
I felt ok apart from being weak as a kitten, so asked politely for a discharge form and signed myslef out.
Need a good nights sleep now, want to put the karcher together tomorrow and then back to work tomorrow night.
Could be of help or a warning to anyone else who experiences similar. If it does call 999 immediatley, it could save your life. Dont want to over dramatise but if I had waited to see if it would wear off,I think I would have died.I had very little energy and had to use every ounce of it too get a lttle air into  my lungs.Feels like drowning on dry land - scary. :y

Feel free to post any amount of tasteless jokes and jibes. :y ::) ;D

I would never dream of doing such a thing... ::) ::) ;)
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: Gaffers on 06 May 2010, 23:10:55
Glad you're ok, welcome to the penicillin alergy club  :y
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: albitz on 06 May 2010, 23:14:21
Thing is Gaffers I have had lots of penicillin without any problems. Used to have it injected into my leg most days many years ago - hurt like  buggery and turns your poo jet Black :y ;D
My last course was only about 4 months ago, but I have never had this brand before-Amoxicillin :-/
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: HolyCount on 06 May 2010, 23:28:09
Problem with allergies is that they can become serious at any given time without warning -- and often to things you are constantly exposed to --- like your system saying "sod this, I've had enough!"

Anyway -- glad you are OK. Is a really scary thing to have happen.
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: Kevin Wood on 06 May 2010, 23:32:00
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Thing is Gaffers I have had lots of penicillin without any problems.....

Expressed a similar observation to my GP and he made the point that the immune system generates antibodies against substances that it is exposed to. Makes sense, I suppose.

Kevin
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: Turk on 06 May 2010, 23:32:24
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Thing is Gaffers I have had lots of penicillin without any problems. Used to have it injected into my leg most days many years ago - hurt like  buggery and turns your poo jet Black :y ;D
My last course was only about 4 months ago, but I have never had this brand before-Amoxicillin :-/

Amoxicillin is a semi-synthetic penicillin. Also marketed under the names:  Actimoxi, Alphamox, Amocla, AMK, Amoksibos, Amoxiclav Sandoz, Amoxidal, Amoxil, Amoxin, Amoksiklav, Amoxibiotic, Amoxicilina, Apo-Amoxi, Augmentin, Bactox, Betalaktam, Cilamox, Curam, Dedoxil, Dispermox, Duomox, E-Mox, Enhancin, Gimalxina, Geramox, Hiconcil, Isimoxin, Klavox, Lamoxy, Moxatag, Moxilen, Moxypen, Moxyvit, Nobactam, Novamoxin, Ospamox, Panklav, Pamoxicillin, Panamox, Polymox, Samthongcillin, Clamoxyl, Senox, Sinacilin, Trimox, Tolodina, Tormoxin (India), Wymox, Yucla, Zerrsox and Zimox.
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 07 May 2010, 00:05:08
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Thing is Gaffers I have had lots of penicillin without any problems. Used to have it injected into my leg most days many years ago - hurt like  buggery and turns your poo jet Black :y ;D
My last course was only about 4 months ago, but I have never had this brand before-Amoxicillin :-/

Have you tried that then, well you seem to be able to give a comparison, was it anyone from the forum........... ::)
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 07 May 2010, 00:08:52
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Problem with allergies is that they can become serious at any given time without warning -- and often to things you are constantly exposed to --- like your system saying "sod this, I've had enough!"

Anyway -- glad you are OK. Is a really scary thing to have happen.

I know what you mean.  I have never suffered from Hayfever, but about 8 years ago I was diagnosed for it, Doc gave me Anti histemeens (spelling?) for it, then 2 years later it went again.

Well it seems to have come back (Suppose living next to a farm doesnt help) got to see the Doc again.
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: Vamps on 07 May 2010, 00:14:08
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Thing is Gaffers I have had lots of penicillin without any problems. Used to have it injected into my leg most days many years ago - hurt like  buggery and turns your poo jet Black :y ;D
My last course was only about 4 months ago, but I have never had this brand before-Amoxicillin :-/

Have you tried that then, well you seem to be able to give a comparison, was it anyone from the forum........... ::)

Bet he has had DLK, whilst fixing his car.............. :-X
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: Kevin Wood on 07 May 2010, 00:18:10
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Thing is Gaffers I have had lots of penicillin without any problems. Used to have it injected into my leg most days many years ago - hurt like  buggery and turns your poo jet Black :y ;D
My last course was only about 4 months ago, but I have never had this brand before-Amoxicillin :-/

Have you tried that then, well you seem to be able to give a comparison, was it anyone from the forum........... ::)

Bet he has had DLK, whilst fixing his car.............. :-X

Big spoon or little? :o :-X

Kevin
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: Vamps on 07 May 2010, 00:21:14
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Thing is Gaffers I have had lots of penicillin without any problems. Used to have it injected into my leg most days many years ago - hurt like  buggery and turns your poo jet Black :y ;D
My last course was only about 4 months ago, but I have never had this brand before-Amoxicillin :-/

Have you tried that then, well you seem to be able to give a comparison, was it anyone from the forum........... ::)

Bet he has had DLK, whilst fixing his car.............. :-X

Big spoon or little? :o :-X

Kevin

From what I have been told.......... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: Banjax on 07 May 2010, 00:22:06
jeez - just read this Albs - scary stuff, but I'm glad you're OK  :o :y :y
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: Gaffers on 07 May 2010, 07:32:55
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Thing is Gaffers I have had lots of penicillin without any problems.....

Expressed a similar observation to my GP and he made the point that the immune system generates antibodies against substances that it is exposed to. Makes sense, I suppose.

Kevin

I agree, it would appear that my alergy was developed in the womb as my mum was given a course on pen when she was about 7 months preggers with me.  They also say that your second exposure to pen will cause a reaction but mine was like yours, very severe.

You could also be alergic to a part of the medicine which is not penicillin.  Any part of the pill could also have caused it, I have heard of an allergy to Calcium carbonate before which sucks for him  ;D

Unfortunately, testing for pen allergy is off the books.  No doc will take the risk as I have wanted to be tested so many times.  But you can get tested with a scratch test and see what happens  :y
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 07 May 2010, 07:47:54
take care :y
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: Debs. on 07 May 2010, 09:01:46
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......Feel free to post any amount of tasteless jokes and jibes. :y ::) ;D

 :o No jokes; just sincere concern and well-wishes. :y
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: Chris_H on 07 May 2010, 09:03:39
I hope you can get a suitable replacement for the Amoxicillin and recover fully.

Scary but +1 for Mrs Albs :y
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: STMO999 on 07 May 2010, 10:17:59
Only just read this fully Albs. Glad you're OK mate, there's not many of us left. :o
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: albitz on 07 May 2010, 11:16:05
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Only just read this fully Albs. Glad you're OK mate, there's not many of us grumpy,biligerent,objectionable old barstewards left. :o
quite agree Steve. :y ;D ;D
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: Pitchfork on 07 May 2010, 12:58:34
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Thing is Gaffers I have had lots of penicillin without any problems. Used to have it injected into my leg most days many years ago - hurt like  buggery and turns your poo jet Black :y ;D
My last course was only about 4 months ago, but I have never had this brand before-Amoxicillin :-/
So does Guinness ;D
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: PhilRich on 07 May 2010, 18:22:05
Glad you're still with us Albs, scarey stuff but a lesson learned too  :y
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: Martin_1962 on 07 May 2010, 19:00:32
Very nasty glad you are OK
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: Del Boy on 07 May 2010, 19:33:58
Glad you're ok mate  :y
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 07 May 2010, 19:41:11
You are a Bloody Drama Queen.....  ;D

Never met anyone so Accident Prone in my Life ;D ;D

Glad your Ok though you Ode Git :-*

Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: albitz on 07 May 2010, 19:42:20
Thanks for all the kind thoughts/advice/p155 taking, I am touched........................in the head. :D :y
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 07 May 2010, 19:51:15
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Thanks for all the kind thoughts/advice/p155 taking, I am touched........................in the head. :D :y


And in the Bum by the sounds of it  ;D ;D ;D did you feel a little prick mate? ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: albitz on 07 May 2010, 19:52:27
you are a very sick man. ::) ;D
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: Radiomarko on 07 May 2010, 23:02:35
My sympathies Albs, I had a reaction to Amoxicillin last year - totally different to your nasty experience - I got the rash, felt a bit weak and that was it. Until two days later ALL the outer layer of skin on both feet sloughed off like socks.

 [smiley=tongue.gif]


Weird or what?
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: 24_Valve on 08 May 2010, 01:38:32
Urgent GP appointment to request "epipen" and don't handle any penicillin tablets or capsules at all !!! semisynthetic or not! it makes no difference the reaction is to the penicllin component even though you were fine before  :y good to know you're hunky dory  ;) have been a london paramedic for 13 years and stabbed lots of peeps... not in the criminal sense of course..  ::)
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: feeutfo on 08 May 2010, 06:15:24
Should have stayed for the follow up Albs, seen these epipens before, for people severly allergic to stings or nuts etc. Just stab it into your leg or wherever i believe?

Glad your better, sounds nasty. Go see the Doctor. :y
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: Lazydocker on 08 May 2010, 19:46:03
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Should have stayed for the follow up Albs, seen these epipens before, for people severly allergic to stings or nuts etc. Just stab it into your leg or wherever i believe?

Glad your better, sounds nasty. Go see the Doctor. :y

Yep... Auto inject :y But don't stab it into the top of the thigh or you can snap the needle when the adrenaline goes in ::)

I find the side of the thigh the best place with SWMBO... It will also go through clothes OK ;)
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: albitz on 08 May 2010, 19:51:15
Going to make a doctors appt. monday.Havent felt good today.Light headed,dizzy,lethargic, presumably from low blood pressure. :-/
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: Lazydocker on 08 May 2010, 19:56:53
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Going to make a doctors appt. monday.Havent felt good today.Light headed,dizzy,lethargic, presumably from low blood pressure. :-/

You will get "Peaks and Troughs" for about 5-7 days after the initial attack... Did they give you a course of pills to take when you left (starting with a large number and reducing down)?
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: albitz on 08 May 2010, 20:12:32
No Paul wasnt given anything. Plan is to take it easy until Monday, then ring the Doc. :y
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: Lazydocker on 08 May 2010, 20:19:38
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No Paul wasnt given anything. Plan is to take it easy until Monday, then ring the Doc. :y

As I said somewhere up there ^^^^^

Be aware that it may happen again :y
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: albitz on 08 May 2010, 20:28:42
Im doing 12 hour nightshift tonight and tomorrow so I hope it doesnt happen at work, theres no-one lese here. ::) :(
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: STMO999 on 08 May 2010, 22:00:41
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Im doing 12 hour nightshift tonight and tomorrow so I hope it doesnt happen at work, theres no-one lese here. ::) :(


Online,......so still alive? It's hard to tell with some of your posts. ;D
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: feeutfo on 08 May 2010, 22:36:57
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Im doing 12 hour nightshift tonight and tomorrow so I hope it doesnt happen at work, theres no-one lese here. ::) :(
much as i dislike health and safety Albs, that breaks just about every rule in the book. Is there no panic alarm or something? Even in full health accidents happen, much less after an episode like this, but i dont need to tell you all that stuff. :-X
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: Lazydocker on 08 May 2010, 22:42:06
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Im doing 12 hour nightshift tonight and tomorrow so I hope it doesnt happen at work, theres no-one lese here. ::) :(
much as i dislike health and safety Albs, that breaks just about every rule in the book. Is there no panic alarm or something? Even in full health accidents happen, much less after an episode like this, but i dont need to tell you all that stuff. :-X

As long as he has a cordless/mobile phone then it's within the law... Looked into it myself several years back when I had to work in a warehouse alone at night
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: albitz on 08 May 2010, 22:53:40
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Im doing 12 hour nightshift tonight and tomorrow so I hope it doesnt happen at work, theres no-one lese here. ::) :(
much as i dislike health and safety Albs, that breaks just about every rule in the book. Is there no panic alarm or something? Even in full health accidents happen, much less after an episode like this, but i dont need to tell you all that stuff. :-X

As long as he has a cordless/mobile phone then it's within the law... Looked into it myself several years back when I had to work in a warehouse alone at night
Correct. :y.......supplied with both. My call really,could have called in sick, but not my style tbh. If you can walk, you can work imo. ;)
Tbh, not much work involved, if I still had to graft it would be a bit different. :y
Title: Re: Anaphylactic shock is no fun
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 08 May 2010, 23:24:30
I'm shocked to hear about this A - hope you are able to get it sorted out soon :y :y